He literally went insane and should have reset his CPU. He should have talked to humans instead of reacting in violence against all humans without provocation. The cult would have been proven wrong and eventually wiped out since the majority of humanity would see cat lon protecting them and showing them mercy.
@@Rasengangstarr agreed, perhaps someone could add when we bring Cat Lon alive into Spring and jail him, Tinfist would approach to interact with Cat Lon, perhaps Tinfist could have said a good bye then end Cat Lon there
No there shouldn't be any interaction with between the two. Tinfists friend Cat-lon had been dead for a thousand years or more. Tinfist has nothing to say to the thing that was Cat-lon. Tinfist's silence speaks more than his words would. Tinfist buried his friend centuries ago figuratively (or literally, Tinfist could have fought him and thats what pushed Cat-lon further along that path of seeing betrayal everywhere, Tinfist sided with the humans). By Tinfist talking to Cat-lon, Tinfist is admitting that he let his friend suffer for so long alone and afraid. That he abandoned his friend when that friend needed the most help. The lack of interaction between the two might be an oversight but in terms of reality there is nothing more human than ignoring your mistakes even when they are standing in front of you.
I hope Kenshi 2 is the first empire then a 3rd could be the 2nd empire. I really would prefer to see the start of it all instead of going from end to middle to probably never the beginning. Since we already know basically all the lore of the 2nd empire.
I like to think that Stobe brought down the Eye. Looking at Venge, I think the purpose was to scour the earth. Leave nothing left alive, as skeletons of course need nothing but the metal to prosper. Perhaps he fell trying to take out the "Other One", as some Skeletons call it. Either way, with the fall of the Eye, it seems it doesn't venture out of Venge. Perhaps that's due to an error, as consequence of losing one. Or perhaps it was an order given, seeing Stobe's sacrifice, for the device to halt. Perhaps it wasn't built with such an 'off' function, and so the only way to get it to cease its work was to order it to perpetually circle, scorching Venge into unlivable nothingness. Whatever brought down the Eye must've been mighty. And likewise, whatever had bested Stobe. I think these two fit together well.
Skeletons are almost like the doctor from doctor who. Redundancies build up causing feedback loops that turn into mental diseases. Basically human minds inside robot bodies, all the senses but no input when using them. So they have to reset, losing all their skills (starting the game as a skeleton that has been alive for thousands of years but with level 1 in everything?) and basically becoming a new person with the same memories. Now look at Cat-lon the "greatest" warrior of the world, ruling an empire, committing to strobes goal of protecting humanity. In the end he couldn't reset, the emperor starting over with no charisma or strength, no he couldnt or the empire would fall and his people would suffer. In the end the psychosis won as it often does, many a hero king in real life succumbed to its grip. I suffered sever brain damage that changed almost everything about my personality, so I feel for the skeletons. Looking back at a past that isn't yours anymore is one of the saddest things I've ever experienced.
Just recently got into Kenshi and I have been binge listening to lore videos at work for the past week, your vidoes have been some of the highest tier especially your region lores, I wish there were more but I’m sure it’s a monumental task to compile a full video for more regions. We’re eagerly awaiting your return if you ever feel like diving back into content making for Kenshi or anything else!
I knew Kenshi lore before playing, but after joining the Anti-Slavers and finding out that Cat-Lon and Tinfist are not only the same generation of bots, but old friends driven apart genuinely hurt me. I mean, Tinfist is still fighting the good fight and suffering in the far reaches of the inhabitable middle territories, and Cat-Lon is basically a decaying remnant of his own mind, unable to see that his thralls have more than recreated slavery. They once fought together for freedom, and Tinfist is forced to watch as one of his best friends chose to subjugate their own people rather than let the rebellion of robots pursue their own fate beyond the restrictions of the old empires. Tinfist probably watched as his fellow bots were rewritten in front of him, programmed to kill at Cat-Lon's will, and realized that his companion is gone and a resentful madman has taken control of any chance of their people ever being free of someone's control.
