Why Do Genshin Impact Players Quit? | HexJuice Reacts
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When ur asking if wuwa is too nice with the gifts. You're already too far gone.
"You woudln't know that you were in a toxic relationship, until you get out of it."
I wish my toxic relationship was people giving me free stuff 😂@@kisame886
“Oh no, please stop giving me free rewards” 😂😂😂
Its sad because genshin is all about the devs getting tons of money while we suffer so much :(
@@kisame886 MSF pfp I see, pretty good
I really can't get back to genshin after experiencing the no stamina running and parkour. Just that made a big impact to me.
True, but if you build movement based units you don’t feel as slow. Having stamina makes you try enjoy the scenery more. A full movement based team on genshin feels massively faster than Wuthering Waves.
@@1000HoursAtTheLibrar yeah just need to pull yelan wanderer kazuha sayu
It made a big *genshin* Impact? 🗿
@@1000HoursAtTheLibrar the copium is strong on this one.
Bro the fact that you need specific units in genshin just to experience free mobility makes it worst than wuwa wherein every character can do it for free.
Genshin literally sells QoL thru their characters. Its just sad and hilarious at the same time.
Climbing in genshin is SO boring and irritating, and i despised it. I'm so glad we can just run up the walls and flip to save time because genshins exploration overall was one of the main things that made me quit a year ago.
Everytime I have to slowly crawl up wall and not jump because I wouldn't have enough stamina I scream "damn you Zelda" internally, but very loudly.
@@Gnidellmao Zelda😭🤣
@@GnidelAnd the thing is that Zelda has integrated it sensibly into the gameplay so that it is much more worthwhile to do the shrines and take full advantage of the mechanics.
In Genshin you collect these symbols, but unlike Zelda it is limited to "jump/fly onto the collectible". In WuWa you can walk onto the walls and have more freedom to get the collectible with the dash/grappling hook and in WuWa you have to become a Pokemon trainer so that you can permanently increase your stamina, which brings more structure and depth to the exploration part in WuWa.
I quit BotW fast due to how climby it was. Literally the worst Zelda, worse then Skyward sword by far. I have no idea how BotW became the standard when the game is just objectively bad.
@@zealgaming8161 Zelda BotW has been one of the best video games of the last decade.
Nintendo has simply shown that it is not open world games themselves that are bad, but rather the companies that simply follow every trend. Zelda has also shown that single player games still have a right to exist.
im a day 1 player too..whiteknighted the game so hard for 2 years.wasted thousands of dollars for it too
then a meme hit me about employees and their employer
"sir we need a raise for better morale" "no we do pizza party"
it opened my eyes that mihoyo never care to begin with,i remember during first anniv that they said they cant give much reward cause they will be forced to give more during next anniv..and voila 4 fucking anniv with the same amount to the mats rewards.
quits and never look back,and looking back how toxic i was
Day 6 player and I feel you.
I also lasted for 2 years, literally quit on the same day of the year of when I started, few days after they pulled a jokeversary 2.0 electric boogaloo.
I was always critical of the game because I feel I cared, probably too much.
My enjoyment peaked with dragonspine, man I still remember the fun I had after 1.3, we got our first new area, new storyline, and also the free standard pulls from ascending characters. Got so many pulls I hit pity and got a new shiny Diluc. In hindsight that was the most generous mihoyo ever has been in the story of the game. Lots of players getting 30-40 pulls or more, and half of them hit standard pity with that.
Also at the time we were at the beginning so most of us were sitting at lv 60-70 underbuilt talent lv 1 characters with WL4 that was the biggest difficulty spike for a beginner. Man if fighting was challenging and fun. I had a cryo lawachurl on the summit getting bugged and instantly recasting shield and slamming, took me half an hour of dodging, running around and spamming revives, to beat it with my lv 70 traveler and my lv 60 barbara, fischl, and diluc (with random purple crimson witch artifacts since I never farmed the domain before).
After that my enjoyment remained stable until the 1.6 archipelago, where we got hit by the first big let down of them removing the map for bs reasons.
I had high hopes for inazuma and the anniversary to raise me back up, and I got let down twice.
Honestly I should've quit after the people protest failed and everyone stopped trying and gobbled the 1600 primogems and glider, but it seems like I love being abused by game companies.
Most 2.x patches were empty trash and I suffered that, sumeru was terrible but at least I had new exploration and main quest right?
Then second jokeversary came and I got myself to quit.
I would also say Tower of Fantasy helped me too, so in a way it become the genshin killer lol.
I still play ToF btw.
Game has so many issues but I have fun, and the devs actually fix problems, implenent QoL, and most importantly, they listen to feedback!
Genshin could never.
Tbh, not all hoyo probably, HSR players eating good as long as you can stand a lot of story yapping (granted the story is amazing, just a lot of yapping)
day 1 player, used to fight the Honkai Impact players because how they say bad about Genshin, now I quit after playing WuWa
Even Furina C5 with sig doesn't make me stay Genshin
@@DrBagel. HSR needs to because they have competition plus the game isnt open world, if were like genshin, hardly doubt it could be generous to players
@@nah131 Well as a former Honkai Impact player (jumped on PGR), my first impression of Genshin in Day 1, "what a freaking chore is this game, the combat compared to honkai is braindead uninteresting" and given i already tasted Mihoyo gacha i eventually uninstall the game after finishing Venti quest, for us honkai impact players we were expecting Genshin Imapact to be pretty much like WuWa fast pace open world ARPG, but what we got is a very slow paced game from traversing to combat.
Die hard genshin fans who refuse to play wuwa just because it's a competition will never get the feeling of being heard of as a player and see the love of the devs for the game they created and how hard they try to communicate with their community.
The fact that genshin community is still big shows that 5 of 10 random persons we see on the street are actually masochists lmao
I agree, game devs who value their players are absolute w. They even fixed minor bugs, and even sending free pulls as compensation (the players didn't asked for it but its cool)
To be fair if they (Wuwa devs) didn't listen to the community, the game would still be as buggy as it was at release.
