The bad battery you experienced the first day was due to the fresh install of MacOS. The Mac had to re index all of the files, so it took a lot of power. Anyway, love your content 🙂
@@tdrg_ yeah I get it but I’m on Monterey and has most of the features he mentioned would of maybe ran better on this machine. I tried Sonoma on a 2014 iMac 5k with ssd and ran terrible with 32 gb of ram, I did a fresh install of Monterey ran much better.
@@tdrg_ yeaaah but Monterey and/or Ventura runs better than Sonoma, if he wanted full compatibility but with a better overall experience he could've patch it to ventura
I have a 2013 13 inch Pro that I still use as a "leave in the classroom" laptop. It is enough for accessing PDFs or Pages documents, or showing the odd Google slides project. Mine has 8 gigs of ram and I upgraded the SSD to 512. I also ended up changing the battery as the old one started swelling. The display on this thing is just as good as the one on my M1 Air.
had one and it took me through the first couple of years of college, then I gave it to an old family member who doesn't need such a new computer and they're still using it, bought it when it was 5 years old, now it's almost 10 years old and still running youtube videos and office apps just fine
I recently just got a 2015 Macbook Air 13 inch for only $73! It’s the newest Apple computer i’ve ever owned and I practically stole it. With it having support for the most recent version of Monterey and 8 GB of ram, I’ve had an extremely nice experience so far!
Still using my MacBook Pro 13” mid-2012. i5 processor with 16GB of RAM and 512GB of storage. Laptop costed me $30, and a new battery, SSD, and RAM costed $50 all together. So I have a mint condition $80 MacBook that runs Sonoma pretty smoothly. Everything works perfectly. I bought this laptop because I already have a gaming PC I use for editing. I just wanted a laptop to bring with me to school or work to get some website related work done.
@@houssamalucad753 eBay. The cheap ones work perfectly fine. As long as you cycle them correctly like the instructions say, they should last a long time. It actually has more capacity than the original battery. Really after tax I paid around $60 for the upgrades. But still, a fully functioning laptop that’s this nice for under $100 is a steal.
The only general failure these get is the sata cable from the board to the drive. The i7 models seem to suffer from the RAM slot closest to the keyboard failing. Only seen 1 i5 model suffering this failure. If it happens, put a 16gb module in the top slot. Other than these 2 issues, they are bulletproof laptops
Same here… but I removed the cd rom and replaced it with the original 750MB Hd and then added a 1TB solid state drive. Replaced battery but it is not the best and I’m starting to have trouble after 3 years with it…. But still rocking the mid 2012 13” MacBook Pro…
Thanks for listening to the audience we asked for this and you delivered You are my inspiration as an aspiring TECH YTer and another CZcams update video would also be appreciated from you
I’m still rocking a 2015 15” MacBook Pro (upgraded to 1TB SSD) and a 2010 Mac Pro 5,1 (upgraded to dual x5690s, 64GB RAM, and an RX580). Running Monterey on both, and I couldn’t be happier. Love my older Macs!
I have the same two machines with the same specs, and yes, they're great! Got Windows to run on the Mac Pro too (thanks to advice from MacRumors Forums). I'm thinking of upgrading its wi-fi card next.
really appreciate the topics you cover and the overall tone of your videos! Great pacing and just the right level of "techiness" for me. Glad your channel is so successful
I still run an i7 2013 with 16GB of RAM for basic work tasks, and it was too slow for me. I wiped it for a coworker, installed Sonoma, and go figure, it works better than it ever did on Catalina.
@@lukemiani It was very true in the past. A long time ago I had a Macintosh Classic and System 7.5 was really too demanding and I went back to System 7.
I thought that would be easy, but then I realize I always complaining about my 32GB ram MacBook for no reason 😂 not done watching video yet, but it looks fun already.
it must either my morning brain or my English cause I can't understand single reference you people talk about here 😂 the hell you mean refrigerator? who's hadron collision? 😩
on a high sierra 2010 MBP 2.4gh Core 2 Duo upgraded with 16GB with 2TB and swapped CD caddy to a1TB drive giving a total 3TB SSD storage . I really like the superb build quiality and OS of this old machine especially mutiple desktops and it has some great software built in and it works just fine for what I need it to do. Thanks to Luke Miani and youtube I know how replace every part of the machine and keep it going which is truly awesome and empowering thanks luke :) having said that I will also be very soon using apple sillicon machine as well as this one so thanks for all the great content luke.😊
I recently bought an SSD for my 13” 2011 MBP and used Open Core Legacy Patcher to put Big Sur on it. It took a while to get everything installed, but once it was done I was off to the races. A surprisingly usable (but a little slow) experience. It’s perfectly fine!
Using OpenCore, I put Big Sur on a 2011 21 inch IMac maxed out at 16G of ram. I too am very happy with that for everyday browsing and word processing. That said, I initially tried to push my luck and put Ventura on it, and that was NOT a good experience.
Sounds like it would be OK for a super low cost. Just so you're patient and not doing anything too complex. Writing a novel, working some spreadsheets, watching a video, web browsing, some light photo editing.
Had the same battery issue on my 2017 13" MBP with 500+ cycles. You have to go to battery settings and disable the option that says it won't use full battery capacity.
2008 Mac Pro + Mojave: Aperture, PS, web, CZcams, email, iTunes, legacy VFX, 2015 13" MacBook Pro + Ventura: web, PS, CZcams, VSCode for React development 2021 14" M1 MacBook Pro + Sonoma: VFX, VSCode for React/React Native development So the speaker on my 2015 MBP went bad, went thru 2 used sets from eBay with no luck, until I bought new ones from Amazon, along with fresh pads for the feet and it's running solid! Also bought a replacement battery because it says Service Recommended, but not" Soon" or "Immediately." Still haven't swapped in the new battery yet as the current one seems totally fine.
I used that exact machine during the pandemic, and it was actually great then, especially coming from a 2010 Mac mini. Now I'm using an M1 MacBook Air and a decently-specced 2019 iMac, both of which are good!
I’m amazed how usable old Macs are. My first Mac was a 2011 iMac. Upgraded to SSD and 16GB RAM a few years ago. I still use it for basic office tasks. Dailies are M1 MacBook Air and M2 MacBook Air 15. Both stunning machines - best Apple have ever made, bang for buck. Typing this on a 2017 MacBook 12 inch. Yes, I know, but I’ve always wanted one - they look SO cool, and saw one cheap recently. Have three old 17 inch unibodies - one from each year. The 2011 is fried (graphics) but the other two work. Slow, but kinda love the mad big display. Couple of other old favourites: a 2009 polycarbonate in mint condition. Fun for CZcams, office work, but runs hot and the screen isn’t great. Also have a 15 inch 2012 Pro which is a bit of a classic now: love it. Some others: an 11 inch Air, and various older 13 inch pros and Airs. I’ve about four dead 2011 15 inch machines. That graphics card problem… For me, it’s what I’m doing. I just love using older Macs, and as a teacher I take them in for my students to use and learn MacOS on. I also fix them for friends, sort them for my family, and give them away sometimes. Older PCs just aren’t as nice: mostly cheap, wobbly, noisy, horrible speakers and, well, I’m an Apple guy I guess. Luke, your channel has taught me most of what I know about these machines. Huge thanks!
