JVC NZ7 Projector Review vs Sony XW7000es 4K Projector
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- We check out the JVC NZ7 home theater projector and see how it stacks up against the Sony XW7000es 4k projector. Does twice the price get you twice the performance?
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This channel is hands down one of the best out there. Very honest. Thanks
It's nice to look at things I'll never be able to afford.
Kinda depressing for me actually.☹️
Me too but I'm still going to get that JVC!
Not with that crappy negative mentality.
😂😂😂
Just save and give it 3 years 👌
The 5000es costs 6000$ and delivers a great picture for a much reduced cost.
Thank you for the great review! Just ordered the Sony XW7000es - really excited to experience it.
Great video. I've just returned a brand new NZ7 as I had some lens focus issues. It just wasn't sharp across the screen compared to my N5. Found a Sony XW7000 refurb with warranty and just a few hundred hours of use for £2000 less than the new NZ7 so I'm going to give that a go. Really looking forward to trying it out.
I have started to appriciate bright HDR over detail - like the Harry Potter duel with Voldemort. Most of the times when the movie is playing everything is moving so much that the details are hard to notice anyway.
The Sony is way out of my price range. I've always wanted to get a JVC projector, so the NZ7 is my next upgrade.
Great video, but I always have the same takeaway with these: we have lost exact calibration with the arrival of 4K BD and HDR. Too much bullshit needed in general that alter the image and distances us from the reference. This gets worse with multiple competing HDR formats, which have metadata BS worsening calibration. The pinnacle of image accuracy was 1080p BD and reference plasma TVs. No moving target EOTFs, no BS HDR, true RGB emissive pixels without stupid white pixels. The inclusion of the latter destroys mathematical possibility of an accurate picture. In addition to this we have the marketing BS of brightness with HDR that’s totally unnecessary but cheap to do. People don’t always know that the image quality benefit is expanded color volume. But that could have been implemented properly, without the stupidity of what we have as HDR today. One pays top dollar for display devices and have to fidget around with settings that depend on the material displayed. This is wrong. I for one despise anything that alters the foundation and most important aspect of a reference image; black level and above black shadow detail. Currently HDR is like an audio format that wants to portray explosions like reality. No, thank you, I don’t want to experience a shell shock…
On my N5 the Theatre Optimiser I set it on LOW which is probably the equivalent to -2 on the NZ7. If left in this setting you calibrate the brightness and contrast which I did and I genuinely haven’t had to tweak between movies since.
Would have been interesting to see how maybe the NZ9 compared as it’s priced similarly and has the better lens and comparable light output.
A personal thing but I think the added black levels on the JVC make the images better but I can understand someone else preferring a slightly crisper image instead.
I would like to see a comparison between the JVC NZ9 and the Sony 7000.
Already been done at the screening room a couple weeks ago. Kris deering did all the calibrations. The jvc pretty much beat up on the Sonys and epson easily. HDR dark scenes were night and day. I was hoping the epson would have done better but oh well
Thanks Shane, would love to see the Sony with a lumagen doing the HDR lifting. I previously had a Sony 760 moving to a jvc nx9, both paired with the lumagen 5348, the JVC blacks were the decision maker for me.
I've got a MadVR video coming up.
Would love to see how they perform with madvr tonemapping.
Hey Shane, how are the dark scenes and shadow detail in the Sony XW 7000? Even if they’re not as good as the JVCs in the dark scenes, are they good enough to have good picture quality? I’m planning on getting a Sony XW 6000 and it should be the same as the XW 7000. I just want to know if I’m making a good choice.
So much work to get a projector optimized - 120” OLED TVs can’t arrive fast enough!
I'd love to see the Sony compared to the NZ8... 🤔
The NZ7 is still a great projector but the NZ8 has even better contrast, better optics, is brighter and has the full 4 way eShiftX. Plus the cinema filter too. I think it's the sweet spot for the NZ lineup.
The NZ8 should give the 7000ES a serious run for its money (or beat it)
Thanks for this comparison 👍🏼
Yeah the NZ8 or NZ9 would have been more realistic. The NZ7 should have been compared to the 6000 or 5000 but he couldn’t get the NZ9 for a more fair comparison.
At least this is not a fake comparison like that AV dealer tried to do when the new Sonys were announced.
@@craigwhitcher9629 Man right! You would think Sony slid them some $ under the table. Lol
I have owned both brands. I'll take the JVC any day of the week. Black levels and tone mapping are way better then Sony.
