The one when Thorburn says Higgins cant use his exstention reminded me of when we were kids and if someone didn't get picked to be in the team they would take their jacket which just happened to be the goalpost 😂👍
Yes, whether Higgins heard Thorburn or not, he should have trusted Cliff to tell the truth as a sportsman, especially as Cliff had been lending Alex his cue extension.
Only a part of the video with Rory is shown here. Originally the referee put a red ball near the green to see if there is a free ball or not. And the red didn’t touch the black. So there was no free ball there. But Rory continued to argue though everything was clear. Referee did everything correctly.
@@kurtthompson8672 no, the white must be able to strike the object ball at both extreme edges (think thinnest possible contact on the left and right sides) in this case, there was no way that the white ball would have been able to strike to thinnest hit on the left before making contact with the other ball.
Everyone in the UK, except the ref, heard him nominate the green. Understanding that referee must confirm the nomination, it's still within reason for the referee to ask others. In fact, anyone can bring attention to something and the referee can review the video and make a call that he or she did not originally see themselves
There have been complaints that refs need eyesight tests, but one here needed a hearing aid- and anyway it's common sense what Thorburn intended. Morgan did well to give Ebdon a taste of his own medicine. Robidoux's pride was hurt over O'Sullivan's much greater ability.
In Robidoux's defense, switching to the (in the case of any other players) weaker hand is unheard of, and this match was 3 months after O'Sullivan became professional. Almost nobody knew who he was really, it wouldn't surprise me if Robidoux had heard little of him. I think it's likely that most people who saw it probably thought like him that O'Sullivan was being disrespectful.
Thorburn thought Higgins was lying when saying that he (Thorburn) had not nominated the green, so would you allow an opponent to use your extension under those circumstances? That said though, I do not think Higgins was saying Thorburn did not nominate and only that he did not hear him do so.
I heard the echo of him nominating that green the other day, he said it that loud, the sound of him doing so is still traveling, how the fuck did the ref not hear it?
Ali Carter played that match in bad spirits. He was angry over the dressing room. It was pathetic. The Darren Morgan incident was long before Ebdon did that to Stephen Lee at the Crucible, so it's really unfair for this compilation to use it as an example of Ebdon's guilty behaviour.
@@allthekingshorses7178 I don't say Stephen Lee was guilty or not guilty. He said at one time he could prove his innocence and was maintaining his innocence, even having been found guilty. Makes you wonder. As for Ebdon, Lee's apparent guilt aside, I still can't stand Ebdon and his behaviour.
Ali was entitled to his opinion. His room was being used for interview purposes which affected his preparation. Ronnie let it get to him when he doesnt normally get embroiled in those kind of things. Ronnie felt it was an attack on him when Ali was having a go at World Snooker
@@JalandharShere Yes, he was. But he acted like a brat about it. Just my take. As for the room itself, it wasn't being used for interviews. O'Sullivan's stuff was still in there, because of the post-match interviews he was doing. I'm sure you've seen the officials telling the players where they've got to go as they come away from the table. It no doubt happens backstage, too. Blame the organisation, not the player.
Everyone and his dog heard cliff say green but it didn't count. Just like everyone and his dog saw Lampards shot in South Africa was over the line😀 That didn't count either.😀
well alain robidoux, mark selby and ali carter have the same issues with ronnie playing left handed and win the frame. they said ronnie is over for showing off, disrespect them. meanwhile for 100 more pro player out there is appreciating ronnie for that incredible talent he have.
He called for black......that’s why Higgins was awarded 7 points.....I was thankful for the situation as no race card was played because of the colour black
Poor old Cliff, you can clearly hear him say 'green.' Alex should have backed him up instead of lying. No wonder Thorburn decked him and then kicked him in the nuts.
@@xfosda He still said it. The auditorium is quiet - it's snooker, not football. You can hear people in the audience murmuring 'he said it!' but the referee isn't allowed to take their word for it. He trusted Alex's word and the Irishman told a fib.
