Understanding suicide | Ajahn Brahm | 06-02-2015
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- Ajahn Brahm discusses the sometimes taboo topic of suicide, sharing a compassionate Buddhist perspective on how to understand suicide, and skillful ways of reflecting upon suicidal thoughts.
I'm an African American living in the USA. I grow up in church in the Christian faith. When I first learned about Buddhism it just makes so much sense. It's just so powerful when you learn for yourself with no other influences.. My life is changing because of people like Ajahn Brahm. I just wanted to say thanks...
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Angry Black Man That's the beauty of Buddhism, it only asks you to listen, learn and most importantly, do (the practice). It doesn't demand belief to access some greater community or even an afterlife, it doesn't threaten you with hell or lead you on with the hope of infinite bliss, it just gives you the chance to walk a truly wholesome, compassionate and worthwhile path. I hope you're still listening to these talks 2 years later. They're very rewarding.
Great to hear x
Yes it will be difficult being black the world. But what can you learn from it is the buddhas teaching. You have to learn from your bad karma.
@@user-gj4hn1hl2q lol bring black is not difficult lol
It doesn't matter how you die. It matters how you lived and your state of consciousness at the moment of death.
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oh my.... poor jude prisoners in concentration camps 1939-1945. Personally i have a problem with concept of "last thoughts before death" even terminal cancer patients with brainbreaking pain.
@@radekjirasek1296nobody remembers or thinks about the jew. The jew is not important wordwide
This was another fine talk by our beloved Ajahn, So. To Ajahn Brahm, to everybody who was listening, to everybody who was not listening, and not in the least to the people asking a question from Syria and America : Love and respect, much love and respect. May all sentient beings be truly happy.
Being honest, how many people have never thought of suicide? Hearing Ajahn Brahm perspective is so helpful and very appropriate in the current world situation, Sadhu, sadhu, sadhu
Ajahn Brahm, I'm 44 I have had depression before I had ever heard of depression or new what it was. I can remember being in the first grade and being out on recess, I would play all recess long, jumping rope, swinging, playing tetherball, I would put my jacket on the ground up against the school building and stand on my head, but I felt horrible I couldn't understand why I felt so badly. I didn't understand why I felt so horrible even when I was playing, I kept going on like that for a while, then I heard the word hopeless and I thought that is how I feel, completely hopeless! Then I eventually heard of depression and what it is and I realized that I had that, I had all the symptoms. And I still do now, I've been in "treatment " for 16 years. But now I mostly do stuff on my own to try to help myself. I've been a Christian since I was a little girl I figure Jesus isn't taking this burden off of me for some reason. Several years ago I started on a daily basis spending time every day praying and being in thought with all the people in the world that are suffering, people that don't have food, living in war zone's, sick people, anyone that is suffering. I felt that this was what God wanted me to do, and I'm still doing it. I'm writing this comment because you said people just need to be around other people and they won't get depressed, or that depressed people just keep thinking about negative experiences and that's why they are depressed. Maybe that is true for some, but it is not true for me and a lot of other people I know. I am almost always around other people, and keeping myself busy, and I'm a positive person despite the way I feel. A lot of times it is really hard work. Having depression I have learned what is really important in life, it has opened my eyes to so many different things, good things. Well, I guess that's all I have to say.
You said depression has opened your eyes. Do you fear becoming unattached to the depression? Do you identify with your mind or with the being that observes the mind?
You need to meditate. Seriously. Spend some time alone, and truly learn to meditate. I have the same problem like you. Everything is so grey. Even when I was a little kid having vacation with my parents and my sibling, going to beautiful places, it was all grey to me. Please meditate, it does help. Hope you are well. :)
Thank you Ajahn Brahm, you saved my life the first time I heard your talks a few years ago. I am now on the Dharma path and genuinely happy. Thank you, thank you thank you! Sadhu, Saaaadhuu, SADHU!!! hahaha =]
May all beings be happy and have the causes of happiness,
May all beings be free from suffering and the causes of suffering!
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Thanks for sharing. As always, enlightening. Just wanted to add thoughts that some viewers may not have considered. Suicide is so stigmatized that the majority ask "Why." Part of compassion is see the other persons POV. To them it is not why, but "why not." When a person is unable to find meaning or purpose to their existence, suicide can often be seen as a way to "re-boot." Also, suicide is not always about depression, but sometimes about lack of of positive options. Loss of freedom, medical issues, weariness of conflict can all contribute to individuals seeing suicide as an option. While I agree that its not always the best option, for some who can only see as a horse with blinders, it may seem their best option. With our hearts we care, with compassion we can heal.
Thank you for saying this. Wanting to end your life is not always about depression. Sometimes things are really bad and there is genuinely no way to escape (medical issues, caregiving etc.).