I need a projector with the brightness and cinematic image of the Sony 7000 and the HDR dynamic tone mapping, contrast and black levels of the JVC NZ7
Don't we all..... and at the price of the Epson LS12000 ;-)
@@larsv6144 🤣😭❤❤
🤩🤗GREAT REVIEW SHANE, AND IMHHO…ITS A HARD 😅 JOB ,BUT SOMEBODY HAS TO DO IT 😁💚💚💚
Thank you for this excellent comparison of these two premium brands! I believe you did not enable the XW7000ES's exclusive Live Color Enhancer, so other than the XW7000ES' higher peak luminance capability, I believe this review would be very much like the XW6000ES vs, JVC's NZ7 and they are in the same price category.
Shane's comments about the sharpness and picture quality are accurate. The JVC is just a tad bit softer. Sony really has the crisper more detailed image.
In fairness though the NZ7 is not the 7000’s primary competition… that would be the NZ9 with its better lens or compare the 6000 to the 7 or 8 since they closer in price.
Wouldn’t a better comparison be with the 6000es ?
I enjoyed the comparrison. Both appeared to show a very reapectable image. Personally, looking at the video on an oled I thought the jvc looked better, with better black levels apart from the cockpit scene. The sonys black looks elevated, but is def sharper. Would have loved to have seen a claibrated shootout between both. Auto cal with spider x offers a great quick and cheap calibration. Unfortunately as a gamer no hdmi 2.1 i could never consider the sony. I found the video very useful and helpful. It helped me decide to get an nz7 which arrives next week.
I'm sure you've realized by now that projector turns off a lot of the features that make it great in game mode, and you absolutely need to turn on game mode when gaming...
What's your honest experience with it so far?
When are you doing a 2022 room tour of ur home theater
Nothing has changed from the last one.
I just bought the Sony 5000 it looks sharp on content but soft on test patterns not DLP like but overall satisfied
I had the xw5000es for 2 weeks. I feem like thr picture was a touch out of focus and oversharpened to compensate. Obviously due to the lower quality lens. Still a good pj tho
Great 😃
Why didn’t you compare the Sony to the NZ8? That would be more on its level. Would love to see you do that. Thanks.
Watch the video again, there are no NZ8-9 available for him.
In the scene in the dark alley with EXCALIBUR sign, I find more realism in the Sony scene. It gives you a feeling that you are actually there, a feeling the JVC does not have.
It is the frames around the window in the middle ground that "Makes the reality" IMHO.
It is "The more texture" That makes "The reality" pop out and gives you a feeling of being present. Shout out to SONY!
Would you go with the Sony (5000es) w/ 110 inch screen or the new 98" TCL 4k tv? I have a light controlled room, but I still hear a 4k tv will produce a better picture. In that case, it seems like the only benefit to the projector is an extra 12 inches of screen. Thanks in advance to anyone who cares to share their opinion!
The extra 12" makes a big difference.
@@therealshanelee thanks. Yea, the wifey weighed in and we're definitely going projector. Do you think going "high end" on a screen from Screen Innovations is worth the money? I need an acoustic transparent screen and theirs is $4800. I initially thought that ridiculous but if it makes a huge difference, I'll shell out the money for the long run. Thanks Shane, really appreciate it!
@@Kontract_ get a Stewart screen
When someone is out of breath after picking up the projector you know that it HAS to be good bruh
Isn’t Sony’s VPL-GTZ380 projector was their flagship? Great video by the way.
Flagship affordable consumer projector.
@@therealshanelee Thanks for the clarification. So the xw7000es is considered the affordable option from Sony? Is the VPL-GTZ380 a consumer projector or is it meant for professional use?
Another nice vid. I saw there was another comparison that JVC NZ7 just beat the crap out of the Sony XW7000, and so this doesn’t seem to be correct based on this comparison then. Looks like both projectors kind of inherit their last gen’s traits in many ways. I’m gonna hold onto the last gen JVC and Sony I have and patiently wait for the next gen to come😄
I’ve heard, if we’re talking about the same event, that the settings were pretty much out of the box. But one thing readily apparent with the new Sonys is that historical best practices settings will lead to unsatisfactory results. But if you set it up to set contrast and brightness properly, all that Sony goodness comes back. Sony would be well advised to update their default settings. They are leading to an impression that is not great out of the gate.
@@scottwallace1 Yep. I think we’re talking about the same one. I was having a big question mark about that comparison, like how in the world I could make out things on my Sony, but the current flagship looked like a crap. JVC is better on black level and contrast, but that comparison was way too dramatic.
The JVC NZ8 is in the Sony XW7000 price class and is clearly better. So if you have either budget, do get the JVC. I have seen the JVC NP5, Sony XW5000 and JVC NZ8 (all calibrated) at a dealer in the Netherlands, and in my budget I liked the NP5 better over the XW5000 as it’s a more natural picture with great HDR. But the NZ8 was such a step up, unbelievable. Unfortunately way out of my budget.
What dealer did you go to?
For people complaining that it’s an unfair fight
Imma save y’all the trouble of eating time and energy to type all that out……. He FUCKING knows that!
