The Bronze Age Collapse - Before the Storm - Extra History - Part 1

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  • 📜 History of the Bronze Age Collapse, Part 1
    Egyptians. Hittites. Assyrians. Myceneans. Long ago, these four Bronze Age civilizations lived together in a healthy system of trade, agriculture, and sometimes warfare. But then, everything changed when the Sea People attacked.
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  • @extrahistory
    @extrahistory  Pƙed 7 lety +1692

    The four Bronze Age civilizations lived together in (relative) harmony... until the Sea People attacked.
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    • @firetarrasque4667
      @firetarrasque4667 Pƙed 7 lety +21

      DO THE SPANISH INQUISITION. YOU PROMISED US IT IN THE THIRD SERIES.

    • @SandyEA
      @SandyEA Pƙed 7 lety +12

      Or maybe the sea people were one of the four civilizations.

    • @rd-6137
      @rd-6137 Pƙed 7 lety +15

      And who are the Sea People?
      I'm genuinely curious about this topic because pretty much nobody knows. It makes you wonder, you know?
      also inb4 somebody says "it's Walpole, of course."

    • @slendy9600
      @slendy9600 Pƙed 7 lety +5

      Sandy Addison or maybe it was Walpole Kappa

    • @adamdailey6675
      @adamdailey6675 Pƙed 7 lety +2

      Extra Credits
      nothing like that good kush

  • @GiffyMcgee
    @GiffyMcgee Pƙed 7 lety +4169

    *Now the Phoenicians can get down to business!*

    • @8ballentertainment.885
      @8ballentertainment.885 Pƙed 7 lety +59

      Omg yas!!

    • @rateater420
      @rateater420 Pƙed 7 lety +41

      Giffy_Mcgee you beat me to it :(

    • @cattycatyeah
      @cattycatyeah Pƙed 7 lety +241

      business:
      doing trade
      being cool
      inventing the alphabet i guess

    • @thereferenceguy5532
      @thereferenceguy5532 Pƙed 7 lety +218

      Why is my metal all lame and lumpy? Tired of using sad, lumpy metal? Well, now you can use *BRONZE*

    • @Ravenforce3
      @Ravenforce3 Pƙed 7 lety +62

      Other Phoenician business:
      Setting up a colony in the Western Mediterranean to be named Carthage
      Fuck with Rome for a few hundred years
      EH comes full circle.

  • @AntiBunnyStudio
    @AntiBunnyStudio Pƙed 7 lety +3174

    You know this had me wondering. Why not brass? It's as strong as bronze, and is made with the much more common element zinc. As someone who enjoys learning about metallurgy I had to look it up. Apparently the ancients were well aware of zinc, but it was a huge hassle to refine from ore. The problem being that just smelting it with charcoal, zinc boils and evaporates at a lower temperature than it would reduce from zinc oxide. Brass had to be produced in small amounts in a crucible by allowing copper to absorb zinc vapor. As such brass was really only used for decoration, as it was too much work for bronze age technology to produce in useful quantities. Refining pure zinc didn't become possible until the 18th century. So there's why we didn't have a brass age.

    • @Roxor128
      @Roxor128 Pƙed 7 lety +540

      It's people like you who make the comments section worthwhile.

    • @jamshans1269
      @jamshans1269 Pƙed 7 lety +11

      AntiBunny Studio I

    • @chaosherald8879
      @chaosherald8879 Pƙed 7 lety +84

      You, dear sir, have earned my respect. Well put!

    • @anon2034
      @anon2034 Pƙed 6 lety +13

      Thank you!

    • @johannasperski9838
      @johannasperski9838 Pƙed 6 lety +126

      The melting point for zinc is about 300 degrees F higher than tin. That could be why...

  • @RamdomView
    @RamdomView Pƙed 4 lety +1588

    So you mean to say that we live in a post-apocalyptic world, and that the cause and details of the disaster are conveniently unknown?
    I will now no longer criticize authors that lazily evade the nature of their apocalypse.

    • @htoodoh5770
      @htoodoh5770 Pƙed 4 lety +21

      LOL

    • @anaussie213
      @anaussie213 Pƙed 4 lety +127

      Remember this is the Bronze Age collapse, we still have another dark age after the western Roman Empire went down. Two apocalypses.

    • @RamdomView
      @RamdomView Pƙed 4 lety +231

      @@anaussie213 The collapse of Western Rome doesn't compare. Italy was still urbanized and still had literacy - the Germanic invaders did want to reap the benefits of settled civilization. Eastern Rome and Mesopotamia were fine. India and China were also fine.

    • @dingusdangus1790
      @dingusdangus1790 Pƙed 4 lety +31

      @@anaussie213
      The only thing that happened with rome is that names on a map changed. The actual experience of most individuals in europe improved after the collapse.

    • @caiawlodarski5339
      @caiawlodarski5339 Pƙed 4 lety +72

      @@dingusdangus1790 That is false

  • @jessicalee333
    @jessicalee333 Pƙed 6 lety +1332

    More than just these cultures were affected by a collapse around this same time. This was also the end of the Harappa civilization in Pakistan, China was invaded by barbarians, north and central American building cultures suffered during this period. Something big was going on. It could very well have been climate related, something that made it difficult for non-agricultural people to maintain their livelihoods and compelled them to move in and attack wealthier agricultural civilizations. The Odyssey took place during this time (just after the Trojan war which was just before the collapse), and it's a story of a man making an enemy of Poseidon, and fighting his way through treacherous seas and winds (and weird islands) for twenty years.
    It could very well have been a climatic event, like a volcanic eruption that changed global temperatures and weather patterns for a while (at least in the northern hemisphere). There was at least one in the world somewhere around that time, the Hekla eruption in Iceland, which has been considered as a candidate for a cause or contributing factor to this collapse.
    Personally, what I find most interesting about this whole period is how much Greece changed, from the Achaean/Mycenaean civilization to the "Classical" Greek civilization after the intervening "Greek Dark Ages". Their art style completely changed, especially the depiction of people which were originally a bit cartoonish in a Sumerian/Babylonian way, their writing changed from the Linear B Minoan system of writing to their version of the Phoenician alphabet. They just became such a fundamentally different people... while still maintaining some language and cultural elements from the past. There's a major hypothesis about the later Greeks being northern invaders who then settled among the previous Greeks, something that also happened to some of the other places (the Harappa civilization was displaced by the arrival of the Vedic peoples, for example).
    It makes me wonder who they were before. As far as I know the only surviving stories of their culture are the Iliad and the Odyssey, both written centuries later, in the Archaic period and most of the other parts of it were lost. Even from the Archaic period, only some of Homer's works and a few of Sappho's poems survived - considered the father and mother of literature (to the Greeks, and later to the Romans).

