Bakris literally got nerfed. Went from a ×1.22 stacking buff to a ×1.25 not stacking buff. Still pissed about this since it completely ruins builds Oh also, it's literally just a worse foetracer now.
Just in case anyone doesn't know, the sunspot buff they gave to Hallowfire was intrinsic to bottom tree sunbreaker pre 3.0. Just thought that was interesting.
That's what I was going to say. Cool, we got back something they took away. Can we get a buff that actually affects the exotic in a meaningful way now?
It should probably be noted that prior to solar 3.0, any weapon kill while the Sun Warrior buff was active would create another sunspot, not just solar weapon kills while in a sunspot. It's just a worse version of what Code of the Siegebreaker used to be on its own
@@barbos1507 its true!!! hallowfire really needs to get its own identity IMO. the bonus energy regen at full super is really cool but like. not being able to use my super when i want blows lol
I'm not really sure what people mean when saying 'There's nothing else to run other than surges' on legs. I have a hard time seeing when it's worth it because I use those slots for ability regen or healing for classes that don't have it. I mainly use kickstarter mods for lots of my builds, and surges totally contradict using kickstarters. I really like Foetracer especially with the new hunter bay blade aspect since they count as ability damage. Haven't used any of the others yet, but I think these changes are great because it just frees up surge slots for more ability based builds without sacrificing weapon damage.
Exactly. And people will say they need three surge mods but that is only viable in raid DPS phases, but in nightfalls I would much rather use an exotic that gives me a 25% boost because I never run 3 surge mods I always run health on orb pickup or ability regeneration
People sleep on the mods that give you bonuses for picking up orbs. Considering how easy it is to print orbs nowadays, being able to get 15% of my grenade back for every single orb I pick up is just huge. Recuperation saves my butt a lot, too.
The thing about Foetracer is that it enables multiple surge maximization. You can get maximum surge for free using the energy of your subclass while also being able to double down on Kinetic Surge x3 for those who run harder hitting kinetic weapons. Because let's be real, chances are you are going to be using kinetics to whittle down and stun champions because of their innate higher damage than Strand and Stasis (unless you are using Strand/Stasis Foetracer which is not worth it cause the energy specific exotics are leagues better), where you can then use an ability to tag high value targets and dump your favorite special ammo/heavy ammo energy weapons into them.
Foetracer isn't too bad on strand in the little bits I've used it. I can see it being used in higher end stuff, especially with suspend. Cyterwhatevers facade is okay, but if you're making lots of orbs, it can be a bit redundant.
Foetracer is great with a Solar hunter and Sunshot because of the massive boost to your ad clear potential. I’ve been using Cry Mutiny and having 5 damage boosts active at once after a single ability hit is nuts. Makes short work of pretty much all enemies. And since YAS got nerfed and Lucky Pants is more about single target DPS, Foetracer is one of the best solar hunter exotics right now. Pair it with Monochromatic Maestro and you shred everything with a build that balanced gunplay and a positive feedback ability loop. Best part is, it can become pretty much unkillable because of the insane amount of regen you’re able to pull off.
@@SealFormulaMasterBakris only gives Stasis and Arc surge x4 and locks out your dodge ability cooldown and requires stasis dodge (I also said the energy specific exotics were better anyway); Gyrfalcons only benefits void; and Lucky Pants only benefits handcannons.
The buff to lucky raspberry served me well in gms, but I found it hard to get my arcbolt back quickly because my teammates would activate the jolt from a target that I applied jolt to. I only get nade energy back if *I* activate the jolt. So I would definitely like if they added back in the "full chain gets you full energy" aspect back into it, but I would also settle for them making it give energy for my nade each time an ally activates a jolt that *I* apply to a target.
If they revert the jolt changes from a few updates ago, Raspberry would be easier to use in group play. If you aply a jolt it now counts as their damage when it used to count as your damage.
@@hellkaiser21tbh combine caliban’s hand with ophidia spathe so you get two knife charges and the improved knife. I mean we have stuff like young ahamkaras spine that increase your tripmine health, damage, and regeneration so i dont see why one exotic cant do the same thing but for a melee.
@@jacobwhite208 YAS is getting gutted soon, but I agree. The arc staff ones are obvious too but even things like dragon’s shadow and sixth coyote getting merged just makes sense.
I would be way more likely to hunt for a demo + voltshot roll if the demo reload procced voltshot. the fact it doesnt completely ruins the combo for me
use case where I see ACD being actually a pretty good choice is when you're running Acrius as you're punching for trench barrel and using your punches for surges
But then you are giving up a cuirass thundercrash for that, If there is a well user ull alrdy get orbs for surges, same for other 1 & done supers granting additional orbs for refresh of surges
@@lemmingskmt you can swap from cuirass loadout to ACD loadout mid-animation of thundercrash doesnt really excuse the fact that getting armor charges before a damage phase is really damn easy right now and you dont exactly need an entire exotic for that
I'm actually really liking feedback fence. It gives me an option to jolt targets on other subclasses so it does give me protection. And it's super easy to get armor charges for ability regeneration or surges
ACD Feedbacks have proofen themselves fairly useful in Master Crota runs for most encounters. Thralls are everywhere, so getting the punches in for charges and then the jolts for clearing them has been a really big help , especially when the typical normal mode loadouts weren't availible for me and my team. Running the afformentioned Strand setup did work pretty well too sometimes. But it synergized pretty well too running solar titan with the throwing hammer. On the first encounter, they killed a lot of enemies for me. on encounter 2 they've kept me alive with solar. on the Ir Yut fight they were a game changer for me when it came down to take care of all these rapidly respawing barrier champions and their thralls army. I think it'll boil down to how frequently you're going to run into melee ranged enemies in the game and on what difficulty your loadouts are picked. On easy modes, the gimmicky strand build can be fun as an alternative to your heavy weapon. On harder modes, it can perhaps proof useful as an engine for armor charges. It has a niche and it does it well.
Would just like to point out that using the melee attack on glaives also counts toward armor charges on ACD Feedback, so you dont have to just standard or charged melee to build those charges up, plus on glaive it's considerably faster.
I think the most interesting thing I've seen with ACD Feedback fences that makes it pretty dang good is using it with Howl of the Storm on stasis. With any hit from the crystals you generate from it you will get a charge, allowing you to infinite combo even without charged up using 'generate stasis shards from crystals' aspect along with it. (the fragment that boosts melee energy gains is very helpful too, though if you use monte you don't need it). This is the one build I've seen that makes Rime not look like complete ass, and if you use it with chains you can also have the benefit of Jolting people that punch you, giving you access to it from your kit/exotic even when on stasis. It's about the best option I've seen for the exotic, everything else you're better off using heart/syntho for sure.
I actually love the Foetracer rework, it let's me actually focus on a more weapon based build with any subclass I want to play. Especially with how disappointing the Mask of Bakris rework was (what's the point of not needing surges when I still can't use utility kickstart?), I'm very pleased to craft a build around buffing up my guns instead of my abilities sometimes. Not to mention the boss dps buildcrafting, I like using Cloudstrike with an autoloading rocket because I can keep them both beefed up with just my super, it's nice
Hollowfire heart should've buffed sunspots rather than give an unnecessary way to make them. Hollowfire heart: sunspots give super energy, while your super is full, sunspots make you radiant. And obviously it should keep its increased ability regen while your super is full Edit: scrap all this, make hollowfire the roaring flames exotic. It should passively increase the duration of roaring flames by like 5 seconds but while your super is charged, roaring flames stacks last indefinitely.