@@silverwinter1597that's the main difference between two games. One dev listens when other doesn't. Cause the release of wuwa is really identical to genshin 1.0 but them listening and constantly trying to do improvements is setting them apart
@@silverwinter1597 they did listen, some of the problems with the beta was the sound of the sword hitting, people said to wuwa devs and they changed it to be better, it's so good
In Wuwa you can parkour for free. In Genshin I had to pull for like four 5 star characters to explore the world without being a shore. I have scaramouch, Yelan, Arlechinno, Xianyun. You need several 5* characters just to make exploration bearable. I cant even imagine how people played Sumeru's desert without someone like Yelan. Here, you dont need to pay to feel comfortable playing the game.
I had to change my team every single minute just to walk around. I want to use a dendro team but no I don't have Kazuha to jump or Yelan to dash.
Remember needing geo mc on the team just so you can climb, and you need to wait a few seconds just to climb a few more feet because of the skill cd.
I coped with sayu
Genshin be like
-let's make one of the QOL exclusive to one character that you must pull/pay to make traversal better
-Next thing, wallrun, Double jump or air dash that only certain 5* limited characters can do
That was me. I explored everything with just the MC
Kuro games just released their new patch- stack full of updates players actually asked for. THEY ACTUALLY READ OUR SURVEYS. That feels so fucking UNREAL. It’s so sad in hindsight that it does.
Thank you Kuro.
Yuuuuuuusss it's the fact that the read the surveys! Yaaaaaaasss it's just a legit joy fest because so far the game is headed for such a high praise and success. They cooking and I'm salivating!
Chad SOLON and his Chad Crew
I had someone defending Genshin so hard the other day about the traversal and stamina system. The guy had Yelan, wanderer and sayu equipped, like please put yourself in my shoes as someone who only has Sayu. It’s pain and playing Sayu in the overworld other than the traversal is pain and a waste of slot.
Yeah, the fact that it's fairly easy to travel with all wuwa characters, even the smaller characters. Genshin was always a pain to travel in as someone who loves exploring and genuine drained it out of me, till wuwa obviously
Legit, like the fact that you need a full team of mostly 5 stars just to effectively explore is so shitty and gets boring real fucking fast.
I have all those characters and it still sucks. It's complete ass how Hoyo sells actual characters as better transversal options.
@@MikanVTuber Tall characters for running, climbing, and swimming. Short characters for faster gliding.
It’s sad knowing Genshin could be so much better but hoyo won’t take it to its full potential
Yes they don't care about their players, they only use them to get money
Genshin its just a money laundry for other games to shine
How lives so far? Simple answer: "appealing" characters
They only care for our money and honkai series, in wuwa kuro only need 1 day to fix bugs while in genshin.... pffttt
Less effort more money
Na... genshin is just their wallet....the money goes to other game
The Festering Desire situation hit me SO HARD that I yelled at the top of my lungs together with Hex
Remembering that UNLOCKED something in me I SWEAR
@@hexjuice AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
WHY WOULD YOU REPLY?!?!?!?! AND MAKE ME THINK OF IT AGAIN
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I'm back. I haven't recovered from this video yet.
The one thing you said which I think lit up all of my pent-up aggression towards genshin was when you mentioned that "Every Genshin hater once loved the game."
I kinda think now that every WuWa hater also secretly hates genshin, but is under a sunken cost fallacy. And this made me feel so validated after trying to talk to friends for so long xD
And naturally, all of my friends own Festering Desire, so yeah - god I needed to let that out.
To counter this they made every limited event weapon absolute dog water. Some okay, but only for very specific characters
@@tozu777 the same with Arlecchino's weapon
being overshadowed by a 3 star weapon.😂
I got the same feeling but it was after playing HSR. I stopped playing genshin 1 week into HSR.
- The daily quests
- No stamina bar
- Auto pickup loot
- Way less grindy to level up characters and weapons.
- 4* and even 5* lightcones easily obtainable.
And more QoL. Going through all that and returning to Genshin felt horrible. Especially because I was asking for many of those changes in Genshin and the community of shteaters shut those down instantly and makes excuses on behalf of hoyo
Holy cow the dailies. I am tired of delivering food to some random villager. On HSR you can work on building your characters and progress the dailies.
Having to murder the same 3 tribes of hilichurls with 0 benefit for your characters/equipment progress just feels bad.
@@mrstalfos7489 and when you need to talk to an npc, you can't even skip their yapping. Everything in the game feels so outdated.
@@mrstalfos7489 Agreed 100%. In HSR you just have to farm exp/relics and dailies complete. In Genshin I always dread the dailies, teleporting to different location and having to talk to NPC that you can't skip by the way.
In hsr, the dailies are just complete by doing normal resource/relic grinding. Far easier and more relaxing
I can smell those m1n1pickers coming to defend their out of touch game
Thanks for the reaction, Queen. I really enjoyed listening to your response (I LOL'd at 18:58 and I HEAR YOU). I've been blown away by the response to that video. You make some great points as well and I'm looking into the mic that you mentioned. I think a new one will be coming soon 🎙
Yeah you're on point, it's definitely a pretty crazy ask to revise the elemental reaction system and how things currently are. "Overhaul" is probably not the most appropriate wording here. I should have been more nuanced with this point. My thinking is more so to expand how they work and introduce more complexity without taking away things people already like. I've seen people speak conceptually about new reactions like with Geo and Pyro (Magma?), and I feel like this sort of thing should have happened over time and Dendro is really all we've had in this regard. So e.g. - Add new reactions to existing elements, and things of that nature.
Again, we all know Geo in particular could *massively* benefit from this and they absolutely have the ability and resources to do these sorts of things. I should have articulated this point better but yeah as you say, making sweeping changes relating to changing how existing reactions work would be a massive ask, and very risky at that. I feel like evolution to the systems should have happened incrementally over time, basically. Old reactions have been allowed to remain on their own since inception (outside of Dendro) and to me have very much become stagnant.
Just adding this as well - I made a second video talking about this, but many people are correct (including you 27:23) in rebutting my request for using unlevellved echoes to level other echoes. This is probably the main point in the video on which I needed to clarify things further - There needs to be gating in place for this 100%. My ideas are that gold echoes shouldn't yield more than lower tier tubes, but also, perhaps a daily limit on how many you can actually use this way (15?). I think it would add to the experience, make farming feel more meaningful, and give you more to do in a day, without being too unrestricted to the point where people endlessly farm and run out of things to do. Overall, I do think they need to address the tube "economy" but I know they've acknowledged people's concerns with this, so we'll see what they do!