Thankq Ajahn Brahm. I love your light touch. My niece recently took her own life. The fall out from such an act is enormous. It is a huge mistake. It certainly highlights the fact that we're all connected because when someone steps out of life they take a piece of you with them and I don't know how you get it back. It's not a lesson I wanted to learn and life seems so surreal now. There's been so much destruction in the family I'm sick of it. I thought we were finally over the worst and now this. I had really begun to experience joy through my meditations and then my world came crashing down. I must admit that through the surreal experience of grief where you feel not in this world or the next, is that joy in small things becomes so much more poignant like a father pointing out the green man at the road crossing or parents just taking their children across the road, or the patience of a mother with her very upset child who desperately wants something from the supermarket. I've been in a very dark place myself but I never got to the point of planning it and acting on it. The greatest advice my Mum gave me when I told her I was depressed was to get my mind off myself and think about others - hence voluntary work or just reaching out. But in all honesty the greatest joy for me would to see my niece again and to find out she was still alive and well and doing her thing in the world.
I love these talks I learn so much from the topics and your humor is the best... not are you kind, considerate, and very thoughtful but you are compassionate...all of the things I admire most in this world! Thank You for sharing not only yours, but others wisdom with me.
Can I just give him a little hug...
Thank you to the person at the end from the USA. Thank you Ajahm Brahm.
What a great talk! Thank you Ajahn Brahm. Sadhu
I enjoyed listening to Ajahn Brahma. I like what he said about 'Lower Your Expectations' and Grumpy Licence.
What if someone is chronically ill, bedridden, isolated, getting sicker and no hope of getting better?
I love it. - what is the source of bad feelings? Being born 😂😁
Life sucks and reincarnation is the greatest torture ever. Why does getting out have to be so damned difficult?
If you wish for others to be happy in life show compassion, if you wish to be happy in life show compassion Dala Lama.. If you want your life to be better change your outlook... Live, love, have fun...
barry otey Thanks Barry. I don't want life to be better. I just want it over and there seems to be no practical way to end it once and for all.
why do you see life that way? Life is suffering but its only apart of it... Me personal once I realized the truth of life that it is suffering I actually enjoy it more... My focuses are more on things that are meaningful family, dharma, and really having fun enjoying this life while I'm here... It's not so bad when things don't go my way it doesn't feel like life is picking on me... I didn't always view things that way... It's just life taking it natural course... People die, my trucks break, my ankle hurts, money short, etc... It's all part of anicca... THE SUFFERING PART IS NOT WANTING THINGS TO HAPPEN THAT ARE A NATURAL PART OF US BEING HERE... It's ok as long as you learn where true happiness comes from and learn to have a true peace of mind.
Lol... Plus from a Buddhist view you could become enlightened and break away from samsara then that would end it all...
That's my point. I'm rather upset that simply getting out is so damned difficult. Simply stopping shouldn't take multiple lifetimes of constant work. It shouldn't even take years. I'm not looking for some big prize that's worth working for after all, I just want it all to stop. Seems like a simple request. Whoever had the idea to get the whole thing started is an idiot.
I'm a happy camper and would not change my life in any way. For this reason I don't believe or care about doing it again. I enjoy Brahm and his humor.
If what you say is true that you would not change anything does that mean you have uprooted greed, aversion, and delusion from your life? Do you live in such a way that those around you feel blessed to be in your presence?
I feel like I'm going to kill myself in the end and it breaks my heart because I really want to.be happy again I'm just not sure how
Spyros Socratous please don’t do that. If you are suffering remember it will pass. You deserve peace and contentment.
J C I deserve it but I don't have it I've been suffering for so long that I don't see another option I know it's sad to here people say things like what I have and your a nice person to feel for me thank you🙂 but it's more sad for people like me to suffer like this I don't want to die but I don't want to live like this anymore and if this continues I'm going to end up doing the thing I don't want to do but if I do it its knowing it was the only way to not suffer any further 😕
please consider therapy on top of your meditation practice. we are all suffering. it is not your fault to feel this way. i have felt like that before. remember the impermanence of pain. remember it passes. you matter, you were born because its your right, because you must experience life. besides all the pain you feel, guess what you can feel happiness too. give yourself a chance.
J C your rite and I'm going to try I just hate these downs I get but like you said things will get better with time 😃xo
Spyros Socratous
I understand exactly how you feel.
I know this is all in the mind but I just don’t know what to do about it, and it’s been so long like this... maybe it’s time for the next life?
No one knows what happens when we die the parts of the Buddhist teaching that talk about rebirth reincarnation or even enlightenment I'm not sure about... I dont have enough facts to say that its not truth or that it is truth... One thing I can say that is fact in my life is that the teaches are meaningful and open the mind to see how life really is
This man is so amazing :)
wow Ajahn Brahm this blow my mind. thank you! it helps me move out my a dark place I've been in this week!
lol, I love the fact that every time Ajahn Brahm tells the "Monster" story, its always a little bit different everytime. :))
Thanks very much for making this available.
Does anyone have a link to that grumpy or angry certificate?
Sadhu Sadhu SADHUUUUUUUUUU ❤️
Why can't Ajahn Brahm be shown in sharp focus? Thanks.
+Neall Calvert Oh but he can ... but it does not matter; because once he is in perfect focus, you will find other faults.