The native contrast of those new Sony is disappointing, significantly lower compared to previous generations.
Where did you find Watchmen ultimate cut?
Kaleidescape
@@therealshanelee thanks a lot man
I understand that in your comparison, on the XW7000, the "HDR Enhancer" parameter is OFF, the laser dynamics is on FULL, the RC on OFF, and the HDR contrast at maximum, but with the contrast enhancer on OFF. These settings have the effect of completely killing the HDR rendering of the XW7000.
The test should be repeated by setting the HDR contrast to 85, the HDR Enhancer to maximum, the laser dynamics to OFF (or limited), and the RC to 40.
Or it would be necessary to deactivate the DTM of the JVC so that the comparison is fair
Those settings you gave look terrible.
@@therealshanelee Do you plan to update this comparison video? If it's possible on your side, it would probably be fairer in the comparison.
@@geraldcogneau6554 the settings you recommend look terrible as I said earlier. Why would I make a follow-up and make the Sony look worse than the JVC?
@@therealshanelee I don't understand, in fact, several people I know (via a French forum) have this XW7000 or have tested it, and they use this setting. And precisely he finds that this setting is appropriate for HDR content. Apparently, you don't agree with these people. In fact, these people have told me that the settings used in your video for the XW7000 do not give HDR content the edge. But you may just have a different opinion. In any case, I sincerely wanted to thank you for your answers.
@@therealshaneleeJust for your information, I personally own a JVC RS3100 (NZ8). I must say that I am amazed by the SDR and HDR rendering of this one. I also use MadVR on my HTPC. Personally, I think JVC's DTM is already good (even if MadVR's goes a little further).
@10:52 the only reason to compare these two projectors is because of the e-shift function. Its the reason I wanted to watch the video :P Its about the best projector and not trying to make the sony win
Fan noise is very noticeable.
Imagine calling NZ7 "cheap" LOL! It's more like Expensive vs Super Expensive 😅
😉🤣
The Sony ‘only’ costs £15000 in the UK versus £9000 for the JVC -price recently reduced and current as at March 2024.
Can’t wait for the xw7000
FYI. The jvc nz9 beat out the sony7000 pretty easily at a comparison event few weeks ago. One of the best calibrators in the business did all the calibrations and Sony reps also attended.
@@Ctripp2448 And the JVC wont degrade in 1 year and be trash...
@@ckra2001 yea scary how many Sony projectors had that issue
Interesting
Boy I don’t know. From the samples you showed. The jvc seemed to have way better contrast and pop. Detail and sharpness are wonderful but but if there’s no pop than I’m just not interested. To my eye the Sony seemed washed out in the clips shown. For less than half the money the jvc is the clear winner.
I have the Sony XW 6000 and it has an amazing picture. Dark scenes look great. My friend has the NZ 7 and we compared them. He even said that he wished he got the Sony XW 6000. It looks better overall and they are comparable in price.
Why on earth would a projector that expenive not have an automatic lens cover. Thats BS
Been wondering that for years.
Less moving parts is my guess, less things to cover under the warranty. It might be a part they were having issues with in terms of breaking down so they ditched it is my guess.
I’ll never buy another Sony projector. The SXRD panels still seam to suffer from loosing contrast and increasing grey blacks over time. Just saw a VPL-5000ES that’s been in a high end demo room here in Florida for the past 3-4 years and the black levels were terrible!
The sony 7000 is the competitor of the NZ9 price wise and brightness levels.... sony 6000 vs NZ8... when it comes to dark scenes and detail in those dark scenes.. the JVCs crush the competition... The Sonys have better motion processing... Youthman posted a video of a very large shootout between the sony 5000, 6000, 7000 and the jvc nz7, nz8 and nz9... some of the comparison scenes were literally NIGHT AND DAY
It’s explained in the video why the comparison was the way it was.
@@therealshanelee youre awesome man.. i wasnt responding to you.. i was responding to the comments saying you should compare the nz8 with the 7000.. when the 7000s true competitor is the nz9
ive owned sony projectors all my life.. and just paid in full for an NZ9.. still waiting for delivery.. its unexcusable that sony is selling a $30k projector in 2022 without hdmi 2.1 capabilities.. I do game on my projectors so its important to me.. plus if im spending $30k on a projector..i want it to be somewhat future proofed.. sony dropped the ball big time in my opinion
JVC black level and tone mapping is better. Sony is sharper.
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@@therealshanelee Oh that is it then, thanks!
Interesting comparing a $8000 projector vs a $26000 projector
Not dissing your video but a fairer comparison would be the NZ8/3100 or the NZ9/4100 against the XW7000 since the prices are more in line with one another. I understand you did the video based on the availability of product.
As a 3100 owner I agree that HDR optimizer is still not a set it and forget it feature. It all depends how accurate the metadata is on the content. Plus some content producers are still actually mastering for 4000+ nits when no typical consumer display is anywhere near that capability.