I'll leave y'all with this for now, and another point of criticism to bring up, as more are coming to mind post this original rant - Certain QoL changes are locked behind character kits. Chiori allows switching character mid-air as part of her kit 🙃 - I feel like you can make these characters special in ways that don't feel like a slap in the face for a feature that should have already been there years ago as a core mechanic... (WuWa also allows mid-air switching).
Peace be with you!
Ah, I remember this video. Bless this soul for finally seeing the light
I log into genshin for 2 minutes, try to dash and Zipline instinctually then immediately log out with sadness. Wuther my waves, plz
I have high hope that WuWa will gonna have echo loadouts on the future patch...since PGR have one..u can put custom name on it and slap on any character u want
I was one of those people who installed Genshin like 5 times but always ended up uninstalling after a few hours because the gameplay just wasnt it, even waaay before WuWa was a thing. I don't play any Gacha games but I thoroughly enjoyed games like BotW/TotK, Elden Ring, NieR: Automata and Xenoblade and Wuthering Waves feels like a mix of all of those games. It's everything I could have ever asked for - and it's a free game on top of that. WuWa is despite all of its flaws (mainly the abysmal EN dub and its mostly mediocre writing), insanely addictive and has so much potential and I can't wait to see what this game is gonna look like in 1 or 2 years if 1.0 is already so much fun.
5 times? Lol I downloaded genshin like 20 times since release the longest I played is like a month long and always quitting because of the one issue artifacts grind and no content to use your Build for.
English dub always sucks, if I couldnt change the language in Genshin I wouldnt have played it for more than 3 hours. Paimon voice was horrible. Just use the chinese or japanese dub because it is always way better.
@@raymondcampusano2991 that's why I always play JP, sometimes the jp may give u the impression it doesn't fit the character but it grows in you pretty fast.
EN otherwise is always a hit or miss, in HSR is mostly a hit but in genshin is mostly a miss before Sumeru (and some NPC's)
ofc it will feel like all of those games. Kuro's previous game is literally just
Devil Nier: Revengeance but with more anime androids, We'll be eating good with WUWA.
@@KePzez Punishing: Gray Raven 🗣️🔥🔥🔥
As much as I want to laugh, I can't.
I actually feel bad for the guy cuz I know how it feels to quit a game and losing hope to the devs (F**k you, Avabel).
Avabel?
And i can see that you're a good guy 👍🗿
Yea asobimo put all their resources to toram and alchemia story
wait what happened with Avabel? I used to play that game when I was still in high school like 2013 or 2014. I'm so curious
@@botcchidotcchi some pasts are never to be brought up again...
@@botcchidotcchi To put it very short, The progression ceiling keeps increasing, Game mechanics got changed alot, Greed is something else, and Devs doesnt care about the game anymore.
I'm a Day 1 player and I stopped playing on Early May, just this year.
before Wuthering Waves release. and I have no plans of returning.
I am not day one player but play before inazuma release. At first, i felt excited to play, especially when a new patch came, but when after a few patches, i think when shenhe was introduced for the first time, then i burned out, after 5 months i return when sumeru release and only the worse quest which is aranara quest that took 1 whole week to finish it. And burned out for a second time until 3.7 before fontaine. I play until 1 week before Wuwa release. Now i realise that it felt so empty to me in genshin after play wuwa like combat and exploration. I am glad that I was able to play wuwa and become a day 1player.
I play when first time it came out, and not my game, then my friend recomended it, try it after vesion 4 with buyout 2nd hand ID (20$ for 3 x 5 star pick what I want).
Can't stand the combat because how slow and easy that stuff is, and the most annoying thing as new player is the slog of adventurer level to progress in the story.
I just like... "I'm tired boss" quit the game not even reaching adventurer 30.
If your game can't improve after 2 years, best just leave that game, unless they got "FF reborn" campaign.
I played at the Furina banner, then quit after getting burned out collecting chest just to scrape pulls for Furina.
I got her, but my enjoyment never increased. Stopped logging in and after a month of not logging in, I unistalled for Phone space.
Day one player too i just had to quit when sumeru trailer just dropped i don't even care about it at that point i don't have the hype for it anymore i got too burned out playing it
@@amiruliman1648 sumeru took off the hype to me as well... I didn't care about the game afterwards.
I was expecting the story to be a bit deep like Star Rail or Impact 3rd. sadly, nahida's story is not that deep as I have hoped it to be. let alone Furina's mickey mouse story.
I will play Genshin again when they add a fking skip button. They want to torture you with the daily missions. They hate their players.
Those are also my terms. A skip button and endgame.
Daily missions got a new points system though.
@@RKNancyyou won't get that either if you already max your expo or don't have any events to do
it's worse. Mihoyo just don't care . Mihoyo only wants money.
@@acasualgachagamer6816 Nah mate... It's just the Genshin Impact Devs... miHoYo Honkai Devs Do Listen... Tears of Themis Devs also Listen...
My friend who used to play Genshin is a major stan. I basically told him how i wasn't sure I'd play again after experiencing WuWa. Bro spent over 2,00$ maxing out the exploration characters. You know, Wanderer, Yelan, Xianyun and literally sat me down to devise a plan on how tp climb infinitely with the anemo boys. I opened up WuWa on my phone and showed him the movement and combat. Now he has over 40 gigabytes of space on his pc so he can download his PDFs and assignments without using my pendrive
That thing about the Npc's in genshin is so true! Even when an NPC does return like the girl from the sumeru fungus pokemon event, she went from a tanned eremite model to a Fontaine noble model and people are so brain rot ridden they didn't notice hoyoverse couldn't even bother to giver her a unique model.
*Sluggish* is the perfect way to describe Genshin rn. Endless paragraphs of dialogue just for quick mini-game events, having to go to the Adventurer's guild to collect daily rewards and expeditions, slowly climbing and running out of stamina after 5 seconds of sprinting, having to wait days to farm specific books or weapon materials
It's just so slow and the devs just don't care about these things for some reason
I’ve played Genshin since day 1 and stopped playing the game when Enkonomiya was finished.