I have a few as well, and my favorite everyday computer is my 12’ 2017 also. I bought it for $165 then used open core to update it to Sonoma. I have the newer ones, but both of my new devices will stay new since I only use them when I need the power.
I had a 2012 non-retina Macbook pro all the way from my last year of high school to 2021. This thing went through A LOT. I switched out the HDD with an SSD & 16gb of ram a year after I got it, used a sata to usb cable so I can use my data on my school's iMacs, broke one of the speaker cables on the inside in 2018, & got water damage on some of the keys in 2020. I used a bluetooth keyboard on top of it XD Then I got a 2015 retina one, but then it got stolen in the Atlanta airport last summer. I got an M1 16 in 3 months later, and I've been loving it ever since. My encoding time is so fast now, it used to take 2-6 hours to not even 30 minutes. The keyboard is a little weird getting used to, but its not nearly as bad as the 2016 ones, and I just use a mechanical one at my desk most of the time anyway. Even though the M1 is 3 years old, its a MASSIVE upgrade for me, and I totally agree with Dankpods on this being his favorite laptop ever.
Still using a 2014 MBP and a 2017 iMac. Both work great for my everyday usage. Considering a upgrade for the iMac because I'm beginning to do more editing for my vacation footage.
My base 2015 MacBook Pro runs great. Battery is a little weak but I use it at home mostly and just keep the charger connected. I will upgrade via OCLP when I need a new OS. Thanks for all of your information over the years.
I am using a 2012 Macbook Air with Catalina installed- 8gb ram Dual core I7, 2 Ghz! 500 GB storage. Use it for initial sorting of images when on location using Photo Mechanic 6. Might use the Legacy programme to upgrade to Ventura and try editing with Lightroom just to experiment, although I have just ordered a new 15" Air with 24gb and 1TB which should be a bit quicker!? Great Video Luke and admire your persistence with the week long effort.
3:54: so this is due to the resolution of the retina display and the patched installer doesnt understand and about the battery magically improving, macOS takes a few days on older systems to optimise
Love that you could create a mostly useable laptop for such a small amount of money. Need to look at that software that allows you to install up to date OS on older machines (my Mum’s Mac Mini from 2010/11 might become useable again. Interestingly I had a similar battery experience some years back on a MacBook Pro. Not long after I’d bought it the battery went to 0% for no apparent reason. Took back to Apple Store and they couldn’t find anything wrong but reinstalled everything and sent me on my way. Never had a problem with it ever again but was constantly worried about it dying at the worst possible time.
I recently got a 2010 Macbook Pro 15in for free, with an i7 and everything still works surprisingly! I upgraded it with 16gb of DDR3 RAM and an SSD and made it amazing. Open Core Legacy Patcher does do wonders and made this thing at least somewhat relevant in the current day. Typing experience is amazing in comparison to the butterfly design later on.
Recently I got a 2011 Mac Pro and a 2015 Mac Pro for pretty cheap because I never have them and just want to have hands on experience with them. After swapping out to an SSD and upgrade from 4GB to 8GB and installing High Sierra, it runs great. The batteries are both around the 70s and I don't plan to use much or take them outside so I left them alone since to replace each battery would be about $35. I would use these to install OCL just to play around with it, but I think I would get the same results where would see slowness and quick battery drains.
hi, good video Luke I have a 2010 unibody macbook 13" with core 2 duo 2.4 GHz, upgraded with 8 GB of RAM and a 128 GB SSD (no cracks on the cover :) and as white as when it was new !) the mac also runs Sonoma with OLCP, what do you think? (this is my only Mac but I have a lot of Windows ;)) Thank you for your answer
Thanks for review Luke. I Have exactly same spec 2013 4Gb, bought it in 2014 from BestBuy. I’ve tried Sonoma on it and it is very slow, put back Big Sur macOS and it is not slow no more. Maybe the way Sonoma runs requires 8GB as all supported Mac’s are 8GB or more. So I would recommend run it with Big Sur. And I have OSX Mavericks on external drive to use it just for nostalgia 😂
I am using a 15 inch Late 2013 MacBook Pro (16GB RAM), running on the latest version of Ventura with OCLP. Two days ago I ordered a 15 inch M3 MacBook Air, mainly because I started 3D modelling with Fusion 360 which is no longer supported natively and even with OCLP errors keep popping up and the fan is kicking in even with easy tasks like watching this CZcams video. Most of all I love the possibility to install a NVMe drive on these older machines.
I am still rocking a 2009 Mac pro. I have upgraded the firmware to a 2010. I also put in 24 GB of ram a 2.5" SSD in an adapter in the PCIE slot and a RX570 GPU. I also upgraded the CPU to a Xeon X5660 It is running MacOS Sonoma with OpenCore Legacy Patcher. I have it sleeping when not in use to keep power usage down.
Luke finally got to use OCLP, that's great to see! 😀 Sonoma is quite heavy though, might not be the most ideal for a dual Core CPU, especially with just 4GB of RAM.
I got a 2015 MacBook Pro 13inch a couple years ago for $150 that I upgraded to 2TB! And I regret nothing! It’s my personal hardrive for anything and everything! Thanks for all your help through the years Luke!
@@emilsecker7881 eh no need, like I said it’s my basically my personal 2 TB hard drive that’s attached to iCloud also. I’ll be keeping it for a while. The last upgradeable MacBook Pro! For my regular workload I have a m2 pro MacBook Pro. 😊
Watching this video from my 2013 13 inch Macbook Pro, with 8 gigs of ram and a Dual Core i5, and let me tell you, it's really good. The battery is a little weak, I won't lie, but it's not bad given the fact that I bought it used, with no replacements. It still runs for about 4 hours, and when I replace the battery on this thing, it should be even longer than that. The screen is still the best I have ever used on a laptop, and everything feels so good. Despite being a 10+ year old computer, it still feels so quick and fast, and I just know that I'm gonna be using this thing for a while. Great video as always, Luke!
❤ Hello Luke, well I'm still using a old MBP and I really can't complain about the performance of my "Late" 2013 MBP with 16gb ram(maxed out) and the processor is the 4th gen quad core i7 with 1TB SSD. I'm only upgraded the opening system to Big Sur because supported natively, and I love my "Vintage" MBP, also the batteries been replaced, so bottom line I won't upgrade because I still love my old one and I'm 57, also old so their is an emotional bond between us. Lol . Thanks for your videos Luke I enjoyed this one and maybe try solder up a little more ram into that MBP you're playing with in this video, lol. Thanks!😊💯👍❤ Ps, I forget mention about mine is the one with the dedicated graphics card by Nvidia beside the CPU.😊
i am still using my mid-2014 mbp that i upgraded with a faster/larger ssd and max memory of 16gb. i tried open core but just didn’t want to give up the bug-free, zippy experience and downgraded back to big sur. i triple boot windows and pop_os for the ultimate road machine. i’m not worried about damaging or losing it during travel knowing how little its value is. i just wish the screen hadn’t started to delaminate around the edge and bar in the middle. otherwise totally satisfied.