    • @jacksonpaul645
      @jacksonpaul645 Pƙed 5 lety +74

      Harappa or Mohenjodaro or Indus Valley had an atomic war...

    • @lucifermorningstar181
      @lucifermorningstar181 Pƙed 5 lety +21

      Interesting theories

    • @bartomiejzakrzewski7220
      @bartomiejzakrzewski7220 Pƙed 4 lety +48

      I edmire your knowledge I agree with you,

    • @lalonly123
      @lalonly123 Pƙed 4 lety +51

      As a history and mythology geek I totally get and support your theory in the end of mohenjo daro and stuff like that had a very violent end and yeah

    • @jujharsingh5461
      @jujharsingh5461 Pƙed 4 lety +17

      Indus valley civilization is indian

  • @DragoniteSpam
    @DragoniteSpam Pƙed 7 lety +1938

    In case anybody's been living under a rock, this is the series that almost all of the EH following has been waiting for since it was introduced to the schedule a half a year ago.
    * bows down at the feet of whoever suggested the topic in the first place

    • @nader50752
      @nader50752 Pƙed 7 lety +17

      Ikr, also, mfw I could have watched this yesterday but was too lazy to do so.

    • @booketoiles1600
      @booketoiles1600 Pƙed 7 lety +19

      @DragoniteSpam
      I was living under a rock (nous a patreon donor) but I still hoped for it, the bronze age collapse is so mind-blowing as an event.

    • @xbuttxz4136
      @xbuttxz4136 Pƙed 7 lety +21

      bookman B. I feel that the Bronze Age collapse isn't as well studied as the fall of the Roman Empire.

    • @DaBTEDI
      @DaBTEDI Pƙed 7 lety +4

      how could this happen????????

    • @Zerpderp0
      @Zerpderp0 Pƙed 7 lety +33

      Xbuttx Z Rome's collapse is studied extensively due to a few factors.
      1) we know what happened. Barring a few mysteries, we generally know when, how and why Rome collapsed (Western Rome that is) thanks to scholars in the eastern empire, and monks and rulers (Like Charlemagne) in the west who would promote literature and keep records of past events.
      2) Rome's collapse had a direct impact on European history, which in turn had a Major impact on modern day world history. Of course one would study that which pertains to us most of all.
      3) Rome was bigger and more impactful on history, since Rome was THE empire to emulate. With codes of laws, Republicans, modern military structure, political beuracracy, and massive public works like Roads and Aquaducts.

  • @gnochhuos645
    @gnochhuos645 Pƙed 7 lety +1556

    Probably the 50 population limit

    • @Sara-bx8vi
      @Sara-bx8vi Pƙed 5 lety +14

      Bad

    • @adamvasquez9926
      @adamvasquez9926 Pƙed 5 lety +11

      So bad

    • @kaiyuzuki3418
      @kaiyuzuki3418 Pƙed 5 lety +29

      AH THE THROWBACKS

    • @kaiyuzuki3418
      @kaiyuzuki3418 Pƙed 5 lety +50

      or they had to sacrifice the workers in order to get the new tech

    • @Amadeus8484
      @Amadeus8484 Pƙed 5 lety +59

      Its true. The Iron Age people had a 200 population limit, but the Bronze age were stuck at 50.

  • @dartwada
    @dartwada Pƙed 6 lety +558

    Fun fact: the name of copper and it's chemical symbol both come from Cyprus. In ancient times, copper was called Cyprium, which was bastardized by the Romans to Cuprum, (which is why copper is CU), which eventually became Copper

    • @Bloodlyshiva
      @Bloodlyshiva Pƙed 4 lety +33

      Cuppa.
      Kuppa?
      Koopa?

    • @valeriosaccoccio9709
      @valeriosaccoccio9709 Pƙed 4 lety +22

      Well kyprium was already kuprium because greeks used to pronounce y as u

    • @wildfire9280
      @wildfire9280 Pƙed 3 lety +6

      @@Bloodlyshiva Kappa.

    • @rapanuikapu904
      @rapanuikapu904 Pƙed 3 lety +2

      Fun fact: 2 + 2 = 4

    • @alivehuman_10
      @alivehuman_10 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      Is this a “FUN FACT” ??? đŸ€ŠđŸ»â€â™€ïžđŸ€ŠđŸ»â€â™€ïžđŸ€ŠđŸ»â€â™€ïž

  • @ares647
    @ares647 Pƙed 5 lety +142

    holy crap, finally something on youtube about ancient history that isn't just conspiracy theories, it's frustratingly difficult to find actual facts on anything from before the classical period that isn't just straight up academic (that is, things that aren't just straight up journal articles published by universities)

  • @knightshade2654
    @knightshade2654 Pƙed 7 lety +1277

    Egyptians. Hittites. Assyrians. Myceneans. Long ago, these four Bronze Age civilizations lived together in a healthy system of trade, agriculture, and sometimes warfare. But then, everything changed when the Sea People attacked.

  • @nicholasrowe6322
    @nicholasrowe6322 Pƙed 7 lety +425

    5:53 - It would appear that you folks have made an error in your placement of the Assyrian Empire, putting it WAAAAY east of its position along the northern Tigris and Euphrates rivers. It's a minor error, I know, but I'm aware that you all want to be kept updated on any mistakes made.