What got me to stop playing was how the developers tend to slap their players in the face. One example is the anniversary stuff. Then their Q&A developer notes was always filled with random question that nobody really ask about nor care.
This recent Resin cap increase still feels like what they always do to their players; a slap to the face. An extra 40 stamina? What’s that going to do? Absolutely nothing.
They made up their own question to make it as if they were listening, them huring bots during Anniv drama to counter the rating just made me think that every people who defend this game are paid.
Genshin Impact has a special place in my heart. Played it since released. I love the lore, the world, characters, everything. But I'm probably not going back anytime soon. I just feel like, it lost the spark.
The only gameplay for genshin right now is just Login -> Daily Quest -> Log out or just don't even Log in at all.
The funny thing is as a day 1 Genshin player, I realized how bad the game's state was when I logged in and enjoyed the new story content, but then had nothing else to do once I triple crowned my Furina. I literally ran out of content without story to play and because I built the character I wanted to build.
I haven't played Genshin since February because of this~~~
Will make you even sadder to discover the game always has been like that, and always will be.
You were just too busy to realize it.
Now you are done and you realized the truth, that there is nothing to do.
Last month i stopped and i never felt free from daily task lol its so mind numbing
I played since release and only missed 3 days of login.
I really felt the urge to quit from hsr i played it and it feels so much better, i only stuck to genshin since i really love their artstyle, characters and bgms hope wuwa will top this too
I had this same realisation when Raiden came out and I finished building her
ayo I watched this vid yesterday and thought "oh I'd like to hear HexJuice's reaction on this" and here we are lets goo
what I wanted to say on stream, I recently played Cyno's 2nd story quest just to see the story, then later that day Jiyan's story quest and DAMN the difference is insane
Jiyan's quest actually made me wanna play through a character quest again, not aching for it to finally be over for once
the quality in animations is so much better in wuwa, while genshin charas are just doing this 🧍 the whole time
they really made Jiyan's story seem more impactful too
genshin's chara quests take soo long to pick up in pace, before that you're literally doing the most boring, unimportant sht
the writing in this Cyno story kinda felt like a middle schooler's fanfic tbh lmao
Same, played thru Chasm main quest and there’s so many moments with the beautiful objects around they could’ve used to show not tell, to create emotion- but instead you just get a character telling you what’s happening verbatim like this 🧍
Same as me, day 1 player,
I finished Genshin already, I don't have anything left to do with the resin nor I do want more characters, I have everything
I can understand him, after a game it's finished, that's it
And the story was so stagnant that I already lost the interest, so yup, I feel what he says
@@yeumu yep, hoyo will never get my money anymore. never.
This is kinda heartbreaking. Man held his ground to the bitter end, hoping for a brighter future that never came.
#Genshincouldnever
I used to always buy monthly bp and monthly gems for genshin till i think about 2 years ago, they admitted they were not going to add end game content. Right now my main game is hsr and wuwa. Monthly bp and jades for wuwa only.
There's a pretty crappy locked of getting certain top ups. The purchase of daily primogems for logging in was locked to console for me. I started playing on PC because of the modding community. There's sooo many skins you can get for free (if you don't mind a bit of lag)
I believe the rewards from the tacid fields just need to be buffed by at least 20% just to match the amount of wave plates being used
I would prefer it to be reduced to 40 instead, I like fighting in this game so more the better, also gives you two more runs to split between different sets
an Argument that Genshin players tend to make is that Genshin is a different game than WuWa; Genshin is more focused on Exploration and WuWa is more focused on Combat. Now at hindsight, this makes sense; until you factor in all of the Exploration QoL that WuWa implements.
Wall Sprinting and Fantasy Parkour is one, we also got Inferno Rider and Heron as a pseudo-mount, and if those weren't enough, wait until you master the Super Jump Tech.
Putting all of those into the equation, it is absurd that Genshin, an exploration focused game, makes the exploration such a chore.
A friend of mine have quit Genshin but he suffered from PGSD (Post Genshin Stress Disorder) and he was baffled on why I enjoy WuWa's exploration a lot. All of those QoL really does help my enjoyment.
I would disagree in changing characters. They could buff the older characters in Genshin. I come from PGR and all the Gen 1 characters were power creeped hardcore by the Gen 2 characters. Close to a year after the community complained they went ahead and buffed all the Gen 1 characters with also some new movesets to be somewhat close to power but of course not on Par with Gen 2. It made Gen 1 viable again to do the newer content so your investment feels like it wasent a waste. Gacha games can buff and change their characters if they want to since Kuro proves that point a lot.
Still waiting for Gen 1 Watanabe, Bianca, and Namami leap.
I already stopped playing after I finished everything at Inazuma during 1st anniversary. I even streamed my footage of uninstalling the game in front of my friends to show I'd be a clown if I install it again (unless new director stepped in and fix the game, ofc). The fact that people still hold on to their hope when I saw that coming is ... something.
I'm from Indonesia, before I didn't think that wuwa would really damage genshin because they have a huge player base and community, but seeing this quit wave of genshin player, i think genshin killer is Real on wuwa.
Nah. The real Genshin Killer is Genshin itself. It just got worse when they found REAL competition. TOF tried, but it was at core, a multiplayer game with adventure as add-ons. WuWa is just what people was asking from Genshin - a hassle-free Open-world with Dynamic and Exciting gameplay. We might not be able to reach millions of damage as regular players, but we can feel the adrenaline it gives upon getting good on the game.
Not really genshin revenue are still better than WuWa lol
@@zoe4965 Well, we can only see by the end of month. I'm not hoping much since Clorinde is so underwhelming. I had her and most she could do is a hyperbloom/quicken/spread activator in C0. Sigewinne is also the least anticipated character same as Emilie and will likely remain as-is until 4.0 release unlike Jinhsi, Chanli, and the present Banner Yinlin, which are good units. Cope harder bro.
In a sense, Genshin devs are so up in their thrones thinking throwing niche characters would be enough and people will remain loyal to them. They wont. They just won't except for brainwashed people who spent tons of money already in the game and the poor people who can't afford a good device to play WuWa
@@megumin9967 you can already tell lol. On the sensor tower site, the most grossing games section. Clorinde made more money than the puppet lady 😂
@@zoe4965the only thing genshill can be proud of is the profit lmao, are you a masochist?
