Carson Soucy just got a 1 game suspension for accidentally filling in McDavid's front end at the end of Game 3. That and more in today's NHL hockey video!
The NHL could gain a lot of credibility by having the refs explain the calls post game. As it stands no accountability, no punishment for poor performance and protection from any criticism. The fact "game management" is even an accpeted concept is an admission that the actual infraction is not what determines the call. And then there is Bettmann who has his fingers on the scale obviously.
That's a great idea. We all understand that the refs are human and they can't catch everything, but some calls just seem so damn obvious that they deserve and an explanation.
In theory it’s a great idea, but having everything explained/having an end of game report only makes things worse. Look at the nba, no matter what, one side gets more angry. Also I love your “commish controls everything” comment haha. Do you think the earth is flat too? The commish is literally just a face, like the president/prime minister. Having one man control something that big is an outrageous take. If there is any bias, it’s coming from the people behind him. But he’s also a face to blame so the others don’t have to be in the spotlight, so keep on doing what they want you to do lol.
@@killa2488Bettman is not just a face, he has a vision for how he sees the league and pushes policies to achieve that. A good example of this is the push in Arizona. So while I don’t think there is any direct interference in the outcomes I feel like there is a push to try to make the playoff games close scoring so there aren’t any blowout games
@@coleh9990 Smarter than you for sure. "You're" an idiot. Saying a goalie stopping 41 shots is good goaltending makes me a better at hockey than Draisaitl. Yeah, I play in the NHL too. Wow, stupid much? LMAO.
As a Canucks fan I don’t like the suspension but I can see the reasoning behind it, I think a fine would have been ok. The inconsistency is what gets fans ticked off. The hit on Marchand gets nothing (I am not shedding a tear about Marchand taking a hit), but that looked pretty bad and I think that the player should have had a hearing to try to explain it. The NHL suspended Soucy for the cross check and you have an Edmonton player do the same thing less than 10 seconds later and nada. I feel that if the officials called the games straight and called the penalties then the players wouldn’t feel like they have the ability to take matters into their own hands when players push the limits and get away with stuff. There is enough emotion in the games at this stage without having to artificially create more intensity by “just letting them play”
I'm not a fan of Marchand but I do think the NHL could have penalized Bennet after the fact. They DO review all hits and should have spotted the cheap shot. But the NHL and refs are cowards too afraid to make a call and effect the outcome of a game or series. Maybe if they had consistent officiating between the regular season and the playoffs fans would not be pissed. Not this "Let Them Play" bull crap. If something is a penalty during the regular season it should STILL be a penalty during the playoffs. Too much head hunting. If a team cannot win a series without injuring their opponents best players they don't deserve to win. And while I'm at it I believe if a goalie is completely out of the blue paint he should be fair game to be hit or run over.
@@Kokobazonkos maybe , because he drew blood and that the cut required stitches to close might have increased the suspension to 2 games for Hyman for his cross check to the face
I can’t recall a playoff season that’s been more brutally officiated than this one. Coming off of rangers, canes I saw multiple obvious penalties (on both teams) not called as well as easier calls like icing or high sticks missed. The refs have been absolutely brutal.
Honestly you’re right. As an Oilers fan, I can agree that the refs have been bad for oilers and canucks. Game two, mcdavid should’ve gotten a 4 minute high stick penelty eh?
