[ENG CC] Spoon Civic EK9 vs. Nissan Pulsar VZ-R N1 Version II battle in Ebisu 1999

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    [ENG CC] Spoon Civic EK9 (Hattori Naoki) vs. Nissan Pulsar VZ-R N1 Version II SR16VE NEO VVL (Keiichi Tsuchiya) battle at Ebisu 1999
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  • @miroshi
    @miroshi  Před 6 lety +8

    Hondash - the ultimate tool to monitor your Honda
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  • @moustachio334
    @moustachio334 Před 3 lety +17

    Most Spoon engines actually use OEM Honda parts balanced within 0.02 grams. Spoon will have variations of the same car. Some cars have heavily modified engines and others will only have an ECU upgrade and exhaust.

  • @user-bn4gc6fj2v
    @user-bn4gc6fj2v Před 5 lety +23

    タコメーター見たらわかるけど、シビックの方が高回転域を維持してる。シビックは外品のクロスMT組んでるから強いわな

  • @conorwallis3848
    @conorwallis3848 Před 7 lety +44

    i would like to see this on a dry track track

  • @Krezo200
    @Krezo200 Před 4 lety +4

    Ah man this show is so great..

  • @power_of_r6033
    @power_of_r6033 Před 9 lety +20

    Damn its always raining when they shoot these videos, that was a hard & dangerous race

  • @torakoara1
    @torakoara1 Před 5 lety +24

    1998年のルマン24時間耐久レースで3位に入った日産R390と同じカラーリングだけはカッコいい

  • @user-vx3dq1mq5l
    @user-vx3dq1mq5l Před 5 lety +8

    パルサーはハイカムの回転域が狭いから、オプションのクロスぐらいじゃえびすの上りはきつそうですね。

  • @user-ns5hw3kl8s
    @user-ns5hw3kl8s Před 6 lety +23

    これ見てたワ
    市販のシビックRに勝つにはVZ-R N1ではシビックRに敵わず
    限定生産スペシャルモデルのバージョン2でやっとシビックRに勝てたんだけどね
    シビックもスプーンスペシャルモデルとではやっぱり敵わないパルサー
    ホンダは凄い車つくってたんだなと思った

  • @spidey0123
    @spidey0123 Před 9 lety +36

    Spoon vs. Factory Nissan... :3 Yes guys even Autech is a subsidiary tuning arm of Nissan using oem parts.

    • @NASCAR511
      @NASCAR511 Před 9 lety +6

      Vermilion Argent Yes i think this battle is more good with a factory Type R

    • @mohdshukor9642
      @mohdshukor9642 Před 9 lety +3

      factory nissan ver 2..it's mean nissan tune pulsar 2time to compete ek9 b16b..
      factory honda ek9 still version 1..honda never upgrade ek9 and b16b to ver 2..so spoon tuner just change trans, brake system and exhaust, never touch the engine..
      miroshi add another vid pulsar ver 2 200hp vs ek9 185hp..in that vid u can see what just nissan do on pulsar to ver 2..

    • @mohdshukor9642
      @mohdshukor9642 Před 9 lety +7

      when the word 'tuner' mean use oem parts??lol..

    • @DoubleCGamesStudios
      @DoubleCGamesStudios Před 8 lety +17

      +Spec-Z No, the N1 version of the VZ-R is a special tuned type made in limited numbers by Autech, and even if Autech is a subsidiary of Nissan, still is a further tuned version. So comparing that one with the Spoon version is perfectly legit. They have also the same power so is great. The Type R also can be compared but only with the VZ-R, since both are performance versions of base compact cars.

    • @NASCAR511
      @NASCAR511 Před 8 lety +1

      Oh, thanks

  • @SteliosHadjiantonis
    @SteliosHadjiantonis Před 9 lety +5

    Does anyone know what suspension the pulsar had on this video?

  • @telkor-tzm50r
    @telkor-tzm50r Před 4 lety +12

    本当にイコールかな?って気がしちゃう…
    ミッションのギヤ比だけじゃなく、ブレーキのキャリパーもスプーンのは対向だし…
    まぁそれを抜きにしても、パルサーの足回り(所詮バンちっくな前ストラット/後トーションビーム)では、トラクションのかかりが違いすぎて話にならないんだけどね💦
    現に自分もパルサーに乗ってて、サーキット走ってた時は辛かったなぁ〜
    楽しい車だったから満足してましたけどね。

  • @miroshi
    @miroshi  Před 10 lety +7

    StephanK330 1.6l

  • @channel-di1dj
    @channel-di1dj Před 4 lety +8

    これ何話かあるうちの最後かな?
    1回目はパルサーボロ負け。
    2回目はパルサー改造して勝ち。
    3回目でシビックR改造してパルサー負け。
    ってことかな。

  • @igvtec
    @igvtec Před 7 měsíci

    The best 1600 all day every day Honda!