Kenshi players will see Catlon lament the fact that he couldn't build a utopia despite everything and yet still they'll make paragraphs on reddit about how akshually they could do it
In the world of Kenshi, I still view Cat-Lon as a protector. I mean, imagine how fucking hard it would be if every start had you fighting thrall skeletons. Regardless of the past, he's STILL basically saving the whole continent from ruin by maintaining his loose control on the thralls. Like, name a group who could defeat them that doesn't consist of characters like Tinfist, Lord Phoenix, the Hive Queens, and Beep, it's basically impossible without grinding for so long that your PC is probably just as insane as Cat-Lon.
If you (as a skeleton) talk to Elder of the Skeleton Bandits, he actually mocks Stobe, twisting the memory of Stobe's sacrifice into a reason to incite hatred against humanity.
the second empire rotted away. so why arent there more ruins and working tech from that time? And what interests me more is what cause the famine? how come with all their tech they couldnt stop it? Also, why didnt cat-lon thrall the general or the agriculture dude?
Cat long when he was emperor of the 2. Empire send a bomb to destroy the humans how rebelde against him so he can build his utopia but behemoth sacreficed himself by letting the bomb detonate on him.
@@boneman-calciumenjoyer8290 Because Tinfist sides with the non-Okran humans during Cat-Lons crackdown. It continues to modern times in Kenshi, Tinfist is with the rebels(Anti-Slavers and Rebel Farmets) trying to throw off the United Cities yoke.
I don't think tin fist did really loose his mind. He's still fighting the same fight that he was fighting 1000 years ago, just trying to make life on Kenshi better. It's just addresses the fact that the world has changed and the problems he has to fight have too. He just lets being a celebrity/superhero get to his head a little bit.
Good video, up till you compared Strobe to Jesus 🙄👎 don't even know what he did or didn't do and you go and compare him to our Lord and Savior. That, on top of called them beyamoths and annoying voice, is good enough for me to block you, please kindly do the same, thanks.
BEYAMOTHS
Aye where the lore at?
beh-hee-moths
Danke für die gute Erläuterung der Kenshi Hintergründe.
Bahamut?
Please make a video about the swamp
I've always loved Cat-lon due to his tragic nature of his fall.
I can relate to trying to fix everything but every action just making it worse
Oof dude you good
He literally went insane and should have reset his CPU. He should have talked to humans instead of reacting in violence against all humans without provocation. The cult would have been proven wrong and eventually wiped out since the majority of humanity would see cat lon protecting them and showing them mercy.
The tragic, robotic Ozymandias of the Ashlands...
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare, the lone and level sands stretch far away.
Beep, youre the smartest guy i ever met, but youre too stupid to see he made up his mind in sonorous dark
I put in the effort to incapacitate Cat-Lon and jail him in Spring. Was disappointed that there was no special interaction with Tinfist
yeah, that'd be awesome, maybe someone could mod one in
@@Rasengangstarr agreed, perhaps someone could add when we bring Cat Lon alive into Spring and jail him, Tinfist would approach to interact with Cat Lon, perhaps Tinfist could have said a good bye then end Cat Lon there
Genesis might be tackling it.
No there shouldn't be any interaction with between the two. Tinfists friend Cat-lon had been dead for a thousand years or more. Tinfist has nothing to say to the thing that was Cat-lon. Tinfist's silence speaks more than his words would. Tinfist buried his friend centuries ago figuratively (or literally, Tinfist could have fought him and thats what pushed Cat-lon further along that path of seeing betrayal everywhere, Tinfist sided with the humans). By Tinfist talking to Cat-lon, Tinfist is admitting that he let his friend suffer for so long alone and afraid. That he abandoned his friend when that friend needed the most help. The lack of interaction between the two might be an oversight but in terms of reality there is nothing more human than ignoring your mistakes even when they are standing in front of you.
“Every action I take, no matter how violent or how cruel, is for the greater good of my people. And now, I have no people."
I hope Kenshi 2 becomes a massive success so we might get 3 that exlpores the future.
Aint no way im gna live that long
That will be for our grandchildren to explore. Let's just get Kenshi 2 first lol.
The future is that the planet freaking dies and might be turning into barren world so... Yeah...
With fans like us we can make it happen bro!!