Rocking 2014 MacMini(4GB RAM + 256GB SSD) and 2015 12” MacBook (8GB +512GB) both running macOS 14.4.1 via OCLP. Not doing the heavy lifting they used to, but for basic browsing (MB12) and a media server (MM), they’re working very well. Also have my wife’s 2008 13” MBP running 14.4.1 via OCLP. Can’t handle much more than browsing, and occasional Numbers or Pages files, but still chugging along!
Do you face with overheating and thermal throttling? How was the temperatures? Does it become boiling hot? I ask these cuz I have a Mid 2014 MBP with 2.8 i5 and 8GB RAM and I use Monterey to lower temperatures. Thermal paste (arctic mx-6) is applied a day ago but the fans hit 6200 rpm meanwhile my dad's 2015 mbp with 16 gigs run really cool without a repaste. Does RAM really effect temps?
Do you use MacsFanControl? started using it a while ago on my late 2013 and the thermals are much better now, just because the fan speed starts increasing at mucht lower temps than before
@@-Jakob489- I do use Macs Fan Control but the CPU proximity increases to 70 degrees while my dad's macbook pro 2015 runs much cooler when the same programs were running. Both macs run Monterey and both have genuine Apple SSD's on them. Just mine is 8gb and dad's is 16gb
I have a 2015 13inch pro and even on Mac OS Catalina I find that it runs quite hot. Even after repeating the CPU in February. Tho it is less hot than it was pre repast.
@@techobotturkiyeprobably because of the slightly newer and more efficient CPU. It could also be that the CPU heatsink isn’t making the best possible contact with the CPU, in which case you should tighten the screws.
Luke great video I love these old MacBook videos thrown in. Renews my love for older MacBooks I daily a 2015 mbp 16ram 256gb i7 3.1 the big boy chip I believe. I love this machine does fine with everything I throw at it which is mostly 20 tabs safari, word, and pdfs for uni work. But I love this machine. I love Intel Macs so I’ll upgrade eventually to the 2019 16 or 15.4 inch mbp they’ve gotten cheaper I would love to pick up a 32 ram model so we’ll see.
Would it be faster with an older OS that it was designed for? Not rhetorical question - I’m wondering as I have some older MacBooks I still use from time to time.
Hi Luke- thanks for doing this. I think that for 95% of the people using laptops this is perfectly usable. But for you and what you do I can understand that it can't keep up. I still use a 2008 Blackbook sometimes and while it is slower than what I am used to it still gets the job done if I want to have a little fun on an older macbook.
I have a 2015 MacBook Pro 15” with a 2TB OWC SSD spilt 50/50 MAC OS & WIN 10 using boot camp. It runs like a charm in both. I paid a fair amount for it in about 2017 - but it still runs WIN 10 great which I use for work so I keep it even though I have a 13” M1 MacBook Pro that’s my “main” travel computer. (I also build Asus Mini PCs as Medical Imaging workstations I can hold in one hand - minus the monitors of course!)
These are great to upgrade to AC wifi to use as a thin client with a really fantastic built in screen. The 8gb early retinas are fine for every day media consumption and light games and emulation or for game streaming if you upgrade the wifi and use Linux or Catalina if you have to stick with babies first operating system (osx).
I have a couple of upgraded Macs that I use regularly. I have a 2011 iMac that I maxed out (Core i7 2600, 32GB DDR3, GTX 880m, 1tb SSD, 5TB HDD, Wifi 6, BluRay drive) and a 2014 11" Macbook Air Core i7, 8GB model that I upgraded the storage to 1TB. Both are running the latest version of MacOS Sonoma, and they work great. In basic tasks they really aren't any different than much more powerful machines.
My main laptop is Lenovo U330p from 2014 with i5-4200U, 8GB RAM, and 1TB 870 EVO Samsung SSD. It is a great machine, especially with a new battery for 3-6 hours of work. I am running Debian 12 on this laptop with TLP and auto-cpufreq combo for longer battery life. For basic programming, watching films and playing basic games it's more than enough.
Rocking a Late 2012 MacMini - Max Ram and 250 Storage - and Late 2013 MacBook Air - stock. Both running 10.15 Catalina. Might upgrade to some Late 2014/Early 2015 just to get up to Monterey. Might test out OpenCore Legacy on them to see.
Hey Luke! Thinking about getting a 2012 MacBook air 4g b ram, 128gb, as my secondary beater, to throw in my backpack and have something for emergencies,would also like to run windows from time to time. I have a 2012 macbook pro, but boy is that thing heavy. Could you make a review on it for a week? Both on Mac os and windows to see how it runs ?
Love all your videos, but especially the ones like this that show I'm not alone pushing the limits of old Mac hardware! That said, my wife's 2008 iMac w/6GB ram is maxed out at El Capitan. She mainly uses it for web and email, not much heavy lifting anymore, and I'm wondering if OpenCore Legacy Patcher would be worth it to bring her machine up to a more recent version of macOS so she could at least use newer versions of web browsers...? At this point she's getting locked out of more and more sites - mainly the financial ones - and it's increasingly frustrating. Any thoughts? Thanks!
@@emilsecker7881 2012 Unibody = dual-core i7, 16gb. 2016 MacBook Air, dual core i5 with 4GB soldered. It's not gonna be slow since I run a 2011 iMac fully upgraded and it's faster than a 2020 MacBook Air.
I finagled an old 2012 Macbook Pro out of the school tech office so I wouldn't have to use a Chromebook and it works great! I asked for a RAM upgrade so it has 16GB of RAM. I use it for creating theatre programs and spreadsheets, plus I check my school email and do requisitions on it. It does all of that perfectly fine. Would I buy it for myself, no...but for what I use it for, it works great!
Recently bought a late 2011 MBP and I just reinstalled High Sierra. Tried using OCLP but I don't fully trust the reliability and security. I'll just use High Sierra till I can't and then install OCLP. It has 4 GBs of RAM (upgrading to 8 very soon) and I use it just for documents, social media and CZcams. Runs great on HS, hence the nonupdating path that I took.
I have a mid-2012 13" MacBook that I bought new. Upgraded to 16GB RAM and 1TB ssd. A friend is currently using it after her MS Surface Pro decided not to charge, she has ordered a high spec MacBook Air 13" as a replacement. Once I get the MacBook back, I think I'll try out Opencore Legacy Patcher as it's currently running the last natively supported OS (Catalina?) and some apps will not now install on it.