I think a young Ronnie was out of order against Robidoux but against Carter, Ali should really have stood aside and let Ronnie through first and back to his seat before walking to the end of the table. I doubt it was deliberate though and he was just keen to be back at the table.
@@jasonwalls1466 There is this thing called respecting your opponent. You can play with your weaker hand if the shot requires it but not to showcase your opponent's flaws.
@@redrob6026 in order for it NOT to be a free ball Rory must be able to hit the green on the extreme edge on both sides without making contact with another ball, he can not hit the right side of the green without making contact with the black.
@@christianroberts4184 Of course he can hit both sides of the green from where the white is. Hitting the extreme left of the green he would hit the black afterwards - the green is closer to the balk cushion than the black.
1. Cliff thorburn did say (GREEN) 2. The audiance said he did. 3. The referee looked at the audiance and was convinced 4. Alex higgins said no you didn't 5. Cliff thorburn said in anger '' its fine just play''' 6. The play resumed by Cliff committing faul. Result: Not good sportsmanship from Alex and why cliff agreed so quick for what Alex said.
To be fair to Robideaux, he wasn't complaining about ROS playing some left-handed shots when left-handed shots were called for. He felt that ROS was deliberately humiliating him, swapping hands willy-nilly to show everyone how shit he, Alain Robideaux, was as a snooker player. Imagine if Federer did that on a court, served underarm (left- and right-handed alternately) and show-boated his way to the finish line... Nothing wrong with that, per se. But you can see why an opponent is going to feel humiliated. Robideaux is resentful of the fact that the better player has not been content simply to beat him but has felt the need to humiliate him too.
At the end of the day, Robideaux is nothing but a whining bitch who’s the only one that’s ever complained about Ronnie playing left handed. If he didn’t want to feel humiliated, he should have been a better player than the dog shit player he actually was.
The Ronnie vs Ali bust up was so overblown it hurts. You can clearly see that at the moment they pass each other, Ronnie moves to put his chalk away in his vest pocket. In doing so he lifted his elbow and clipped him. It was just clumsy and bad timing, no malice whatsoever.
you wait until the player has the left the table or is out of your way before you go to the table to make your shot. Ali Carter was trying to wind Ronnie up, and to be fair it worked. Bit of a dick move tho.
@@hi0u91e9 What are you talking about? You think players should be sat in their chair until the other guy has sat down? The game would take all day. You must not watch much snooker if you think any player does that, because the player is always starting to walk to the table after their opponent misses and they often pass each other. This was a non incident.
@@hi0u91e9 In this specific instance, do you think Ronnie deliberately elbowed him on the way past, or do you agree with my point that he was trying to put his chalk back into this vest pocket? Regardless of Ali's intent.
@@jakecooper5855 my impression was that Ronnie was annoyed that Ali was walking in his line and refused to give ground. In the interview afterwards, I remember Ronnie saying there was another incident earlier on in the match when Ali had brushed past him and so he was showing him he wasn’t going to be pushed around- or words to that effect.
Ronnie can be a nob at times but Ali Carter is aggro in fairness he's been involved in several flashpoints over the years. People don't like saying it I think because he's been ill but Mr Angry as Ronnie put it fits him well.
At least neither Higgins has walked out on their audience halfway through a match because they couldn't handle the fact they were losing, isn't that right Ronnie O'Sullivan....
The one when Thorburn says Higgins cant use his exstention reminded me of when we were kids and if someone didn't get picked to be in the team they would take their jacket which just happened to be the goalpost 😂👍
And also say I'm taking my ball home 🤣🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭😭
Lol Alex looks like he was coked up
And rightfully don't want to play fair, then don't use my tools . Who won that match by the way?
@@dredenny6654 im not sure mate
@@dredenny6654 alex won the match
@@adamoliver5589 cheers
Ffs.. I heard thorburn nominate green from where i am
Snooker is one of the worst corrupt games
From the future.