I am just kidding Neal, I just had to... ;-)
Please donate a iPhone 8 plus or Samsung Galaxy S8...then the Dharma center can capture video in 4K ultra HD... remember, the center relies on donation. the camera they are currently using is probably a few years old
I have one foot in the grave already 😅
why it is so hard to stay positive? im such a crooked tree
Judging a tree on aesthetics is futile. A tree is a tree and has inner beauty. You asked why it's so hard to stay positive but I would ask why are you attached to being positive? It's like trying to hold on to a bar of soap. Those angry granny feelings are much more jagged and easier to grasp and so we get attached to them more easily. Whereas those feelings of love and compassion are smooth like water that's harder to hold on to.
Yes, all dogmatic religions can create social stigma. Buddhism is not an exception. But it is not the Buddha, Jesus... the guilty parties but the listeners for swallowing everything Teachers, Priests...literally they say and without reflection or questioning.
but what if you are not depressed and were forced to return to life after death from surgery? What if you found out that life after death is so much more beautiful? What if you feel all jobs teachings and support is done and you want to return to the afterlife? Do I have permission to go back?
I think of it this way... This life is like looking through a telescope. you see very beautiful things through your eyes and also horrible things. when you die it's like taking your eye away from the telescope eyepiece... and entering the afterlife. Or thought of another way, life is that brief moment when a fish jumps out of the ocean, and the afterlife is returning to the ocean.
Thank you
Thankful
life only sucks if your outlook on life sucks... All things are anicca...
Thank you Ajahn, god bless you
ENVIRONMENT.If Ajahn Brahm were suddenly to find himself in Iran he would be persecuted and tortured.ENVIRONMENT makes all the difference in a persons life not mental masturbation.
Man I love Ajham Brahm! Thank you ❤️
they will say they didn't understand but when they get the news, I bet she will.
I may be wrong but when I studied Buddhism Mara was reputed to be a female. Not a major issue but worth asking if I'm wrong.
All i know is he is male and he is god.But He has many forms.
Tykkään.
I like these talks but I do not believe in re-incarnation. I feel that these constant references to re-incarnation take away credibility from the talks because I find re-incarnation rather esoteric. Ajahn Brahm is always talking about re-incarnation as a fact but is there any evidence except for a couple of people claiming to remember past lives?
I can't show you any other credible evidence that rebirth exist, but take in the simple fact of logic. It makes a lot more sense to be reborn and die again and again, then to have one shot in this vast universe and that is it. I dont know if you are a believer in ghost, but there is much credible evidence to be found that not only are they ghost in their new life but they claimed to be a documented real person in their last. Rebirth makes a lot more sense than any religion after life theories can provide you. So do good deeds and avoid bad ones it matters.
360darius Actually I do not believe in ghosts or any other super natural stuff. In the middle ages, people believed in all kinds of witchcraft and magic. I think that one of the greatest accomplishments of the human race over the past couple of hunedred years is the emphasize on science and rational thought. As long as something is not scientifically proven, I generally do not believe in it. Maybe as science advances it will be proven some time but until then I remain sceptic.
Its ok if you don't believe in re-incarnation. The fact is no body really knows. The import thing to remember I think is to not let it bother you. For me Buddhism is not about reincarnation because its about the next life. Its about making the best of what is now and make a good go at THIS life!
It's OK. Be compassionate, with all your heart, that is good enough. And what Chuck Chugumlung said was also very beautiful!
There is more evidence. You can check out the work of Ian Stevenson:
www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=ian+stevenson
Also, there's the research done on near death experiences:
www.amazon.com/Consciousness-Beyond-Life-Near-Death-Experience/dp/0061777269/ref=la_B00376XKLK_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1423575655&sr=1-1
Sadhu, sadhu, sadhu
I am a Buddhist from Burma, and i can't believe he regarded Burmese as fundamentalist Buddhists. These (bad) monks and (bad) lay people in Burma are nationalists and over protective of Buddhism. It's nothing to do with fundamentalist Buddhism. If there were fundamentalist Buddhism, it is the Middle way that Buddha taught. It will never be extremism. It is sad that Burmese Buddhists have a bad reputation. Most Burmese have been practicing vipassana (insight) meditation ,and in fact, Ajahn Brahm's teacher,Ajahn Chah, was a student of a Burmese Mahasi Sayadaw.
Thank you 🙏
Mill Creek exactly and I was a bit sadden by his comment about Sri Lankan and Burmese Buddhists too! I’m from Sri Lanka and I can assure you what you said is exactly what’s happening in Sri Lanka too.
www.thestar.com/news/canada/2015/02/06/supreme-court-rules-strikes-down-assisted-suicide-ban.html
SADHU SADHU SADHU!!!
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P.S (for your viewing pleasure):
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I hope reincarnation is a fact. I wanna come back as an attack helicopter.
F!@#Guilt 😂😂😂😂
Read the 10th chapter of Plato's Republic. The myth of Er details a choice of returning to this world as a living entity. That can be either a human or, fauna or Flora. But not inanimate objects.
I have bad news. You're only gonna come back as a skateboard, you Harley Davidson, you!
Sadhu Sadhu Sadhu... If I get ur mail I'd, that could be better..
All deaths are suicides: Discuss
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5:22 There is no point to life but procreating and providing after your offspring. Well biologically speaking.
not something to laugh about
Past life nonsense