To clarify, im not exactly sure how sunspots would give super energy, whether it just be an initial boost after stepping in them or added on top of the sol invictus buff but i dont think it should be too significant, the main thing would be sunspots making you radiant when your super is full
Solar titan identity wise is around its hammers. Bringing up sunspots to par could mean giving it to other classes so that they could make their own also means that Phoenix cradle would need to be looked at again You're also entering super Regen territory which would be too much as there would be zero trade off to it not being equiped. This in of itself also means that sunspots themselves would have to be looked at bc there is a cd for making ionic traces otherwise geomags would be beyond its foresaken levels
My main arc hunter build is shinobu’s vow. You can toss like 6 grenades in a row and it is extremely handy to have the grenades passively dealing damage and dealing with enemies while you can focus on staying alive and completing mechanics. Tons and tons of orbs are made two with the right fragments and mods, like 95% of the time I have the most orbs made out of my whole fireteam. Which leads into insane healing capabilities with the right mods as well. Definitely my favorite arc hunter exotic and I find is actually better at keeping me alive than the other popular arc hunter exotics
The feedback fence on arc titan is probably one of the most fun exotics. Paired with monte carlo you have melee up almost infinitely and with a finisher mod you can have grenade just as fast. Ive been using it in most activities and the combo has higher ability uptimes than heart of inmost light for sure. super easy gameplay loop and fun to use
I'm definitely a Knucklehead Radar enjoyer in PvP. It's just very good neutral game to always have radar up and tracking anyone you aim at through walls.
As a fellow Knucklhead, am excited for this buff to it! Should make it more viable in Trials for those dm's. Wonder if it is the same bonus damage as before 🤔
I’m a Warlock main, so sorry if I’m wrong here, but Knucklehead seems dumb because keeping radar is nice, but it’s not mandatory aswell as one of the most commonly used exotics, Ace of Spades, already giving you that. Enhanced radar while crouched is already a fragment for void, and at least that buffs my super regen and mobility. I’ve just never seen the point.
I personally like all of the exotics where it auto buffs damage al la surge mods. They free up slots for leg mods, and there’s some good stuff down there like scav. mods and healing mods. However, if you’re running something like solar titan, you don’t really need those things. Perhaps the community would be more excited about these changes if there were more varied and interesting mods to run over surge mods. Same goes for ACD0. I’d be more enticed to run it if that meant I could run fewer orb generating mods, but those alternative mods need to feel impactful to the build.
I love the change to ACD/Os! I was able to make a good Glaive/Sword build. Get stacks with glaive hits, damage with sword, and jolt any enemies in your vicinity.
For hallowfire ngl I'd like it to increase the damage of your solar abilities while in a sunspot. Synthos would still give more damage to bonk, but it'd give a reason to sit inside your sunspot other than "no die lol". Better ability regen when super is charged, and now you have more incentive to USE said abilities
Hallowfire Heart's new functionality should've definitely been attached to the Phoenix Cradle. Imo, Hallowfire Heart should've gotten something more unique, more in the theme of your chest being a roaring furnace. Something... less about the hammers and sunspots, more about the fire itself. Maybe let roaring flames get to even higher stacks once you've filled your super. Give incentive to 'stoke the flames', y'know? Pile wood high up on your metaphorical pyre before you unleash flaming devastation with your super.
I use it for a strand build - not with flechettes - in Crota's End, simply because there are so many spots where thrall come to give you a hug. I don't use the armor charge bit of it as much as I could, but the lightning shooting out give me an "oh, something hit me. Oh well" thought to run through my head.
ACD/Feedback Flechette Storm is good. Get Banner of War up and running, grab some orbs to get woven mail, and then utilize flechette storm on bosses/high health enemies for good damage. For sure worth trying if you want to break away from an Abeyant leap suspend build. Ehroar has a good video on it. I personally like it and think its great for damaging bosses and champions.
To me, new Feedback Fence feels like "I have all this horsepower and nowhere to gallop." The armor charge gains look so freaking good on paper, but there's just currently not many outlets for them.
Foetracer mixed with the new Strand Beyblade Aspect and buffed Quicksilver Storm has been incredible. Basically infinite beyblades that delete minors/generate ammo + Quicksilver that deletes majors and barrier champs + 25% dmg boosted trails GL for DPS. Not to mention the almost constant woven mail up time cause of strand siphon.
I don’t understand why people would say they’re useless because you can’t use them with surges. Isn’t the whole point of using one of these that now you’ve freed up 9 energy on your build to do other things? Especially foetracer, cuz most if not all hunter subclasses involve hitting an enemy with a melee first already, so you’ll almost definitely have foetracer active when it’s a powerful combatant. And now you can use your leg space for a full stat mod, and get ability energy and healing from orbs. Plus freeing up the room on your legs could allow you to move stat mods around and get more use out of a different armor piece as well.
3:00 hoping bungie acknowledges THIS about gunpowder gamble at some point. Had this happen to me back in haunted over a year ago, still not addressed that our ENTIRE ASPECT could simply decide to not work at times.
one fun thing with acd/0s is on stasis with howl of the storm, the melee has multiple hits so you get multiple charges from the initial hits and the shatters. melee kickstarts and charged up, throw on tectonic harvest, whispers of rending+hunger, and any good primary you can chain the melee back to back as long as you hit with it and can pick up the shards. not really endgame applicable but works in savs spire
Hallowfire should just give access to sunspots and allow you to bodge the third aspect into your build. Secant Filaments, the warlock boots that grant devour on empowering cast, basically give you devour for free... AND you can refresh devour as if you were running either the devour aspect or the fragment that gives it to you on orb pickup.
I think the reason Bungie didn't do that is because titans already have loreley, which creates a sunspot without the need of the aspect. I would love to see hallowfire go a bit further into sunspots tho
I actually really liked and used Eternal Warrior for most of last season, and some of this season, mostly because of how it pairs with Centrifuge. Ive not messed with any of the other exotics because Banner of War-Severance Enclosure silliness has been so fun and Strand modifiers are on most of the time. Ill never forgive Solar 3.0 for killing Hallowfire Heart, it was my daily driver since Red War :,)
As one of those new ACD Feedback Fence enthusiasts (It was my first exotic) it's great with Stasis. In fact, it is the only build I use on Stasis Titan. While the build doesn't allow for lenience when it comes to mod space, it still works and lets you spam your melee. Howl of the Storm is finally a viable option with Tectonic Harvest, and Monte Carlo isn't necessary, but is a good backup. The rework actually did really good for Stasis Titan. I'd use it in raids and strikes, but endgame content might be a pass.
Two things: 1: that was the best ad I have ever seen including Super Bowl ads 2: knucklehead is actually pretty solid in pvp. I used it with oversoul edict and the wallhacks tracked for at least 3 seconds which gave plenty of info about re-peaks. The radar while aiming wasn’t crazy or anything but nice when you sometimes get too invested in the pulse
Oh Inventor of Food - 1) Eternal Warrior is awesome with Risk Runner especially against Hive (Thrall & Boomer Knights) and Fallen! With all of the their arc weapons. Trinty Ghoul is pretty good as well. 2) For Feedback Fence from other updated build videos I would say use Stasis then Strand. Stasis create a good feedback loop.