"Why don't you have festering desire?"
Day 1 player here, I have that and even I found that crap annoying af...
I empathized with my friends who were bitter cuz they didn't have that weapon...
it's a slap on the face... at least make those weapons available to obtain even tho it's hard... at least players can have a way to obtain it and not go with the FOMO bs...
They could just do like with the music drum and the balloons and have them available at a specific vendor but make them super expensive.
Or even just give the blacksmiths an extra option like "I want to see your 'special' items." Make them cost several million mora or use certain mats like in Fontaine and there it is. Upgrade mats can go to the regional souvenir shop (the one with the gem over their heads).
I'll give... the tail end of Snezhnaya before we get that option. What do you think?
@@SageRuffin for something that's supposed to be free for everyone since it's an event weapon... it's pretty doable to them since they have nothing to lose...
Watching this after the announcement + leaks for what patch 1.1 will add makes it so much more agreeable.
WuWa fixing the issues with previous rarity tuners by allowing us to synthesize it to the premium 5 star ones, better echo rewards from dailies (1 cost -> 3 cost), more daily missions so you can finish dailies even faster to respect our time, etc etc.
I play genshin mainly for exploration and the story has always been a nice cherry on top. My baseline for genshin has always been breath of the wild which I thought was mid personally. It has always been better than botw and hasn't fallen below that standard for me yet so I still like it. Waiting on wuwa to fix it's problems before i get into it but once it does we'll see.
eversince i started playing wuwa..it became so hard to let go the grapple,parkour/sprint and story/cutscene skip feature..i literally went back to genshin after insanely grinding in wuwa for 6 days to grind primos for alhaitam banner but it feels so uncomfortable playing idk maybe my brain got so used to the wuwa mechanics..
I stopped playing genshin last month after playing it from launch i always buy monthly there, i love the characters the scenery the bgms and main story but the devs didnt seems to care.
Iam having a blast on wuwa and i hope it doesnt flop in a long run i would spend here instead. I feel the qol and the rewards really feels like they listened hope they will always do this.
Ive got 2 stories 1 before wuwa and 1 after wuwa released.
1. Got back on genshin to see whats going on seen that they added a new node and i was like "wow another statue" to be pulled into a 5 or 10min long voiceless cutscene about some cat that i didnt care about which later made me alt+f4 after the word dump ended.
2. Got on recently to see the ultra "hard" abyss to not be surprised and got off. genshin is genshin and it will be till either hoyo run out of money or the story end so they can have a excuse to start improving
just found this video whilst scrolling and i related so much.
i myself just uninstalled my genshin 3 days ago.
everything felt like a chore in genshin. i feel sleepy whenever i open the game.
and the one that really cut the string for me is that they don't care about POC inclusivity in their upcoming region (Natlan) despite the mass criticism.
I started playing Genshin in 2022, 2.8 specifically. I think the Chronicled Wish was the straw that broke the camel’s back for me, I was pissed when that was announced for 4.5. It is essentially a banner for a lot of older characters and some limited weapons, just in the worst way possible in my opinion. I was pissed cause a big problem I have with Genshin is doing a lot for so little reward, and putting another banner with a 50/50 for 80 pulls just broke me. I wanted Klee so bad and I couldn’t get her, I couldn’t take that chance.
So now I’m playing until I can get Furina (and build her, already prefarmed). That’s the last character I want that I can get, and then I’m done. In comparison Wuthering Waves feels like a lot less pressure, probably something to do with it being a new game, and the other part is it’s far less stressful to wish & play the game so far.
Same with furina, and people will have a counter argument with your point like: it is a free game, they dont need to give you reward( they are genshin shill and they dont undrstand the point of gacha game) but i agree with you
@@Bronan2920 Sure they don't but it's a good gesture for keeping the audience enganged and willing to oversee your flaws. For example, Wuwa right now has a lot of flaws, but due to the rewards as apologies and the fact that they actively listened, they're held in higher regard and build a more loyal community less likely to burnout. Same with HSR. It just feels good to get something back from a game that still wants your money and time. Makes you feel cared about.
It's like a job. Your boss isn't obligated to make you a cake for a job well done, but you're more likely to work harder after being given a cake for a job well done.
@@strawberryfox8819 genshin already had a big brainwashed fanbase whose willingly to oversee the flaws as long as the game keep adding new regions and characters🥳
@@Bronan2920 But they're losing that fanbase, have been for the past year at least.
@@strawberryfox8819 well yea but not much
Bing back Scar's zipper 😭
There's a mod for that. I was scrolling game banana for HSR skin mods and saw WuWa mods. Modding WuWa bugs the coloring of characters based on distance.
I started Genshin the week it released and I remember vividly how I thought it was everything I wanted in a game. But it didn't take long for me to realize it really wasn't what I wanted, that I had huge expectations for the game but they'd never be met.
people treating games like some religion
Or a job
defend your genshin like you all always do.
Also, One burger please
@vanqwesh3408 bruh, i played a game whenever i like to play, and i dont defend any shit in my comment. i know some people are still playing fgo when there's a lot of good turn based games nowadays, and i don't see they got shamed for playing that. let people quit and play whenever and whatever they want..and i love playing wuwa my union level is almost 45
That's because to many, it is.
For all intents and purposes, the lack of religion in the Western regions of the World are showing that people still look for guidance to form their personality and daily life.
A lot drifted towards ideologies, others to gaming.
Genshin = Apple religion
WuWa = Samsung (innovation)
I actually laughed for a whole minute when playing CRK and saw the Toppings(Same as Artifact) Loadout...
God damn that Plazookas face at the end is the best lmao
I quit Genshin before Wuwa came out, I installed again to play with a friend and the moment I logged back in and saw all the stuff I needed to do, remembering the ass farming system I had to uninstall again. Wuwa pretty much saved me ngl. It made me have actual fun.
After playing wuwa, I can say that, it has a lot of potential than genshin.
Whats crazy for me is the ads on yt once I quit watching genshin content the ads stopped I started on wuwa content and its all Genshin / HSR ads
If the level limit on Echoes remains the same, and RNG still determines the substats, and it still takes time to farm Echoes, and people still can't manipulate space-time like the Hyperbolic Time Chamber, would it REEEEEEALLY be broken to enable infinite Echo EXP farming? I mean, it's not like the game's main product is Echo Exp.