I hope Kenshi 2 is the first empire then a 3rd could be the 2nd empire. I really would prefer to see the start of it all instead of going from end to middle to probably never the beginning. Since we already know basically all the lore of the 2nd empire.
I played kenshi for years and always wanted lore videos like this thank you for your service to this new community my guy
There's also a playlist by PhoenixDash on YT
I like to think that Stobe brought down the Eye.
Looking at Venge, I think the purpose was to scour the earth. Leave nothing left alive, as skeletons of course need nothing but the metal to prosper.
Perhaps he fell trying to take out the "Other One", as some Skeletons call it. Either way, with the fall of the Eye, it seems it doesn't venture out of Venge. Perhaps that's due to an error, as consequence of losing one. Or perhaps it was an order given, seeing Stobe's sacrifice, for the device to halt. Perhaps it wasn't built with such an 'off' function, and so the only way to get it to cease its work was to order it to perpetually circle, scorching Venge into unlivable nothingness.
Whatever brought down the Eye must've been mighty. And likewise, whatever had bested Stobe. I think these two fit together well.
Skeletons are almost like the doctor from doctor who. Redundancies build up causing feedback loops that turn into mental diseases. Basically human minds inside robot bodies, all the senses but no input when using them. So they have to reset, losing all their skills (starting the game as a skeleton that has been alive for thousands of years but with level 1 in everything?) and basically becoming a new person with the same memories. Now look at Cat-lon the "greatest" warrior of the world, ruling an empire, committing to strobes goal of protecting humanity. In the end he couldn't reset, the emperor starting over with no charisma or strength, no he couldnt or the empire would fall and his people would suffer. In the end the psychosis won as it often does, many a hero king in real life succumbed to its grip. I suffered sever brain damage that changed almost everything about my personality, so I feel for the skeletons. Looking back at a past that isn't yours anymore is one of the saddest things I've ever experienced.
It’s narcissistic on his part. He believed only he could do it and not leave it to a successor, so he destroyed his own dreams with his hubris
Catlon straight up reset himself, deleting his mind and skills in the process
I hope we get to see a non mad catlon in kenshi 2 working with tinfist could you imagine that boss fight...
Mellow cat-lon
The skeletons are one of my favorite fictional races in media, the absolute peak of the '60s sci Fi sad robot
Cat-Lon and Tinfist are my favourite, such amazing skeletons written very well open to interpretation.
Or perhaps I'm just biased towards skeletons.
I always liked the theory that tinfist only started the anti slavers to destroy the main human factions as revenge
Just recently got into Kenshi and I have been binge listening to lore videos at work for the past week, your vidoes have been some of the highest tier especially your region lores, I wish there were more but I’m sure it’s a monumental task to compile a full video for more regions. We’re eagerly awaiting your return if you ever feel like diving back into content making for Kenshi or anything else!
Thank you so much. I'd like to get back into making content at some point, but rest assured I'm still playing Kenshi :P
I knew Kenshi lore before playing, but after joining the Anti-Slavers and finding out that Cat-Lon and Tinfist are not only the same generation of bots, but old friends driven apart genuinely hurt me. I mean, Tinfist is still fighting the good fight and suffering in the far reaches of the inhabitable middle territories, and Cat-Lon is basically a decaying remnant of his own mind, unable to see that his thralls have more than recreated slavery. They once fought together for freedom, and Tinfist is forced to watch as one of his best friends chose to subjugate their own people rather than let the rebellion of robots pursue their own fate beyond the restrictions of the old empires. Tinfist probably watched as his fellow bots were rewritten in front of him, programmed to kill at Cat-Lon's will, and realized that his companion is gone and a resentful madman has taken control of any chance of their people ever being free of someone's control.
"I was not the monster"
*𝐖𝐑𝐘𝐘𝐘𝐘𝐘𝐘𝐘𝐘*
Turns out Catlon is not actually a cat
Bro this is a great video, keep it up.
Kenshi players will see Catlon lament the fact that he couldn't build a utopia despite everything and yet still they'll make paragraphs on reddit about how akshually they could do it
ugh I wish there was more kenshi lore
Doing a solo run rn. Taking out all of his generals 1 by 1 rn. 2 down..2 to go!