@@antoniosilvestro2494 no it isn’t lol
me too and I'm 300 miles away and probably 30 years late tooooo
The referee has too confirm it
I always had the feeling Peter Ebdon might have been a serial killer had he not found snooker!
Hahahaha
a very strange man Mr Ebdon
Peter is very odd
Ebdon would’ve been caught on his first murder, cos he would’ve taken 3 times longer than anyone else to kill his victim.
@@ArtistFormerlyKnownAsShitlord along with all the celebrating
Alex heard him, no doubt about it
Ronnie's face at the end of the last clip is just priceless. Talk about chewing a wasp 😂
Good. He's a bell end
I’m in 2021 and I heard Cliff nominate the green!
That first referee needs a slap everyone in the audience heard green
Cliff going for 'a breather' is one way of putting it.
9:20 Ronnie's face reminds me of Al Pacino in angry Godfather 2 mode.
Yea it's Michael Corleon v Hyman Roth
It’s a pity that Ebdon didn’t put the same effort into his speed at playing the game as he did his celebrations.
Looooooooooooooooooool
Thorburn off to tweet his disgust in the toilet
Bigger bust up opening a can of fizzy pop 😂
That last clip could easily be used as a definition of making mountains out of molehills
It must have been all the noise in the arena 😂
If higgins was any sort of sportsman he would have spoken to the ref on thorburns behalf
higgins was always up for a scrap.
Dead right.
Yes, whether Higgins heard Thorburn or not, he should have trusted Cliff to tell the truth as a sportsman, especially as Cliff had been lending Alex his cue extension.
Higgins heard alright, it's called gamesmanship! 🎸🍻🤘😎
Well he was no sportsman, however its not up to him to overule the referee, he had enough perceived problems with the refs.
Only a part of the video with Rory is shown here. Originally the referee put a red ball near the green to see if there is a free ball or not. And the red didn’t touch the black. So there was no free ball there. But Rory continued to argue though everything was clear. Referee did everything correctly.
2:22 the eighties
The green was clearly a free ball, ref doubling down on his pride
He snookered him self behind the red on his previous shot but did not show it
I though the rule was " cue ball must PASS both sides of the object ball without obstruction" ??
@@kurtthompson8672 no, the white must be able to strike the object ball at both extreme edges (think thinnest possible contact on the left and right sides) in this case, there was no way that the white ball would have been able to strike to thinnest hit on the left before making contact with the other ball.
@@OliverSG1 To me it was clearly a free ball, but I have no idea how the white would be able to strike the white ball? 😊
@@mrloop1530 oops...
No surprise Higgins didn't say anything.Peoples champion LOL
If you upset Cliff Thorburn you don't get your hands on his extension
thorburns wife upset cliff many times.... even she was barred from putting her hands on his extension!!!
I heard green 40 years later
Alex Higgins is out his box in this clip. 👃
Everyone in the UK, except the ref, heard him nominate the green. Understanding that referee must confirm the nomination, it's still within reason for the referee to ask others. In fact, anyone can bring attention to something and the referee can review the video and make a call that he or she did not originally see themselves
I wish you could have shown some Quinten Hann bustups. He was a right prat in his career.
I think Quinten was just a prat full stop, in his life and career!
2:34 snow in summer xD
Robidoux always reminded me of Oddbod Jnr out of Carry on Screaming. Played like him too.
Damn man. So true.
Cliff didnt take any shit
I clearly heard Cliff shout, "Surprise!!"
Pmsl 😂😂😂👀
Ah U're missing Hann vs Hicks, 1st round Worlds, also the fight between Hann vs King.
Yeah, Hann was no great loss to Snooker, toss pot.
Yea Quitin Hann what a dickhead he was
6.06
BEST PART
L O L
Cliff would leather that Higgins 👊
All the coke in Cliffs moustache must have filtered out his voice in a line with the referee
That’s the best laugh I’ve had today. Thanks.
There have been complaints that refs need eyesight tests, but one here needed a hearing aid- and anyway it's common sense what Thorburn intended. Morgan did well to give Ebdon a taste of his own medicine. Robidoux's pride was hurt over O'Sullivan's much greater ability.
