Aprilia RS 457 Braking issue fixed? | Upgrades tested

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  • čas přidán 7. 06. 2024
  • Aprilia RS 457 is a brilliant motorcycle. But the only shortfall is the braking. We did various experiments to find out what set up suits best for the RS457.
    #apriliars457 #rs457 #brake #upgrades
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Komentáře • 136

  • @RecluseRider
    @RecluseRider Před měsícem +6

    Why does this not have more views! Such an informative video. Looking forward to more.

    • @farhankhan_rr
      @farhankhan_rr  Před měsícem +2

      Thanks so much! ❤
      New channel. Pls share and support.

  • @brjshbrl
    @brjshbrl Před měsícem +15

    Maybe Aprilia can provide an update patch for ABS system and it can be resolved (hopefully)🤞🏻

    • @farhankhan_rr
      @farhankhan_rr  Před měsícem +9

      Hopefully. But it's been 2 months and nothing from Aprilia so far.

    • @brjshbrl
      @brjshbrl Před měsícem +3

      @@farhankhan_rr Lets wait till Aprilia's Engineers do something.. That's all we can do right now.. and thanks for sharing your R&D about brakes. DOT 5.1 seems to be very much useful in this scenario.

  • @shoebkh1
    @shoebkh1 Před měsícem +2

    Great work on the review, loved the fact you have already tried different setups to improve the breaking. This no doubt an awesome bike but the breaking is surely is kind of the only major issue with the bike. Hope Aprilia listens to this feedback and get this resolved, because the break fade under harsh load and breaking can prove to be fatal and is a very big flaw. Keep up the awesome content going. SUBSCRIBED! Cheers mate and happy riding!

  • @Amd107
    @Amd107 Před 25 dny

    Mashallah, that's a very nice and detailed report. Loved the way to you presented and I'm impressed by your knowledge level. Subscribed and followed!

  • @josh_ari
    @josh_ari Před měsícem +5

    Thank you so much for this video. I'm so glad you opened this discussion and I may have some information that could be relevant. 17mm master cylinder is too much brake for a 4-piston radial caliper on a 320mm single rotor. You do not need a Brembo master cylinder. You need a 15mm radial master cylinder of any brand. Nissin and Frando are very good, but there are less expensive options like MXS and RCS. This by itself should fix the problem, but you could take things a step further by also replacing the brake pads and/or front rotor. If you want to remove the abs you should really get an abs delete kit. The problem with removing the fuse is that you also disable the traction control. There are already abs delete kits for the rs660 that are quite expensive, but they're should be cheaper ones available for the 457 eventually. Again thank you for putting together this video for us. I found it very informative. 🕉🪷🪬🪯

    • @farhankhan_rr
      @farhankhan_rr  Před měsícem +3

      Thank you so much. Will try to get my hands on a 15 mm master cylinder. And yes will wait for the abs delete kits.

    • @BenLaden88
      @BenLaden88 Před měsícem

      I used 17mm RCB on my 390 and they work wonders compared to the stock….the stock is 15mm which still bites pretty hard but the 17mm offers a better stopping performance and it doesn’t fade…

    • @josh_ari
      @josh_ari Před měsícem

      @@BenLaden88 You noticed an improvement because you upgraded from an axial master cylinder to a radial master cylinder. 15mm is the correct piston size to move the necessary amount of brake fluid through front brake systems such as on the 390 and 457. 17mm piston will give you too much brake. You went from having not enough brake to having too much. The problem with 17mm master cylinder on that bike would be that it would give you on or off braking, whereas the a 15mm radial master cylinder with would give you proper brake feel, meaning you would have better control of the full range of your braking. This is why if you go to a top shelf accessories catalog like RevZilla, they recommend the brembo 15 rcs for the 457 which has a single dic front brake, and the brembo 19 rcs for 660 which has a dual disc in front. Full stop 🛑 🏍️ 😆