  • @abdullaali3735
    @abdullaali3735 Před 4 lety +1

    this is not spoon engine i believe it's tuned and enhanced version only that why

  • @Gonzalez....07
    @Gonzalez....07 Před 11 měsíci

    still enjoy to watch this old video..DK's reaction when EK9 beat his pulsar..😂😂😂

  • @bjgeorge762
    @bjgeorge762 Před 10 lety +5

    Yes! Keep up the great work :)

  • @StephanK330
    @StephanK330 Před 10 lety

    does anybody know if the civic was 1.8l or 1.6l ? thx

  • @NoaLenz
    @NoaLenz Před rokem

    0:15 Steering wheels looks the same as most subaru at that time, why though is momo has no other design?

  • @gdmya
    @gdmya Před rokem +2

    What are the specs on the Spoon Civic? I can't read japanese and I don't know if that "280!!!" is 280PS/HP or what?

    • @kotobukiya11
      @kotobukiya11 Před rokem +1

      2,800,000 yen

    • @gdmya
      @gdmya Před rokem

      @@kotobukiya11 What else does the specs read?

    • @kotobukiya11
      @kotobukiya11 Před rokem +2

      The modifications are...
      Muffler
      Gear ratio
      Suspension
      Tires
      Power is almost the same (185 PS for stock)

  • @goodboy_aqee58
    @goodboy_aqee58 Před 7 lety +8

    the famous 11000 rpm spoon civic

  • @mm-bw5gq
    @mm-bw5gq Před 3 lety +3

    イコールコンディションって難しいのでしょうけど、差を平然と無視して語る違和感

  • @lordoftheriffs79
    @lordoftheriffs79 Před 4 lety +5

    "inserts surprised keanu meme":
    What if cross gear mission means close geared transmission because close and cross sound the same in Japanese?

  • @adarshkeswani2319
    @adarshkeswani2319 Před 7 lety +1

    Doesn't it say 280 bhp for the civic ???? It is NSX Territory

    • @PressurenFlames
      @PressurenFlames Před 7 lety +5

      I doubt it.. Maybe 280 mm front brake rotors? Would make more sense in this case.

    • @iwakunf6313
      @iwakunf6313 Před 7 lety +4

      Adarsh Keswani no .it's spended money for buying the car and tuning. 2800000jpy

  • @anhiirr
    @anhiirr Před 7 lety

    lmao that type r reving to 9k god damn, interesting comparison........EK has better trans/gears lmao esp on the straight....do you see any advantages between power there?????lmao

  • @warnerg80
    @warnerg80 Před 8 lety +5

    The civic was gonna win, he just wanted to see what it could do before passing it in the straight.

    • @asifnoaman8978
      @asifnoaman8978 Před 8 měsíci

      I don't think you understand how fast those pulsars are in real life

  • @MR-SR20
    @MR-SR20 Před 5 lety +9

    Vzr built using OEM parts but tuned correctly and abit lighter than version 1
    Ek built using aftermarket head parts and tuned.

    • @ariskeram5770
      @ariskeram5770 Před 5 lety +3

      Νοt to mention the box gearing of the Ek...totally custom😁. The N1 v2 was a better car in its class....Also this Civic think its 1.8 ltr...

    • @EGK20
      @EGK20 Před 5 lety +1

      well you should do more research about SR16VE N1 engine. This engine have camshaft upgraded, using 8 injectors and larger throttle body. I believe none of them are OEM

    • @ariskeram5770
      @ariskeram5770 Před 5 lety +7

      @@EGK20these parts you mention are oem and you can get them from Nissan dealers..

    • @TheBb6prelude
      @TheBb6prelude Před 5 lety

      Aris Keram yeah and the driver wasn’t even pushing hard like the drift king was.

    • @sr20dago
      @sr20dago Před 5 lety

      @@EGK20 lol SR16VE N1 came w/ bigger cams from Nissan. N1 also came w/ 8 injectors... From Nissan... Better manifold than the V1. RPM was brought to 8600. 70mm TB. 11.7 Compression Ratio. 125hp/liter... Point is a stock EK9 wouldn't have sufficed. But yes, all of us (includes Nissan owners) know that Honda has better handling. As for the motor... Please stop. You needed Spoon to come and help.

  • @sameerjura6535
    @sameerjura6535 Před 9 lety +19

    Omg I love the yellow type r. One day I will save my money. And buy one rhd yellow type r. I will pay up to 25.000 dollars for it. My dream.