In Robidoux's defense, switching to the (in the case of any other players) weaker hand is unheard of, and this match was 3 months after O'Sullivan became professional. Almost nobody knew who he was really, it wouldn't surprise me if Robidoux had heard little of him. I think it's likely that most people who saw it probably thought like him that O'Sullivan was being disrespectful.
Alex Higgins heard him say green, he just chose not to...no surprise
Yep, the despicable side of Alex, showed more as his talent deserted him, unfortunately
How is King v Hann not on this list 😂
Agree. Should be #1 of all time!!
The Ref reminds me of Mr Barraclough out of Porridge.
Chubby ronnie 🤣
Your not using my extension😂😂😂 from now on when you come round, you sit in the kitchen!
Peter sutcliffe wasnt happy with ronnie playing left handed
🤣
Don't get why tho..
It's whether he pots is the question
In my opinion, once several people said he nominated the green, Higgins should’ve given it to him.
Since when do the crowd referee? Clown
Dennis Taylor showing how clueless he is at the end of the video. Honestly a shocking piece of commentary on Carter v Ronnie
Sounded ok to me.
Makes me laugh when you get a bust up in snooker or darts
Ref in mcleod v Gilbert looks like stephen lee
He obviously had money on gilbert then not giving the free ball 😂
Alex not be bothered have a quick double v n orange
'Commonplace' is one word.
i heard him say green from mars
The referee needs to go to Hidden Hearing....
3.21 the dummy is out the pram ‘from now on you can’t use my extension’! hahaha oh dear 😂😂
Thorburn thought Higgins was lying when saying that he (Thorburn) had not nominated the green, so would you allow an opponent to use your extension under those circumstances?
That said though, I do not think Higgins was saying Thorburn did not nominate and only that he did not hear him do so.
Nominate a colour then wait for the ref to repeat the nominated colour. That's the rule
I'm sitting in 2021 and heard Thorby say "Green".
At least Ebdon learned from his early mistakes. Nothing but pure class when he beat Hendry in 02 for his WC.
when everyone meats Hendry , they cannot be but gentlmen
I’ve never liked Ebdon but he played out of this world in that final. 98% potting or something like that, incredible stuff.
Maybe Thorburn should have paused coz isn't the referee supposed to announce what colour the player has nominated ?
Good point James.
Ronnie.. I was bored 😂 this is why I love him.
I miss Ebdon going nuts.
That first referee needs a slap everyone in the audience heard green
Bad boy O'Sullivan
Low class behaviour by Higgins
Had more severe bust-ups when I was three.
Is that referee DEAF!! Thorburn definitely nominated Green FFS!!
Yes and the position of his cueing made it look obvious he was playing for green.
I heard the echo of him nominating that green the other day, he said it that loud, the sound of him doing so is still traveling, how the fuck did the ref not hear it?
I want to see Ebdon Lee match. Can someone upload
Hi john
Most honest vs most dishonest player : thorburn vs higgins
I heard him nominate green from 2021!
Ali Carter played that match in bad spirits. He was angry over the dressing room. It was pathetic.
The Darren Morgan incident was long before Ebdon did that to Stephen Lee at the Crucible, so it's really unfair for this compilation to use it as an example of Ebdon's guilty behaviour.
Well considering what Stephen Lee did to the game all I can say is well done Peter Ebdon
@@allthekingshorses7178 I don't say Stephen Lee was guilty or not guilty. He said at one time he could prove his innocence and was maintaining his innocence, even having been found guilty. Makes you wonder. As for Ebdon, Lee's apparent guilt aside, I still can't stand Ebdon and his behaviour.