    • @OMs-cu4tz
      @OMs-cu4tz Pƙed 7 lety +41

      Yes you are correct , I was wondering why no body saw it ?they must fix it , they basiclly put the Assyrians in Persia lol

    • @wu1ming9shi
      @wu1ming9shi Pƙed 7 lety +30

      i was already wondering myself why that looked a bit odd. Now i know why. They lade it look like nobody ruled anything in the middle.

    • @DaRealKakarroto
      @DaRealKakarroto Pƙed 7 lety +30

      Also, it isn't true that Egypt was destroyed. At least not completely. 'Bombed back into the Stone Age' maybe, but not fully destroyed. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_Bronze_Age_collapse
      It's something that bothers me a little bit, but I guess this is also one point that will be clarified in their "Lies" episode and it is due to time issues. Well, we will see.

    • @Healermain15
      @Healermain15 Pƙed 7 lety +56

      It's actually quite a relevant mistake.
      Right now it looks like the Assyrians were some faroff nation who occasionally organized long journeys westward, through the barren wastelands of mesopotamia. Instead of being basically their next-door inland neighbour.

    • @nicholasrowe6322
      @nicholasrowe6322 Pƙed 7 lety +24

      Actually they'd been in Mesopotamia for centuries by then, and Mesopotamia was and is far from barren.

  • @pinodevideos
    @pinodevideos Pƙed 6 lety +725

    Its tin from the tin lands
    (My seller wont tell me where)

    • @irrelevant_noob
      @irrelevant_noob Pƙed 5 lety +33

      the term is actually "dealer" ;-)

    • @texasRoofDoctor
      @texasRoofDoctor Pƙed 5 lety +15

      Hint: you have to go past the Pillars of Hercules.

    • @kingslushie1018
      @kingslushie1018 Pƙed 4 lety +2

      Can someone tell me wha this is a reference to? The more details the better

    • @milleniumrdc8414
      @milleniumrdc8414 Pƙed 4 lety +13

      This is a reference to the history of the entire world (i guess)

    • @IdRatherNotHaveAHandleThankYou
      @IdRatherNotHaveAHandleThankYou Pƙed 4 lety +5

      @@kingslushie1018 Bill Wurtz's 'the entire history of the world (i guess)'

  • @knight3822
    @knight3822 Pƙed 3 lety +56

    As a french history teacher I found this very instructive as we barely never talk about what was before ArchaĂŻc greece. Thanks!

  • @engqingyong
    @engqingyong Pƙed 7 lety +601

    Nah tin comes from the faraway lands of Tinland(?)

    • @McMuster
      @McMuster Pƙed 7 lety +196

      I dont know, my dealer wont tell me where he gets it

    • @theoschmidt54
      @theoschmidt54 Pƙed 7 lety +29

      Shaun Eng My dealer won't tell me where he gets it from

    • @Healermain15
      @Healermain15 Pƙed 7 lety +20

      My dealer gets his stash from the faroff merchant state of Tinesia.

    • @firefox7801
      @firefox7801 Pƙed 7 lety +11

      Shaun Eng
      call it england the tin land

    • @MUJAHID56787
      @MUJAHID56787 Pƙed 7 lety +1

      nah from the mountains of afghan which the assyrians got it from

  • @refreshdaemon
    @refreshdaemon Pƙed 7 lety +495

    I suddenly, but quite explicably want to go back and play the original Age of Empires again...

    • @NecroGangster
      @NecroGangster Pƙed 7 lety +26

      The announcement of Age of Empires Definitive Edition last week may also be a factor for that urge :P

    • @ViolosD2I
      @ViolosD2I Pƙed 7 lety +2

      Titan Quest. :)

    • @ShukakuTheCrazy1
      @ShukakuTheCrazy1 Pƙed 7 lety +1

      I actually found it at target in a bargain bin recently. Totally bought it

    • @JimCullen
      @JimCullen Pƙed 7 lety +15

      I know this _isn't_ one of their sponsored series, but wow this would have been perfect fodder for sponsorship considering it's coming right on the heels of Age of Empires 1's 20th anniversary. I am *so* excited for the Definitive Edition to come out! (Or hopefully get into the beta before then
)

    • @shoukatsukai
      @shoukatsukai Pƙed 7 lety +2

      The 50 population limit and the lack of formation commands

  • @joebaumgart1146
    @joebaumgart1146 Pƙed rokem +18

    It all collapsed because of Ea Nasir's inferior copper ingots.

  • @suyash5608
    @suyash5608 Pƙed 4 lety +52

    Indus Valley: "Notice me. I fell too!"

    • @AEWYU
      @AEWYU Pƙed 3 lety +1

      river valley*

  • @logoncal3001
    @logoncal3001 Pƙed 7 lety +467

    All i can think about the Assyrians is how they appear in the fight with the most overpowered tool in the late bronze age.
    Iron.

    • @matheusmelo6022
      @matheusmelo6022 Pƙed 6 lety +56

      Logoncal Exactly. That's why they beat all the people around them so fast and managed to hold the largest stretching empire of their time frame. Oh, and they also had great tactics and were rich, thanks to trading with other wealthy people.

    • @laythhanna2893
      @laythhanna2893 Pƙed 5 lety +13

      I’m Assyrian :)))))

    • @Gothic7876
      @Gothic7876 Pƙed 5 lety +52

      And not for the reasons a lot of people think.
      Late Bronze Weapons were actually better than Early Iron Weapons, due to the thousands of years of smithing behind it. But what gave Iron it’s advantage was it’s abundance. Because it’s was so common, and it wasn’t an alloy, the Assyrians could field massive armies for the time.

    • @raviothethief8292
      @raviothethief8292 Pƙed 5 lety +2

      Logoncal they are the level 20 in a sea of 5s and 10s

    • @tundra5171
      @tundra5171 Pƙed 5 lety +5

      Sorry, but weren't bronze weapons better than iron initially? Far as I recall, iron even breaks quicker than bronze.

  • @writerkiff
    @writerkiff Pƙed 7 lety +333

    Four civilizations lived in peace, until the Fire Nation attacked.