    • @Szeiker
      @Szeiker Před 3 lety

      Did you buy it bro? I want a yellow eg6

    • @notstephennn
      @notstephennn Před 3 lety

      @@Szeiker i need a red civic AJ

    • @marqus23
      @marqus23 Před rokem

      We need am update its been 8 years lol

  • @adarshkeswani2319
    @adarshkeswani2319 Před 7 lety

    Is this the 11000 rpm civic ???

    • @pity_6095
      @pity_6095 Před 3 lety +1

      No

    • @gdmya
      @gdmya Před rokem

      @@pity_6095 if it isn't why would it even have the 11k RPM gauge cluster?

    • @pity_6095
      @pity_6095 Před rokem +1

      @AmemiyaGD it a cluster that spoon sells, I would imagine this car and the 11k civic were developed in the same place so they just put the cluster in, could also be for marketing

  • @ArtVandelayOfficial
    @ArtVandelayOfficial Před 6 lety

    Should be ek9 n1

  • @giannisgt28rs
    @giannisgt28rs Před 4 lety +4

    nissan power!!

  • @RB26N
    @RB26N Před 2 lety

    good suspension vs power.

  • @akumaz78
    @akumaz78 Před 9 lety +15

    should be nismo vs spoon then we can start talking.....

    • @cikciknana5237
      @cikciknana5237 Před 4 lety

      Kay Zaki Wong people so dumb

    • @pity_6095
      @pity_6095 Před 3 lety +5

      Bro u guys just don't understand
      The pulsar is already tuned from the v1 by Nissan themselves
      But honda never tuned the civic so spoon did
      Its a fair match

    • @moustachio334
      @moustachio334 Před 3 lety

      There is a video with the Pulsar vs a stock Civic Type-R in dry weather on the same track and the Civic annihilates the Pulsar.

  • @canal8895
    @canal8895 Před 3 lety +2

    Pulsar always won

  • @stratossarlanis1859
    @stratossarlanis1859 Před 6 měsíci

    Nissan prince forever

  • @burroelburro6703
    @burroelburro6703 Před 9 dny

    El neo vvl tapa roja da mucho de que hablar ...que mucho hondero nunca va aceptar... Los SR16...SR20 son los mejores motores para modificar.... Otra cosa que los hondas los modifiquen por baratos dónde quiera hay

  • @mohdshukor9642
    @mohdshukor9642 Před 9 lety +3

    ek9 used b16b engine..that 1.6neo vvt n gear ratio lose when climb uphill rather vtec n close gear ratio still kicking..

    • @TassieLorenzo
      @TassieLorenzo Před 9 lety

      Those cross-ratios are quite interesting... www.rhdjapan.com/spoon-cross-mission-gear-set-1-5.html

  • @user-hz6vv1pk1v
    @user-hz6vv1pk1v Před 5 lety +8

    パルサーが純正装着タイヤのW10でシビックが外品のネオバ。
    残念ながらこのバトルはクルマの性能以前にタイヤのグリップが違いすぎて参考にならない。このコースでW10とネオバだとドライでも軽くコンマ6くらい差がつくのにヘビーウエットじゃあパルサーかわいそう

    • @t-zir
      @t-zir Před 4 lety +2

      ウェットのネオバはスゴい滑るよ

    • @user-hz6vv1pk1v
      @user-hz6vv1pk1v Před 4 lety +7

      @@t-zir 知ってる。あとW10はもっと滑る。当時両方テストした

    • @t-zir
      @t-zir Před 3 lety +1

      @@user-hz6vv1pk1v ネオバよりウェット性能悪いタイヤって(しかもドライも悪いって)…限定車なのにねぇ

  • @stratossarlanis1859
    @stratossarlanis1859 Před 6 měsíci

    Almera killer civic

  • @iorinkoushiki0412
    @iorinkoushiki0412 Před dnem

    パルサーリアホーシングなんよなぁ

  • @user-ys1zb7hw4y
    @user-ys1zb7hw4y Před 5 lety +7

    ホンダはすごいなぁ🎵
    同じお金をかけたら、シビックは絶対速い❗

  • @ariskeram5770
    @ariskeram5770 Před 3 lety +1

    Are you kidding? Gearbox of the type r is no stock...Its a heavy tuned spoon one...vzr is just a stock ver-Ii

  • @ayske1
    @ayske1 Před 5 lety +1

    Hilarious loss

  • @adarshkeswani2319
    @adarshkeswani2319 Před 7 lety +27

    The win for the Civic nearly looked staged :(

  • @SR2.0DE
    @SR2.0DE Před 3 lety +1

    対抗ピストンのブレーキとネオバ入ったシビックには勝てねーよ

  • @ariskeram5770
    @ariskeram5770 Před 6 lety +9

    Nissan's vvl engines are better than Hondas...more torque and very reliable....Vzr's set up was more for a street use than a track as the ratios too....If nissan wanted would be too easy to win the ek9 type r versions....