    • @BenLaden88
      @BenLaden88 Před měsícem

      @@josh_ari I don’t think there is such thing as too much….you slab on better master cylinders and learn to control them…I can brake faster and harder with less squeezing and effort as compared to stock…maybe you’re a google guy rather than a actual experience guy I don’t know…but even R15 V3 and V4 uses duke 250 master cylinders for racing here…the fact that you think whatever you say is correct and nothing else is wrong really begs the question of actual experience…

    • @josh_ari
      @josh_ari Před měsícem

      @@BenLaden88 @BenLaden88 I went to school for motorcycle mechanics here in America. There is an actual calculation depending on the number of pistons in your calipers. I'm trying to share factual information with you my friend, and you are getting offended. It is you that wants to argue. I just wanted to dispel misinformation. There is a right way and a wrong way to do things. If you desire to do things the wrong way, far be it from me to try and stop you, but don't go around trying to get everyone else to do things the wrong way too. Get out of here with all that trash. I'm done arguing with you, Mr. Osama Bin Laden.

  • @user-ni8kr9qs3z
    @user-ni8kr9qs3z Před měsícem

    For some who os new here your quality is definitely top and amazing 🤩

  • @khan.on.wheels
    @khan.on.wheels Před měsícem +1

    Information crisp enough ❤

  • @silvery2850
    @silvery2850 Před měsícem +1

    Thats a good way to promote your store. Keep making new bike videos.

  • @Robroy11976
    @Robroy11976 Před 8 dny

    Can i ask what's the name of the brembo brake pad and part number that was used? Is it a pair for front and back?

  • @naserkabir764
    @naserkabir764 Před 22 dny

    Brembo rcs 15 when installed does resolves the braking issue completely.

  • @sweetfriendvic
    @sweetfriendvic Před měsícem

    May I ask if the brake system in front of the RS457 uses a 100mm or 108mm spacing? Thank you very much for the information.

  • @VarunGoud07
    @VarunGoud07 Před měsícem

    Great video. Did you test all the different combinations under hard braking? Also next time have more light or shoot outside maybe

  • @Dhanu32
    @Dhanu32 Před 20 dny

    U can try r15 v3 bs4 master cylinder it has a good bite and affordable right ?!

  • @ontheroad8149
    @ontheroad8149 Před měsícem

    I own a duke 390 which I changed the front to organic brake pads- and yes, the ABS triggers a lot. Fading is another level, it was like my Himalayan on the highways. I’d say ceramic pads and brake fluid change is what you’re looking for.
    Do not do any brake deletes etc as you will be losing warranty. Apparently one guy changed his levers and master cylinder which seemed to have improvement but a bad idea.

    • @farhankhan_rr
      @farhankhan_rr  Před měsícem

      Strange thing is the 457 already has sintered brake pads in front. Yet it's happening.

  • @RecluseRider
    @RecluseRider Před měsícem

    Hi, can you also do a simple mod for heel guard? I feel it is also much needed.

  • @zyncc
    @zyncc Před měsícem

    Can you give the link to buy these RCB master cylinder

  • @dragoonxgamer
    @dragoonxgamer Před měsícem

    What's the difference between ceramic and sintered break pad?

  • @DomiEE
    @DomiEE Před 29 dny

    i am thinking of getting a rs457 but looking at these issues im considering waiting for the later lot of bikes manufactured cause it seems its a issue with the abs and aprilia's hardware

  • @skyhighgaming7957
    @skyhighgaming7957 Před 20 dny

    So can we just change the whole braking system

  • @businessdecoder121
    @businessdecoder121 Před měsícem

    Bro just a question whether have you faced any reliability issues in your RSV4 bcz its said from 2023 model they have fixed up things...

  • @luigihatesyou4217
    @luigihatesyou4217 Před 19 dny

    I have had the RC 390 since 2015, and this is my second bike, and I absolutely hate the brakes

  • @harikrishnan4216
    @harikrishnan4216 Před 21 dnem

    Very good video.