Real, Canucks would've (in theory) won that if they got that penalty called but who knows, with the other missed calls in favour of the Oilers it maybe would've balanced out? But who knows. Terrible officiating. That missed call in the rangers game just now felt like it caused their downfall too. It is what it is rip@@hockeykid9176
Hughes Slew footed, Petterson boarded head first, hoglander speared in the nuts, Zadorov INTENTIONALLY cross checked in the face, no fines or suspension came from any of these plays and the most the Canucks got from these dirty plays was a 4on4
What game were you watching? That crosscheck they called on Nurse was the weakest shit call all game and all the analysts on the desk unanimously agreed. That penalty came gift wrapped with the victory as it lead to the 2 goal lead going into the third in what should have been a tighter game. You can bitch all you want about reffing, its abhorrent in the NHL, but you're so biased you don't even see all of the calls that never get called against your team and pretend there's a anti-vancouver conspiracy even though you have the refs to thanks for the win. Just stop
Oilers Fan here i honestly stopped watching the game for the most part after Canucks went up 3-1 in the 1st i just knew it was gonna be one of those games lol. I will say this, the Refs for both teams have been bad in this series i still Think McDavid should of Gotten that 4 min Double Minor back in game 2 and other non calls that the refs missed for both sides. honestly probably the worst things about the playoffs is stuff like this happening regardless of which team you cheer or cheer against or Series
Canucks fan here, and yeah the reffing has been atrocious. Vancouver has gotten away with lots, as has edm... likewise, both teams have also been called for super soft shit. This inconsistency is horrendous.
@@AtticsTV agreed wholeheartedly!! no matter how many times we talked about it or call them out for it they somehow find a way to get worse. makes me worried for both Teams heading into game 4
I'm a Canuck fan and I agree with you the officiating has been horrible and inconsistent across the NHL. It all boils down to the NHL BRASS having their favourite teams / players and decisions being made in favour of those in the "GOOD" book and those messages being drilled down to the officials of the games. Were there calls missed in this series by the refs, YES ... Will there be calls missed, YES ... Will there be incidents we thing should be called but weren't, YES As professional athletes stop whining and crying to the refs about something they missed and just get on with the game ... Let your skills do the talking I can see the incident at the end of Game 3 leading to a couple of fights in Game 4 - Edmonton Nurse & Kane Vancouver Zadorov & Miller
@@TCondaTube agreed!! use the missed calls as motivation and generate some scoring chances or prevent them. after watching what happened at the end of game 3 i could totally see those fights happen with those Players. i Feel game 4 is gonna get Ugly as Tensions is already at or past the breaking Point
Not really a fan of either team but rooting for Edmonton in this series but just want a Canadian team to win the cup. it's pretty sad that these games are coming down to reffing rather than merit. I want to see the best team win not the one the refs call more or let things slide. Reffing is garbage this series and it's really making it hard to watch.@@AtticsTV
I don’t have a problem with the Soucy suspension, but I do think Zadorov’s hit to Mcdavid’s back was worse. When I saw the play I thought, “the league has to do something about that.” I also think Hyman’s hit on Zadorov was worse than Soucy’s and, if you are going to suspend Soucy, you should probably suspend Hyman too since he did pretty much the same thing. The league didn’t suspend Hyman though, so it’ll have to be settled on the ice.
take a look at the tape again...Zadorov lands a punch to Hyman's face before any stick contact...Hyman couldn't see anything and you don't know if any contact would have even been made...it wasn't like Hyman went up to Zadorov and he didn't know he was there and clocked him...that is what Zadorov did to McDavid...just saying
@@TripleR_Sings I took your advice and watched the tape again, and now Hyman's crosscheck looks even worse than I remembered. Hyman was coming into the altercation with his stick raised, clearly to crosscheck Zadorov up high. To say Zadorov "lands a punch to Hyman's Face before any stick contact" and that I "don't know if any contact would have even been made" seems pretty ridiculous. Looks more like Zadorov was trying to block Hyman's crosscheck with his stick and had the stick knocked out of his hand after which Zadorov hit Hyman's face. The stick to Zadorov's face and hand to Hyman's face are pretty much simultaneous (within two frames of the video). To your other point that Zadorov hit an unaware McDavid in the back, yeah I said that in my original comment and said it was worse than what Soucy did. It's all just a bunch of escalating retaliations.
Depends on the player and the team it seems. Very inconsistent, there was 2 crosschecks to the face on that play and Soucy gets a game, Hyman gets a pass.
I’m a Canucks fan and I agree, It is unfair but as a player you have to take into account that the league will protect its star players. Although they may be less likely to intervene if (in this case) the oilers players defend McDavid themselves.
