This Groupset Is Out Pricing SRAM and SHIMANO And It Is UNREAL
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- čas přidán 8. 02. 2024
- ⭐️L-TWOO GRT Groupset: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DFp...
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This L-TWOO Groupset was purchased with my own money as a test to see if you can spend less and get more. Only time will tell with this groupset. If you are as excited to try something different like I am you can pick up your L-TWOO group set here.
⭐L-TWOO GRT Groupset: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DFp3Ql3
This is the step above the X10:
⭐Marin Gestalt XR: jenson.sjv.io/5g3P5D
I think this is the best upgrade I’ve seen you do! Brakes are crucial and these hydraulic brakes are a game changer for safety and control. Can’t wait to see how this holds up long term
I LOVE this build. EXACTLY what I wanna do sometime now that I have my mountain bike. we have freaking endless fire roads with some amazing views out here in seattle
The worry for me is that some of these products you buy through Aliexpress appear to be doing their product development as they get customer feedback with issues. I’m never sure if they are the finished article or if they are using customers to do their “road” and durability testing.
because of crazy prices, china is going to take over the market. creedy firms as trek and specialized are going to take a hit. greetings from belgium
Yeah I hear ya on that. In 5 years we might start to see some of these Chinese brands on popular brand bikes. Only time will tell.
I am a bit confused. In the beginning you mentioned you bought a complete set for a 1x 12 swap. Then you said you paid $330 for what turned out to be a “box of parts” which came with an 11crank /chainring that is not usable. But it also didn’t come with a cassette, 12s chain, or shifting housing? And you didn’t mention a new bottom bracket. Yeah, I’m not so sure this was all that great of a deal!
The brifters, rd, and brake calipers came in the kit. I already had a crankset on the bike I was planning on using but the chainring did work. So I switched back to the stock crankset that originally came with the bike. I used the same BB that came with the bike. I fortunately had a 12 speed cassette in my parts inventory saving me about $60 and then I had shift cable housing saving me about $10.
It is still a lot cheaper to go the LTWOO route even needing to pick up a few small parts than what I was looking at with an equivalent GRX or SRAM Rival setup.
I've got the 11-speed version of this (GR9) on my Soma Fog Cutter. Fantastic upgrade from the Sensah SRX Pro with JuinTech brakes I'd started with. As a 20-year Campagnolo loyalist, I was super excited to see the Campag-inspired shifting logic, and the ability to go multiple gears in either direction. Fantastic value, and I sing its praises to anyone who'll listen.
I've got this groupset too and for me this campag style shifting is not suitable. The downshift trigger is in an awkward position from the hoods. Also, the possibility to downshift more than one gear with single stroke is unnecessary - I find myself over downshifting very often and I need to focus on pressing the trigger gently to shift only one gear. IDK, these are my first campag style shifters and I haven't ridden them a lot so far so maybe it's just a matter of getting used to them, but being a shimano user for years, I find their road shifter the most ergonomic, intuitive and easy to operate.
It definitely looks nice. I have heard there are issues with the rear der breaking. The B-Spring can snap. I know they have updated the design of the parts over the last 2 years. I do know, that the electronic version is nothing but a headache.
Not exactly right. It was with the prototype eGR groupset which Luke from TraceVelo has been testing. The b-tension washer notch that engages against the derailleur hanger had snapped.
Great video, excellent editing.
Thank you so much.
9:15
Favorite part 😂
I got my Advent X in exchange of my Sram NX/GX 12 speed groupset, downgrade it is but to be honest i really don’t feel it is. Shifting is smooth and quite reliable. Ive been using it in our local trails. Paid for it on sale at CRC for $70 includes shifter, cassette and rd.
I will never understand why Microshift will never make hydraulic breifters. Mech discs are good for isolated situations where you are in the middle of nowhere, but hydraulic failing is pretty rare for >99% of cases and braking performance is critical for commuting.
Have you explored cable actuated hydraulic brakes? Try it. You might like it.
@@jameswilson2815 that's pretty much next best thing after full hydraulic. But considering these Chinese brands like L-Twoo are pumping out affordable brifter full hydro, I find it ironic Microshift doesn't despite them having headstart. But I might consider hydro calipers with compressionless housing too.
@@drill_fiend1097 I know what you mean. We'll have to wait and see. As bike guys it might be a win, win for us. Till then, happy trails and stay safe. Aloha. 😎🤙
If Microshift added a 11 and spd group set I would try one in a heart beat.
Nice. What bleed kit did you use?