  • @Smile-el5yy
    @Smile-el5yy Před měsícem

    Really informative

    • @farhankhan_rr
      @farhankhan_rr  Před měsícem

      Glad you think so! Its a new channel. Please share and support.

  • @PRHLDSHETTY
    @PRHLDSHETTY Před měsícem

    Farhan ...kindly do the test video ..with RCB master cylinder

  • @TheINDIAN
    @TheINDIAN Před měsícem +1

    You can buy the brembo race pads .or
    Just buy the ebc EPFA 606 hh (4800Rs)pads thats all you need, been using EPFA for last 11 years for both my cbr and rc390 and did work well on the track. Clean the discs do the bedding procedure and enjoy.
    Dot 5.1 is not going to increase performance (30⁰ increased temperature from dot 4) by a big margin because if the oil is overheating you have other significant fundamental problems. As you will warp the disc or burn the disc.

    • @farhankhan_rr
      @farhankhan_rr  Před měsícem

      Can try the EBC for some more time. But the brakes on RC390 are much better buddy. I had the first gen bs3. Ridden it on streets, track, touring.

    • @TheINDIAN
      @TheINDIAN Před měsícem

      @@farhankhan_rr I still have the gen 1 even now it's my brother's done over 150,000 km . First upgrade was EPFAs front and HH rear.

    • @TheINDIAN
      @TheINDIAN Před měsícem

      @@farhankhan_rr moto Usher has it

  • @RohithOnkaramurthy
    @RohithOnkaramurthy Před měsícem

    Perfect content

    • @farhankhan_rr
      @farhankhan_rr  Před měsícem

      Thanks so much.❤ Its a new channel. Please share and support!

  • @Sam_Nightcore
    @Sam_Nightcore Před měsícem +1

    So the thing is the bike is not still in the European countries yet, but they are using different break pads here, and yet its because there is big price difference like 1.7L rs difference, between Indian price to European price.

  • @adilnadaf9182
    @adilnadaf9182 Před měsícem

    Is there no way to tune the abs setting ??
    And can you replace the aprilia abs module with the RC390 module ?

    • @farhankhan_rr
      @farhankhan_rr  Před měsícem +1

      That's something only Aprilia can do. Nothing from their side yet.

  • @PAPASAARmoto
    @PAPASAARmoto Před měsícem

    I was there today on my ninja 1000 sx

  • @jigyashgr
    @jigyashgr Před 21 dnem

    waiting for exhaust change

  • @sriharsha9640
    @sriharsha9640 Před měsícem

    Thanks bro

  • @drvivekmallan
    @drvivekmallan Před měsícem

    Very well explained bhai, I've ordered dot 5.1 bf as well. Where'd you get the t shirt from tho?

    • @farhankhan_rr
      @farhankhan_rr  Před měsícem

      Thanks Bhai. ❤ I got it from moto gp at BIC last year.

  • @navonilsaha7641
    @navonilsaha7641 Před měsícem

    Same abs problem in my sp 160

  • @tanishqas5104
    @tanishqas5104 Před měsícem +1

    Pls update after riding the solved bike of arun as mentioned

  • @rajeshranganath.k6927
    @rajeshranganath.k6927 Před měsícem

    Bro you could've tried the EPFA (EPFA606HH) brake pads from EBC. They're too good with significant difference on RC390's(inspite rc have good stock stopping power).

    • @farhankhan_rr
      @farhankhan_rr  Před měsícem

      Will try it. Looks like it's not easily available and have to get it on request.

  • @mformechanical4719
    @mformechanical4719 Před měsícem

    @Farhan bhai: Do we have this braking issue in RSV4 as well?

    • @farhankhan_rr
      @farhankhan_rr  Před měsícem +1

      Not at all. RSV4 1100 factory has top of the line brakes. Brembo stylemma calipers.

  • @a_16_devendra21
    @a_16_devendra21 Před měsícem

    I think sc project will sound really nice on the RS 457.
    And what are the alternatives for the same?