    • @darkmannight1
      @darkmannight1 Pƙed 7 lety +34

      Iron Studios Egyptians are obviously Earth benders.

    • @andresarancio6696
      @andresarancio6696 Pƙed 7 lety +38

      Beta greeks were Water Benders

    • @kalvincastro9042
      @kalvincastro9042 Pƙed 6 lety

      Hittites and Egyptians rival Earth Benders. Hittites got tin, Egypt got limestone.

    • @Requeim4Hope
      @Requeim4Hope Pƙed 5 lety

      @@kalvincastro9042 and Mesopotamians were Air Benders

  • @isaiahsimmons5776
    @isaiahsimmons5776 Pƙed 4 lety +54

    There you are, playing warships in your simulator, and all of the sudden, you're a Sea People.

    • @foodeater1236
      @foodeater1236 Pƙed 2 lety

      We'll all be Sea People in the coming years...

  • @andrewflage910
    @andrewflage910 Pƙed 4 lety +64

    0:18 Ah yes, the famous and mysterious history of the Bronce Age

  • @OliveOilFan
    @OliveOilFan Pƙed 7 lety +555

    EC> history channel

    • @andreujuanc
      @andreujuanc Pƙed 7 lety +45

      Just waiting for "The alien collapse - |: Anti-gravity - Extra Credits" xD

    • @legionxiii8055
      @legionxiii8055 Pƙed 7 lety +50

      Sexy Tomato Just wait for James to prove that Ancient Aliens were actually subservient to Walpole. It was Walpole.

    • @Treviisolion
      @Treviisolion Pƙed 7 lety +17

      This is like comparing an old stubborn donkey to a next-gen racecar in a race.

    • @DuckSwagington
      @DuckSwagington Pƙed 7 lety +10

      Anything better than the History Channel

    • @hemidas
      @hemidas Pƙed 7 lety +3

      Ever heard of Viasat History? Unlike History Channel this one actually stay true to the title.

  • @killerOfMoons
    @killerOfMoons Pƙed 7 lety +290

    I'm betting money on that it was cause by Walpole.

    • @AegixDrakan
      @AegixDrakan Pƙed 7 lety +35

      No one is going to bet against you. It's ALWAYS walpole.

    • @OriginalPiMan
      @OriginalPiMan Pƙed 7 lety +20

      Aegix Drakan
      Walpole isn't responsible for everything, he just has a hand in everything.

    • @rayanhey2411
      @rayanhey2411 Pƙed 7 lety +1

      Sealand Ball in lies

    • @Healermain15
      @Healermain15 Pƙed 7 lety +5

      Of course, he wasn't known as Walpole yet. That's just one of his many incarnations/identities.

    • @k1productions87
      @k1productions87 Pƙed 7 lety +1

      nope, it was the Go'auld

  • @renoloverxoxo
    @renoloverxoxo Pƙed 5 lety +539

    People who think Egypt is a lifeless desert are in denial of de Nile...
    I'll see myself out.

  • @KoyoRadster40
    @KoyoRadster40 Pƙed rokem +10

    Top 10 The Bronze Jade

  • @ArrestedZeus
    @ArrestedZeus Pƙed 7 lety +447

    I don't really comment on CZcams all that often, but I just wanted to thank you guys for all of the extra history videos

    • @tou7331
      @tou7331 Pƙed 6 lety +10

      ArrestedZeus well ya got alot of likes

  • @amarjitsaggu7869
    @amarjitsaggu7869 Pƙed 7 lety +291

    This is sort of like a big game of Civilization. When you introduced the players, it felt like a leader description. Is it just me?

    • @andresarancio6696
      @andresarancio6696 Pƙed 7 lety +61

      With the whole "advantages and political situation" I was waiting for the screen to say "choose your civilization"

    • @mistformsquirrel
      @mistformsquirrel Pƙed 7 lety +7

      Not just you, I felt it too hah.

    • @blacksalena0
      @blacksalena0 Pƙed 7 lety +29

      Can you build a civilization that will stand the test of time?

    • @Febz
      @Febz Pƙed 7 lety +8

      The old board game Civilization was based on showing the development of these empires. The computer game it inspired decided to go more free-form.

    • @randomnumbers84269
      @randomnumbers84269 Pƙed 6 lety +2

      Got some Age of Empires vibes myself :)

  • @VVVV___VVVV
    @VVVV___VVVV Pƙed rokem +7

    Thumbnail looking like they put the new forgis on the jeep

  • @doctordick6172
    @doctordick6172 Pƙed rokem +9

    The thumbnail aged well

  • @kagetasan
    @kagetasan Pƙed 7 lety +133

    I'm so happy this is covered. ive been interested in this since I studied Crete and was fascinated by the near total depopulation of the coastal regions and the near fortified cities in the mountains, also I really hope you mention how the Greeks literally forget how to read for about 4 centuries. that still boggles me.

    • @DarkProtoss123
      @DarkProtoss123 Pƙed 7 lety +22

      Literacy was very low back then. If all the people die who know how to read and write, because it's such an extreme minority, well...

    • @revenger210
      @revenger210 Pƙed 7 lety +21

      From what we know, the Minoans and the Mycenaens were different people with different governments. The Minoans faced an apocalyptic destruction when the local volcano of Santorini errupted, and destroyed everything in its wake, weakening the Minoans enough to allow the Mycenaens tocome out on top and conquer them. Santorini, also, used to be a completely round island until the volcano erruption transformed it into the shape it is today)

  • @fatedate
    @fatedate Pƙed 7 lety +145

    I really love the drawn "horses", it makes me giggle every time because they look more like lamma/alpacca than horses...Imagine ancient egypts, preparing their chariots with lammas

    • @OnThePath777
      @OnThePath777 Pƙed 4 lety +1

      đŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€Ł

    • @JohanKylander
      @JohanKylander Pƙed 4 lety +1

      I can i
      magine horses looked quite different then.