I myself quit Genshin. My reason is because the Abyss and this the second time I got the 2 useless hp donuts instead of wanderers weapon!! 😤 I’ll probably be back to play it in another week or so😂
Imao
Imagine treating game as a job and then burning out like a match, westerners are compleyely insane when it comes to gacha games, too many normies got into the medium during the pandemic as well... And then they jump from one needle on another one which is just a worse version of the first one and delude themselves into believing that they are saved, lol...
Despite the skip button. I keep listening to the dialogue.
It feels like I'm tapping out, instead of being held against my will. Though for repeat dialogue it is a lifesaver.
Been playing since like 2 or 3 days after release and I still play to this day, BUT I only play for dailies, events, any new area to 100% while I wait for the next archon quest. I'm invested in the story, that's what's keeping me at this point since I already built my characters. THAT SAID, what this man said in the vid is all true and I feel his pain.
27:33 they actually have an artifact strong box for echoes in wuwa, it's merge echoes in the echo level menu
it is shit
Meanwhile here's me enjoying both games. Wild i know. Real tired of people making vids how they quit genshin or how they quit wuwa.
Same, also wanna add that most people complaining about Genshin not giving out enough free stuff or a 5star character are choosing beggars. Imagine being not intelligent enough primos for certain characters you may want to summon on. You will get to the same point in WuWa as well and if you're there remember this post cause y'all should stop repeating garbage from twitter.
Enjoy any game you want but stop being entitled choosing beggars.
@@Eunha1311 unfortunately there’s a data I come across years ago, that most people who play genshin first time are new to gacha. (So they don’t know how to manage pulls, which is what a gacha game does and they get your money) Compare to wuwa I still don’t see the 108 free pulls they promised to give even with the standard pull compensations. There’s no way people can get this down bad because they give out a free five star(especially it’s a standard). Just like every other cn community, especially in bilibili. Us Chinese players feels quite confused how people foreign gets some treats and just sits to wait. In the cn environment there’s no way people will grow with a game that’s bad in first impression, especially the culture drama etc. People give three chances on cbt, and you know what kuro did, they listened. Still didn’t exceed the expectations, kuro however did the same thing on how they compensated with pgr release, only this time, no one falls for their so called generous compensation, because what most cn player wants is something casual to enjoy, because they just don’t see gacha games being the need to be competitive. Since competitive game will be those pc games like csgo league etc.
Which in conclusion, wuwa did serve some people’s need of high combat gacha game?😂
"Look at me. I'm so special."
The reason why increasing the resin cap in genshin is good (for people that still play it) is because with the current cap it takes less than 24 hours to recharge all your resin from 0, which means you have to log in twice a day to not waste any.
I did log in twice before, so this +40 did actually nothing for me. Just "we give you nothing, hope you're thankful" Was one of the reasons I don't feel like playing anymore.
What do you mean? It literally takes 26 hours to restore all resin now. They didn't change the time required for restoration of 1 resin.
@@user-tq1km9mz4t exactly, it means you only need to log in once a day to burn your resin instead of twice after the change. Thank you for proving my point.
5:21 The traversal system and combat of Tower of Fantasy made me abandon my two Genshin accounts XD
But during that time I know the existence of Wuthering Waves being developed
After wuwa i entered genshin my brain stopped and I did know what to do.
ive played genshin for a hot minute and the thing that really killed it for me was everything feels like a slog the cutscenes are super long,the resin system makes things feel like itll take a decade to actually get good artifacts then traversal is super slow it took me to get scaramouche to actually find enjoyment in the game but ive uninstalled started playing wuthering waves and love the game cause i feel like it not only respects my time but also gives me a chance to get into the game if you dont get a 5 star or some decent character in genshin have fun playing the f2p nightmare squad whereas in WuWa you just get to choose a 5 star and at 45 it lets you choose a weapon youre at least getting what you want and have the means to make it strong. echoes are also sick thanks for letting me grind WuWa lol
Playing the game since day 1. Always bought blessing every month. Then,that "here...free 3 pull for your 3 years of support" accident make me realize how this dev never really appreciate the player.
Idc if they didn't give us free primo for the aniv, or free 5 star char. But the audacity to think that our 3 years of support Just as valuable as 3 junk is really hurt me. It's even better if they just keep quiet and don't give anything away than to insult me with 3if.
I don't often comment on videos, despite having things to talk about. Wuthering Waves is honestly soooo much better than Genshin Impact, the amount of effort put into Wuwa was ridiculous the first time I opened it. The game is beautiful, the story is dark and meaningful, the lips match the English language, which is huge for me, the limitless running.
I'm still going to play Genshin because I'm bored, but I'm mainly playing Wuwa throughout the day enjoying the atmosphere.
Tbh a lot of people are not playing genshin impact because its not fun anymore but im quitting the game because of how much space it need like bro i cant play the game on my pc &ps4 &phone cuz of how much gb it is and slowly it feels like genshin might be a dead game now bc its not that fun anymore & bc of how much space it needs and its rlly sad to believe the truth about genshin impact but i just hope that they will make the game better and more fun and more story quests that are fun and most importantly not that space needed i hope they will do that one day and im not gonna delete my fav game cuz i have hope in it😊
I enjoy Genshin a lot but now I’m not worried about logging in every day and using my all of my resin anymore ever since WuWa came out.
The only reason I'm still playing genshin is because my laptop cant handle wuwa😢.....even on the lowest graphics wuwa is still looks gorgeous sad that the game is not optimize on many low end devices
unreal engine man... it's gorgeus but optimization wise it's hell
There are some tips on yt
Mine is first lower the fps, turn off fsr, lower the brightness to 0, then off the motion blurring and camera shaking. There might be more but try out these first ig
im glad i didnt return after not having a 5star for a month or 2weeks after it first launch. it was a terrible experience + after i comeback just to see how the game is (during Miko first banner) i get my Returning Gift and it was 2000 mora, few exp for character, 30 primos?, and mostly more & exp thingy. im putting my money where it is and that is WuWa, BA, and HSR.
Wait really? 😂. Why did they even bother. I just got my returner reward in HSR, and it gives about 700 jades for 7 days of log in.
