Magic bud, i must try that Flight Control myself. Very clever, great job !!! And once again thank you for all your help and for your patience with me :)
Excellent results and I will be making some 00 and 000 Flight Control Shells this afternoon . Your Template for marking the winglets is the best part of the video and I will be doing it. as soon as I close You Tube Thanks And BYE!
I am not a reloader. Today I received my 1st case of of fed flight control shells. I am looking forward to testing them out. I think a maverick 88 cylinder bore will give me a good 30 yard pattern. I have a 26 inch barrel with a modified choke. I am sure it will reach out out and extra 10 yards.
I plan on doing a video with all gauges using #4 buck just to have a total shoot out of which one patterns that size best. I’m betting it’ll be my 32 gauge stevens.
Unlike years past, It's been a good year for 16 gauge. Looks like Claybuster has came out with a new unslit wad that they call the striker that is similar to this one. I picked up a bag from ballisticproducts to try and am going to make a template from an old hull like you did here to try to loosely mimick the flite control wad "wings". It's long been one of the best patterning wad for longer range shots. Which would be good for hunting most anything in my woods. Squirrels at the top of those old growth oaks. Turkey that get hung up and don't want to come on in to you. Should make a decent hunting load for sure. Now if I can just work up a load using remington and federal hulls will be great since there is no load data for them yet. There is some data for cheddite, but I don't have any of them.
They’re all straight wall except for the Remington game loads, those are smaller internal capacity and diameter. They’re also shorter along with Winchester game loads. You can use the same data for every 16 gauge 2 3/4” hull except for those 2. The striker wad is a re-release of the PT1680 or the VP80.
@@theshotgunscientists So, is the federal and cheddite both straight wall and interchange with the same load data? I was thinking that I could maybe put a nitro card underneath of the striker wad in the remington to where it wouldn't matter anymore. Or, am I way off?
@@utubegeneric Yes you can load them interchangeably. The Remington black game load hull has smaller internal diameter I don’t think a striker was would even fit, if it did it would be tight. The green Remington sp hull can be loaded like a federal.
Thank you. I’ve got so many loads for the 16 gauge it would take weeks to record and upload them all. Over time I’ll get to them. I try to innovate new loads for gauges that don’t get as much attention. I’m working on an absolutely insane 10 gauge 0 buck extended range load as well as a conventional one. I’ve got a good 0000 buck load too. Video will probably be done in the next few days.
Thats some darn good performance you created... can you put a title or a name on that load combo? My favorite is the 16 ga, was weened on that with a Fox Sterlingworth my grandfather got for five dollars back in the 1930's.I sold an old Remington sportsman that l had backbored and that shot a tite group of #4 shot at 40 yards that would look like it was fired at half that distance. The load you show here must stop a coyote in his tracks! Keep these videos coming! always, farmer john
Good shit brother, gonna be trying the same process with 12 ga. But a wad with a gas seal similar to fs12 on the back and come with lines on the wad to cut to your liking, my thought is the more forward the weight is might make it fly better although yours seemed to fly very straight.
The 12 gauge tps white lightning wad has a longer gas seal than the csd wads do, and you could cut the petals a little higher up the wad if you wanted. Add a 1/4” fiber cushion in the wad and it should make a great load similar to this.
I am planning on trying a 20 gauge load using a TPS wad with a felt wad in the bottom and using the lines and vent holes as reference points to get an accurate repeatable cut for the rear petals. Would you be interested in trying and testing this combo with a couple different shot sizes and buffer to create a turkey load?
I really appreciate you liking this tonight! I forgot got all about this video a year ago! I’ve ordered and received from BPs more uncut wads then I’ll probably ever load during my life time because i live in upstate NY that’s awesome because i can load all my own shot gun and rifle I need for my life time now! I only shoot a few hundred rounds a year for waterfowl. Never needing to buy ammo from the man again is a freeing feeling! Anyways, I’m not sure if I’ll have the patience to do three hundred flight control wads but I’m going to give it a shot lol. I’ll make my jig out of a spent hulls from last waterfowl season! 300 wads would last me for a busy season. Early goose season, duck and maybe snow goose in March. I don’t shoot more then I eat and I’m a poor wing shooter 😂. I’m excited about your flight control wad technique just awesome brother! Keep up the lords work just you testing motivates and provides new techniques like this flight control. I pattern all mine at 50 yards so hopefully it’s going to be awesome! I was still debating how I was going to cut my new wads. I’m running 1 3/8 for a 1500 to 1560fps running blue dot 🔵. I’ll back off power always to improve pattern density! I will be shooting TSS18 and I have T shot lol crazy, 6#, and 9# this year! I’m extremely interested in a duplex load of Tx6x9 for early goose season. Then I’ll move to 6x9 for the rest of the duck season and late goose. I ran 7-10 shot last year for duck and goose and had great success at 1 1/2oz in straight 10 shot lol. Straight 7 shot crush’s geese out to 70 yards but pattern suffers after 60 yards due to only having 270 pellets and I was only running 1300fps because 34 grains of Steel power. I found the best pattern for steel powder with 1 1/2oz payload. 10 shot drops ducks at 60 yards but I will say you get a log of cripples at that distance but with 7x10 no cripples. Thanks for reading my rambling I’m excited about the flight control again to improve pattern density at 50 plus yards!