Here, MacBook Air 11' 2015 i5 with 8go. Bought in 2016, I just changed the SSD (OWC Aura Pro X2 500go). Under Monterey, I still use this machine every day.
The battery issue is related to sleeping. If you use it straight , without allowing it to sleep, it will last the two hours. If you turn it off completely while not using it, it will also last for two hours. Maybe related to that option to use processor and network while asleep… I had the same problem with a new battery on my MacBook Pro 2015 15 after replacing the battery
I have a couple of older Macs in my arsenal including a 2015 MBP which still runs surprisingly well. Granted the current MacBooks would blow this out of the water but for general everyday tasks it’s very much useable.
Until last week, I was using a 2014 MacBook Air base model since December after moving to Mac, so I've gotten used to having 4GB of RAM on Sonoma through OCLP. It wasn't as horrid as I would have thought, though I could tell that an upgrade would be nice however it's soldered. Last week we found a motherboard from a base 2017 MacBook Air, which has 8GB of RAM, and as they're interchangeable everything just worked and my life has been so much easier with a reasonable amount!
@@emilsecker7881 Was using Sonoma through OCLP. Still am lol and it works as good as a fully supported Mac minus Memojis on this Intel iGPU (HD 6000). Only want the upgrade because of the 900p display and the fact I edit video now and need more raw horsepower.
I'm currently using mid-2012 MacBook Pro with 480GB SSD, replaced battery and 8GB Ram, running MacOS Monterey. I'll upgrade to 16GB RAM and try to run Sonoma. So far I'm impressed of how good this machine runs and it's slowly becoming my main computer.
I’m using a 2019 basemodel i7 15inch MBP, originally had 16 g of ram but I upgraded to 32 same for the storage from 256 to 512G, I got it plugged to an EGPU with a Radeon RX5700, the machine works amazingly well, it even handles some gaming (dota 2 in macOS ) ..
Patching to the latest OS tears through the battery life of older Macs. I’ve got a late 2012 MacBook Pro retina with 8 gig memory. I uninstalled open core legacy patcher and rolled it back to its original Catalina. Battery life is normal again and this battery has used less than 100 cycles. I might try Big Sur and see how it goes. Don’t use it all the time. It’s just handy to have another Mac other than the Mac Mini and I didn’t pay much for it in pristine condition.
I have a late 2015 spec MacBook Air “poor build” as you say and it works amazing still to this day. all I do is watch some anime and movies on it and it works like a charm. I’m running the most basic tasks on it and it does the job. The problem that occurs when you had a new OS into the mix it bumps up the usage in the ram. As also the ram is what carries the OS as-well my Mac uses about 30-45% of its ram just when it boots up. So it’s pretty obvious it will come with problems when you run the latest OS which it’s not suppose to be doing in the first place lol. Mine is running Mac OS high Sierra if anyone is curious
That would be useful as a netflix/youtube machine, and if it has a broken screen it would also work as a cheap home server with built in battery backup
Yeah i JUST got bought a M1 Macbook Air after I've been using a Macbook Air 2014 for the past 10 years. The speed I experienced between the 2 is unreal, but the BIGGEST difference was the battery. Just like you mentioned the 2 hour battery drainage was exactly how mine was but now I can use my M1 for days before I have to charge it.
The bad battery you experienced the first day was due to the fresh install of MacOS. The Mac had to re index all of the files, so it took a lot of power. Anyway, love your content 🙂
yeah I thought he worked at apple before, also why test it on a unsupported OS.....
@@Exploringthemagicbecause he probably can’t do some of his tasks on a macOS version from 2020, 4 years old. Compatibility issues I guess??
@@tdrg_ yeah I get it but I’m on Monterey and has most of the features he mentioned would of maybe ran better on this machine. I tried Sonoma on a 2014 iMac 5k with ssd and ran terrible with 32 gb of ram, I did a fresh install of Monterey ran much better.
@@Exploringthemagic Sonoma Is trash even on supported Macs
@@tdrg_ yeaaah but Monterey and/or Ventura runs better than Sonoma, if he wanted full compatibility but with a better overall experience he could've patch it to ventura
I have a 2013 13 inch Pro that I still use as a "leave in the classroom" laptop. It is enough for accessing PDFs or Pages documents, or showing the odd Google slides project. Mine has 8 gigs of ram and I upgraded the SSD to 512. I also ended up changing the battery as the old one started swelling. The display on this thing is just as good as the one on my M1 Air.
had one and it took me through the first couple of years of college, then I gave it to an old family member who doesn't need such a new computer and they're still using it, bought it when it was 5 years old, now it's almost 10 years old and still running youtube videos and office apps just fine
Great example of a use for these!
This is the spiritual successor to The 8 Bit Guy’s “is it obsolete” series from back in the day.
I recently just got a 2015 Macbook Air 13 inch for only $73! It’s the newest Apple computer i’ve ever owned and I practically stole it. With it having support for the most recent version of Monterey and 8 GB of ram, I’ve had an extremely nice experience so far!
Mine had a dead ssd and a dead battery. So I replaced the battery very easily. And I got a 1tb samsung 970 evo+ with an adapter to go along with it.
Dang! Those Airs last a long time, they always get continued software support since they're so frequently bought by schools!
@@lukemiani Sort of wish mine didn't come with an i7 because it's always overheating
@@corey7219 can you re-paste it?
@@RichWithTech I have gelid thermal paste from Amazon. As well as fake ptm7950 thermal pads, which didn't help at all
Still using my MacBook Pro 13” mid-2012. i5 processor with 16GB of RAM and 512GB of storage. Laptop costed me $30, and a new battery, SSD, and RAM costed $50 all together. So I have a mint condition $80 MacBook that runs Sonoma pretty smoothly. Everything works perfectly. I bought this laptop because I already have a gaming PC I use for editing. I just wanted a laptop to bring with me to school or work to get some website related work done.
Nice. Great solid machines for basic work tasks. I've had a few of these.
where did you get the battery so cheap?
@@houssamalucad753 eBay. The cheap ones work perfectly fine. As long as you cycle them correctly like the instructions say, they should last a long time. It actually has more capacity than the original battery. Really after tax I paid around $60 for the upgrades. But still, a fully functioning laptop that’s this nice for under $100 is a steal.
The only general failure these get is the sata cable from the board to the drive. The i7 models seem to suffer from the RAM slot closest to the keyboard failing. Only seen 1 i5 model suffering this failure. If it happens, put a 16gb module in the top slot. Other than these 2 issues, they are bulletproof laptops
Same here… but I removed the cd rom and replaced it with the original 750MB Hd and then added a 1TB solid state drive. Replaced battery but it is not the best and I’m starting to have trouble after 3 years with it…. But still rocking the mid 2012 13” MacBook Pro…
Thanks for listening to the audience we asked for this and you delivered
You are my inspiration as an aspiring TECH YTer and another CZcams update video would also be appreciated from you
I’m still rocking a 2015 15” MacBook Pro (upgraded to 1TB SSD) and a 2010 Mac Pro 5,1 (upgraded to dual x5690s, 64GB RAM, and an RX580). Running Monterey on both, and I couldn’t be happier. Love my older Macs!