Ali was entitled to his opinion. His room was being used for interview purposes which affected his preparation. Ronnie let it get to him when he doesnt normally get embroiled in those kind of things. Ronnie felt it was an attack on him when Ali was having a go at World Snooker
@@JalandharShere Yes, he was. But he acted like a brat about it. Just my take. As for the room itself, it wasn't being used for interviews. O'Sullivan's stuff was still in there, because of the post-match interviews he was doing. I'm sure you've seen the officials telling the players where they've got to go as they come away from the table. It no doubt happens backstage, too. Blame the organisation, not the player.
no it isnt , its 200% right too ebdon is a git for making unnecessary noises , thank fuck hes retired
i cant blve higgind dint have his own fekin extension ?
He did but it was full of whiskey lol
Everyone and his dog heard cliff say green but it didn't count. Just like everyone and his dog saw Lampards shot in South Africa was over the line😀 That didn't count either.😀
And the WHOLE world saw a dodgy Russian linesman give a goal at Wembley that was never across the line!
@@FoobsTon what part of Scotland are you from ?😂
What goal is that then lol ..........ooh I have no idea what you mean😀😀
well alain robidoux, mark selby and ali carter have the same issues with ronnie playing left handed and win the frame. they said ronnie is over for showing off, disrespect them. meanwhile for 100 more pro player out there is appreciating ronnie for that incredible talent he have.
Rory is right by the looks of it
McLeod has a victim mentality 👍
#justiceforthorburn let's get it trending.
Ebdon has a cheek that git was shouting come on come on
Thorburn off for a line or three
Ronnie is clearly the best ever player and he will be still play g in ten years..... If he doesn't finally disappear up his own arse
Ronnie at his best VS. Hendry at his best, Hendry wins everytime!
I heard it’s from 7000miles away
My subtitles said green as well
McLeod is a bit of a chancer I think.
I clearly heard Cliff nominate the brown...
He called for black......that’s why Higgins was awarded 7 points.....I was thankful for the situation as no race card was played because of the colour black
Snooker has come a long way, and there's still a long road ahead. Judd Trump is right about the future of the game.
Poor old Cliff, you can clearly hear him say 'green.' Alex should have backed him up instead of lying. No wonder Thorburn decked him and then kicked him in the nuts.
YOU can hear him say green because you're watching the telly and the microphone has picked it up.
@@xfosda He still said it. The auditorium is quiet - it's snooker, not football. You can hear people in the audience murmuring 'he said it!' but the referee isn't allowed to take their word for it. He trusted Alex's word and the Irishman told a fib.
Smoking and drinking whilst playing snooker. How it should be!
Burn marks 🔥 on the cloth and wet circle rings on the wood 👌
That Ronnie robideux match was 96 not 93 wasn’t it
Ronnie was eating and drinking with both hands back then.
o'sullivan v robidoux was 1996 not 1993
Blame Canada!
When did John Holmes take up snooker?
The funniest thing is, that Allister won the match. :-)
Think Ronnie has tried it 3 times on players, and never won a frame afterwards!
Yeah for once 😂😂😂😂
I think a young Ronnie was out of order against Robidoux but against Carter, Ali should really have stood aside and let Ronnie through first and back to his seat before walking to the end of the table.
I doubt it was deliberate though and he was just keen to be back at the table.
Sean Scanlon out of order?? If some can beat you left handed clearly who is a righty is shit. He amounted to nothing, case closed. Ronnie was right
@@jasonwalls1466 There is this thing called respecting your opponent. You can play with your weaker hand if the shot requires it but not to showcase your opponent's flaws.
Did rocket O look like harry potter back there during his interview regards using his left? That was a potter if i ever seen one lol gan on rocket O
Looks a coke fuelled Noel Gallagher on 97-98 days
The Rory mcloud one is a free ball 100%
I don't really get it, could you explain?
@@redrob6026 in order for it NOT to be a free ball Rory must be able to hit the green on the extreme edge on both sides without making contact with another ball, he can not hit the right side of the green without making contact with the black.
@@christianroberts4184 I see, thank you! Have watched the game for years but have never really been up on the rules 😁
@@christianroberts4184 Of course he can hit both sides of the green from where the white is. Hitting the extreme left of the green he would hit the black afterwards - the green is closer to the balk cushion than the black.