I have this exact same problem but with Warlock exotics, and similarly Titan exotics. So many of them do the same thing. Fallen Sunstar and CoT: gives extra arc energy. Nezarec’s Sin: extra void energy. Eye of Another World, Apotheosis Veil, and to a slightly different extent Verity’s Brow? Gives extra energy. That’s half of the Warlock helmets, with a small tweak for subclass or charge times. Synthoceps, Peregrine, Wormgod Caress are all flavors of melee damage buffs, granted that fits Titans, but their not super innovative or anything. Take Hunter exotics for example. Yes, a lot of them are rather constrained/niche, but they do that niche super well. Athrys’s Embrace gives a melee bonus damage yes, but it also adds extra utility(Unstoppable stun) and further enhances the playstyle that melee offers (extra bounce). Why can’t other classes get that treatment more? Briarsbind is a perfect example of focusing on a single niche, and making it extremely worthwhile. Would love a change to something like Wormgod’s Caress that leans more into one melee, say bonk hammer, and allows you to call back you hammer, maybe make it able to stun a champion on initial impact.
I’d bet Lucky Raspberry plus Delicate Tomb would be a good combo with the fragments that Jolts on grenade hit and spawn a Trave of Jolted enemy kill. Throw grenade to Jolt, kill the enemy for a Trace, get supercharged Tomb which does crazy damage, spreads Jolt everywhere, and self-sustains with reloads and Jolts on every hit after a Trace, giving grenade energy the entire time
I actually loved the high highs and low lows of Lucky raspberry. Since the beginning of shadowkeep, If you hit at least three targets, you were always guaranteed a full charge. I went through complete strikes, constantly throwing grenades, it was incredible. It was high risk, high reward.
The Hallowfire Heart changes really feel like they were made to pair with Phoenix Cradle, even if you can't equip them together. Chaining sunspots across the arena that your teammates can use for restoration and ability regen sounds like an AWESOME support type build and an alternative to pure bonking. Please bungie, shove these changes into Phoenix Cradle and let Hallowfire Heart do its own thing (maybe bring back melting point for consecration? Pretty please?). It's not like it would be stronger than syntho bonk in 99% of senarios anyways, just let solar titan do something different for the first since season 15, c'mon.
Fun fact about Feedback Fence: It also gives you infinite Howl of the Storm melees with the right build. It may not be the best build on the market, but damn if it ain't fun! Also, it's easier to proc.
I was a hollofireheart enjoyer The moment I started (beyondlight Till solar 3.0 I would use nothing but that First they took my subclass they utterly destroyer the way of the siegebreaker And now they made an allready underwhelming even worse by just Adding the pre 3.0 subclass and removing the whole point of the exotic
I missing so much my ONLY ABILITY BUILD with termite nades for every content cuz regen of hollowfire heart pre-beyond light was dope My heart still cry out everytime ppl mention it.... They don't know how funny it was 😢❤
actually used to use foetracer as a quickswap exotic for final stands, and I loved the information and possibilities it provided in pvp completely gutted by the fact that in order to have the same functionality I now have to grind out a knucklehead radar for it, as well as having to regrind a new foetracer for different styles of builds, need more strength for the whole whisper of impetus play on stasis hunter as well as better mobility for dodging to either just have another reload or to get another melee back faster
I agree. I think I’d use Hallowfire Heart if it did generate sunspots without having Sol Invictus equipped. It does make sense that Bungie doesn’t want us to have access to all 3 aspects at the same time, but I mean, Loreley works that way(take off sol invictus, the sunspot still generates).
Relating to the if you hit 4 targets it return grenade thing. If it gave half of the charge back, then you probably would be at full or near full when picking up an ionic trace
Feedback fence with a glaive is actually alot of fun. also feel like there is more shenanigans to be flushed out on top it with banner of war and /or vexcaliber
I think HH's rework should've been given to Phoenix Cradle, since it would benefit it more. In HH's case, I think it needs to mix well with solar 3.0 verbs. With the exception of granting increased ability energy while the super is full, it should allow solar abilites to apply a set amount of scorch and while the super is charged, it should increase the damage of scorch & increase ability regeneration.
AC/DC has some amazing interactions with void for the memes and moreso stasis for the endgame PVE activities. Take the flechette storm build and switch it over to stasis. You don’t need all the mods for a similar effect of a infinite melee when you run shards and howling storm with it. + it just feels really good. There’s a very nice mix of play from all ur abilities + gunplay that feels very satisfying yet effective. Papa Datto told me to tell you guys abt it
I think a cool idea for Hallowfire would be: enemies scorched by your abilities explode into a bunch of smaller or less potent sunspots in a small/medium radius. Alternatively: enemies killed by your solar abilities explode for a % of their max hp, each enemy killed by said explosion gives % energy back. Might have some balancing issues, but it's food for thought. I definitely hope we see more risk in future exotic reworks/creations.
AC DC feed back fence is really good at generating special ammo. by punching something to get them down to finisher you'll be able to finish them for special for your team and you. niche but could have a use case
I'm gonna be the aforementioned "Um actually" guy for Foetracer here. This is one of, if not the best exotic for Strand Hunter. And the reason is not the damage buff, but the guaranteed tangle. Being able to guarantee a tangle EXACTLY when you need it is a huge boon. It lets you keep uptime on your beyblades to a maximum and to its most efficient. Having 2-3 beyblades going at at time is absolutely wild, and then you get a very sizable damage buff on top of that as well. Everything is severed, everything is in a blender, and elite collapse like tissue paper.
Hallowfire buff is just a function of solar 2.0 being brought back. I used to use it to chain two tapping 120rpms or 3 tapping 180rpms in PvP. But radiant isn't enough to make this work as well.
I am the AC/D0 feedback fence enthusiasts. I’ve been loving it not even just on strand. I love the utility of being able to just have as much armor charge as I want and being able to dump all of those into any charge mod I deem appropriate. And I’m pvp it’s absolutely bananas, please try it if you haven’t
Strongholds are bonkers, actually. Play it on Strand sometime, you are unkillable even without BoW (I did it in a few hard things last season). The trouble is mostly just justifying a sword in the first place.
Wondering how useful Feedback Fence would be with Special Finisher. Punch stuff up all the time to always have a stack of charges to make ammo for your team.
Feedback fences have the best use with strand melee build currently. You have even more damage resistance on top of woven mail. A GM unstoppable ogre slamming on you tickles at best, and jolts them for the team. Melee bosses become an absolute joke. Also as you get armor charges per hit, this also means you get armor charges PER ENEMY hit and every hit of a multi hit melee, such as the strand grapple melee. A single good grapple melee can put you upwards of 3 armor charges instantly. A 5 charge feedback fence explosion is quite potent it turns out. And thanks to health orbs, a kill brings you back to full health. You are very, very hard to kill in the hardest modes of the game with this set up, especially if you get in everything's face and force them into melee animations.
update on foetracer in mid season of the wish: its actually quite good as a passive exotic. not a massive "exotic style effect" but actually quite good on solar and void with thier spamable melees
Iv actually been really turned off of Hallow Fire Heart since the rework. I enjoy general use Exotics that can work with most builds and that's what HFH was. I couldn't care less about sunspots, I just wanted my ability Regen lol
Had a clanmate try it. Seems okay, but kinda redundant--Woven Mail and BOW healing is already enough for basically everything, so might as well use something with a bit more offensive punch.