I have the same two machines with the same specs, and yes, they're great! Got Windows to run on the Mac Pro too (thanks to advice from MacRumors Forums). I'm thinking of upgrading its wi-fi card next.
@@damianvuleta6949that’ll be unsupported later this year
Please for the love of God, don't do this! Please! Our gay lord Tim Cook wants you to use the latest and greatest non-upgradable Macbooks!
Im watching and using a 2010 MacBook Air with 2 gb ram!!!!!! and works great
OUCH what os?
There’s no way it’s working great lol you’re greatness and my greatness are two different greatness lol 😂
Bruh moment
It shouldn’t have anything newer than maverick
Watching using a 2008 Macbook with 8GB of RAM and OCLPatched Monterey and it works....ok.
Just bought a $25 2010 polycarbonate MacBook and planning to make that my next upgrade project
That's amazing! I don't recommend that you run Big Sur+ on its Core 2 Duo though, it's not exactly going to run fast.
Cool project!👍💯
i have one with 16gb ram and an ssd. Sonoma ran too slow for me and Monterey is even a little too sluggish
I can smell that laptop… they all get ‘The Smell’ this many years in
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Hey Luke, a Opencore Legacy Patcher guide step by step would be apreciated! 🙌
My wife is using a 2013 MBP Retina with 8gb & it is plugging along fine!
Time to upgrade that thing. macOS Big Sur is unsupported
really appreciate the topics you cover and the overall tone of your videos! Great pacing and just the right level of "techiness" for me. Glad your channel is so successful
I still run an i7 2013 with 16GB of RAM for basic work tasks, and it was too slow for me.
I wiped it for a coworker, installed Sonoma, and go figure, it works better than it ever did on Catalina.
Yep, a lot of folks assume that a newer OS will slow down their system, when sometimes the opposite is true!
@@lukemiani It was very true in the past. A long time ago I had a Macintosh Classic and System 7.5 was really too demanding and I went back to System 7.
I thought that would be easy, but then I realize I always complaining about my 32GB ram MacBook for no reason 😂 not done watching video yet, but it looks fun already.
Is your refrigerator running?
@@mattstone8878 no, I already caught it
@@mattstone8878😂😂😂
Bro ran out of ram while running hadron collision simulations
it must either my morning brain or my English cause I can't understand single reference you people talk about here 😂 the hell you mean refrigerator? who's hadron collision? 😩
I love the support and ease of access for OCLP. I have been using it for years now and honestly, it's SO much easier to use and anyone can do it.
Love these videos
on a high sierra 2010 MBP 2.4gh Core 2 Duo upgraded with 16GB with 2TB and swapped CD caddy to a1TB drive giving a total 3TB SSD storage .
I really like the superb build quiality and OS of this old machine especially mutiple desktops and it has some great software built in and it works just fine for what I need it to do.
Thanks to Luke Miani and youtube I know how replace every part of the machine and keep it going which is truly awesome and empowering thanks luke :)
having said that I will also be very soon using apple sillicon machine as well as this one so thanks for all the great content luke.😊
Time to upgrade. Should’ve done it in 2017
Open core Legacy patcher was such a godsend. Also the battery prob just needed a few cycles to get conditioned to working again.
I recently bought an SSD for my 13” 2011 MBP and used Open Core Legacy Patcher to put Big Sur on it. It took a while to get everything installed, but once it was done I was off to the races. A surprisingly usable (but a little slow) experience. It’s perfectly fine!
Using OpenCore, I put Big Sur on a 2011 21 inch IMac maxed out at 16G of ram. I too am very happy with that for everyday browsing and word processing. That said, I initially tried to push my luck and put Ventura on it, and that was NOT a good experience.
Time to upgrade that date garbage
@@emilsecker7881why did you comment this on multiple comments
@@CollynPlayz because I can. They’re crap outdated machines
@@emilsecker7881 they are perfect for word processing and the web.
Mid-2013 MacBook Air - 1.7GHz i7 - 8GB - 1TB OWC SSD - MacOS Sonoma via OCLP. Works great!
Sounds like it would be OK for a super low cost. Just so you're patient and not doing anything too complex. Writing a novel, working some spreadsheets, watching a video, web browsing, some light photo editing.
Had the same battery issue on my 2017 13" MBP with 500+ cycles. You have to go to battery settings and disable the option that says it won't use full battery capacity.
What option
@@TiagoSProducions Probably optimized charging
When I was using an old Intel MacBook, I turned on reduce transparency and that saved a bit of resources from being allocated to the glass effects.
2008 Mac Pro + Mojave: Aperture, PS, web, CZcams, email, iTunes, legacy VFX,
2015 13" MacBook Pro + Ventura: web, PS, CZcams, VSCode for React development
2021 14" M1 MacBook Pro + Sonoma: VFX, VSCode for React/React Native development
So the speaker on my 2015 MBP went bad, went thru 2 used sets from eBay with no luck, until I bought new ones from Amazon, along with fresh pads for the feet and it's running solid! Also bought a replacement battery because it says Service Recommended, but not" Soon" or "Immediately." Still haven't swapped in the new battery yet as the current one seems totally fine.
Been rocking a Late '13 Retina 15" with the 2.6 GHz i7 and 16GB RAM for a while now. It's a great machine and the screen is impeccable.
Mid 2012 MacBook Pro I’ve been working on. Upgraded the ram and changed hd to ssd. Going to install open core legacy patcher.
Don’t tell me you’re using that outdated garbage on the daily basis
I used that exact machine during the pandemic, and it was actually great then, especially coming from a 2010 Mac mini. Now I'm using an M1 MacBook Air and a decently-specced 2019 iMac, both of which are good!
I’m amazed how usable old Macs are.
My first Mac was a 2011 iMac. Upgraded to SSD and 16GB RAM a few years ago. I still use it for basic office tasks.
Dailies are M1 MacBook Air and M2 MacBook Air 15. Both stunning machines - best Apple have ever made, bang for buck.
Typing this on a 2017 MacBook 12 inch. Yes, I know, but I’ve always wanted one - they look SO cool, and saw one cheap recently.
Have three old 17 inch unibodies - one from each year. The 2011 is fried (graphics) but the other two work. Slow, but kinda love the mad big display.
Couple of other old favourites: a 2009 polycarbonate in mint condition. Fun for CZcams, office work, but runs hot and the screen isn’t great. Also have a 15 inch 2012 Pro which is a bit of a classic now: love it.
Some others: an 11 inch Air, and various older 13 inch pros and Airs. I’ve about four dead 2011 15 inch machines. That graphics card problem…
For me, it’s what I’m doing. I just love using older Macs, and as a teacher I take them in for my students to use and learn MacOS on. I also fix them for friends, sort them for my family, and give them away sometimes.