@@blanewilliams5960Take a look at the crosschecks bud! Can't even compare what McDavid got to the face compared to what Hyman did! Hyman barley hit him. The McDavid hit to the face was hard and clean!
If Soucy is a 1 game suspension, you can't not suspend the oiler player that intentionally went for Hoglander's gems. That's much more suspension worthy than the cross check
True, but more on the same page, Hyman cross checked Zadorov in the face INTENTIONALLY seconds after the accidental one by soucy. That’s absurd that he gets nothing. He’s the only one that deserved a suspension in the group for that scrum
I think it was cause it was at the end of the period/game, had it not been they wouldnt of cared as much. Would of been just a penalty and probably one for Soucy, McDavid and Zadarov so a 4 on 3 for Oilers but cause theres a rule for endgame shenanigans they call it much worse. Remember nurse got a suspension for fighting (2 years ago) at the end of the game yet his sparring partner didnt.
obvious? did you see the play? Zadorov punched Hyman in the face before contact was even made...who knows if Hyman would have even had made contact...so no, not obvious
I think its definitely suspension worthy. Soucy is responsible for not crosschecking opponents in the face, doesn't matter if that's where you were originally aiming, just don't crosscheck your opponent and you will never get them in the head. That being said: Hyman should be getting suspended as well.
There is a hierarchy in the NHL. Always has been. I remember in the 90s when Gretzky literally could skate over to a ref and influence a call - because he was the Great One. McDavid doesn't have the same aura because it's a different era, different circumstances and McDavid doesn't play south of the border. But he's still McDavid, widely regarded as the best player in the NHL and an ambassador for the game. The fact that there's even a debate as to whether or not you can cross check McDavid vs him cutting Quinn Hughes and drawing blood and the artificial controversy surrounding all of that tells you the league doesn't really care about having a standard for officiating league wide. They want 2 fan bases to argue over this stuff so we're not talking about the real issues. Both fanbases are victims here, but they're too busy arguing over who got favoured by the officials to deal with the real issues. It's an age old political tactic - divide and conquer.
A high stick drawing blood isn't a suspension it's a double minor. We can also bring up how Zadorof high sticked Hyman in front of the net period one too. Yes McDavid should have been called for it but it's not the same as getting cross checked in the face and lower back simultaneously.
If anything, it should be a suspension for Zadorov, not Soucy. Soucy is already engaged with McDavid and both are going after each other. Soucy goes for an innocent cross-check that just ends up hitting McDavid in the face, because Zadorov comes late to the party and decides to cross-check McDavid in the back for no reason. Soucy's cross-check is nothing special in the context of the scrum. Zadorov's is at least worth a penalty.
As a Canucks fan, I'm fine with the one game suspension. It is what it is and was likely deserved. What I'm not fine with is nobody from the Oilers even getting a fine, especially Hyman for the crosscheck to the head of Zadorov.
Exactly, if you're handing that suspension to Soucy then you need to do the same to Hyman. If anything I believe Hyman's check was worse as he clearly had the intent to hit Zadorov in the head unlike Soucy.
Goal posts are actually a sign of good goaltending. A goalie is supposed to come forward to block the angles. When done right, the player is forced to aim at the edge of the net
Shouldnt have been a suspension. Mcdavid instigated a response and got caught unintentionally up high because of it. Suspension are suppose to be for when their is an intent to injure. If thats not the case how on earth is sam bennett not getting punished for his "Accidental" punch that took marchand out for multiple games?
Honestly shocked to see this of all things getting someone suspended. Not Sam Bennett's suckering Marchand, not Brandon Montour's crosscheck to Nikita Kucherov, it's just this. George Parros, why?