    • @farhankhan_rr
      @farhankhan_rr  Před měsícem

      I'm planning on the SC. Alternative Akrapovic, mivv, Leo Vince

    • @a_16_devendra21
      @a_16_devendra21 Před měsícem

      Any idea regarding the launch of SC
      Expected date or something

  • @CRAZYGAMING-eg2kn
    @CRAZYGAMING-eg2kn Před měsícem

    Ceramic brakes are working bro😁

  • @Ganirage
    @Ganirage Před měsícem

    First batch must improve in the upcoming batches

  • @sphhegde4133
    @sphhegde4133 Před měsícem

    The thing is rotor is getting heated
    As well the pads will also heat then the disk oil .. and as a cheap fix why dnt you try a 3d printed rotor cooler ..
    i mean twin cylinder ..easily catches 170 in track rotor is thin ..
    may be it needs that one last thing ..
    they say its track machine ..

    • @farhankhan_rr
      @farhankhan_rr  Před měsícem

      Had no idea about this. Let me do some research on this. Thanks😊

  • @Blrtraffic360
    @Blrtraffic360 Před měsícem

    Why is no one talking about the tyres?
    I had the problem of ABS kicking in on my duke 390 when I changed my tyres from Metzelers to Road 5.
    Probably the tyres have a hard compound in the centre and is not gripping much.

    • @farhankhan_rr
      @farhankhan_rr  Před měsícem +1

      The tires are surprisingly good actually!

    • @Blrtraffic360
      @Blrtraffic360 Před měsícem

      @@farhankhan_rr from where did you get the RCB master cylinder bro

    • @sahilthakur1461
      @sahilthakur1461 Před měsícem

      Tyres are W rated and pretty soft... RC390 metzelers are not W rated.. So tyres is not an issue

    • @kaustavdas2105
      @kaustavdas2105 Před měsícem

      ​@@Blrtraffic360 check lrl motors website

  • @priyanshugupta4530
    @priyanshugupta4530 Před měsícem

    Waiting for the KTM calipers

  • @mysteriouszed
    @mysteriouszed Před 20 dny

    Waiting for furlxpro vidoeoooo

  • @jishanalicreations5169
    @jishanalicreations5169 Před měsícem

    Can uh please tell me me the price of that left 10r if in sell❤️

  • @palashvrma
    @palashvrma Před měsícem

    After paying so much still we need to pay more @Farhan bro to make breaking good. Sad, still I've to face break fade.

    • @farhankhan_rr
      @farhankhan_rr  Před měsícem

      Unfortunately yes. Hope Aprilia does something. Or else we still have to do it to be safer.

  • @keyaanadeeb4089
    @keyaanadeeb4089 Před měsícem +1

    Hey Farhan, I'm dead set on the RS457 but many videos about the brakes being shady is throwing me off, the way some bikers are narrating it is kinda scary, so do I go ahead or is this brake problem solvable

    • @farhankhan_rr
      @farhankhan_rr  Před měsícem

      You can go ahead. Its solvable. I'm happy with the current set up that I have upgraded to.

    • @onepunchman6165
      @onepunchman6165 Před měsícem

      I have been driving it since day 1.
      You will not get brake Gade unless you are on track. Go ahead and buy the bike. She's amazing

    • @rahulkhanna2924
      @rahulkhanna2924 Před měsícem

      Go and have a test ride bro you will get to experience by your own

  • @sc675
    @sc675 Před měsícem

    Sir any plans of installing tail tidy?

    • @farhankhan_rr
      @farhankhan_rr  Před měsícem

      Maybe after monsoons. Coz then the bike's tail and my back will no longer be tidy😅

  • @Kiranrj91
    @Kiranrj91 Před měsícem

    Nice video. Can I have the ebc brake pad?

  • @shadow_realm47
    @shadow_realm47 Před měsícem

    This the bike that was on @Strell right?!

  • @aadisingh8443
    @aadisingh8443 Před měsícem

    Are you , or know someone who is working on flashing the ecu?

    • @farhankhan_rr
      @farhankhan_rr  Před měsícem +1

      Yup I know and soon my bike wil have an exhaust and a tune.