In the world of Kenshi, I still view Cat-Lon as a protector. I mean, imagine how fucking hard it would be if every start had you fighting thrall skeletons. Regardless of the past, he's STILL basically saving the whole continent from ruin by maintaining his loose control on the thralls. Like, name a group who could defeat them that doesn't consist of characters like Tinfist, Lord Phoenix, the Hive Queens, and Beep, it's basically impossible without grinding for so long that your PC is probably just as insane as Cat-Lon.
What a great video, keep it up!
great video like always
Please upload moreee
2:55 Stobe has a little show going on at his feet
"Return of The King"
But do I speak of Cat-lon or Raseng boi?
Who is rang boi? :o
@@Rasengangstarr typo lol I meant raseng boi, being you
Awesome video mate! :)
But why do Skeletons praise Stobe if he sided with the humans?
Idk if he "sided" with anyone
@@Rasengangstarr You are right, not sure why I assumed as much
Probably because the skeletons regretted what they had done during the fall of the first empire
If you (as a skeleton) talk to Elder of the Skeleton Bandits, he actually mocks Stobe, twisting the memory of Stobe's sacrifice into a reason to incite hatred against humanity.
Nice video underrated chanel keep doing lores 😉👍
I wonder if the First Empire distrubed the giant beasts we see skeletal remains of in Kenshi, and the behemoths were made to fight them.
The "bayamoths" are horrifying
Too many years, too many memories, too in need of a hard reset.
How did the humans obliterate the grid of the second empire? There's a massive crater like some super weapon was used there.
probably an orbital satellite.
These vids are geeat please keep making them
Hell yeah a midnight treat !
the second empire rotted away. so why arent there more ruins and working tech from that time?
And what interests me more is what cause the famine? how come with all their tech they couldnt stop it? Also, why didnt cat-lon thrall the general or the agriculture dude?
Hoping you're doing well
Cat long when he was emperor of the 2. Empire send a bomb to destroy the humans how rebelde against him so he can build his utopia but behemoth sacreficed himself by letting the bomb detonate on him.
BeOmOth
Does anyone know where i can find the picture around 4:40?
i.pinimg.com/originals/93/6c/d1/936cd1048ac7ffda9bcd9247531f0808.png There ya go
Bee-he-myth
Where are the sources of these artwork?
Cat-Lon, in my mind it was always Cat-Lion, I don't know why
8:20 you didn't say the last line
I wanted to end on him insulting humanity hahhaa
The WREEEEEEEE one?
yes sirrr@@Ienteredmynamecorrectly-lt3nu
Nice vid
Can you make a video about Sadneil
Watching this rn where I have him locked up in my shack in the hub
I stopped paying attention for 10 seconds and saw stobe next to Jesus Christ on my screen
kinda reminds me of gwyn from dark souls
wasnt tinfist involved with catlon?????
Indeed he was.
Not anymore tho, not sure why.
Seems that both have lost their minds due to memory issues.
@@boneman-calciumenjoyer8290 Because Tinfist sides with the non-Okran humans during Cat-Lons crackdown. It continues to modern times in Kenshi, Tinfist is with the rebels(Anti-Slavers and Rebel Farmets) trying to throw off the United Cities yoke.
I don't think tin fist did really loose his mind. He's still fighting the same fight that he was fighting 1000 years ago, just trying to make life on Kenshi better. It's just addresses the fact that the world has changed and the problems he has to fight have too.
He just lets being a celebrity/superhero get to his head a little bit.
Cat-Lon is a P4??
P4 MKII, more specifically, if I recall correctly.
No wonder he went mad.
Stobe like Jesus, except part of actual history in Kenshi.
O.o
Good video, up till you compared Strobe to Jesus 🙄👎 don't even know what he did or didn't do and you go and compare him to our Lord and Savior. That, on top of called them beyamoths and annoying voice, is good enough for me to block you, please kindly do the same, thanks.
Damn dude, chill the fuck out, will ya
Actual snowflake lmao
Cat-Lon 2024! xD
*Video algorithm revive comment*