    • @imakebadvideos
      @imakebadvideos Pƙed 3 lety +1

      Lol, now I wanna see a llama chariot race now

    • @justinh6651
      @justinh6651 Pƙed 3 lety

      Llama, not lamma

    • @AEWYU
      @AEWYU Pƙed 3 lety

      that would be physically impossible! llamas only lived in the americas

  • @sofia7587
    @sofia7587 Pƙed 7 lety +29

    This would be a great setting for a total war game

  • @virusguy5611
    @virusguy5611 Pƙed 6 lety +4

    This was probably one of the most interesting podcasts/animated series that I never thought I needed to hear. Bravo!

  • @Craul08
    @Craul08 Pƙed 7 lety +1407

    None of the players noticed their empires were unhappy, so a load of barbarians spawned and burned down all the civilizations.
    Mystery solved.

    • @viech7595
      @viech7595 Pƙed 6 lety +63

      Your city needs more food

    • @SapioiT
      @SapioiT Pƙed 6 lety +7

      Unfortunately, the "sea people" were islamists, and a simple youtube search of "dark ages collapse islam" should provide enough information about that. By the way, the golden ages of islam came just a bit after the bronze age collapse turned into the dark ages for most of the civilized world.

    • @claudiu-mihaipuiu1221
      @claudiu-mihaipuiu1221 Pƙed 6 lety +227

      Sapioit
      You're joking, right? The islamic religion didn't even exist, hell Christianity did not even exist at this time, how the hell would they have been the cause of the collapse pray tell?

    • @bubermarcus8607
      @bubermarcus8607 Pƙed 6 lety +156

      I think you're confusing the Dark Ages with the Bronze Age Collapse.
      The Bronze Age Collapse happened in 1150 B.C/B.C.E before even Christianity existed, the Dark Ages happened after the Fall Of Rome in 5th century A.D and Islam only began 200 years after that. You should do more research.

    • @enchantressdeath1289
      @enchantressdeath1289 Pƙed 6 lety +82

      Yeah... that doesn't make any sense
      First off, Islam wouldn't appear in a couple thousand years
      Second off, for the most part the conquering Muslims tended to respect and protect the cultures and knowledge in the lands they conquered, preserving pre-Muslim Egypt's libraries, painstakingly preserving the Greek and Roman classics, and learning from the Hindu texts

  • @crispygamer2756
    @crispygamer2756 Pƙed 7 lety +179

    Dark Souls reference in a history episode.
    This is why I am subscribed to this channel.

    • @metumortis6323
      @metumortis6323 Pƙed 7 lety +4

      crispy gamer where?

    • @crispygamer2756
      @crispygamer2756 Pƙed 7 lety +12

      0:10 its the bonfire from the souls series

    • @Itzhak1997
      @Itzhak1997 Pƙed 7 lety +4

      0:09

    • @metumortis6323
      @metumortis6323 Pƙed 7 lety +2

      crispy gamer thanks, don't know how I missed that

    • @kennymartin5976
      @kennymartin5976 Pƙed 7 lety +7

      Metu Mortis early on, they got a sword in a smoldering pile of ash around nine seconds in.

  • @thirdgen377
    @thirdgen377 Pƙed 4 lety +1

    Been watching and listening to your channel for about a year now. Love the channel. Love the story-telling narration. You guys are one of very very very few other channels I'm willing to watch ads for.

  • @stutid582
    @stutid582 Pƙed 5 lety +76

    The Mycenaeans conquered the Minoans of Crete, the Minoans were another great Bronze- Age civilisation, which you did not mention.

    • @jacksonpaul645
      @jacksonpaul645 Pƙed 5 lety +3

      and the Romans annihilated the Carthaginians...

    • @jacksonpaul645
      @jacksonpaul645 Pƙed 5 lety +1

      and, i think Egypt repelled the Phoenicians and crippled them badly

    • @stutid582
      @stutid582 Pƙed 5 lety

      Jackson Paul oh really? I did not know about that... Very interesting

    • @stutid582
      @stutid582 Pƙed 5 lety

      Jackson Paul oh really? I did not know about that... Very interesting

    • @hebanker3372
      @hebanker3372 Pƙed 4 lety +12

      Yeah but the Minoic period was long gone when the Bronze Age came to an end.There is no point in mentioning them.

  • @vincents.6310
    @vincents.6310 Pƙed 7 lety +79

    Spoiler alert:
    It was Walpole

  • @dietcoke0703
    @dietcoke0703 Pƙed 7 lety +186

    How to sum it up:
    Well there's the Bronze age colapse....
    *NOW THE PHOENICIANS CAN GET DOWN TO BUSINESS!*
    ‱doing Trade
    ‱Being cool
    ‱Inventing The Alphabet i guess

    • @herman1francis
      @herman1francis Pƙed 5 lety +1

      They didn't really invent the alphabet. They took it from the canaanean alphabet which took it from cuneiform scripts. History is usually complicated

    • @irrelevant_noob
      @irrelevant_noob Pƙed 5 lety +1

      if anyone didn't catch the reference... watch?v=xuCn8ux2gbs&t=362 :-B

    • @Liv-sz8rv
      @Liv-sz8rv Pƙed 4 lety

      Was scrolling for a Bill Wurtz reference

  • @michaelarsyad7986
    @michaelarsyad7986 Pƙed rokem +6

    iltam zumra rasphuti ilatim

  • @wendychavez5348
    @wendychavez5348 Pƙed 4 lety

    For some reason I have a plethora of videos on the Bronze Age Collapse in my feed lately. This is one of the most understandable of them, and I appreciate that it's broken up into manageable chunks (as you are prone to do).

  • @Balsiefen
    @Balsiefen Pƙed 7 lety +91

    Walpole: Can I interest you in stock for the Sea Peoples Trading Company?

    • @robertwalpole360
      @robertwalpole360 Pƙed 7 lety +37

      Hmm . . .very tempting.

    • @robrules9807
      @robrules9807 Pƙed 7 lety +5

      Mister Walpole, have you ever considered investing into the Shang Dynasty?

    • @blitzwaffe
      @blitzwaffe Pƙed 7 lety +7

      Would you like to make a trade agreement with England?

