Vortex Viper PST Gen II 3-15x44 FFP EBR-2C MRAD - First Person POV
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The Vortex Viper PST II 3-15x44 is More then enough scope for the majority of the shooters out there. It offers good resolution, good features, and great illumination (for this style of scope) all for a price that will keep most people in their budget. Dare I say, Its the best Intermediate(3-15x) scope under $1k. A Huge thank you to Patreon supporter Sparks for sending this in for review!
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Have you tested the Vortex Viper PST gen II 2-10x32 FFP?
Hello CDOES, I picked up based on your review, for 630.00 shipped. a like new = VIPER PST GEN II 3-15 FFP EBR-7C (MRAD) Please tell me did I do ok?
Not a lot of people in the firearm community will get your Rick and Morty reference. Great review. Thank you.
Haha thanks mate! Pew Pew!
Gotta get schwifty in here
Thanks for the great video. I purchased this exact model today on Optics Planet for $575! I know that the newer Ebr 7c reticle is more desirable but this model at that price was about as good as I could have achieved being a poor! So I’m excited to finally finish a proper SPR setup with this scope.
@@EQ541 nice, enjoy it!
Some concerned homeowner is gonna be like "What the....THAT'S MY HOUSE! Honey, we gotta move, some guy was pointing a scope at Billy's window!"
This is how all Scope reveiws should be!! its as close as you can get to actually being on the gun. Plus added details of how if feels along with small comparison notes. 10/10!
Damn fine review! A few things worth noting:
This is the EBR-2C reticle and the newest on the market is the 7C reticle. Nothing else changed in the scopes. The glass and turret quality is the exact same regardless of the reticle you choose.
Ryan Cleckner says in a video with John Lovell that the PST Gen 2 "catches you up to the Razor a little bit. It gets pretty darn close". I have both the 4.5-27 Razor and the 5-25 PST gen 2 and I have to agree. I'm really trying to figure out which one I want to keep on my gun. I'm bougie af, so I really want to keep the Razor that matches my suppressor that's currently getting done in Vortex Bronze. But at twice the price of the PST gen 2, it's such a hard call.
And for anyone wondering, the Strike Eagle 5-25 does not come nearly as close to the PST as the PST does to the Razor. Vortex themselves will straight up tell you that features cost money. The SE has all the bells and whistles and still costs less than the PST Gen 2. That's because of the glass quality and made in the Philippines vs made in China. The SE is still good. 34mm tube is nice, the zero stop allowing 5 clicks past zero is nice, the locking of the turrets is nice (even though they're mushy and wiggly and don't line up consistently). I have the SE on my 22lr and love it for that.
Thank you for the kind words, and thank you for all of those extremely specific details! Those will certainly help guide people browsing the market help narrow things down!
I completely agree. I also had the SE 1-6 and bought the Viper Pst Gen 2 1-6 and the SE got sold on ebay the same day because all it took was one look through the optic and it was no way I could go back to a lower level. Buy once cry once. I would love to have the razor but yikes that price tag lol.
@@PurpleMusicProductions the SE to PST jump is Huge as opposed to the PST to Razor jump.
Looks like the numbers on the right side of the reticle will interfere with the mil sighting??
Exactly the video I was looking for
I have the 2-10x32 EBR-4 on a Mk 12 clone and it's been fantastic. Very similar experience to this video
Same!
GreatVideo !
You guys should do a video together. Two of the best scope channels.
Appreciate the review
I have two PST 3-15, one SFP, and one FFP. I started with PST 1-6, and I was startled by the quality of glass and how good it is, so I saved and got it directly the 3-15 SFP from Vortex. Eurooptic had a sale on PST 3-15x FFP at $600+s/h $19.95 cheaper than Vortex cost to me. Range time tomorrow.
Since my last comment, I bought the 2-10x PST/FFP/MOA; full circle with Vortex Viper PST models.
When I grow up I want to be like Sparks and buy a ton of scopes lol. Great video. I bought the Viper Pst Gen 2 1-6 because of your video and OMG I wish I had bought two of them which still isn't out of the question.
Haha, me too friend. Me too. I keep going back to buying one for myself. Just hard to find in stock now.
@@CDOES yeah I know right! even sportingmansguide doesn't have them in stock until December.
By far, the best scope for $1000. No, its not a nightforce or a Schmidt and Bender.....but its also not $3500. Incredible value. I have 3.....
I think 3 is the appropriate number of PST's to own!
Vortex Viper PST EBR-2D FFP & parallax adjust. These can be had for $600 right now from midway USA, both MOA & MRAD. That is a wonderful deal for what you get with this optic And the Vortx lifetime no questions asked warranty.
Great video man, appreciate it!
👍 Any time!