Older PCs just aren’t as nice: mostly cheap, wobbly, noisy, horrible speakers and, well, I’m an Apple guy I guess. Luke, your channel has taught me most of what I know about these machines. Huge thanks!
I have a few as well, and my favorite everyday computer is my 12’ 2017 also. I bought it for $165 then used open core to update it to Sonoma. I have the newer ones, but both of my new devices will stay new since I only use them when I need the power.
Finished indexing lead to the better battery after the first day?
Luke now sporting knit polos and I'm here for it 👌
I'm rocking the 13" non touchbar macbook pro 2017 and I'm really happy with it!!
Time to upgrade that outdated garbage
Amazing experiment. Great job. I have a m1 base model MacBook Air. Still happy and not chaining anytime soon.
I had a 2012 non-retina Macbook pro all the way from my last year of high school to 2021.
This thing went through A LOT.
I switched out the HDD with an SSD & 16gb of ram a year after I got it, used a sata to usb cable so I can use my data on my school's iMacs,
broke one of the speaker cables on the inside in 2018, & got water damage on some of the keys in 2020. I used a bluetooth keyboard on top of it XD
Then I got a 2015 retina one, but then it got stolen in the Atlanta airport last summer.
I got an M1 16 in 3 months later, and I've been loving it ever since. My encoding time is so fast now, it used to take 2-6 hours to not even 30 minutes.
The keyboard is a little weird getting used to, but its not nearly as bad as the 2016 ones, and I just use a mechanical one at my desk most of the time anyway.
Even though the M1 is 3 years old, its a MASSIVE upgrade for me, and I totally agree with Dankpods on this being his favorite laptop ever.
Still using a 2014 MBP and a 2017 iMac. Both work great for my everyday usage. Considering a upgrade for the iMac because I'm beginning to do more editing for my vacation footage.
Should upgrade both. Both are unsupported
My base 2015 MacBook Pro runs great. Battery is a little weak but I use it at home mostly and just keep the charger connected. I will upgrade via OCLP when I need a new OS. Thanks for all of your information over the years.
I am using a 2012 Macbook Air with Catalina installed- 8gb ram Dual core I7, 2 Ghz! 500 GB storage. Use it for initial sorting of images when on location using Photo Mechanic 6. Might use the Legacy programme to upgrade to Ventura and try editing with Lightroom just to experiment, although I have just ordered a new 15" Air with 24gb and 1TB which should be a bit quicker!? Great Video Luke and admire your persistence with the week long effort.
3:54: so this is due to the resolution of the retina display and the patched installer doesnt understand
and about the battery magically improving, macOS takes a few days on older systems to optimise
For the macos optimisation, is it just caches that are created ?
@@Atom-- the optimisation
@@Atom-- it's the file system that needs indexing. It will take days to do in the background for older systems.
Digging the 80' slow jam music at the end.
I'm running a 2011 iMac, with 16GB RAM, 1TB SSD ... and Mavericks! (Yes, by choice). Want to hear about my experiences with it?
sure bud
Spill it your majesty
Nah
MAVERICKS?????????
Love that you could create a mostly useable laptop for such a small amount of money. Need to look at that software that allows you to install up to date OS on older machines (my Mum’s Mac Mini from 2010/11 might become useable again.
Interestingly I had a similar battery experience some years back on a MacBook Pro. Not long after I’d bought it the battery went to 0% for no apparent reason. Took back to Apple Store and they couldn’t find anything wrong but reinstalled everything and sent me on my way. Never had a problem with it ever again but was constantly worried about it dying at the worst possible time.
I recently got a 2010 Macbook Pro 15in for free, with an i7 and everything still works surprisingly! I upgraded it with 16gb of DDR3 RAM and an SSD and made it amazing. Open Core Legacy Patcher does do wonders and made this thing at least somewhat relevant in the current day. Typing experience is amazing in comparison to the butterfly design later on.
Recently I got a 2011 Mac Pro and a 2015 Mac Pro for pretty cheap because I never have them and just want to have hands on experience with them. After swapping out to an SSD and upgrade from 4GB to 8GB and installing High Sierra, it runs great.
The batteries are both around the 70s and I don't plan to use much or take them outside so I left them alone since to replace each battery would be about $35.
I would use these to install OCL just to play around with it, but I think I would get the same results where would see slowness and quick battery drains.
hi, good video Luke
I have a 2010 unibody macbook 13" with core 2 duo 2.4 GHz, upgraded with 8 GB of RAM and a 128 GB SSD (no cracks on the cover :) and as white as when it was new !)
the mac also runs Sonoma with OLCP, what do you think? (this is my only Mac but I have a lot of Windows ;))
Thank you for your answer
Thanks for review Luke. I Have exactly same spec 2013 4Gb, bought it in 2014 from BestBuy. I’ve tried Sonoma on it and it is very slow, put back Big Sur macOS and it is not slow no more. Maybe the way Sonoma runs requires 8GB as all supported Mac’s are 8GB or more. So I would recommend run it with Big Sur. And I have OSX Mavericks on external drive to use it just for nostalgia 😂
I am using a 15 inch Late 2013 MacBook Pro (16GB RAM), running on the latest version of Ventura with OCLP. Two days ago I ordered a 15 inch M3 MacBook Air, mainly because I started 3D modelling with Fusion 360 which is no longer supported natively and even with OCLP errors keep popping up and the fan is kicking in even with easy tasks like watching this CZcams video. Most of all I love the possibility to install a NVMe drive on these older machines.
I am still rocking a 2009 Mac pro. I have upgraded the firmware to a 2010. I also put in 24 GB of ram a 2.5" SSD in an adapter in the PCIE slot and a RX570 GPU. I also upgraded the CPU to a Xeon X5660 It is running MacOS Sonoma with OpenCore Legacy Patcher. I have it sleeping when not in use to keep power usage down.
Wow, fantastic type of content!
Was the ram easy to replace on these machines?
I've got an old Power G4 that still works great! Ofc I don't use it every day but its nice to have
Luke finally got to use OCLP, that's great to see! 😀
Sonoma is quite heavy though, might not be the most ideal for a dual Core CPU, especially with just 4GB of RAM.
not the first time he used OCLP, he also tried Ventura with OCLP in another video!!!
@@Inconn24 Dosdude installed it, not him
I got a 2015 MacBook Pro 13inch a couple years ago for $150 that I upgraded to 2TB! And I regret nothing! It’s my personal hardrive for anything and everything! Thanks for all your help through the years Luke!
Time to upgrade that thing. It’ll be unsupported later this year
@@emilsecker7881 eh no need, like I said it’s my basically my personal 2 TB hard drive that’s attached to iCloud also. I’ll be keeping it for a while. The last upgradeable MacBook Pro!
For my regular workload I have a m2 pro MacBook Pro. 😊
Great video! Updating to unsupported systems does slow these older machines down to an unusable state.