I personally made some "variety builds" with the surge exotics just to play seasonal and relatively easy content and just level weapons or complete exotic catalysts
The fact that sunspots are so easy to make, and the sunspot internal cooldown make Hallowfire heart for me kinda bleh. I wish it had allowed me to make sunspots without the aspect, or allowed sunspots some additional function
Lucky Raspberry got me through the Vexcalibur mission solo, is very consistent now but I feel like getting rid of the the insta nade gain was unnecessary, it isn't like arcbolts deal a lot of damage so what damage could it do to get them more often?
Give us more multiple choice pop quizzes! It was fun even though I'm a warlock main and knew it immediately. And even as a warlock main, I used Prometheum Spur once for about 20 minutes and then never again.
If they brought back hollowfire's old ability as well as made it so killing enemies with sun spots and enemies while standing in a sun spots grant super energy, i mean the whole point of the exotic now is sun spot and ability spam, why not combine the 2 and keep a cooldown to balance it like it already has, i personally think that could work out better for the exotic
Hallowfire is a fun build with Tessellation to consume your grenade over and over. The new line of text barely does anything, but this is a source of passive regen that HOIL couldn't do.
I honestly like the Lucky Raspberry changes, even though when I play Arc Hunter I throw on a melee exotic and punch everything. Having the option to throw an arcbolt grenade and Jolt 4 targets at once is pretty nice. But I just don't think it holds a candle to the other Arc Hunter exotics. Give me Liar's Handshake or Assassin's Cowl and I'm good. Hallowfire Heart, you said it best already; Solar Titans have so many exotics to choose from, including the new Burning Maul exotic, that Hallowfire Heart just isn't on anyone's priority list outside of fashion. Me, I'm going Phoenix Cradle whenever I'm in a team, and Loreley when solo. ACD/0 Feedback Fence, I legit haven't tried out. Once the c-word DDoSing the servers steps on a lego and enters a righteous coma, I'll get back to you. Edit: Tried out Feedback Fence, didn't notice it doing anything at all. I'm sticking with Synthos, thanks.
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My thing is why use lucky raspberry when shinobu's vow exists? Those things have made GMs so insanely easy on hunter with just infinite skip grenades. Don't have to aim them, just toss them nearby and they find their way, and since there are 4 skips they proc the lightning on jolt so it stuns overloads consistently.
The Hallow Fire heart nerf actually feels so bad. Losing out on free ability regen in leiu of... the same ability regen we had before without the exotic. How I would have buffed it would be: Increases ability regeneration, increases even further while you have full super energy. Sunspots deal more damage and apply more scorch, applying more while you have full super energy. Feedback Fences are good honestly. If snything the armor charge system needs more stuff to make building into it more exciting. Lucky Raspberry just needs 1 of 2 small changes. Either make arcbolts Jolt at base, or make arcbolt hits also return a small amount of energy. I like the second more since it leans into its previous fantasy of hitting a max chain to get your arcbolt back, but the first would work fine to free up a fragment slot.
When you mentioned Crota's end, my thought for ACD/0 was the first encounter! go strand titan with Banner, Monte Carlo and a glaive. should help with survivability and to keep the thralls off you
I do this, although wasn't using Monte Carlo or a glaive. Generally the last one going over the bridge solo, cause with banner of war keeping the healing going, there's basically no threat to me.
I use a feedback set up for the lanterns in crota and that’s about it. It’s pretty fun. Not the most optimal but it can be nice to use something different every now and then rather than the same old synthoceps strand or solar builds I tend to focus on
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One notable thing about feedback fence for pvp is that with it on, shoulder charge abilities give max armor charge.
Adding non-stacking damage bonuses to exotics is the new "adding AE" to exotics as a buff.
dumbass take
I don't mind them as long as the 'do thing to earn max stacks' feels rewarding
Bakris literally got nerfed.
Went from a ×1.22 stacking buff to a ×1.25 not stacking buff.
Still pissed about this since it completely ruins builds
Oh also, it's literally just a worse foetracer now.
Reminds me when whisper got +80 AE so now you can 360 no scope mid air in oryx
@@lorentzdriver4048it’s just that why should i do that when it’s so easy to get armor charges and there’s no need to run anything other than surges
Just in case anyone doesn't know, the sunspot buff they gave to Hallowfire was intrinsic to bottom tree sunbreaker pre 3.0. Just thought that was interesting.
That's what I was going to say. Cool, we got back something they took away. Can we get a buff that actually affects the exotic in a meaningful way now?
It's also a nerf. Intrinsically sunspots buff regen by 100%. About what it used to give us for free.
It should probably be noted that prior to solar 3.0, any weapon kill while the Sun Warrior buff was active would create another sunspot, not just solar weapon kills while in a sunspot. It's just a worse version of what Code of the Siegebreaker used to be on its own
The funny thing is, hallowfire isn't even a sunspot exotic. If anything it's pheonix cradle that should have get this thing, if not as a base aspect.
@@barbos1507 its true!!! hallowfire really needs to get its own identity IMO. the bonus energy regen at full super is really cool but like. not being able to use my super when i want blows lol
I'm not really sure what people mean when saying 'There's nothing else to run other than surges' on legs. I have a hard time seeing when it's worth it because I use those slots for ability regen or healing for classes that don't have it. I mainly use kickstarter mods for lots of my builds, and surges totally contradict using kickstarters. I really like Foetracer especially with the new hunter bay blade aspect since they count as ability damage. Haven't used any of the others yet, but I think these changes are great because it just frees up surge slots for more ability based builds without sacrificing weapon damage.
Exactly. I'm not using decay mods when my build takes advantage of Kickstart or finisher mods.
Exactly. And people will say they need three surge mods but that is only viable in raid DPS phases, but in nightfalls I would much rather use an exotic that gives me a 25% boost because I never run 3 surge mods I always run health on orb pickup or ability regeneration
People sleep on the mods that give you bonuses for picking up orbs. Considering how easy it is to print orbs nowadays, being able to get 15% of my grenade back for every single orb I pick up is just huge. Recuperation saves my butt a lot, too.
@@Brutaliraptorrecuperation is the best mod in game imo
Datto is now legally required to change his guardians name to "Datto, Inventor Of Food"
Someone definitely has that name on steam/destiny now
This ad read was the funniest fucking ad read I have ever watched. Funny enough that I can skip it like I always do
Vegetable Datto type beat
I'm still wondering what the other four important holes are that make your mouth the fifth most important
The thing about Foetracer is that it enables multiple surge maximization. You can get maximum surge for free using the energy of your subclass while also being able to double down on Kinetic Surge x3 for those who run harder hitting kinetic weapons. Because let's be real, chances are you are going to be using kinetics to whittle down and stun champions because of their innate higher damage than Strand and Stasis (unless you are using Strand/Stasis Foetracer which is not worth it cause the energy specific exotics are leagues better), where you can then use an ability to tag high value targets and dump your favorite special ammo/heavy ammo energy weapons into them.