    • @aadisingh8443
      @aadisingh8443 Před měsícem

      @@farhankhan_rr waiting for the notification of that vedio eagerly

  • @slowburngamer7738
    @slowburngamer7738 Před měsícem

    Don't you think it's just a software update for the ABS

    • @farhankhan_rr
      @farhankhan_rr  Před měsícem

      That's something Aprilia should do. Had suggested them this. But nothing from their end yet in this regard.

  • @balajimanivannan8440
    @balajimanivannan8440 Před měsícem

    How much cost RCB master cylinder & brake pad bro ?

  • @parthasarathy5222
    @parthasarathy5222 Před měsícem

    Has the brake fade gone?

  • @channayya.shiremath3913
    @channayya.shiremath3913 Před měsícem +1

    We are waiting for Full system 🔥🔥🔥

  • @mynature3270
    @mynature3270 Před měsícem

    Make video on those bike Wich are for sale with prices

  • @dailywiithshankar
    @dailywiithshankar Před měsícem

    some me has changed the master cylinder and the liver mechanism and it performed op in that same bike.I think it was rcs15.

    • @farhankhan_rr
      @farhankhan_rr  Před měsícem

      Yup it's in my friend Circle. Will try the bike for a longer ride and see.

  • @Zox-e5k
    @Zox-e5k Před měsícem

    Exhaust change bro
    You can experiment so we expect from you
    As you are richer enough.
    A person who is new we can't expect from them ?

  • @ut46
    @ut46 Před měsícem

    Farhan Bhai wher can I buy tat Aprilia shirt it's nice

    • @farhankhan_rr
      @farhankhan_rr  Před měsícem

      I bought this in moto gp at BIC last year

    • @ut46
      @ut46 Před měsícem

      @@farhankhan_rr thanks Bhai ❤️

  • @thenmg
    @thenmg Před měsícem

    Missing a lot.....

  • @vu3maz
    @vu3maz Před měsícem

    Farhan I'd suggest Aprilia hire you to fix this brake before it's too late. Premium bike like this having this issue is not going to help company's reputation.

    • @farhankhan_rr
      @farhankhan_rr  Před měsícem

      Been giving them all the feedback. They're already aware of all my experiments.

  • @stardust__165
    @stardust__165 Před měsícem

    Bhai i was gonna book rs457 but after brake review
    ,Should I wait for the 2025 model?

    • @farhankhan_rr
      @farhankhan_rr  Před měsícem

      These upgrades should fix the issue bro. The bike is very good. And we can only hope that they improve it. But can't be sure that they'll improve it.

  • @arjun_iyengar
    @arjun_iyengar Před měsícem

    Apparently the brake setup of RS457 is the same as the RC390, so u probably can try the stock sintered pads of the RC390 itself.

  • @PratikGhone
    @PratikGhone Před měsícem +1

    Stereo 🚫 Right earbud ☑

    • @farhankhan_rr
      @farhankhan_rr  Před měsícem

      I was just listening it through my earpods watching on phone and sounds alright.
      Are you watching on laptop? Because somebody else watching on laptop reported the same.

    • @Bala.the.Baldie
      @Bala.the.Baldie Před měsícem

      On mobile same issue

  • @nandakumar5543
    @nandakumar5543 Před měsícem

    Brakes and abs are important if it fads its production failure, so only must not take in 1st batch u have yo wait for 1yr or 2nd yr

    • @farhankhan_rr
      @farhankhan_rr  Před měsícem

      Yup I was aware and still wanted the bike. 😊

    • @nandakumar5543
      @nandakumar5543 Před měsícem

      @@farhankhan_rr even if power is dull not an issue braking is important i did test ride in falconmobikes and found this breaking issue

  • @thenmg
    @thenmg Před měsícem

    Let's go..✌🏼❤️🫶🏻

  • @KILLERPANDAmd
    @KILLERPANDAmd Před měsícem

    sir do you have any plan for aftermarket exhaust ??