    • @davehoffman4659
      @davehoffman4659 Pƙed 5 lety

      South Sea People Company

  • @vanessathomas6486
    @vanessathomas6486 Pƙed 5 lety +1

    I am hooked on your Series. I had saw them for months, but didn't think much to look. One day I saw a series you had that might interest me. I watched all 4 parts and got HOOKED! Keep making them!

  • @JakeBroe
    @JakeBroe Pƙed 5 lety +7

    Fantastic series! I wish we knew and had more from these great civilizations!

  • @Crocogator
    @Crocogator Pƙed 7 lety +71

    *sighs*
    Fine.
    *opens civ 5*

  • @jasonschneijder2012
    @jasonschneijder2012 Pƙed 7 lety +146

    Hey there EC, I love your history vids, but I wanna correct one little thing:
    The Myceneans and the Minoans were two different civilizations, you presented them as one greek culture in your video which is not unexpected since for most of history greece had only one mayor culture, and the myceneans and minoans are alike.
    But here is the difference: Myceneans lived mainly on the mainland of Greece and western Anatolia, one of the largest Mycenean cities is Mycene, Mycenean cities were often fortified and their art and hierarchy suggests that it was a warrior culture, meaning the Mycenean upper class was a warrior class and they often had conflicts and fights.
    The Minoans lived mainly in Crete and the surrounding Islands, one of their biggest palaces was at Knossos, they were a culture of seafarers and merchants, their art focuses on sea trade, the bull, and fishing, and their kings seemed not particularly aggressive or capable warriors.
    The reason I know this is because I wrote my final report on this last year.
    Hope this was useful!

    • @joluoto
      @joluoto Pƙed 7 lety +7

      The Minoan civilization fell shortly before the collapse though.

    • @paraskevas_patsis
      @paraskevas_patsis Pƙed 7 lety +20

      The Minoan collapse happened around 1,400 BC (possibly due to a volcanic eruption of Thera or even Mycenaean invasions or possibly some of the same reasons that triggered the Bronze Age collapse) so by the time of this video (1,200 BC) the Minoans had collapsed and the isles of the Aegean were controlled to a grater or lesser extent by the Mycenaeans.

    • @joluoto
      @joluoto Pƙed 7 lety +5

      The dating for Thera doesn't add up well with the dating for Minoan collapse, so that theory is now being rejected.

    • @alfredosboz2133
      @alfredosboz2133 Pƙed 6 lety +1

      Jason Schneijder mycenians were influenced by minoans

    • @MoviMakr
      @MoviMakr Pƙed 6 lety +5

      There is some credence to suggest that the collapse of the great seafaring Minoans left a power vacuum/unprotected sea for the "Sea Peoples" to take advantage of whether they were foreign marauders or bands of unemployed soldiers who lost their jobs after the Treaty of Qadesh.
      To add to the matter, he didn't mention that this is the third time Egypt had had to pick up the pieces in their history. They had now been in the New Kingdom phase after kicking out the Hyksos, who brought advanced bronze working tech, horses, and chariots. Monumental projects were far less grandiose than those of the Old Kingdom, but their empire game was top notch.

  • @idsfxtm5759
    @idsfxtm5759 Pƙed rokem +8

    *Iltam Zumra Rashupti ilatim*

  • @SephirothRyu
    @SephirothRyu Pƙed 5 lety +4

    I gotta say, those first 15 seconds are among the best introductions ever to a historical piece. Have you guys ever considered writing actual history textbooks? The style in which you make these episodes would actually make them some of the least dry, easiest-to-learn-from history textbooks ever.
    Frankly, if I were ever stuck with being a History teacher, I'd assign the watching of some of these series as homework.

  • @davidjung3145
    @davidjung3145 Pƙed 7 lety +57

    I love the sphinx with the classic EH face--- I'd like to see a Mona Lisa with the same derpy expression XD

    • @CasperKersten
      @CasperKersten Pƙed 7 lety +1

      You mean like what Mr. Bean did with it?

    • @garbageday587
      @garbageday587 Pƙed 6 lety

      Lol

    • @mohanafy9264
      @mohanafy9264 Pƙed 6 lety

      david Jung I 'd loved him more if the prick Napoleon didn't break his nose by shooting canons polts at him for whatever reason

  • @bucsa4
    @bucsa4 Pƙed 7 lety +12

    YES!!!!!!!!!
    Finally, a CZcams video on the Bronze Age Collapse that isn't a documentary from the 90's or a lecture from a history professor.
    I love this. Thank you for doing a series on this turning point in Human history.

  • @AMasondude
    @AMasondude Pƙed rokem +4

    Thank you bronze age memes for bringing me here

  • @lancemcelrone6118
    @lancemcelrone6118 Pƙed 5 lety +10

    Oh gosh, when you learn more about history on a CZcams channel in minimal time versus School. I'm grateful for this series!!

  • @AnonYmous-db2yy
    @AnonYmous-db2yy Pƙed 7 lety +43

    7:07
    Mycenaeans: The Ancap's Nightmare.

    • @who167
      @who167 Pƙed 7 lety +2

      I mean, as long as they are not public...

  • @Jader7777
    @Jader7777 Pƙed 7 lety +19

    I love how scarce the information about the Brozen Age is, it makes things mysterious and interesting.

    • @tRicky198181
      @tRicky198181 Pƙed 4 lety +2

      Jared Prymont that mystery and human difference has always made history my favourite subject.

  • @laythhanna2893
    @laythhanna2893 Pƙed 5 lety +39

    I’m Assyrian and I’m sad that there’s only 3 million of us left in the world :(

  • @kyleytrimm7277
    @kyleytrimm7277 Pƙed 2 lety

    This really brought the chapter in my history book to life, thanks!

  • @Bryce-yw8hf
    @Bryce-yw8hf Pƙed 7 lety +34

    Well technically Egypt and the Assyrians managed to fight off the sea people but then Ramses died and Egypt collapsed with no one being able to rule.