Two things a shimano bleed cup and a EZMTB kit. amzn.to/3OEoUnT
I'm pretty sure that the ltwoo Rx 2x12 speed in aluminum is going on my new gravel build. Maybe changing the rear derailleur to the grt version, so I get the clutch. The price is a big deal. Sadly there is still problems with their electronic groups
I am really hoping the new electric gravel groupset coming out has less problems than the road version does.
@@RunBikeMike i wouldn't count on it. They sent out groupset in alpha version and then correct the errors as they get aware of them. Wheeltop has sent out a electronic road groupset but it also got problems.
@@wufler28true that, they rush to push an unfinished product to the market and from the earnings they fund the future designs and/or improvements. Not so honest, but at least we who buy this stuff are trailblazing the path for a serious competitor that will drive the prices down eventually.
Oh, and by the way, ltwoo's customer service sucks if you run into issues.
@@qwertyazerty2137 that's not good to hear about their service :( at least it's fairly easy to get spareparts for the mechanical groupset, if something goes wrong
Interesting take. Nice upgrade if it last a while.
Fingers crossed. If I have issues I will post another video. And if I don’t I will post an update this fall.
I do miss the days when most parts fit the same and you only paid extra for name bling or lightening or performance etc...now you almost have to know what is compatible and what isn't... thanks for sharing your experience with this stuff.... I'm not riding my bikes just yet. Still in the process of making sure other bills are paid...blah blah blah. 😅🤣😂
Knowing that big brands cost big money for a full drivetrain.
And knowing that you got this on Ali Express which is less than big money.
I’ll guess $650. I hope I didn’t ruin the game.
gotta be hydraulic brakes!
Sensah hrd electronic is what I am after
why should they be worried? because those are cheap?
I tried L-twoo bike components for a year, on my MTB and Rbike. They shift good and are very cheap BUT THEY FAIL EASILY. When I say "I tried them" it means, I played around with them almost to crucial testing. If there's anything good with their "group sets" it's their MTB shifters because those are compatible with SRAM and Shimano. Roadbike brifters are crap...internal components are made of plastic...Derailleur cages rust like crazy. Derailleur spring are soft and they bounce a lot on rough road. so NO - Shimano or SRAM will never be worried.
From my research they are very active in improving their products. This is the 1st product I have used from LTWOO and I am trying it out to see if it is any good. Only time will tell. I have no worries on the RD cage rusting on the is GRT setup because it is carbon. And as for the bouncing I should be fine since this RD has a clutch. Fingers cross.
I know they make lower end stuff and I am finding that is what a lot of viewers have experience with. Since this is there higher end stuff hopefully it will be better than the experience you have had.
I do think companies grow and learn over the years. So hopefully they have changed some of the flaws you found when you used them.
I have their AX 11 speed mtb groupset. It was dirt cheap but the low price didn't come from nowhere - after half a year of riding and less than 1000 km in flat woodlands the clamp bolt of the shifter snapped. I can't remember if I used a torque wrench on it but for sure I haven't over tightened it. Then, the b tension washer that locks against the Derailleur hanger fell of when I unmounted the derailleur because it held in place by a spring retainng ring that is likely to pop out every now and then, but it's easy to put it back in. I don't know why the couldn't just copy shimano design of a washer that latches onto the groove of the main mounting bolt. Other than that the groupset works decently.
I hate this horrible shift down button position.
I would take sensah and kombine that with shimano read derailleur
I have the GR9 groupset which shifters are identical. Indeed, on the hoods the downshift trigger is completely unergonomic and in awkward position. You have to twist your hand to reach it and you have to move your fingers away from underneath because the sit right under the trigger and obstruct its downward travel. On the other hand in the drops, the trigger is perfect, right where you'd look for it with the thumb.
Paid advert. The reason Shimano and sram work the best, most shops stock replacement parts and have a long standing ecosystem . This groupset is far from ready
Fully agree. I've had two gr9 groupsets and I am disappointed by the multitude of design shortcomings.
I purchased this set with my own money. I want to see if they will last over the season or if it is too good to be true.
Paid advert statement... someone's scared of this groupset..Who could it be?
@@qwertyazerty2137 Hydraulic or mechanical braking version? The Hydraulic version has a totally different shift mechanism, including placement of the release lever.
@@hankamania hydraulic version. I also have ltwoo's R5 mechanical shifters and these have much more ergonomic downshift triggers which are placed more towards the front and are easy to reach with the thumb while on the hoods. On the other hand, they are unreachable from the drops.
Waste of time, swap meet group set!