@@gorillamotors The Lyman 525 12 gauge slug swaged down to .670. It’s a .675 slug and can be loaded without swaging if cast using pure lead. We have a recent video on it.
Yes, I’ve used them with birdshot, buckshot, and steel shot. If you slit it 3/4 the way down with 3 slits, birdshot will hit almost like a slug at about 5 yards. If you go 4 slits 3/4 the way down, it’s got about a 5” spread at the same distance.
This is looking like true premium buckshot ammo for a 16 ga. I've stumbled across a lot of people with 16 ga guns in my area. The guns are rarely used. I do know one person aquired his as a do it all. Including his security gun. Likely before he realized how poor ammo availability was.
That really is an impressive load. I believe you are on to something serious. I'm betting it would be a great load for several different applications where #4 buck would be perfect. It's got me thinking real hard.
Dude we have a range finder lol it’s 38.3 yards to that tree from the wood pile I was standing at. If you watch our newer videos, we shoot at 41.7 yards from the chair we sit in to our patterning board. We’ve shown on camera how far it is with a range finder.
From one KY boy to another, excellent job on the homemade flite control. They flat out work.
Thanks man
Omg, please do more work with these
We can
Magic bud, i must try that Flight Control myself. Very clever, great job !!! And once again thank you for all your help and for your patience with me :)
Thanks man
Excellent results and I will be making some 00 and 000 Flight Control Shells this afternoon . Your Template for marking the winglets is the best part of the video and I will be doing it. as soon as I close You Tube Thanks And BYE!
I am not a reloader. Today I received my 1st case of of fed flight control shells. I am looking forward to testing them out. I think a maverick 88 cylinder bore will give me a good 30 yard pattern. I have a 26 inch barrel with a modified choke. I am sure it will reach out out and extra 10 yards.
You are on the right track !
It really does seem like a really good load ! I will wait and see what else you get out of it ! Take Care and Be Safe
Ingenuity at its finest that's awesome man
Thanks!
Better and BETTER
Love it. I will be trying that when I get to that stage of loading. I dont have or need uncut wads. Mostly trap stuff and waa12r.
Great video.
Need to source some suitable wads & have a buckshot session for .410, 20-ga & 10-ga. Maybe even load up some 12's too!
I plan on doing a video with all gauges using #4 buck just to have a total shoot out of which one patterns that size best. I’m betting it’ll be my 32 gauge stevens.
Great job I might have to try these on my 10 gauge tough wads
We actually just did that yesterday and it worked nearly perfect
Unlike years past, It's been a good year for 16 gauge. Looks like Claybuster has came out with a new unslit wad that they call the striker that is similar to this one. I picked up a bag from ballisticproducts to try and am going to make a template from an old hull like you did here to try to loosely mimick the flite control wad "wings". It's long been one of the best patterning wad for longer range shots. Which would be good for hunting most anything in my woods. Squirrels at the top of those old growth oaks. Turkey that get hung up and don't want to come on in to you. Should make a decent hunting load for sure. Now if I can just work up a load using remington and federal hulls will be great since there is no load data for them yet. There is some data for cheddite, but I don't have any of them.
They’re all straight wall except for the Remington game loads, those are smaller internal capacity and diameter. They’re also shorter along with Winchester game loads. You can use the same data for every 16 gauge 2 3/4” hull except for those 2. The striker wad is a re-release of the PT1680 or the VP80.
@@theshotgunscientists So, is the federal and cheddite both straight wall and interchange with the same load data? I was thinking that I could maybe put a nitro card underneath of the striker wad in the remington to where it wouldn't matter anymore. Or, am I way off?
@@utubegeneric Yes you can load them interchangeably. The Remington black game load hull has smaller internal diameter I don’t think a striker was would even fit, if it did it would be tight. The green Remington sp hull can be loaded like a federal.
Thanks from Russia. Your idea is very cool. Must work in 12g just fine.
Possibly, I just haven’t tried it.
Guess you’ll be doing alot of trimming and tracing! Nice work! Keep up the good work and keep good notes for us.
Just keep them coming buddy I like the 16ga info 👍👌
Thank you. I’ve got so many loads for the 16 gauge it would take weeks to record and upload them all. Over time I’ll get to them. I try to innovate new loads for gauges that don’t get as much attention. I’m working on an absolutely insane 10 gauge 0 buck extended range load as well as a conventional one. I’ve got a good 0000 buck load too. Video will probably be done in the next few days.
@@theshotgunscientists sweet can't wait
Thats some darn good performance you created... can you put a title or a name on that load combo? My favorite is the 16 ga, was weened on that with a Fox Sterlingworth my grandfather got for five dollars back in the 1930's.I sold an old Remington sportsman that l had backbored and that shot a tite group of #4 shot at 40 yards that would look like it was fired at half that distance. The load you show here must stop a coyote in his tracks! Keep these videos coming! always, farmer john
@@johnnyhighwoods1780 Thanks. I’ll keep them coming for sure. The 16 gauge is my favorite too.