7.05. O’Sullivan / Robidoux was 1996, not 1993.
1. Cliff thorburn did say (GREEN)
2. The audiance said he did.
3. The referee looked at the audiance and was convinced
4. Alex higgins said no you didn't
5. Cliff thorburn said in anger '' its fine just play'''
6. The play resumed by Cliff committing faul.
Result: Not good sportsmanship from Alex and why cliff agreed so quick for what Alex said.
Some people say snooker is boring.... and they're absolutely right. zzzzzzzzz
To be fair to Robideaux, he wasn't complaining about ROS playing some left-handed shots when left-handed shots were called for. He felt that ROS was deliberately humiliating him, swapping hands willy-nilly to show everyone how shit he, Alain Robideaux, was as a snooker player. Imagine if Federer did that on a court, served underarm (left- and right-handed alternately) and show-boated his way to the finish line... Nothing wrong with that, per se. But you can see why an opponent is going to feel humiliated. Robideaux is resentful of the fact that the better player has not been content simply to beat him but has felt the need to humiliate him too.
At the end of the day, Robideaux is nothing but a whining bitch who’s the only one that’s ever complained about Ronnie playing left handed. If he didn’t want to feel humiliated, he should have been a better player than the dog shit player he actually was.
Remember when you played football and the loser went home and took his ball ,that's cliff😂
It was childish but Higgins was a scumbag.
The Ronnie vs Ali bust up was so overblown it hurts. You can clearly see that at the moment they pass each other, Ronnie moves to put his chalk away in his vest pocket. In doing so he lifted his elbow and clipped him. It was just clumsy and bad timing, no malice whatsoever.
you wait until the player has the left the table or is out of your way before you go to the table to make your shot. Ali Carter was trying to wind Ronnie up, and to be fair it worked. Bit of a dick move tho.
@@hi0u91e9 What are you talking about? You think players should be sat in their chair until the other guy has sat down? The game would take all day. You must not watch much snooker if you think any player does that, because the player is always starting to walk to the table after their opponent misses and they often pass each other. This was a non incident.
@@jakecooper5855 it depends where you’re sat. If you have to squeeze past someone to get to the table, you’re trying to piss them off.
@@hi0u91e9 In this specific instance, do you think Ronnie deliberately elbowed him on the way past, or do you agree with my point that he was trying to put his chalk back into this vest pocket? Regardless of Ali's intent.
@@jakecooper5855 my impression was that Ronnie was annoyed that Ali was walking in his line and refused to give ground. In the interview afterwards, I remember Ronnie saying there was another incident earlier on in the match when Ali had brushed past him and so he was showing him he wasn’t going to be pushed around- or words to that effect.
Even I heard Cliff Thorburn nominate the green but the ref didn't hear it. Very weird.
Like everyone saw the HAND OF GOD but the referee didn't ! LOL
The Irish ref? No that ain’t weird at all...
@@Doctorgoatboy Whats that about the Irish?
@@johnmc3862 He's implying they are no good cheats.
You heard it, Stephen, because a tv microphone picked it up. The referee wasn't watching the match on tv.
😆😂🤣 O’Sullivan thinking he’s the hard man......of snooker. Like saying you’re the best looking person.......in the burns unit.
Ronnie can be a nob at times but Ali Carter is aggro in fairness he's been involved in several flashpoints over the years. People don't like saying it I think because he's been ill but Mr Angry as Ronnie put it fits him well.
The only prize Ronnie should win is 'Biggest knobhead in snooker'
why didnt the ref just go to the monitor and listen back ? did he have 20 quid on higgins lol
Seems anyone with the surname of Higgins is corrupt 😂
At least neither Higgins has walked out on their audience halfway through a match because they couldn't handle the fact they were losing, isn't that right Ronnie O'Sullivan....
Mmm .... know what you mean Chris. And agree.
Ronnie O’Sullivan looks like Neo’s lesser-known brother - who can also enter the Matrix