I feel like every ref in the NHL should be fired, and the NHL should just start fresh with a new roster of refs. this keeps happening and it's a major fucking problem
Soucys suspension is 100% fine but I think it wasn’t meant to hit is face because it looked like he was aiming for the chest area and if anything zadorav should get a suspension for the cross check to the back and hyman should get suspended as well for his cross check to the face
The worst part about officiating in the playoffs is you never know when the whistles will go in the pockets of the refs and when they will come out. They can't seem to decide if it's playoff hockey or not. Super frustrating I'm an oilers fan and agree there have been some missed calls. I would tune in every night if they had a referee press conference to explain the controversial calls.
Seriously the NHL is going to have an injury problem by the end of this cup finals. Too many uncalled dirty plays that are ending in actual injuries so far. Not even into the third round yet, this might get ugly if the NHL doesn't get a grip on the calls.
We already do. Every time a team is eliminated we see the list of players who played with broken ribs and whatnot. It's been like this forever, it's not changing any time soon.
I can understand canucks fans frustration with the suspension, but I can also understand the punishment. Had he not done it with his stick, and simply pushed mcdavid with his hands, it likely wouldn't have likely been a suspension. And tbh I think Zadorov's cross check is the one worthy of suspension for endangering a completely oblivious opponent. There was nothing between him and McDavid, it was a cross check to an unsuspecting player, which is far more commonly dangerous than someone taking pushes and shoves from someone in front of them, and the horn had already gone.
If they won’t give McDavid a fine for the high stick or Kane a 1-2 for the slew foot then they can’t give Soucy anything either didn’t give Bennet anything so
@zackh4432 lmao so he should get fined for Hughes being 5’7 and leaning in? Hughes is a baby for turning on hit maybe go shoulder shoulder instead of turning lol?
@@erikalbertson3026 lol a slew foot is when u skate next to someone and kick there feet out without hitting them.Kane hit baby Hughes as he was turning im sorry ur midget captain is 160 lbs. he deadass turns into a ballerina as he initiates contact turns instead of taking the hit.
@@Brownboy1313 what hit? There was no "hit" coming except McDavid swinging his stick upwards into the face of another player, the fact Hughes is a few inches shorter has zero relevancy.
Man taking Draisaitl's comments out of context is just brutal reporting. It was a stupid question Drai was responding to. He was not criticizing Silovs, and Vancouver. You must have no watched the whole clip... He is saying his team missing the net has nothing to do with goaltending. A post doesn't count as a shot.
I don't think there should have been any suspensions. I think $5000 all around would be fine. But now that they've suspended Soucy, and fined Zadorov the league looks ridiculous for not even looking at Hyman's actions.
i dont think soucy meant for a headshot... but i can understand why hes suspended. you cant cross check the league's golden boy in the face... it just cant happen
Intentional cross check to the face by Hyman. No suspension. Unintentional cross check to the face by Soucy. Suspension. Very logical decision making. 😂
honestly the suspension is fair my only real complaint of all that was the no suspension on hyman for that ending crosscheck on zadorov which was purposeful and actually drew blood. overall though the canucks this game had better ref luck which makes up for game 2 though this series is starting to get ugly and im sure hughes and pettersson and zadorov will be the targets of the oilers big guys so petterson and hughes better watch out
@@jacksonjacob7791how can it be unintentional when he chose to raise his stick to someone’s face? you never played hockey if u think a shin pad wack with padding is same as carbon fiber to the face?unless u have a women brain. 😂
I don't believe suspensions should solely be based on intent. The fact remains that if you go to make a crosscheck after a match, when nothing is on the line, unforeseen outcomes can happen, including crosschecking a player in the head. There's no reason to take that risk. So now that you've learned that a suspension can be the outcome, you may be less likely to lash out at the end of a game, and players are less likely to be injured. That being said, I don't think this will change much. This doesn't fix the Oilers goal tending problem, so the Canuks will still be the team to get eliminated in the conference finals.
Hymen with the cross check to the head as well but didnt get a suspension... or the intent to injure low blow in the previous game with no suspension...
McDavid is under the protection of the league. He is the poster boy who can do no wrong! He always whines to the ref about every play and the ref listens!