Also after being victim of a Sony SXRD projector panel degradation I’m not touching a Sony again until there’s conclusive evidence that it has been resolved.
I definitely like the detail of the Sony, but holy cow those dark city scenes are SOO washed out. The JVC is just in a different universe in that regard.
The video isn't doing the Sony any favors. It's much better in person.
@@therealshanelee Gotcha that's what I figured
Shouldn’t the title have been expensive versus even more expensive.
JVC half the price and a better picture. I'll take the brightness over sharpness.
wheres cheap pj?
The one projecting against the expensive one.
Instant pass on any Sony! Jvc contrast all the time every time
I won't pay more money to get horrible black levels on the Sony. The JVC is a far bettwr machine and for the money it's a no brainer. Next to colour accuracy contrast is a huge thing for me.
Neither are what I'd call cheap.
Don´t forget that the Sony will be degraded in 1-2 years and look like absolute garbage (not correctable), while you can easily repair the gamma drift on the JVC with Autocal without any loss in contrast. Not to mention the NZ9 (price equivalent to the XW7000) will walk all over it, it is just the 200% better projector.
Sony's new Native 4K SXRD panel that was designed and built for the new XW line up fixed the issue that was on the older models. You also have to appreciate Sony's X1 processor that is the same processor that is packed in Sony's very well respected $80,000 VPL-GTZ380. I also like how very quiet all of the new Sony XW operate and the excellent new ACF lens that delivers a very accurate sharp image across the entire screen. With all this said please know that I love JVC's NZ line and we are very proud factory direct JVC dealers. You can't make a mistake on either brand and each model can be selected to match every users use case and budget.
@@valueelectronics9390 No, it propably still persists... In a teardown of a VX5000 we saw that the wiregrids are still open to the humidty and not sealed like in the JVCs. Furtheremore Sony claimed to have fixed the issue with every projector since the original VW Series. And they did not, 760es, 870es, etc they all degrade fast and heavily.
@@ckra2001 Thanks for the reply! Do you have a link to the X5000ES tear down? I'd like to see it. I don't think the wiregrids are the problem. Sony has never told me they solved the reduced luminance issue until they developed the new native 4K HDR SXRD module for the XW line. Our store demo XW7000ES is only 3 week old, but we run it every day and the luminance has not changed. Please stop by our showroom if you are near us. I'd love to demonstrate the XW7000ES.
No dust filtering and the wire grids are exposed. I've seen some suggestions that JVC holds a patent on their design which is why Sony can't fix the issue easily by doing what JVC does. Apparently the GTZ380 "fixes" it by hermetically sealing the optical block.
First. I'm s Sony guy. As much as JVC may have better black level, there's just something about a Sony that's keeps me coming back.
Fan comes from the term FANATIC ... Sony loves your money. lol
The film industry has used Sony cameras for over 25 years. There is a very cinematic look to a projected image from a Sony product. The HDR tone mapping and black levels are not acceptable at the price points being asked.
Good thing the panel degradation on the Sonys brings you back...
@@ckra2001 😭😅🤣 you are not wrong. Mean but not wrong🤣😅
@@keepingupwiththejones2933 I have yet to see anyone have that problem especially since these projectors haven't even been out a year. I've seen no one complain about that problem even with the previous generation Sony's. Even my 5 year old 1080p Sony is still working great and hasn't degraded in the least. It's got 12,000+ hours on it and has gone through 3 bulbs.
If people are going to complain about this supposed problem, then talk about the symptoms, and how long it took before you even noticed it. So far, no actual owners who have experienced that problem even post in these comment sections. It's mostly people parroting something they heard on some forum. You know, "he said, she said".
27000 dollars !?!? They won't sell many.
This was kinda an unfair fight. Lets see the Nz9 vs 7000es
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If a single projector costs as much as a very good home theater setup including seating, paint, cables etc, its not worth it. Hell even the jvc is pushing it.
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Silly comparison. Should be NZ8/9 vs the XW7000Es. Also zero contrast measurements.Not great.
Silly comment. Pay attention next time.
@@therealshanelee where are ur measured contrast measurements in this review? (not what the manufacturer states) where are ur contrast measurements of the NZ7 closed iris vs open iris?
All this review ultimately did was talk about HDR performance and tone mapping of the two projectors.
@@gintokigriffiths1086 did you pay attention to the video? If you did you'd know everything your complaining about was addressed.
@@therealshanelee the answer is 'no, i did not measure the projectors or professionally calibrate them as i dont know how to calibrate and measure contrast'
@@gintokigriffiths1086 the answer is YES. I absolutely didn't pay attention on my opening comment. Which was silly of me to make.
Out of focus your camera
I watched a couple of your videos. You have no room to critique any other content creators 😭😅