    • @garbageday587
      @garbageday587 Pƙed 6 lety +1

      The sea peoples were from Atlantis

    • @raviothethief8292
      @raviothethief8292 Pƙed 5 lety

      Bryce 0905 well when you have the Red Sea come crashing down on you that might weaken you a bit but don't worry he will get back up... Any minute now..

  • @imperatorpalpatine1351
    @imperatorpalpatine1351 Pƙed 7 lety +54

    I blame the Jedi for this.

    • @upmostanimal8265
      @upmostanimal8265 Pƙed 5 lety

      What did the clone trooper say to the youngling? Good soldiers fallow orders.

  • @jaohonaxa
    @jaohonaxa Pƙed 6 lety

    I never even knew about these events or this period (not the bronze age itself, just the sudden fall), before this. Man I love this series.

  • @WithASideOfFries
    @WithASideOfFries Pƙed 5 měsĂ­ci

    I really like your approach. The pacing, the art, the tone, and the content are superb.

  • @anttibjorklund1869
    @anttibjorklund1869 Pƙed 7 lety +171

    No mention of the mysterious Sea People?

    • @extrahistory
      @extrahistory  Pƙed 7 lety +167

      Oh they'll be here! We're just seeding the antici...

    • @ATLevi-qw2su
      @ATLevi-qw2su Pƙed 7 lety +87

      ...pation

    • @Tia-Marie
      @Tia-Marie Pƙed 7 lety +9

      Antti Björklund Not The Sea People!! That bane of 1177BCE :P

    • @redeemaugustine5945
      @redeemaugustine5945 Pƙed 7 lety +19

      The Sea People were actually Underwater Archaeologists... (seeing if anyone gets my reference)

    • @fristi61
      @fristi61 Pƙed 7 lety +7

      As for those who reached my frontier, their seed is not, their heart and their soul are finished forever and ever. As for those who came forward together on the seas, the full flame was in front of them at the Nile
      mouths, while a stockade of lances surrounded them on the shore, prostrated on the beach, slain, and made into heaps from head to tail.

  • @Coolcleverstone
    @Coolcleverstone Pƙed 7 lety +34

    Every time they make a dark Souls reference or something like that, I want them to do a lore video.

  • @TheRealCanThought
    @TheRealCanThought Pƙed rokem +3

    Maybe the bronze age is the friends we met all along

  • @FacundoEC
    @FacundoEC Pƙed 6 lety

    Those notes from Actraiser in the intro got me. Amazing channel!

  • @ElBandito
    @ElBandito Pƙed 7 lety +43

    Sea people did it before Vikings made it look cool.

  • @ArmirMitrandir
    @ArmirMitrandir Pƙed 7 lety +8

    Dear Extra Credits team
    I see your transition from games to history, and I must say that I really like your content. You already have told almost all the things that can be said about gamedev, and it is okay. Sometimes the video about gaming appears, and this is cool.
    I love how you talk about history. When I watch them I feel as a part of this ever changing world...
    Keep up a good work!

  • @phoenixrbfa9966
    @phoenixrbfa9966 Pƙed 5 lety

    hay im just finding you now and i have to say i love your stuff its engaging and verry insiteful i realy enjoy lestening to all of your content so thanks

  • @dylanthehopelessrema
    @dylanthehopelessrema Pƙed 5 lety +1

    By far my favorite Extra series

  • @vedransustic9137
    @vedransustic9137 Pƙed 7 lety +5

    The Reaper invasion couldn't be stopped. Bronze Age didn't have Sheperd...

  • @TurrisBlancus
    @TurrisBlancus Pƙed 7 lety +3

    Your channel is getting more and more amazing every time! Thank you for your work -- eternally!

  • @techpriest2474
    @techpriest2474 Pƙed rokem +6

    Why do i see Animan on the thumbnail

  • @alpacaofthemountain8760
    @alpacaofthemountain8760 Pƙed rokem +1

    It's crazy how entire civilizations can be swept away soquicly...

  • @cankerousnigov7262
    @cankerousnigov7262 Pƙed 7 lety +83

    long ago the four nations lived together in harmony but this all changed when the Assyrians attacked...

    • @SapioiT
      @SapioiT Pƙed 6 lety +2

      *islamists. CZcams "islam caused dark ages". A more concrete example would be the video "What really caused the Dark Age? : A 1400 Year Secret (Dr Bill Warner)"

    • @SapioiT
      @SapioiT Pƙed 6 lety +1

      *islamists. CZcams "islam caused dark ages". A more concrete example would be the video "What really caused the Dark Age? : A 1400 Year Secret (Dr Bill Warner)"

    • @thedoruk6324
      @thedoruk6324 Pƙed 6 lety +11

      +Sapioit Dude islam didnt even close to being existed in thousands of years ago; neither judaism nor christianity

    • @misterzee1581
      @misterzee1581 Pƙed 5 lety +4

      The timeline chronology has been changed... Islam and Christianity caused the Dark Age... 'Ancient Egypt' fell in the 1200 AD. and is currently occupied by Muslims... Muslims took Eastern Rome as well and the Christians took Western Rome and Europe...

    • @primodernious
      @primodernious Pƙed 5 lety +3

      as far as i know, it was the egyptians that attacked the assyrians and not the other way around.

  • @andrewmcgraw4811
    @andrewmcgraw4811 Pƙed 7 lety +26

    Total War: Bronze Age/Trojan War. Come on, Sega! You owe us after Rome 2!

  • @andriifx1199
    @andriifx1199 Pƙed 4 lety

    Thank you for your work!

  • @karanacharya7689
    @karanacharya7689 Pƙed 3 lety +1

    This is my favourite Extra history series.

  • @markhenley3097
    @markhenley3097 Pƙed 7 lety +49

    You put the Assyrian Empire way too much to the East, where the Persian Gulf is. In reality, it bordered Egypt and the Hittites.

    • @LionKing-ew9rm
      @LionKing-ew9rm Pƙed 6 lety +5

      Prins van Oranje
      Assyria was in northern Iraq, Southern Turkey, not Egypt!