Watching this video from my 2013 13 inch Macbook Pro, with 8 gigs of ram and a Dual Core i5, and let me tell you, it's really good. The battery is a little weak, I won't lie, but it's not bad given the fact that I bought it used, with no replacements. It still runs for about 4 hours, and when I replace the battery on this thing, it should be even longer than that. The screen is still the best I have ever used on a laptop, and everything feels so good. Despite being a 10+ year old computer, it still feels so quick and fast, and I just know that I'm gonna be using this thing for a while. Great video as always, Luke!
Time to upgrade that thing
❤ Hello Luke, well I'm still using a old MBP and I really can't complain about the performance of my "Late" 2013 MBP with 16gb ram(maxed out) and the processor is the 4th gen quad core i7 with 1TB SSD. I'm only upgraded the opening system to Big Sur because supported natively, and I love my "Vintage" MBP, also the batteries been replaced, so bottom line I won't upgrade because I still love my old one and I'm 57, also old so their is an emotional bond between us. Lol . Thanks for your videos Luke I enjoyed this one and maybe try solder up a little more ram into that MBP you're playing with in this video, lol. Thanks!😊💯👍❤ Ps, I forget mention about mine is the one with the dedicated graphics card by Nvidia beside the CPU.😊
i am still using my mid-2014 mbp that i upgraded with a faster/larger ssd and max memory of 16gb. i tried open core but just didn’t want to give up the bug-free, zippy experience and downgraded back to big sur. i triple boot windows and pop_os for the ultimate road machine. i’m not worried about damaging or losing it during travel knowing how little its value is. i just wish the screen hadn’t started to delaminate around the edge and bar in the middle. otherwise totally satisfied.
I love these videos. thanks!
Rocking 2014 MacMini(4GB RAM + 256GB SSD) and 2015 12” MacBook (8GB +512GB) both running macOS 14.4.1 via OCLP. Not doing the heavy lifting they used to, but for basic browsing (MB12) and a media server (MM), they’re working very well. Also have my wife’s 2008 13” MBP running 14.4.1 via OCLP. Can’t handle much more than browsing, and occasional Numbers or Pages files, but still chugging along!
Do you face with overheating and thermal throttling? How was the temperatures? Does it become boiling hot? I ask these cuz I have a Mid 2014 MBP with 2.8 i5 and 8GB RAM and I use Monterey to lower temperatures. Thermal paste (arctic mx-6) is applied a day ago but the fans hit 6200 rpm meanwhile my dad's 2015 mbp with 16 gigs run really cool without a repaste. Does RAM really effect temps?
Do you use MacsFanControl? started using it a while ago on my late 2013 and the thermals are much better now, just because the fan speed starts increasing at mucht lower temps than before
@@-Jakob489- I do use Macs Fan Control but the CPU proximity increases to 70 degrees while my dad's macbook pro 2015 runs much cooler when the same programs were running. Both macs run Monterey and both have genuine Apple SSD's on them. Just mine is 8gb and dad's is 16gb
I have a 2015 13inch pro and even on Mac OS Catalina I find that it runs quite hot. Even after repeating the CPU in February. Tho it is less hot than it was pre repast.
@@techobotturkiyeprobably because of the slightly newer and more efficient CPU. It could also be that the CPU heatsink isn’t making the best possible contact with the CPU, in which case you should tighten the screws.
Luke great video I love these old MacBook videos thrown in. Renews my love for older MacBooks I daily a 2015 mbp 16ram 256gb i7 3.1 the big boy chip I believe. I love this machine does fine with everything I throw at it which is mostly 20 tabs safari, word, and pdfs for uni work. But I love this machine. I love Intel Macs so I’ll upgrade eventually to the 2019 16 or 15.4 inch mbp they’ve gotten cheaper I would love to pick up a 32 ram model so we’ll see.
Would it be faster with an older OS that it was designed for? Not rhetorical question - I’m wondering as I have some older MacBooks I still use from time to time.
Hi Luke- thanks for doing this. I think that for 95% of the people using laptops this is perfectly usable. But for you and what you do I can understand that it can't keep up. I still use a 2008 Blackbook sometimes and while it is slower than what I am used to it still gets the job done if I want to have a little fun on an older macbook.
I have a 2015 MacBook Pro 15” with a 2TB OWC SSD spilt 50/50 MAC OS & WIN 10 using boot camp. It runs like a charm in both. I paid a fair amount for it in about 2017 - but it still runs WIN 10 great which I use for work so I keep it even though I have a 13” M1 MacBook Pro that’s my “main” travel computer. (I also build Asus Mini PCs as Medical Imaging workstations I can hold in one hand - minus the monitors of course!)
These are great to upgrade to AC wifi to use as a thin client with a really fantastic built in screen. The 8gb early retinas are fine for every day media consumption and light games and emulation or for game streaming if you upgrade the wifi and use Linux or Catalina if you have to stick with babies first operating system (osx).
I have this same MBP, but with 3.1ghz i7 and with 16GB. Gonna try opencore
I have a couple of upgraded Macs that I use regularly. I have a 2011 iMac that I maxed out (Core i7 2600, 32GB DDR3, GTX 880m, 1tb SSD, 5TB HDD, Wifi 6, BluRay drive) and a 2014 11" Macbook Air Core i7, 8GB model that I upgraded the storage to 1TB. Both are running the latest version of MacOS Sonoma, and they work great. In basic tasks they really aren't any different than much more powerful machines.
My main laptop is Lenovo U330p from 2014 with i5-4200U, 8GB RAM, and 1TB 870 EVO Samsung SSD. It is a great machine, especially with a new battery for 3-6 hours of work. I am running Debian 12 on this laptop with TLP and auto-cpufreq combo for longer battery life. For basic programming, watching films and playing basic games it's more than enough.
Love your videos!
Hi Luke, can you make a video of 2024 the best value laptop to buy, really wanna see your opinion on it, thanks for always making a great video:)
M1 MacBook Air
Rocking a Late 2012 MacMini - Max Ram and 250 Storage - and Late 2013 MacBook Air - stock.
Both running 10.15 Catalina.
Might upgrade to some Late 2014/Early 2015 just to get up to Monterey.
Might test out OpenCore Legacy on them to see.
Hey Luke! Thinking about getting a 2012 MacBook air 4g b ram, 128gb, as my secondary beater, to throw in my backpack and have something for emergencies,would also like to run windows from time to time. I have a 2012 macbook pro, but boy is that thing heavy. Could you make a review on it for a week? Both on Mac os and windows to see how it runs ?
Love all your videos, but especially the ones like this that show I'm not alone pushing the limits of old Mac hardware! That said, my wife's 2008 iMac w/6GB ram is maxed out at El Capitan. She mainly uses it for web and email, not much heavy lifting anymore, and I'm wondering if OpenCore Legacy Patcher would be worth it to bring her machine up to a more recent version of macOS so she could at least use newer versions of web browsers...? At this point she's getting locked out of more and more sites - mainly the financial ones - and it's increasingly frustrating. Any thoughts? Thanks!