@@theshotgunscientists were are you at
That was pretty good!
Thanks. This is an older video where I had no idea how to act normal on camera lol.
@@theshotgunscientists i made a few of those too, lol.
Good shit brother, gonna be trying the same process with 12 ga. But a wad with a gas seal similar to fs12 on the back and come with lines on the wad to cut to your liking, my thought is the more forward the weight is might make it fly better although yours seemed to fly very straight.
The 12 gauge tps white lightning wad has a longer gas seal than the csd wads do, and you could cut the petals a little higher up the wad if you wanted. Add a 1/4” fiber cushion in the wad and it should make a great load similar to this.
good job,shoots good
Thanks
That’s crazy! I’m making some now😂😂
Nice
I am planning on trying a 20 gauge load using a TPS wad with a felt wad in the bottom and using the lines and vent holes as reference points to get an accurate repeatable cut for the rear petals. Would you be interested in trying and testing this combo with a couple different shot sizes and buffer to create a turkey load?
We can try yeah
That looks great wish you teach us how to cut the flight wad perfect petals.
Cut away from the corners when following the Sharpie lines...makes for a neater job.
I really appreciate you liking this tonight! I forgot got all about this video a year ago! I’ve ordered and received from BPs more uncut wads then I’ll probably ever load during my life time because i live in upstate NY that’s awesome because i can load all my own shot gun and rifle I need for my life time now! I only shoot a few hundred rounds a year for waterfowl. Never needing to buy ammo from the man again is a freeing feeling! Anyways, I’m not sure if I’ll have the patience to do three hundred flight control wads but I’m going to give it a shot lol. I’ll make my jig out of a spent hulls from last waterfowl season! 300 wads would last me for a busy season. Early goose season, duck and maybe snow goose in March. I don’t shoot more then I eat and I’m a poor wing shooter 😂. I’m excited about your flight control wad technique just awesome brother! Keep up the lords work just you testing motivates and provides new techniques like this flight control. I pattern all mine at 50 yards so hopefully it’s going to be awesome! I was still debating how I was going to cut my new wads. I’m running 1 3/8 for a 1500 to 1560fps running blue dot 🔵. I’ll back off power always to improve pattern density! I will be shooting TSS18 and I have T shot lol crazy, 6#, and 9# this year! I’m extremely interested in a duplex load of Tx6x9 for early goose season. Then I’ll move to 6x9 for the rest of the duck season and late goose. I ran 7-10 shot last year for duck and goose and had great success at 1 1/2oz in straight 10 shot lol. Straight 7 shot crush’s geese out to 70 yards but pattern suffers after 60 yards due to only having 270 pellets and I was only running 1300fps because 34 grains of Steel power. I found the best pattern for steel powder with 1 1/2oz payload. 10 shot drops ducks at 60 yards but I will say you get a log of cripples at that distance but with 7x10 no cripples. Thanks for reading my rambling I’m excited about the flight control again to improve pattern density at 50 plus yards!
Im gonna have to try this in 12 gauge and see what happens.
It doesn’t always work
Have you tried making a f c w for duck hunting or using steel shot bb’s?
We will try it for sure
‘Scribed because of this. But I noticed you haven’t used this modified wad on any follow up vids. Do you think it’s not worth the work anymore?
I’ve got several loaded up just haven’t got around to it. Also done it with 12 gauge.
Cool
What is your favorite and best performing 12 gauge slug?
Bpi dgs slug
@@theshotgunscientists Thanks but I guess I should have more specified on one that your can pour yourself.
@@gorillamotors The Lyman 525 12 gauge slug swaged down to .670. It’s a .675 slug and can be loaded without swaging if cast using pure lead. We have a recent video on it.
Would this work with birdshot for a turkey load?
It should but doing this is hit and miss at best. Some work and some don’t.
It’s better to just use the wad normally. After more testing, this is 50/50 if it works or not.
Thanks for the quick reply!
Where do you get unprimed 16 gauge chedite hulls?
Ballistic products but they only have primed ones right now.
Dumb question, wouldn't the pattern be tighter without the cut tabs, and the shot stayed in the cup for an even greater distance before separating?
No the shot wouldn’t leave the wad it would act like a slug
Have you tried that wad without the wings?
Yes, I’ve used them with birdshot, buckshot, and steel shot. If you slit it 3/4 the way down with 3 slits, birdshot will hit almost like a slug at about 5 yards. If you go 4 slits 3/4 the way down, it’s got about a 5” spread at the same distance.
This is looking like true premium buckshot ammo for a 16 ga. I've stumbled across a lot of people with 16 ga guns in my area. The guns are rarely used. I do know one person aquired his as a do it all. Including his security gun. Likely before he realized how poor ammo availability was.
That really is an impressive load. I believe you are on to something serious. I'm betting it would be a great load for several different applications where #4 buck would be perfect. It's got me thinking real hard.
35-40 yards my ass.
Dude we have a range finder lol it’s 38.3 yards to that tree from the wood pile I was standing at. If you watch our newer videos, we shoot at 41.7 yards from the chair we sit in to our patterning board. We’ve shown on camera how far it is with a range finder.