This railway is the only Heritage line in Northern Ireland. I'd love to see some units from the Ulster Transport Museum brought back to life and brought here! These units were running to Larne up until very recently.
However, Blue Pullman seating and comfort they were not, the same moulded low back seating as the southern region class 455 and the 313,314,315,507 and 508 had when new.
Hello Thumpy, it's Foxy speaking and Strongly excellent video Thumpy :-). I like it :-). Impressive catch filming a really rare looking DEMU (Diesel Electrical Multiple Unit) Thumpy :-). I say that type of train looks extremely rare :-O. But great stuff though :-). Alright then, have a nice evening Thumpy, plus I wish you all the best and stay awesome :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D. From your friend Foxy :-).
These Thumpers of Ireland's Are Sprinters Ireland Has a Thumpsprinter Thumpsprinter = A Thumper That is a Body Shell of a British & Celtic Railways Sprinter Gangway Sprinter (Classed: "150") Sprinter (Classed: "154") Sprinter (Classed: "151") Local Sprinter (Classed: "155"), MotorCoaches Classed: "153" Local Sprinter (Classed: "156"), MotorCoaches Classed: "152" Sprinter (Classed: "157") Gangway Sprinter Express (Classed: "158"), West Country Turbine Classed: "159" = Sprinturbine Express Sprinter Express (Classed: "160") Consistent of Carriages A Motorcoach Only Motorcoach Duet 3 Motorcoaches 4 Motorcoaches Driving Trailers Only 4 Driving Trailers 6 Driving Trailers 8 Driving Trailers Ten Driving Trailers Twelve Driving Trailers Twensen Driving Trailers 8 Pairs of Driving Trailers Power Cars Only 4 Power Cars 6 Power Cars 8 Power Cars Ten Power Cars Twelve Power Cars Twensen Power Cars (Twensen = 14 = Twen (2) + Sen (7) = Twensen = Twense) 14 is Called Twensen in Base Twelve, 13 Is Called: Ele'elve 8 Pairs of Power Cars If a Power Car Had Cabs Both Ends Then It is a Locomotor Coach (It is a Carriage That Works Like a Locomotive) Composite MotorCoach Brake MotorCoach Combine MotorCoach (Composite With Luggage Area) Buffet MotorCoach First Class MotorCoach Power MotorCoach (LocomotorCoach) Carriage Medley (Power + Composite + Driving Trailer) A Pair of Carriage Medleys (Total of 6 Carriages) 4 Carriage Medleys 6 Carriage Medleys 3 Carriages 3 + 3 Carriages 3 x 3 Carriages (Total of 9 Carriages) 3 + 3 + 3 + 3 Carriages 5 x 3 Carriages 6 x 3 Carriages 4 Carriages 4 + 4 Carriages 4 + 4 + 4 Carriages 4 x 4 Carriages 5 Carriages 5 + 5 Carriages 5 + 5 + 5 Carriages 6 Carriages 6 + 6 Carriages 6 + 6 + 6 Carriages
A good question. Surely someone would suggest any other engine doing this would be 'hunting'. You can even see the throttle/idle mechanism moving, that causes this rhythmic cycle!
The governor on these units is almost always over sensitive which causes over correction most of the time (hunting) which is even worse when cold (something to do with the cold lubrication oil which is associated with the governor operation if i remember correctly). The over sensitivity of the governor is also responsible for the sometimes large puff of black smoke when departing on some units (Turbo lag); it would be much less evident with a properly adjusted governor sensitivity (proportional band), perhaps it's not adjustable on these units, I don't know. The Class 37 EE engines also have over sensitive governors, making the Class seem rather cross & aggressive while notching up.
Same basic English Electric 4 cylinder unit, difference being that the 80 class units had the engines from new, while the 450 class had the engines second hand from the withdrawn 70 class units they replaced.
@@rowanNClangley cool, when I first heard the sound of those English Electric diesel engines I thought they sounded like BR class 205 DEMU units, it's possible they may have had the same engines powering them, but I'm not 100% sure
@@SiVlog1989 I think they are all thesame series 4RKT from memory, with the detail changes as a series progresses - the 205 units being early 1960 design, the engines for the 70 class which were re-used in the 455 class were mid sixties and the 80 class engines were new mid seveties, possibly towards the end of the production life of English Electric engines of that series - the contemproary class 56 engines were under the Rustom=n name, though they were in the same lineage which began with the LMS twwins of 1948, powered the class 40 as the 16SVT of 2000 HP, uprated again to 2700 HP for DP2 and the subsequent class 50, and uprated again to 3200 HP for the class 56.
@@eatpasty We have Southwest rail 444/450 trains here. Ugly to look at and they sound like burglar alarms. This 450 class has got character and is unusual.
This railway is the only Heritage line in Northern Ireland. I'd love to see some units from the Ulster Transport Museum brought back to life and brought here! These units were running to Larne up until very recently.
It looks like a BR class 150 with a blue pullman livery sounds like the best thing I've ever heard and overall I would score it 💯/💯
However, Blue Pullman seating and comfort they were not, the same moulded low back seating as the southern region class 455 and the 313,314,315,507 and 508 had when new.
Well, the train was based on a Class 150 with a few upgrades (most notably the motor car with the door arrangement and the engine).
Very nice video
nice purrrr
It’s back the 450 is back
It's GWR's new Class 150's.
ITS NOT A 150 ITS A 450
@@fakelol699 ?
Hello Thumpy, it's Foxy speaking and Strongly excellent video Thumpy :-). I like it :-). Impressive catch filming a really rare looking DEMU (Diesel Electrical Multiple Unit) Thumpy :-). I say that type of train looks extremely rare :-O. But great stuff though :-). Alright then, have a nice evening Thumpy, plus I wish you all the best and stay awesome :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D.