McDavid is a superstar, Marchand is a super pain in the ass . Bennett is a mirror image of Marchand, and the timing of the cross-check sandwich is what gives the bad optics . 1 game is whatever . SINCE we are talking about cheap shots , what about McDavid high sticking Quin Hughes to the face and drawing blood and no secondary punishment?
In theory, I'm not too upset that Soucy got suspended. Cross checking people in the face shouldn't just be allowed after all I just would like to know where Department of Player Safety was after Game 2
That's ridiculous. Slashing anyone after the whistle shouldn't be allowed either. The only difference is the slash was intentional. Soucy unintentionally crosschecked dude in the face. Because his face was suddenly where his chest was a split second earlier
Yeah they were dog shit tbh the whole series. They just got a couple bounces the first few games. They’re gonna lose I swear I’ll never watch another game. 30 years of being a fan of this team I’m so done.
@whitegd4100 Stop. We were up 3-0, we have a couple cracks at it. If we win the series next game you'll be right back on the wagon calling them "true contenders". I don't get when fans literally lose ALL hope after 1 or 2 losses in a SERIES. We made the mistake of trying not to lose with a 1-0 lead instead of playing to win. I'm sure they'll take note and head to Carolina with a totally different mindset and the 2 days off should help alot with the sluggishness. They are STILL contenders... but don't forget Carolina were literally favorites to win the Cup headed into the playoffs. Nobody said this was going to be an easy series. Chilllll. Relax and see what happens game 6 before you and the rest of the doom and gloom crowd start to come out with the pitchforks ready to roast Artemi and the rest of the boys. This is why so many other fanbases can't stand us Rangers fans. When things are good the fanbase is allll about them. When there's a slight bump in the road everyone wants everyone's heads and the noise becomes a detriment to the team. No wonder we can never find any real consistency.
So running the goalie is a insignificant fine, and a highstick to the face is nothing, and the slash is nothing, but this crosscheck is a suspension? The nhl needs to stop playing roulette with this sorta stuff.
The suspension for Soucy is tough, but the player has to be responsible for their stick, his stick nailed McD in the face. By that same logic, Hyman should also be suspended on game for having his stick hit Z on the side of the head. I'm still amazed Darnel Nurse got away with ramming Pettersen head-first into the boards, folding him in half, then cross-checking him on the back of the head. the NHL needs to step in and settle this stuff down.
I, along with most Canucks fans I think, have little problem with the suspension itself, but with the lack of consistency. It seems like the Oilers can do anything they like to us, but if we do those same things it's not ok. If Soucy is suspended, fine, but Hyman did literally the exact same thing three seconds later and gets nothing. If the standard is that Soucy deserves a suspension, then they should uphold that standard and suspend Hyman too.
It literally doesnt matter what you think of marchand and his history, that sucker punch was extremely dirty and deserves a massive suspension. We cant let things slide based on who we do or dont like. Thats unacceptable period.
Having read the DoPS explanation on how Soucy's hit was "not a hockey play" and how they fined Big Zed...how does Hyman not get at least a fine? Cross check to the head after the whistle...its all the same. THIS is why fans are so sick and tired of the DoPS. ZERO consistency.
The Nucks got away with a lot of cross checks that game probably as the refs were trying to make up for the missed McDavid high stick on Hughes. It's a shame that officiating and league discipline is such a huge factor in playoff games. I'm glad to hear that McDavid was not seriously hurt.
Everyone should be treated equally. Your status as a star player is irrelevant. if your going to suspend Soucy for an accidental stick to the chin (like McDavid moved his head in the way, albeit with Big Z's help), then why not suspend Hyman for the intentional high stick to the head of Big Z. The latter drew blood and required stiches (so I hear). The former did neither. And McDavid gets away with what could be called an intentional high stick to Hughs, no call, no penalty, no repercussions. Ref's call the game the way it is supposed to be, regardless of the player. Player and fans will be much happier. If the McDavid-Hughs thing was reversed, do we not think there would have been a huddle/review from Hockey Central. Why no huddle, 4 refs on the ice and no-one saw it, come on.