I swear Genshin players are labrats to Hoyo. This is an experiment I swear.
@@letsrank9349i just updated my HSR right now and im promised 300 Jade after update. i dont play Genshin but i have to ask how much do you get every updates in Genshin?
I'm actually the opposite lol. Personally, wuwa just didn't do it for me. Combat is fun, but I still really like genshins elemental reaction system.
Also, I feel like wuwa's story didn't really make me care too much about the world and characters (except camellya, I'm getting her for sure)
I quit 2 years ago.
The exploration become unbearable, finding wood chest just to level up some tree with nothing on it.
Farming Reputaion for just wing skin, running errand for Katherine here and there was exhausting.
Building character got delayed again and again cause freetime schedule didn't align with the domain.
Hyping myselft for new character only to get Qiqi'ed was peak.
So i quit and just watch the story from cc, but it lack any impact so i stop.
I come back for a couple of days when Navia released just trying to get her, opening all those portal, scavenged every primo available, swam around to find her mat, exp leyline, boss mat, tallent book and unending relic domain really drown all my interest/Hope for her and GI.
I get so many artifacts with crit chance, crit damage, atk % and it the stats I want never get boosted.
This kills my will to continue.
I think letting you use unleved echo as exp can be ok. since you need tunner to unlock sub stats anyway, so since you can farm echo infinely, you cant farm tunner infinetly
Wuthering waves is my first gacha game, I’m addicted. I haven’t been addicted to a game since I’ve been a adult, like 5 years
My grips for WuWa is the optimization especially for Mobile since here in Asia if you cant run a game on mobile you kinda killed your main source of players sure you can fill it in with PC but realistically you broke the golden rule in Asia if its not easy to run on a phone/Wood pc or F2P since the spending habits here is a goldmine for developers.
P.S This is going to be a reactionary kind of war on what they gonna add to the game moving forward.
i came to genshin after playing FGO and Onmyoji, first i like the concept of open world, feel a little bit hopefully for it, and then it's kinda fine but it still has some things to fix, then after 3.5 years, they fix nothings so i quit
-Worst stories ever, they use archon and 5 star characters quest to hype the characters they want to promote and not care about the previous story line, make them look unconnected, cringe, and sometimes dump (like how the sage of sumeru get trick by alhaitham plan while they are kidnap a archon and plan to make a god? how focalor plans to destroy the throne of hyrdro and hope neuvillette will save fontainian-the creatures that make by his lost powers, by the previous hyrdo archon who missuse that power to create fontainian). While world quests are on the next level, have deep stories and messages about the teyvat world, where you really explored the open world with many stories to develop.
-Terrible stories leading, ton of npc talking nonsense, things not related to the stories, making the stories part became exhausted
-Poorly experiences improvals, it took them 3 year to make the daily explore tasks have "do again" button to have stimulate artifact, 3,5 year for more 40 resin limit. While genshin is a late 2020 released game. Almost four years and they havent make "artifacts sets" yet? common, the deadgame i play since 2016 have those things right after 1year
-The character design is mid or low in some cases, boring male with skeleton model (except lately wriothesley) adult female with tight or those see through fabrics, and cut the clothes to show more skin which not necessary making the design look cheap af.
-Cut scenes and gacha animation is worst, seen many gacha games but no game have poor gacha animation like genshin, like when you get 5star character, a splash art pop up and done, seriously? i play from day1 and after 3 years they havent update anything about that?
-lack of content when reach endgame state, no matter how little you play, after 3,5 years like me there nothing left to play
-Gameplay is ... yeah like spam EQ or add some clicks then the monsters lay down and dead.
-How they treat their players: they rather hide behind the media, making drama for the community to argue than making real game content, put most effort on marketing > social media content such as leaks, characters shipdom, sad-cringe back stories for mindless characters....> enhance the story, less npc yapping in quest, new daily quest
-Yeah and the newest opera house mode: they cut the abyss reset form 2 to 1 a month then add the new opera house mode. They afraid that players will have TOO MUCH gems but when they did that, newbies and midbies who dont have many character and build them at leat level 70 will lost 200-400 gems compared to the old one, i dont know what to said, like common you really scared that players will have 600 more gems for a month? they new single abyss do really give more than 220 gems than old single abyss but they have double abyss which gave 1200 a month which is really need for midbie, the new oprea mode requires 12 characters for 3 specific elements every month, im old bie so that ok, but others? no, they barely pass 12 abyss and they lose half to new mode for oldbie :)))) 6/8 friend of mine cant pass the new mode because they barely have enough characters for 2 teams in abyss.
And further more, characters in GI have lore showing much more than Wuwa, like, jumping mountains, and shaping lands, even a character like Bennett has a cinematic that showed him jumping 15 ft in the air, destroying a truckload of ice
While in Wuwa, their power in lore are much less
But could you guess which one stay true to their lore?
31:00 now genshin has long-term encounter point, just converting your resin to condensed resin will grant you daily reward. no need to do 4 daily quests
I was a day 1 player, and quit after 2 years right at the end of inazuma arc. There was just nothing... I pulled for new characters and thats it.
I accidentally uninstalled Genshin when I uninstalled ZZZ. I didn't know it would take it out with it. Now, I don't feel like redownloading the game anymore because aside from the fact that it's a huge file to download, the fact that I don't feel happy with the game anymore makes me don't wanna download it anymore.
Hoyoverse doesnt want to self-compete with their other games. They want you to invest your $3000 and then see all the new shiney features in their new game and then move on to invest in the new game.
If you understand this going in and accept it for what it is, its a pleasant experience especially for younger players. My kids are playing genshin and loving it.
This is literally it
That is a positive way of looking at it, but from the outside looking in.
It looks like Hoyoverse makes a game, milks your money and attention, then just makes a new game instead of improving an already drained game and playerbase.
@@letsrank9349 why should hoyoverse be locked into supporting genshin forever? We want businesses to be innovative with new products, not supporting archaic ones forever. I understand this is a spectrum and concepts such as planned obsolescence are unfriendly for consumers. I also don't think you can completely pin irresponsibility of consumers onto corporations. Consumers have autonomy and should use good judgement concerning digital purchases.
@@letsrank9349 let's find out when zenless comes out of HSR will suffer.