Foetracer isn't too bad on strand in the little bits I've used it. I can see it being used in higher end stuff, especially with suspend. Cyterwhatevers facade is okay, but if you're making lots of orbs, it can be a bit redundant.
or you could use a good exotic
Foetracer is great with a Solar hunter and Sunshot because of the massive boost to your ad clear potential. I’ve been using Cry Mutiny and having 5 damage boosts active at once after a single ability hit is nuts. Makes short work of pretty much all enemies. And since YAS got nerfed and Lucky Pants is more about single target DPS, Foetracer is one of the best solar hunter exotics right now. Pair it with Monochromatic Maestro and you shred everything with a build that balanced gunplay and a positive feedback ability loop.
Best part is, it can become pretty much unkillable because of the insane amount of regen you’re able to pull off.
I could use Bakris to get basically the same effect. Or Hauberk on Void. Or Lucky Pants if you want to use any element.
@@SealFormulaMasterBakris only gives Stasis and Arc surge x4 and locks out your dodge ability cooldown and requires stasis dodge (I also said the energy specific exotics were better anyway); Gyrfalcons only benefits void; and Lucky Pants only benefits handcannons.
The buff to lucky raspberry served me well in gms, but I found it hard to get my arcbolt back quickly because my teammates would activate the jolt from a target that I applied jolt to. I only get nade energy back if *I* activate the jolt. So I would definitely like if they added back in the "full chain gets you full energy" aspect back into it, but I would also settle for them making it give energy for my nade each time an ally activates a jolt that *I* apply to a target.
If they revert the jolt changes from a few updates ago, Raspberry would be easier to use in group play.
If you aply a jolt it now counts as their damage when it used to count as your damage.
I think at this point there are too many exotics and some could do with being merged unless there's a better idea.
LOTS of hunter exotics could go for this. All classes could, but I really feels like hunters come to mind first tbh.
Give em the knucklehead radar treatment, it was a sick change/merge
@@hellkaiser21 blight ranger+any arc staff exotic
@@hellkaiser21tbh combine caliban’s hand with ophidia spathe so you get two knife charges and the improved knife. I mean we have stuff like young ahamkaras spine that increase your tripmine health, damage, and regeneration so i dont see why one exotic cant do the same thing but for a melee.
@@jacobwhite208 YAS is getting gutted soon, but I agree. The arc staff ones are obvious too but even things like dragon’s shadow and sixth coyote getting merged just makes sense.
I would be way more likely to hunt for a demo + voltshot roll if the demo reload procced voltshot. the fact it doesnt completely ruins the combo for me
use case where I see ACD being actually a pretty good choice is when you're running Acrius as you're punching for trench barrel and using your punches for surges
But then you are giving up a cuirass thundercrash for that, If there is a well user ull alrdy get orbs for surges, same for other 1 & done supers granting additional orbs for refresh of surges
@@lemmingskmt you can swap from cuirass loadout to ACD loadout mid-animation of thundercrash
doesnt really excuse the fact that getting armor charges before a damage phase is really damn easy right now and you dont exactly need an entire exotic for that
You are likely to be damaged by a melee in that scenario, which means you're gonna lose all of your charges.
It works on Glaive melee and the charges can be used w grenade kickstart for great effect. Especially on void sub.
I'm actually really liking feedback fence. It gives me an option to jolt targets on other subclasses so it does give me protection. And it's super easy to get armor charges for ability regeneration or surges
and easy special ammo finishers too.
Feedback Fence is really good on Stasis Titan with the slide crystals and tectonic harvest aspects. Brilliant for ad clear
@@PenguinzFTW works really well with Strand Titan running War Banner too
ACD Feedbacks have proofen themselves fairly useful in Master Crota runs for most encounters. Thralls are everywhere, so getting the punches in for charges and then the jolts for clearing them has been a really big help , especially when the typical normal mode loadouts weren't availible for me and my team. Running the afformentioned Strand setup did work pretty well too sometimes. But it synergized pretty well too running solar titan with the throwing hammer. On the first encounter, they killed a lot of enemies for me. on encounter 2 they've kept me alive with solar. on the Ir Yut fight they were a game changer for me when it came down to take care of all these rapidly respawing barrier champions and their thralls army.
I think it'll boil down to how frequently you're going to run into melee ranged enemies in the game and on what difficulty your loadouts are picked. On easy modes, the gimmicky strand build can be fun as an alternative to your heavy weapon. On harder modes, it can perhaps proof useful as an engine for armor charges. It has a niche and it does it well.
Stasis feedback fence build is pretty solid once the loop is managed. Great crowd control and decent resistance too. Health Regen struggles tho.
The statis shard overshield nerf pains me.
strand shits on it, no offense
@@thatonepenguinperson618real
@@thatonepenguinperson618hopeful for the Stasis changes next season.
@@thatonepenguinperson618 they barely touched it unless you were playing PVP
"Hi I'm Datto, inventor of food." LMAOOOO
Would just like to point out that using the melee attack on glaives also counts toward armor charges on ACD Feedback, so you dont have to just standard or charged melee to build those charges up, plus on glaive it's considerably faster.
I think the most interesting thing I've seen with ACD Feedback fences that makes it pretty dang good is using it with Howl of the Storm on stasis. With any hit from the crystals you generate from it you will get a charge, allowing you to infinite combo even without charged up using 'generate stasis shards from crystals' aspect along with it. (the fragment that boosts melee energy gains is very helpful too, though if you use monte you don't need it). This is the one build I've seen that makes Rime not look like complete ass, and if you use it with chains you can also have the benefit of Jolting people that punch you, giving you access to it from your kit/exotic even when on stasis.
It's about the best option I've seen for the exotic, everything else you're better off using heart/syntho for sure.
I actually love the Foetracer rework, it let's me actually focus on a more weapon based build with any subclass I want to play. Especially with how disappointing the Mask of Bakris rework was (what's the point of not needing surges when I still can't use utility kickstart?), I'm very pleased to craft a build around buffing up my guns instead of my abilities sometimes. Not to mention the boss dps buildcrafting, I like using Cloudstrike with an autoloading rocket because I can keep them both beefed up with just my super, it's nice
Hollowfire heart should've buffed sunspots rather than give an unnecessary way to make them.
Hollowfire heart: sunspots give super energy, while your super is full, sunspots make you radiant. And obviously it should keep its increased ability regen while your super is full
Edit: scrap all this, make hollowfire the roaring flames exotic.
It should passively increase the duration of roaring flames by like 5 seconds but while your super is charged, roaring flames stacks last indefinitely.
To clarify, im not exactly sure how sunspots would give super energy, whether it just be an initial boost after stepping in them or added on top of the sol invictus buff but i dont think it should be too significant, the main thing would be sunspots making you radiant when your super is full
What if it just amped the amount of scorch that sunspots cause?