Great information thanks
I've just purchased this Scope to place on my Tikka t3x lite stainless in 243 ...it's the most expensive Scope I've ever owned...I'm hoping it's a Great scope for my Coyote Gun
Amazing review. I have pst 5-25x50 version and it’s much better quality than Diamondback Tactical 6-24x50
Thank you! The Diamondback is Def the entry 'Tactical' scope. Just enough to get a taste.
Love your videos and have watched many of them. I like that you dial 10 mils for elevation, it you know many people have these scopes on 20MOA mounts before they dial up for distance.
I have this optic, and this review is spot on. Absolutely a perfect option for most users. I like the glass on the 3-15x over the 5-25x PST Gen 2, and I think that 15x is enough magnification where you don't lose your target during follow up shots. There's also significantly less "shaking" of the reticle at max versus the 25x.
Can you use the parallax adjustment to accurately range your targets? Meaning, when everything's in focus from the knob adjustment, you can peak over and get the range from the dial?
Thanks! And yes, the dial should be pretty close to the distance to the target. I found that this was very close. Where as the T5xi 5-25 I did was WAY off.
Good to know. I have the 5-25x on an 18" SPR and just got this to replace it. I feel like the 25 is too much scope for .223.
Awesome review. Thanks for your time bud
Next red dot should be the Holosun HS403R. I have a terrible astigmatism and it is honestly the cleanest dot I’ve ever seen.
The 510 and 512 I reviewed were excellent for me. And I too have a bad astigmatism.
It looks HEAVY! but. I must buy. $650 today brand new lifetime warranty. Slightly different reticle. Mine has numbers outside instead of inside. Wish me luck!
👌 Good price!
Great video, getting that for my dads PCP for Christmas....thanks for the great info!
Great review! I wonder if the illumination could be adding the chromatic aberration that was seen. Also, to my eye, it seems that the image has slightly better clarity at higher magnification when the illumination is not on.
Great review. Thanks
I have the 5-25x50, the 3-15x44 and the 2-10x32. All in FFP and none of them have the reticle focus issue. They do all have different resistance in the knobs, Some the parralax is harder while others it's the mag ring.
Hey I plan on buying the 3-15x44. Any regrets? Challenges?
@@kiandempsey3694 No, Not at all, my initial concern was the low high magnification of 15 but it is good for 1 inch target at 100 yards. The resolution is fantastic.
@C_DOES have you tested the Vortex Viper PST gen II 2-10x32 FFP?
Thanks dude
Please do a 5-25x strike Eagle! Love to know what you think
Great video C, I ended up buying this scope in MRAD variant after your review. Do you have any videos on how to use these busy Christmas tree reticles? Not too many videos on them out there, I guess they aren’t that popular?
All you gotta do is know your hold overs and how to compensate for wind. Once you know the ballistics of your rifle, you can take advantage of your reticle. It is quite simple
Is the bigger objective lens of the 50mm version any more clear looking through the glass?
You need to use the adjustment on the rear for focusing of your crosshairs and the side focus the whatever you're aiming at down range.
So it looks like this scope is really good out to maybe 500 years? For a 1000 yard scope we should looks elsewhere, correct?
I'm looking for a scope for my bergara, the ones I'm lookin at is this one, the shv f1 from nf, athlon midas TAC, or arken ep5, what would you say is the best package for its price? I find bad and good on all of them and I'm not experienced with longer range set ups just getting into having a nice set up and I'm at a loss with all this contradictive information on all these scopes in that range, so now I don't know at all what I should get, any help is appreciated thanks
Since nobody replied to you, here goes.
I already own many of the Athlon Midas Tacs and Ares BTR Gen 2s and Cronus BTR UHDs which were more expensive than the EP5. You can tell I was a fan of Athlon.
I recently bought 2 of the newest Arken EP5's and received them earlier December 2023 and am still honestly blown away by them. They are much clearer than the older EP5's I looked through 2 years ago and again last year and clear all the way to their maximum 25x magnification. They are on par in clarity with my Midas Tacs and Ares BTR Gen 2s and almost as clear as my Athlon Cronus BTR UHDs and Tract Toric ELR that cost more than triple the price actually close to 4 times the price.
If weight doesn't bother you then go with the EP5. I really like how huge the eyebox and sight picture is on these newest EP5's noticeably better than all of my Athlons and Tract Toric ELR.
I don't think I will be buying any more Athlons or Tract Toric ELR scopes after first hand experience with these new EP5's and EPL4's I also bought recently.
For reference I have a Vortex Razor Gen 3 6-36x56 also and these Arkens can't compete with it except I think the Arken turrets feel nicer to me but absolutely nothing else can touch them for the prices they are selling them for.