From your friend Foxy :-).
Are you the same Fox my good friend Luke knows . The House from Bognor . And his friend the hst bird from kings cross area
Afraid not no.
@@Foxys-Collective-Videography OK thanks . I know someone with a similar foxy name lol
:-).
It’s crazy to think they are based on a standard rail coach
These Thumpers of Ireland's Are Sprinters
Ireland Has a Thumpsprinter
Thumpsprinter = A Thumper That is a Body Shell of a British & Celtic Railways Sprinter
Gangway Sprinter (Classed: "150")
Sprinter (Classed: "154")
Sprinter (Classed: "151")
Local Sprinter (Classed: "155"), MotorCoaches Classed: "153"
Local Sprinter (Classed: "156"), MotorCoaches Classed: "152"
Sprinter (Classed: "157")
Gangway Sprinter Express (Classed: "158"), West Country Turbine Classed: "159" = Sprinturbine Express
Sprinter Express (Classed: "160")
Consistent of Carriages
A Motorcoach Only
Motorcoach Duet
3 Motorcoaches
4 Motorcoaches
Driving Trailers Only
4 Driving Trailers
6 Driving Trailers
8 Driving Trailers
Ten Driving Trailers
Twelve Driving Trailers
Twensen Driving Trailers
8 Pairs of Driving Trailers
Power Cars Only
4 Power Cars
6 Power Cars
8 Power Cars
Ten Power Cars
Twelve Power Cars
Twensen Power Cars (Twensen = 14 = Twen (2) + Sen (7) = Twensen = Twense) 14 is Called Twensen in Base Twelve, 13 Is Called: Ele'elve
8 Pairs of Power Cars
If a Power Car Had Cabs Both Ends Then It is a Locomotor Coach (It is a Carriage That Works Like a Locomotive)
Composite MotorCoach
Brake MotorCoach
Combine MotorCoach (Composite With Luggage Area)
Buffet MotorCoach
First Class MotorCoach
Power MotorCoach (LocomotorCoach)
Carriage Medley (Power + Composite + Driving Trailer)
A Pair of Carriage Medleys (Total of 6 Carriages)
4 Carriage Medleys
6 Carriage Medleys
3 Carriages
3 + 3 Carriages
3 x 3 Carriages (Total of 9 Carriages)
3 + 3 + 3 + 3 Carriages
5 x 3 Carriages
6 x 3 Carriages
4 Carriages
4 + 4 Carriages
4 + 4 + 4 Carriages
4 x 4 Carriages
5 Carriages
5 + 5 Carriages
5 + 5 + 5 Carriages
6 Carriages
6 + 6 Carriages
6 + 6 + 6 Carriages
THAY ARE NOT SPRINTERS
@@fakelol699 They’re Not, What Makes Them Sprinters Is The Bodyshell
Looks like a 150 in Pullman livery!
Western Pullman you mean because they were different
It's not a 150
So this is a 150 + 205 + Ireland. Interesting.
Essentially the same concept as the 210s, but using an EE engine
Why did they idle like this, with the revs going up and down?
A good question. Surely someone would suggest any other engine doing this would be 'hunting'. You can even see the throttle/idle mechanism moving, that causes this rhythmic cycle!
The governor on these units is almost always over sensitive which causes over correction most of the time (hunting) which is even worse when cold (something to do with the cold lubrication oil which is associated with the governor operation if i remember correctly).
The over sensitivity of the governor is also responsible for the sometimes large puff of black smoke when departing on some units (Turbo lag); it would be much less evident with a properly adjusted governor sensitivity (proportional band), perhaps it's not adjustable on these units, I don't know. The Class 37 EE engines also have over sensitive governors, making the Class seem rather cross & aggressive while notching up.
Why does the engine rev up and down like that?
It'd hard to know maybe the engine didn't have throttle
Which came first the BR class 150 or the NIR 450
The class 150
Its a class 210 basically.
But 210s were never fitted with an EE engine
@@MrGrumpygit488 same principal though
Is it true that the diesel engine for the class 450 was the same used in the Castle Class DEMU?
Yeh
Castle Class? All i got was the GWR Castles...
Same basic English Electric 4 cylinder unit, difference being that the 80 class units had the engines from new, while the 450 class had the engines second hand from the withdrawn 70 class units they replaced.
@@rowanNClangley cool, when I first heard the sound of those English Electric diesel engines I thought they sounded like BR class 205 DEMU units, it's possible they may have had the same engines powering them, but I'm not 100% sure
@@SiVlog1989 I think they are all thesame series 4RKT from memory, with the detail changes as a series progresses - the 205 units being early 1960 design, the engines for the 70 class which were re-used in the 455 class were mid sixties and the 80 class engines were new mid seveties, possibly towards the end of the production life of English Electric engines of that series - the contemproary class 56 engines were under the Rustom=n name, though they were in the same lineage which began with the LMS twwins of 1948, powered the class 40 as the 16SVT of 2000 HP, uprated again to 2700 HP for DP2 and the subsequent class 50, and uprated again to 3200 HP for the class 56.
there's the 450 class and the class 450... confusing
There is a difference. The class 450 is shit. The 450 class isn't.
@@1ns4ne1d10t exactly
@@eatpasty We have Southwest rail 444/450 trains here. Ugly to look at and they sound like burglar alarms. This 450 class has got character and is unusual.
@@1ns4ne1d10t ah I think the desiros are wonderful emus
@@eatpasty When desiros leave the station. They sound like a theif just broke the window of a jewellers shop and ran with the tray of rolex watches...
Looks like a 150, sounds like a 37...