Solar titan identity wise is around its hammers. Bringing up sunspots to par could mean giving it to other classes so that they could make their own also means that Phoenix cradle would need to be looked at again
You're also entering super Regen territory which would be too much as there would be zero trade off to it not being equiped. This in of itself also means that sunspots themselves would have to be looked at bc there is a cd for making ionic traces otherwise geomags would be beyond its foresaken levels
@ratherbedealingarms honestly i think that sounds more like a good Phoenix cradle buff
If they just added sunspots to the exotic so you could run consecration while still having both sun warrior and roaring flames i would use it 100%
Bungie missed an opportunity making the Phoenix Cradle have that sunspot behaviour. It would be a nice use case, and makes sense to add.
My problem with Luck Raspberry is that it’s Arcbolt grenades, which aren’t really known for being good or snything
What? Arcbolts are great
@@lukatosic09 literally every other grenade besides flashbangs and fluxes are better
@@kashema1810 lmao no
Storm, pulse, flash, arcbolt, lightning, skip, flux in that order
My main arc hunter build is shinobu’s vow. You can toss like 6 grenades in a row and it is extremely handy to have the grenades passively dealing damage and dealing with enemies while you can focus on staying alive and completing mechanics. Tons and tons of orbs are made two with the right fragments and mods, like 95% of the time I have the most orbs made out of my whole fireteam. Which leads into insane healing capabilities with the right mods as well. Definitely my favorite arc hunter exotic and I find is actually better at keeping me alive than the other popular arc hunter exotics
any grenade is good if you can spam it rapidly tbh
The feedback fence on arc titan is probably one of the most fun exotics. Paired with monte carlo you have melee up almost infinitely and with a finisher mod you can have grenade just as fast. Ive been using it in most activities and the combo has higher ability uptimes than heart of inmost light for sure. super easy gameplay loop and fun to use
cant believe datto invented food we really do owe him everything
I'm definitely a Knucklehead Radar enjoyer in PvP. It's just very good neutral game to always have radar up and tracking anyone you aim at through walls.
As a fellow Knucklhead, am excited for this buff to it! Should make it more viable in Trials for those dm's. Wonder if it is the same bonus damage as before 🤔
I always used foetracer before the effect got moved. It makes peak fights so unfair and I love it
I’m a Warlock main, so sorry if I’m wrong here, but Knucklehead seems dumb because keeping radar is nice, but it’s not mandatory aswell as one of the most commonly used exotics, Ace of Spades, already giving you that. Enhanced radar while crouched is already a fragment for void, and at least that buffs my super regen and mobility. I’ve just never seen the point.
@@Halo916_ keeping tracking and radar on a snipe is the biggest benefit imo
I personally like all of the exotics where it auto buffs damage al la surge mods. They free up slots for leg mods, and there’s some good stuff down there like scav. mods and healing mods. However, if you’re running something like solar titan, you don’t really need those things.
Perhaps the community would be more excited about these changes if there were more varied and interesting mods to run over surge mods.
Same goes for ACD0. I’d be more enticed to run it if that meant I could run fewer orb generating mods, but those alternative mods need to feel impactful to the build.
I love the change to ACD/Os! I was able to make a good Glaive/Sword build. Get stacks with glaive hits, damage with sword, and jolt any enemies in your vicinity.
For hallowfire ngl I'd like it to increase the damage of your solar abilities while in a sunspot. Synthos would still give more damage to bonk, but it'd give a reason to sit inside your sunspot other than "no die lol". Better ability regen when super is charged, and now you have more incentive to USE said abilities
Hallowfire Heart's new functionality should've definitely been attached to the Phoenix Cradle.
Imo, Hallowfire Heart should've gotten something more unique, more in the theme of your chest being a roaring furnace.
Something... less about the hammers and sunspots, more about the fire itself.
Maybe let roaring flames get to even higher stacks once you've filled your super. Give incentive to 'stoke the flames', y'know? Pile wood high up on your metaphorical pyre before you unleash flaming devastation with your super.
Hallowfire is one of those exotics where now that they've buffed it once, they're not gonna touch it again for another 2 years
ACD/0 feedback fence gives near 100% uptime on the slide crystal creation melee.
I tried the strand build, and couldn’t get it to work well
I use it for a strand build - not with flechettes - in Crota's End, simply because there are so many spots where thrall come to give you a hug. I don't use the armor charge bit of it as much as I could, but the lightning shooting out give me an "oh, something hit me. Oh well" thought to run through my head.
ACD/Feedback Flechette Storm is good. Get Banner of War up and running, grab some orbs to get woven mail, and then utilize flechette storm on bosses/high health enemies for good damage. For sure worth trying if you want to break away from an Abeyant leap suspend build. Ehroar has a good video on it. I personally like it and think its great for damaging bosses and champions.
To me, new Feedback Fence feels like "I have all this horsepower and nowhere to gallop." The armor charge gains look so freaking good on paper, but there's just currently not many outlets for them.
Foetracer mixed with the new Strand Beyblade Aspect and buffed Quicksilver Storm has been incredible. Basically infinite beyblades that delete minors/generate ammo + Quicksilver that deletes majors and barrier champs + 25% dmg boosted trails GL for DPS. Not to mention the almost constant woven mail up time cause of strand siphon.
I don’t understand why people would say they’re useless because you can’t use them with surges. Isn’t the whole point of using one of these that now you’ve freed up 9 energy on your build to do other things? Especially foetracer, cuz most if not all hunter subclasses involve hitting an enemy with a melee first already, so you’ll almost definitely have foetracer active when it’s a powerful combatant. And now you can use your leg space for a full stat mod, and get ability energy and healing from orbs. Plus freeing up the room on your legs could allow you to move stat mods around and get more use out of a different armor piece as well.
"Hi, Im Datto, Inventor of food"
I am fucking DYING
3:00 hoping bungie acknowledges THIS about gunpowder gamble at some point. Had this happen to me back in haunted over a year ago, still not addressed that our ENTIRE ASPECT could simply decide to not work at times.
one fun thing with acd/0s is on stasis with howl of the storm, the melee has multiple hits so you get multiple charges from the initial hits and the shatters. melee kickstarts and charged up, throw on tectonic harvest, whispers of rending+hunger, and any good primary you can chain the melee back to back as long as you hit with it and can pick up the shards. not really endgame applicable but works in savs spire
Hallowfire should just give access to sunspots and allow you to bodge the third aspect into your build. Secant Filaments, the warlock boots that grant devour on empowering cast, basically give you devour for free... AND you can refresh devour as if you were running either the devour aspect or the fragment that gives it to you on orb pickup.
I think the reason Bungie didn't do that is because titans already have loreley, which creates a sunspot without the need of the aspect. I would love to see hallowfire go a bit further into sunspots tho
Hallowfire should just make it so any solar ability final blows cure you, so instead of having to run sunspots for healing, u can run consecration
I actually really liked and used Eternal Warrior for most of last season, and some of this season, mostly because of how it pairs with Centrifuge. Ive not messed with any of the other exotics because Banner of War-Severance Enclosure silliness has been so fun and Strand modifiers are on most of the time.
Ill never forgive Solar 3.0 for killing Hallowfire Heart, it was my daily driver since Red War :,)
The fact that datto manages to make me not instaskip sponsors is genuinely impressive
As one of those new ACD Feedback Fence enthusiasts (It was my first exotic) it's great with Stasis. In fact, it is the only build I use on Stasis Titan.