Finished upgrading and restoring my 2012 unibody. Running Sonoma perfectly 🤩
Still it’ll be really slow and has dated specs. Time to upgrade that thing
@@emilsecker7881 2012 Unibody = dual-core i7, 16gb. 2016 MacBook Air, dual core i5 with 4GB soldered. It's not gonna be slow since I run a 2011 iMac fully upgraded and it's faster than a 2020 MacBook Air.
@@emilsecker7881 no always the answer, not everyone could afford to, the mid 2012 is also the last user upgradeable macbook when it comes ro RAM.
I have a few MacBook Air 11" that have i5/4GB RAM and they run fine! I never run the latest OS on older Macs
Im still rocking my 2020 M1 MacBook Pro and this thing still super fast as the day I got it
MacBook pro 15" (mid-2012) Intel i7, 16GB RAM, 1TB SSD with the "high-res" antiglare 1680x1050 display running Sonoma on OCLP. A awesome machine 👊
I finagled an old 2012 Macbook Pro out of the school tech office so I wouldn't have to use a Chromebook and it works great! I asked for a RAM upgrade so it has 16GB of RAM. I use it for creating theatre programs and spreadsheets, plus I check my school email and do requisitions on it. It does all of that perfectly fine. Would I buy it for myself, no...but for what I use it for, it works great!
Watching this on my macbook air i7 A1466, for my necessities it still works great
And yet it’s unsupported. Time to upgrade
Hey Luke! Should I update my M1 MBA from macOS Monterey to Sonoma? Thanks!
I have a 2014 MacBook Air with 4 gigs of RAM and I am loving it
Time to upgrade that thing. macOS Big Sur has been unsupported for a while
I'm using a base model air m1 for uni and its still working fine
Recently bought a late 2011 MBP and I just reinstalled High Sierra. Tried using OCLP but I don't fully trust the reliability and security. I'll just use High Sierra till I can't and then install OCLP.
It has 4 GBs of RAM (upgrading to 8 very soon) and I use it just for documents, social media and CZcams. Runs great on HS, hence the nonupdating path that I took.
I have a mid-2012 13" MacBook that I bought new. Upgraded to 16GB RAM and 1TB ssd. A friend is currently using it after her MS Surface Pro decided not to charge, she has ordered a high spec MacBook Air 13" as a replacement. Once I get the MacBook back, I think I'll try out Opencore Legacy Patcher as it's currently running the last natively supported OS (Catalina?) and some apps will not now install on it.
I'm using a more resent Macbook from 2019. A 16-inch, intel i9, 32GB. It works great. Using it for webdesign, photoshop and a bit of video editng
Here, MacBook Air 11' 2015 i5 with 8go.
Bought in 2016, I just changed the SSD (OWC Aura Pro X2 500go). Under Monterey, I still use this machine every day.
Time to upgrade that thing
hey luke you can get these tiny usb-c to magcharge 2 adaptors, ive been using them for years on my 2014 retina works great
Please do the next video on upgrading the ram and using that for a week 🔥
2015 MacBook Pro 17 inch, and loving it!
whats are the specs on it and what did you pay for it?
The battery issue is related to sleeping. If you use it straight , without allowing it to sleep, it will last the two hours. If you turn it off completely while not using it, it will also last for two hours. Maybe related to that option to use processor and network while asleep…
I had the same problem with a new battery on my MacBook Pro 2015 15 after replacing the battery
I have a couple of older Macs in my arsenal including a 2015 MBP which still runs surprisingly well. Granted the current MacBooks would blow this out of the water but for general everyday tasks it’s very much useable.
Until last week, I was using a 2014 MacBook Air base model since December after moving to Mac, so I've gotten used to having 4GB of RAM on Sonoma through OCLP. It wasn't as horrid as I would have thought, though I could tell that an upgrade would be nice however it's soldered. Last week we found a motherboard from a base 2017 MacBook Air, which has 8GB of RAM, and as they're interchangeable everything just worked and my life has been so much easier with a reasonable amount!
Time to upgrade. Monterey will be unsupported later this year
@@emilsecker7881 Was using Sonoma through OCLP. Still am lol and it works as good as a fully supported Mac minus Memojis on this Intel iGPU (HD 6000). Only want the upgrade because of the 900p display and the fact I edit video now and need more raw horsepower.
@@emilsecker7881 mentioned I was running Sonoma through OCLP, it's as if it's a supported model.
I'm currently using mid-2012 MacBook Pro with 480GB SSD, replaced battery and 8GB Ram, running MacOS Monterey. I'll upgrade to 16GB RAM and try to run Sonoma. So far I'm impressed of how good this machine runs and it's slowly becoming my main computer.
Just upgrade machine. That thing is crap
@@emilsecker7881 no it's not, it performs super well even today
I’m using a 2019 basemodel i7 15inch MBP, originally had 16 g of ram but I upgraded to 32 same for the storage from 256 to 512G, I got it plugged to an EGPU with a Radeon RX5700, the machine works amazingly well, it even handles some gaming (dota 2 in macOS ) ..
Patching to the latest OS tears through the battery life of older Macs. I’ve got a late 2012 MacBook Pro retina with 8 gig memory. I uninstalled open core legacy patcher and rolled it back to its original Catalina. Battery life is normal again and this battery has used less than 100 cycles. I might try Big Sur and see how it goes. Don’t use it all the time. It’s just handy to have another Mac other than the Mac Mini and I didn’t pay much for it in pristine condition.
I have a late 2015 spec MacBook Air “poor build” as you say and it works amazing still to this day. all I do is watch some anime and movies on it and it works like a charm. I’m running the most basic tasks on it and it does the job.
The problem that occurs when you had a new OS into the mix it bumps up the usage in the ram. As also the ram is what carries the OS as-well my Mac uses about 30-45% of its ram just when it boots up. So it’s pretty obvious it will come with problems when you run the latest OS which it’s not suppose to be doing in the first place lol. Mine is running Mac OS high Sierra if anyone is curious
watching this on my old uni laptop
2012 macbook air with an i7 ivy bridge and 8gb, still supported with bootcamp windows
That would be useful as a netflix/youtube machine, and if it has a broken screen it would also work as a cheap home server with built in battery backup
I have a 2013 air with 8gb of ram and it got a 40 on Cinebench. 40!!!
Perfectly usable for browsing but the 8gb vs 4 makes ton of difference.
Each day I do more and more with my base M1 Mac mini, I find my self more and more impressed with memory management in MacOS. But 4GB? Madman!
Yeah i JUST got bought a M1 Macbook Air after I've been using a Macbook Air 2014 for the past 10 years. The speed I experienced between the 2 is unreal, but the BIGGEST difference was the battery. Just like you mentioned the 2 hour battery drainage was exactly how mine was but now I can use my M1 for days before I have to charge it.
just got a old 2015 retina 13 inch from a good friend of mine. For windows machine would you all recommend running windows 11?