What GI players aren’t understanding is criticism and financial pressure (literally skip paying them for 2-3 months they WILL panic) will force competition and innovation. Monopolies and arrogance in companies hurt consumers. Comparing it or highlighting their lack of player consideration doesn’t hurt GI playerbase but rather puts Hoyoverse on notice and more likely than not makes YOUR EXPERIENCE better. Shilling for corporate greed doesn’t help you…
I would go back to genshin if they made constelation to be "TOGGLEABLE"
Lmao Hex guessing on overload was too funny 😂😂
WuWa characters simply does not skip cardio and leg days, that’s why stamina doesn’t drain when running and resonators lives after a high fall. 😂😂
Man... Festering Desire... A weapon name held true. I feel sorry for anyone who is playing GI that doesn't have this weapon. Such a solid weapon. Glad WuWa is so much better in almost all aspects!
I'm going to be honest. I played wuwa and it's definetly cool. It just ain't no genshin. I like the lighter designs of genshin more personally. I just don't like how they tried to negatively impact wuwa's release.
My favorite games are still genshin and star rail. I really love the story and the art of both games.
18:59 the cute before the rage lmao
I have festering desire, still gon quit tho xD
I quitted and I had that And cinnabar spindle. Left during furina banner just to get her and try her out. (Genshin ad while I'm typing this!😂🤣🤣)
Just got back to Genshin today and damn, the exploration is now a pain after experiencing WuWa. The unskippable mundane quests are also a huge waste of time even the fucking daily quests.
Pretty sure no one will be able to play Genshin impact again after playing Wuthering waves. Because it's got so much outdated compared to WuWa it's insane. Can't wait to see what they gonna add or fix in the game after 1.1 and 1.2 by listening to the community.
(who also typed long list of features to the questionnaire?)
funny because i returned to it especially because i also play wuwa and be it just for catching up with the story i missed and it actually made me tear up which wuwa didn´t jet but it sure has the potential also
@@definitivnichtcroire7428 sure you can always return but i was saying to actually play it 😅
Also returned for the Dain quest but was dissapointed by the fact that "main" plot didn't changed since then. Halfdan story was better.
@@Deathzone2011 also actually playing it i don´t know maybe its just how i play gachas it´s just chilling maybe in genshin i just run around chilling if i want while i play wuwa when i want more action. you might be right with the outdated point but just to me i like the different approaches to the exploration. Also as for disappointment for the quest. First i accept your viewpoint since stories are always subjective for me the new one was more emotional then the halfdan one and i mean of course the "main plot" didn´t change why would it thou it would be nice to get more so much is true
@@definitivnichtcroire7428 that's true about how different everyone plays. Yeah stories is always subjective but this time they just re used same story they did with first appearence of reversed teleport point. Nothing offensive or personal but it is what it is.
@@Deathzone2011 hm i mean it is all connected after all it always was about the loom and we got some answers and a "power showcase" of what it will eventually be cabable of. but anyway discussing that here is not the right place^^ i dunno in the end i just find the community wars and drama useless both games are good in their own way as for rewards i have a other viewpoint of that aswell after all just because genshin was succesfull we now get the yearly concerts, also i like the memorys you make in both games^^
Played Genshin back when Golden Archipelago was first introduced, finally left when Sumeru's deserts were introduced because everything just got boring and stale. Every time I logged in made me feel like I was doing an unnecessary chore
14:00
Okay but why?
Why would it be bad to have max level Echos across the board after spending every waking hour in the game?
We already have many, maaaany time and money sinks in the game.
Echo Xp is the reason I only play the game for 10-20 minutes a day instead of 2-3 hours.
This is coming from someone who exhausted EVERYTHING on the map that I can without spending or getting significantly stronger.
I can tell you aren't at that point yet because you think Tasset fields aren't also for Echo XP but only for Tuners.
You will run out of Echo XP much quicker if you roll even remotely careful.
4 runs of Tasset Field per day just isn't enough.
The new Area won't fix this issue for long either.
I think immediately going brickwall stance against "unlimited echo XP" is a bit toxic for the game's state currently.
It's literally only monetarily motivated to have that capped.
Characters are going to come out, new sets will come out, there is plenty enough reason to grind more echoes, way sooner than they can ever manage to fix the Echo xp drought issue.
So I have to ask again, respectfully, because you may have some insight on this that I lack.
Why would it be a problem to grind "unlimited" (Basically limited to the couple of Echoes you can catch in a day and how many friends you have that are willing to do the same, they aren't all that many, trust me) Echo XP?
Wow! I taught most people quitted after that 3 years reward fiasco. 🤭🤭🤭
The fact that genshin only listens to their Chinese players and not their global is so frustrating example the neuvillette nerf that was unnecessary to a point that when the Chinese got mad they changed it in under 23 hours!
So, in terms of using echoes to level echoes, I disagree with you there Hex. The majority of players don't have time to run around the map and kill every enemy on sight, players like teccy do, but not the rest of us. Your point here only really applies to the hard core players who make playing their second job, but even then all echoes have a limit, theres a long ass respawn time for non boss echoes and its just so insanely tedious
played it since release, got my 1st, 2nd birthday cake from the mail. the third i didnt bcs i was unable to login that exact day. cause you know, i am busy. that was the reason i quit. nothing else, that is. i 100% explored every region there is that time, got almost all characters except Eula, 12 stars abyss every cycle. Just that cake is the reason. Never came back. Only HSR now cause well, its less time consuming and i can go for days without worrying abt the resin cap wasting away.
I was there when it launched the game look great it was my first gacha game. After half year i was like the game is same there nothing to do and it lately made me physically ill, i was like nope i am out delete game move on. Now i am just happy that i made right choice.
When you already experienced "perfection"
Its hard to go back to mediocrity
Ppl crying they can't get 3s echos are the ones that don't farm taset fields getting 3s there is almost guaranteed dunno the % but it happens a LOT and obviously there is were you farm xp were else??? Nowhere else drops xp girl 😂 you'll live of the dailies? Lol wtf are you on about
i have never paid genshin a dime. i have spent a little bit in wuwa. im a simple person. if i can tell a game was made thoughtfully and with passion, i will happily support them with some money. if i can tell a game is only in it for the money, i shut the door. good on kuro.