While the build doesn't allow for lenience when it comes to mod space, it still works and lets you spam your melee. Howl of the Storm is finally a viable option with Tectonic Harvest, and Monte Carlo isn't necessary, but is a good backup.
The rework actually did really good for Stasis Titan. I'd use it in raids and strikes, but endgame content might be a pass.
Two things:
1: that was the best ad I have ever seen including Super Bowl ads
2: knucklehead is actually pretty solid in pvp. I used it with oversoul edict and the wallhacks tracked for at least 3 seconds which gave plenty of info about re-peaks. The radar while aiming wasn’t crazy or anything but nice when you sometimes get too invested in the pulse
the ad in the middle was actually hilarious. nice.
Also, I got the question from 9:58 correct because I used to main promethium spur.
Oh Inventor of Food - 1) Eternal Warrior is awesome with Risk Runner especially against Hive (Thrall & Boomer Knights) and Fallen! With all of the their arc weapons. Trinty Ghoul is pretty good as well. 2) For Feedback Fence from other updated build videos I would say use Stasis then Strand. Stasis create a good feedback loop.
I don't know why the quiz at 9:48 gut-punched me with laughter, but it did!
Datto is so wonderfully dry that the tiniest gag hits hard.
I have this exact same problem but with Warlock exotics, and similarly Titan exotics. So many of them do the same thing. Fallen Sunstar and CoT: gives extra arc energy. Nezarec’s Sin: extra void energy. Eye of Another World, Apotheosis Veil, and to a slightly different extent Verity’s Brow? Gives extra energy. That’s half of the Warlock helmets, with a small tweak for subclass or charge times. Synthoceps, Peregrine, Wormgod Caress are all flavors of melee damage buffs, granted that fits Titans, but their not super innovative or anything. Take Hunter exotics for example. Yes, a lot of them are rather constrained/niche, but they do that niche super well. Athrys’s Embrace gives a melee bonus damage yes, but it also adds extra utility(Unstoppable stun) and further enhances the playstyle that melee offers (extra bounce). Why can’t other classes get that treatment more? Briarsbind is a perfect example of focusing on a single niche, and making it extremely worthwhile. Would love a change to something like Wormgod’s Caress that leans more into one melee, say bonk hammer, and allows you to call back you hammer, maybe make it able to stun a champion on initial impact.
I love how datto and Jez have very similar humor in there sponsors
Glaive also works with feedback so it's nice for glaive enthusiasts like myself
I’d bet Lucky Raspberry plus Delicate Tomb would be a good combo with the fragments that Jolts on grenade hit and spawn a Trave of Jolted enemy kill. Throw grenade to Jolt, kill the enemy for a Trace, get supercharged Tomb which does crazy damage, spreads Jolt everywhere, and self-sustains with reloads and Jolts on every hit after a Trace, giving grenade energy the entire time
I actually loved the high highs and low lows of Lucky raspberry.
Since the beginning of shadowkeep,
If you hit at least three targets,
you were always guaranteed a full charge.
I went through complete strikes,
constantly throwing grenades,
it was incredible.
It was high risk, high reward.
The Hallowfire Heart changes really feel like they were made to pair with Phoenix Cradle, even if you can't equip them together.
Chaining sunspots across the arena that your teammates can use for restoration and ability regen sounds like an AWESOME support type build and an alternative to pure bonking.
Please bungie, shove these changes into Phoenix Cradle and let Hallowfire Heart do its own thing (maybe bring back melting point for consecration? Pretty please?). It's not like it would be stronger than syntho bonk in 99% of senarios anyways, just let solar titan do something different for the first since season 15, c'mon.
Fun fact about Feedback Fence: It also gives you infinite Howl of the Storm melees with the right build. It may not be the best build on the market, but damn if it ain't fun!
Also, it's easier to proc.
Holy shit. I can't get over how funny your ad reads are. Genuinely, your ad reads are the only ones that I don't skip over.
Incase anyone is wondering, the infinite feedback fence strand loop was almost immediately patched out (No one I know can use it anymore)
I was a hollofireheart enjoyer
The moment I started (beyondlight Till solar 3.0 I would use nothing but that
First they took my subclass they utterly destroyer the way of the siegebreaker
And now they made an allready underwhelming even worse by just Adding the pre 3.0 subclass and removing the whole point of the exotic
I would've preferred it if they removed the increased regen when your super is charged vs the base ability regen it had before. (Hollowfire)
I missing so much my ONLY ABILITY BUILD with termite nades for every content cuz regen of hollowfire heart pre-beyond light was dope
My heart still cry out everytime ppl mention it.... They don't know how funny it was 😢❤
actually used to use foetracer as a quickswap exotic for final stands, and I loved the information and possibilities it provided in pvp
completely gutted by the fact that in order to have the same functionality I now have to grind out a knucklehead radar for it, as well as having to regrind a new foetracer for different styles of builds, need more strength for the whole whisper of impetus play on stasis hunter as well as better mobility for dodging to either just have another reload or to get another melee back faster
I agree. I think I’d use Hallowfire Heart if it did generate sunspots without having Sol Invictus equipped. It does make sense that Bungie doesn’t want us to have access to all 3 aspects at the same time, but I mean, Loreley works that way(take off sol invictus, the sunspot still generates).
Relating to the if you hit 4 targets it return grenade thing. If it gave half of the charge back, then you probably would be at full or near full when picking up an ionic trace
Feedback fence with a glaive is actually alot of fun. also feel like there is more shenanigans to be flushed out on top it with banner of war and /or vexcaliber
the acd/0 build also works with howl of the storm stasis titan for unlimited freezy boi crowd control, which is very silly. Loved the vid datto!
I think HH's rework should've been given to Phoenix Cradle, since it would benefit it more. In HH's case, I think it needs to mix well with solar 3.0 verbs. With the exception of granting increased ability energy while the super is full, it should allow solar abilites to apply a set amount of scorch and while the super is charged, it should increase the damage of scorch & increase ability regeneration.
AC/DC has some amazing interactions with void for the memes and moreso stasis for the endgame PVE activities. Take the flechette storm build and switch it over to stasis. You don’t need all the mods for a similar effect of a infinite melee when you run shards and howling storm with it. + it just feels really good. There’s a very nice mix of play from all ur abilities + gunplay that feels very satisfying yet effective. Papa Datto told me to tell you guys abt it
USe ACD with stasis, specifically the aspect for creating crystals on your slide attack. Lots of fun
I think a cool idea for Hallowfire would be: enemies scorched by your abilities explode into a bunch of smaller or less potent sunspots in a small/medium radius. Alternatively: enemies killed by your solar abilities explode for a % of their max hp, each enemy killed by said explosion gives % energy back.
Might have some balancing issues, but it's food for thought. I definitely hope we see more risk in future exotic reworks/creations.
AC DC feed back fence is really good at generating special ammo. by punching something to get them down to finisher you'll be able to finish them for special for your team and you. niche but could have a use case
I'm gonna be the aforementioned "Um actually" guy for Foetracer here. This is one of, if not the best exotic for Strand Hunter. And the reason is not the damage buff, but the guaranteed tangle. Being able to guarantee a tangle EXACTLY when you need it is a huge boon. It lets you keep uptime on your beyblades to a maximum and to its most efficient. Having 2-3 beyblades going at at time is absolutely wild, and then you get a very sizable damage buff on top of that as well. Everything is severed, everything is in a blender, and elite collapse like tissue paper.
i use it for solar, but agreed its actually insanely good
10:30 unless you're behemoth, but then you're behemoth
also imo flechette storm is the most fun with severance enclosure because it's really fun to yeet enemies into the air
Hallowfire buff is just a function of solar 2.0 being brought back. I used to use it to chain two tapping 120rpms or 3 tapping 180rpms in PvP. But radiant isn't enough to make this work as well.