    • @TheBb6prelude
      @TheBb6prelude Před 5 lety

      Aris Keram in what planet? Hondas have made 550 wheel hp allmotor. Nice try.

    • @conradsealy9603
      @conradsealy9603 Před 5 lety +2

      @@TheBb6prelude have you ever seen any 4 cylinder make almost 3000hp? Look out for the Teknotoyz S15 in 1/4 mile drag racing. You were warned.

    • @flowerliaaulia5590
      @flowerliaaulia5590 Před 5 lety

      @@conradsealy9603 that's turbo not NA. Turbo always bigger horsepower

    • @conradsealy9603
      @conradsealy9603 Před 5 lety

      @@flowerliaaulia5590 at well over 2400cc. And that engine only runs for no more than 10 seconds. Lol.

    • @shortcut7325
      @shortcut7325 Před 4 lety

      Ek 9 is for ricer just for show of the "H"😂

  • @sunilayya8948
    @sunilayya8948 Před 3 lety +1

    A Pulsar GTI R would have destroyed the shitty civic

  • @patrickS_SFT
    @patrickS_SFT Před 9 lety +1

    video shared on facebook.com/theRacingCorner ;)

  • @SymphonicClarinet
    @SymphonicClarinet Před 4 lety +9

    バトル以前に、カッコ良さでシビックの勝ち

  • @user-jm8ic7lc7i
    @user-jm8ic7lc7i Před 3 lety

    パルサーじゃねえ笑

  • @shortcut7325
    @shortcut7325 Před 4 lety +1

    Nissan acceleration is more better than honda.honda is for ricer😂

    • @cikciknana5237
      @cikciknana5237 Před 4 lety

      Bujang Senang dh la tak laju sampah lak tu, makin geli aku ngn budak nissan ni

  • @jish8080
    @jish8080 Před 3 lety

    Pulsar waste.

  • @ruygh-vt1gp
    @ruygh-vt1gp Před 8 lety +10

    シビックのギア、クロスさせ過ぎ。言うなれば、スーパークロスとでも言いましょうか。そんな感じすら受けますね。

    • @ks-hi8sc
      @ks-hi8sc Před 8 lety +5

      シフトアップしたら既に8000回転くらいですからね

    • @hide59603
      @hide59603 Před 6 lety +1

      これじゃまともに高速道路走れないよね

    • @user-vq4en3ib9s
      @user-vq4en3ib9s Před 6 lety +2

      公平にと言うなら
      ベストなのはインテRの98ミッションでしょうね!

  • @darrensmith9407
    @darrensmith9407 Před rokem +1

    Nissan 200hp vs Honda 280hp...honda must've been terrified to only agree to race if they had an 80hp advantage
    If they had both been 280hp engines, The Nissan would've lapped the honda....deep down, you know it's true ;)

    • @kotobukiya11
      @kotobukiya11 Před rokem +1

      The modifications are...
      Muffler
      Gear ratio
      Suspension
      Tires
      Power is almost the same (185 PS for stock)

  • @alstound
    @alstound Před 2 lety

    Pulsar is total garbage. A similarly tuned Levin would have been a better adversary to the Spoon.

  • @Trees_and_stuff
    @Trees_and_stuff Před 5 lety +1

    The nissan is the best 1600cc na car ever built.

    • @TheBb6prelude
      @TheBb6prelude Před 5 lety

      The Novice Seat no

    • @TheBb6prelude
      @TheBb6prelude Před 5 lety +1

      The Novice Seat not even close to the b16b

    • @Trees_and_stuff
      @Trees_and_stuff Před 5 lety +3

      @@TheBb6prelude So why does it walk away from the civic uphill??? Why does he let the civic past??? The civic is a better car in terms of handling and as a complete package but the neo engine is better than the b16. It has a broader torque curve and makes 200ps from the factory. B16 is dead below 6k

    • @flowerliaaulia5590
      @flowerliaaulia5590 Před 5 lety

      For you. For me isn't

    • @BubbleeeyLive
      @BubbleeeyLive Před 3 lety +1

      @@TheBb6prelude I tend to disagree, I feel the b16b is closer to normal Nissan SR series engines both being extremely reliable and adaptable. this SR16VE N1 is in a completely different league, its more akin to a racing spec engine than a mass-produced engine, hints why most of them ended up being used exclusively for racing. as for the cars themselves, the EK9 is the better of the two simply down to it being built from the start to be a hot hatch and then filtered down to the eco mass-produced car while the n15 was built to be an eco-car from the start and stuffers because of that. the easiest way to sum it up would be ek9 a hot-hatch chaise with a hot-hatch engine while the n15 would be a racing engine in a budget eco-focused chaise

  • @zerozero9314
    @zerozero9314 Před 5 lety +5

    しょうもない日産