Compare the newest Arken EP5's to the Athlon Cronus and Tract Toric ELRs and you will see exactly what I mean. The newest EP5's seem to have superior glass compared to their older ones.
@commonsense5709 thanks for the reply! I actually got the ep5 Christmas last year and the same result I was completely blown away by the quality, nicest scope I had before that was a 150 dollar nikon, what a difference!
@@eddienavarro8126 Best of all if you ever need to use their lifetime warranty they even send you a prepaid return shipping label so you aren't out of pocket to ship it to them. Just like how Vortex does but Arken's response isn't as quick.
I think I am going to buy more of their EP5's.
I believe the hype now. And I paid for all of my Arkens with my own money just like most normal customers do and wasn't sponsored or got anything for free to shill for the brand either.
I honestly regret spending so much money on all of my Athlon scopes now even on sale. The EP5's huge eyebox and turrets I really like a lot better than my Athlons. Still blown away by the clarity too.
Good day sir.
Are you planning a review of this scope in the SFP version as well?
Could you please tell me how the illumination is compared to the vortex razor hd lht 4.5-22x50? And how the low light performance is? Thank you
Don’t these have a separate reticle focus on the back of the eye piece? Dee like I’ve seen that in a video where they talk about it.
The ocular adjuster is strictly to get the reticle focused for the shooters, individual eye. You start there and work your way forward.
Is this still the best target scope under $1000? Or should I look at Riton X7 or maybe a SFP leupold?
I'd avoid Riton due to poor QC especially their Japan models. I think the Tract Toric 2.5-15x50 is the best $1000 scope in the 15x magnification range. I think the Meopta Optika6 3-18x56 with the Mrad1 reticle a close second for under $1000. He did a review on the Meopta 3-18x50 with the Mrad1 reticle but the 56mm is better. Go with the Leupold if you don't mind SFP and prefer the lighter weight.
the old EBR2c seems more clear then newest, i mean too much lines on new?
Please answer sir this or a trijicon tenmile. Was looking at lht but its too much and u need a ligter scope
Have you checked out the Tract Toric 4-20 x 50? Curious to see how it compares to the PST Gen 2 lineup.
I'd say the Tract Toric 4-20x50 is at least 2 levels above the Vortex PST 2. It's made in Japan with German Schott ED glass vs Philippines for the Vortex PST 2. The Tract Toric is also a step up compared to the Vortex Razor LHT IMHO aside from the weight and total elevation travel. I personally prefer the Tract Toric ELR 4.5-30x56 for the higher magnification while still having a low 4.5x for a wide FOV and the much greater total elevation travel in a 34mm tube.
@@commonsense5709 I have both and they are great scopes with some good and not so good points for me.
The Tract is more compact, built to last a long long time, its a bit heavier, has great turrets that lock. I really like the reticle but i personally hate that all the tree illuminates (and will never buy another scope where it does.. ZCO), much prefer just the centre or the cross (as in the PST)
The PST doesn't have locking turrets, although i've not had them move on me. It has glass that looks great to my eyes, maybe a bit behind but not that much difference to me, certainly not atleast two levels.
Most of my shooting is 150 yards and under with airguns and so field of view is important to me, and this is where the PST shines. It has a massive FOV and the difference between the two in this regard is huge and instantly noticeable. The Tract is a keeper, but i am about to buy my second PST 3-15.
EBR 2C Mrad reticle in the PST i should add, i think the 7C fully illuminates
is there a budget friend alternative to this?? i wanna mount one on my ruger pcc!
The Diamondback tactical is its baby brother. But the glass comes now where close to it.
The new Arken EPL4 4-16x44 ($380) might be worth buying. The Arken SH4 4-16x ($290) is worth buying if you don't mind the weight.
EBR-2C or EBR-2D reticle?
Ok… I was with you until you said “they’re built like tanks”. They built more like… cheap midsize sedans. Drive down a bumpy road one time and your going to need an alignment. Take a hard hit, and while it may kinda get you where you need to go, it’s going to need to have some work done. As far as feature set and Optical quality, they’re great at their price point. I put them on par with say a Burris XTR ii or iii maybe. Great for their intended use, but not an NF NXS or Trijicon Tenmile. I will say though that my scope selection criteria is based off of the earned wisdom and experience that “shit happens”, and if I’m miles from camp and my rifles takes a spill for whatever reason, I want the assurance in knowing that it is ACTUALLY built like a tank.
I dunno if its just me but if u were going to use the tree for holding wind... you canot see them at all. Im sure its better irl i was lookin at this or a tenmile
Theure $1299 from Vortex now lol
I just bought one. This time I blamed cyclops. My wife is going to find him. And kick him where it hurts.
Lol right before he turned the light on he acted like it was going to be actually daylight beight. I had to squint to see the res
That isnt real burl