I am the AC/D0 feedback fence enthusiasts. I’ve been loving it not even just on strand. I love the utility of being able to just have as much armor charge as I want and being able to dump all of those into any charge mod I deem appropriate. And I’m pvp it’s absolutely bananas, please try it if you haven’t
Same shit for Strongholds- used to be able to perfect parry things at range to heal as you closed distance, but alas...
Strongholds are bonkers, actually. Play it on Strand sometime, you are unkillable even without BoW (I did it in a few hard things last season). The trouble is mostly just justifying a sword in the first place.
Wondering how useful Feedback Fence would be with Special Finisher. Punch stuff up all the time to always have a stack of charges to make ammo for your team.
Feedback fences have the best use with strand melee build currently. You have even more damage resistance on top of woven mail. A GM unstoppable ogre slamming on you tickles at best, and jolts them for the team. Melee bosses become an absolute joke.
Also as you get armor charges per hit, this also means you get armor charges PER ENEMY hit and every hit of a multi hit melee, such as the strand grapple melee. A single good grapple melee can put you upwards of 3 armor charges instantly. A 5 charge feedback fence explosion is quite potent it turns out. And thanks to health orbs, a kill brings you back to full health. You are very, very hard to kill in the hardest modes of the game with this set up, especially if you get in everything's face and force them into melee animations.
update on foetracer in mid season of the wish: its actually quite good as a passive exotic. not a massive "exotic style effect" but actually quite good on solar and void with thier spamable melees
Iv actually been really turned off of Hallow Fire Heart since the rework. I enjoy general use Exotics that can work with most builds and that's what HFH was. I couldn't care less about sunspots, I just wanted my ability Regen lol
Hmmm it makes me wonder how the new Titan strand healing pulse would pair with Precious Scars?
Had a clanmate try it. Seems okay, but kinda redundant--Woven Mail and BOW healing is already enough for basically everything, so might as well use something with a bit more offensive punch.
3:55 bro got the switch and ps5 controller 🤣😂
I personally made some "variety builds" with the surge exotics just to play seasonal and relatively easy content and just level weapons or complete exotic catalysts
The fact that sunspots are so easy to make, and the sunspot internal cooldown make Hallowfire heart for me kinda bleh. I wish it had allowed me to make sunspots without the aspect, or allowed sunspots some additional function
hallofire heart makes sunspots do a small kabloomie at the end of the sunspot duration
What's worse is feedback fence didn't work on boss stomps last I tested.
I was NOT ready for the comedy of that Factor ad, top tier Datto content and one of the first Ad reads I haven't just double tap skipped over
Lucky Raspberry got me through the Vexcalibur mission solo, is very consistent now but I feel like getting rid of the the insta nade gain was unnecessary, it isn't like arcbolts deal a lot of damage so what damage could it do to get them more often?
Give us more multiple choice pop quizzes! It was fun even though I'm a warlock main and knew it immediately. And even as a warlock main, I used Prometheum Spur once for about 20 minutes and then never again.
If they brought back hollowfire's old ability as well as made it so killing enemies with sun spots and enemies while standing in a sun spots grant super energy, i mean the whole point of the exotic now is sun spot and ability spam, why not combine the 2 and keep a cooldown to balance it like it already has, i personally think that could work out better for the exotic
Hallowfire is a fun build with Tessellation to consume your grenade over and over. The new line of text barely does anything, but this is a source of passive regen that HOIL couldn't do.
I honestly like the Lucky Raspberry changes, even though when I play Arc Hunter I throw on a melee exotic and punch everything.
Having the option to throw an arcbolt grenade and Jolt 4 targets at once is pretty nice.
But I just don't think it holds a candle to the other Arc Hunter exotics. Give me Liar's Handshake or Assassin's Cowl and I'm good.
Hallowfire Heart, you said it best already; Solar Titans have so many exotics to choose from, including the new Burning Maul exotic, that Hallowfire Heart just isn't on anyone's priority list outside of fashion.
Me, I'm going Phoenix Cradle whenever I'm in a team, and Loreley when solo.
ACD/0 Feedback Fence, I legit haven't tried out.
Once the c-word DDoSing the servers steps on a lego and enters a righteous coma, I'll get back to you.
Edit: Tried out Feedback Fence, didn't notice it doing anything at all. I'm sticking with Synthos, thanks.
your svelte vocal threads always manage to get me to drift off. even prescription sleeping aids arent as effective. you sir, alongside Fallout Plays, have saved my sleep schedule on many an occasion. keep on providing excellent videos and info drops, and for me, sleep asmr! seriously though, really appreciate you and your content!
My thing is why use lucky raspberry when shinobu's vow exists? Those things have made GMs so insanely easy on hunter with just infinite skip grenades. Don't have to aim them, just toss them nearby and they find their way, and since there are 4 skips they proc the lightning on jolt so it stuns overloads consistently.
Datto continuing to have the best sponsored segments 🤣
The Hallow Fire heart nerf actually feels so bad. Losing out on free ability regen in leiu of... the same ability regen we had before without the exotic.
How I would have buffed it would be:
Increases ability regeneration, increases even further while you have full super energy. Sunspots deal more damage and apply more scorch, applying more while you have full super energy.
Feedback Fences are good honestly. If snything the armor charge system needs more stuff to make building into it more exciting.
Lucky Raspberry just needs 1 of 2 small changes. Either make arcbolts Jolt at base, or make arcbolt hits also return a small amount of energy. I like the second more since it leans into its previous fantasy of hitting a max chain to get your arcbolt back, but the first would work fine to free up a fragment slot.
Foetracer on solar hunter with arc and void surges on boots makes Two Tailed Fox obscene.
My favorite days are when Datto and Jez upload in the same day
I've been pretty much maining Foetracer on Strand with a Controlled Burst Nox Perennial FR and Tractor Canon for solo queueing.
You got Nox to drop?
When you mentioned Crota's end, my thought for ACD/0 was the first encounter! go strand titan with Banner, Monte Carlo and a glaive. should help with survivability and to keep the thralls off you
I do this, although wasn't using Monte Carlo or a glaive. Generally the last one going over the bridge solo, cause with banner of war keeping the healing going, there's basically no threat to me.
I just realized that Datto was olaying with a Joycon in one hand and a PS5 controller in other. I love it lol.
I have been enjoying the acd stasis build in casual pve content. It is nice for Titan to have a fun stasis build for once.
that is good fun
I use a feedback set up for the lanterns in crota and that’s about it. It’s pretty fun. Not the most optimal but it can be nice to use something different every now and then rather than the same old synthoceps strand or solar builds I tend to focus on
NGL knuckle head is so slept on. The information in PvP is so good, even better on void.
Where would be without this commercial and Datto in our lives.... starving, and without humor!