    • @paralusdivinprophetedupara8903
      @paralusdivinprophetedupara8903 Pƙed 4 lety +5

      Assyria was... in Syria

    • @markhenley3097
      @markhenley3097 Pƙed 4 lety +7

      @@LionKing-ew9rm The map in this video shows them in the Persian Gulf, which definitely isn't true.

    • @muksimulmaad7413
      @muksimulmaad7413 Pƙed 3 lety

      @@markhenley3097 they were kicked out of syria to the gulf by the other kingdoms they WERE where you were talking about
      edit: yeah he pushed them way too east

    • @l2516
      @l2516 Pƙed 3 lety

      G E K O L O N I S E E R D

  • @LetsTakeWalk
    @LetsTakeWalk Pƙed 7 lety +24

    Now the Phoenicians can get down to business.

  • @choirboyzcutleryoutdoors
    @choirboyzcutleryoutdoors Pƙed 3 lety

    Love your channel!! Subbed and Binge watching!!

  • @SeriusSim
    @SeriusSim Pƙed 7 lety +6

    Very interesting topic, thanks EC team. For anyone looking for more info about it the Eric Cline's "1177 BC" talk is a great and accessible summary of the likely causes of the Bronze Age collapse.

  • @alexanderjonathan5170
    @alexanderjonathan5170 Pƙed 7 lety +54

    kingdom of dank kush

  • @RiftZM
    @RiftZM Pƙed 6 lety +1

    Love the art work, as well as the videos. I'm just really liking the art. :D

  • @iAreDuffie
    @iAreDuffie Pƙed 2 lety

    Thank you Dan Shive for sending me to Extra Credits! I love these guys! 💕

  • @XenonXs
    @XenonXs Pƙed 7 lety +3

    If only this series appeared 6 months prior, I wouldve gotten a perfect on my Civ 12 course, though I did get an A regardless. I just love Extra history and wouldn't have passed Civ without using it as a support. Props to the team!

  • @PrograError
    @PrograError Pƙed 7 lety +35

    so the Myceneans are basically the ancestors of The Ancient Greece? surely their architecture looked similar...

    • @MarcieParcie
      @MarcieParcie Pƙed 7 lety +2

      AsHalt I agree, that's what I thought

    • @fristi61
      @fristi61 Pƙed 7 lety +47

      Well, no. Mycenean civilization collapsed to such an extent that the Greeks even lost knowledge of how to write for centuries.
      Greek culture really had to be rebuilt from the ground up.

    • @jonaw.2153
      @jonaw.2153 Pƙed 7 lety +11

      AsHalt Ya they were beta Greeks

    • @Poctyk
      @Poctyk Pƙed 7 lety +7

      So since Greece thought that those buildings were built by gods, they would obviously want to emulate them. Like European "classical" period of architecture.

    • @MarcieParcie
      @MarcieParcie Pƙed 7 lety +1

      Đ ĐŸŃŃ‚ĐžŃĐ»Đ°ĐČ ĐĐ”ŃĐžŃŃŽĐș is that a fact?

  • @zaidhussain5206
    @zaidhussain5206 Pƙed 6 lety

    Thank you so much for this video

  • @Deviltriggerfounder
    @Deviltriggerfounder Pƙed 6 lety

    This is excellent stuff, thanks!

  • @Angenga
    @Angenga Pƙed 7 lety +3

    This is the best video this channel has ever made.

  • @hazardoushumanoid6804
    @hazardoushumanoid6804 Pƙed 7 lety +4

    this video series always makes me want to play some civilization

  • @halkiierid4084
    @halkiierid4084 Pƙed rokem +1

    Fun geology fact - the reason Cyprus has copper mines (which are still active today) is that the volcanic activity in the Mediterranean brings molten metals from the earth's mantle up to the surface.

  • @tjparrillo6575
    @tjparrillo6575 Pƙed 6 lety

    I found this video very insightful for this era is a big mystery.

  • @paultreitel2661
    @paultreitel2661 Pƙed 7 lety +9

    Best. Topic. Ever.

  • @bismarckmech3170
    @bismarckmech3170 Pƙed 7 lety +183

    walpole here

    • @booketoiles1600
      @booketoiles1600 Pƙed 7 lety +7

      Alexander Wultsch
      IT WAS WALPOLE !

    • @ranger525
      @ranger525 Pƙed 7 lety +8

      WHYYYYYYYY! HOW COULD YOU DO THAT! YOU DID EVERYTHING WRONG!

    • @bismarckmech3170
      @bismarckmech3170 Pƙed 7 lety +10

      cuz i can

    • @ebigunso
      @ebigunso Pƙed 7 lety +5

      Hey Walpole, it seems you revealed your secret identity to the world. Now you must come up with a new identity to keep messing with the world...

    • @bismarckmech3170
      @bismarckmech3170 Pƙed 7 lety +3

      yes it is

  • @RobloxLoverz1
    @RobloxLoverz1 Pƙed 6 měsĂ­ci +2

    I have watched this at school today and I want to watch it again!

    • @extrahistory
      @extrahistory  Pƙed 6 měsĂ­ci +1

      SO glad you had a great time watching it!

  • @monolacan1
    @monolacan1 Pƙed 6 lety

    I love that you used the ActRaiser theme. I loved that little angel sim-city game.

  • @malleothaplumbah520
    @malleothaplumbah520 Pƙed 7 lety +22

    what made the bronze age collapse?
    here's my theory:
    it was walpole

  • @Killachow23
    @Killachow23 Pƙed 7 lety +15

    The Dark Souls reference in the beginning made me giddy. Dark Souls and history together, I couldn't be happier.

  • @FoamingPipeSnakes
    @FoamingPipeSnakes Pƙed 5 lety

    I love that you used the Axis and Allies factory pieces for industry illustration

  • @jackgreen4789
    @jackgreen4789 Pƙed 4 lety

    This may be the best set of videos on CZcams

  • @AnonymousComrade
    @AnonymousComrade Pƙed 7 lety +16

    0:21 'Bronce Age'