I agree with your equally comment, but watch the tape again on the Hyman alleged contact...did you not see the punch he took to the face just as he was coming in? this was before any stick contact...so it wasn't that Hyman went directly in with a high cross check...in fact I don't think Hyman could see Zadorov once the punch landed
I don’t think Draisaitl was knocking the other teams goalie with that comment rather he was saying “we can’t just blame a good goaltender we need to put some pu is away”.
I think the only fair thing for the NHL to do at this point is let fans decide what fines and suspensions to hand out. We all seem quite level headed and unbiased.
Not two seconds after the retaliatory cross check by Soucy, Hyman gets Zadorov up high with one as well, and Zadorov got cut and needed stitches. Everything else from other games aside, if Soucy has to sit for an accidental high cross check, then Hyman definitely has to sit for one too. (Depending on who you ask, Hyman's infraction might even be worse, considering the height of Zadorov makes it much harder to cross check him in the head amby accident)
I always love the ref argument from fans. No matter what they call or don't call, people are mad. People want the refs to let them play, then complain about calls not being made. The refs make a call, then people cry rigged if a pp goal is scored and blame the NHL for a ref problem. Fans are the problem, not the refs.
OK, Oilers fan here so take it with a grain of salt, but the officiating in this series has been horrendous. I don't think it has been biased because I don't think either team has benefited really. It has been easier to predict penalties based on the score and the pace of play than on actual infractions. The miss on McDavid's high stick was a big one, but it just seems like a total crapshoot of what gets called and what doesn't. When the Oilers have good sustained pressure, they seem to get really weak calls against them. On the flip side, when Vancouver is leading, the Oilers are getting away with a few. The suspension is a tough one. I really thought it would be a fine because as Ek said it was more of a series of unfortunate events. But in the end, if you cross check a guy in the mouth like that after the game, there has to be something (I understand if he wasn't falling it wouldn't hit there). I don't care if the call it tight or let them play (though I'd prefer tight because that gives my team the advantage). What I really hate though is the game management. After the Oilers 2nd power play goal, I knew that they were not going to get another call for a long time. Weak call against them led to Vancouver's 2nd and then all of a sudden Edmonton gets a few calls going their way. Just call the infractions and don't worry about the score.
Canucks fan and I agree with you for the most part, it seems that the league wants close scoring games. Apparently the Hyman cross check to the head of Zadorov, less than 10 seconds after, was bad enough that he needed stitches to close the cut - no call, no supplemental discipline a thing like that are what leaves fans questioning the integrity of the league
Oh really? I didn’t hear about the stitches. I thought it was a fairly light cross check but it was needlessly high. I think that type usually doesn’t result in supplemental disciple but I’m sure with the other one getting 1 game it is a hard pill to swallow.
Look I’m an Oilers fan and I’m not saying this because I hate Vancouver but the series has been bias to Vancouver. I’ve notice the Refs don’t want to put the Oilers on the power play because it’s good and this is where I get mad it’s the refs dictating the outcome of these games. If the Canucks take a penalty they should be punished by the Oilers power play. I don’t like the whole argument of they are letting them play no they are deciding on what they want to call and what they don’t want to call. The NHL is always looking at ways to speed up the games well maybe schedule the games better maybe don’t start the season late like why did the season start midway through October. If the game is slowed down by penalties then so be it. Ive seen many times where a penalty is not called then the other team gets called on the same penalty that wasn’t called earlier then they get scored on. So annoying.
The stick work in the NHL keeps evolving with none of it acceptable. One game for that cross check is bs. Does a career have to end before they get it??? Using your stick with 2 hands on it to hit someone anywhere at anytime should be called and progressively punished. You can bodycheck, push n shove all without a weapon. It's out of control.
I think both teams have been shifted by the refs this series. the officials have been calling cross checking and slashing penalties like crazy and then missing high sticking/too many men/interference calls that are obvious. Pretty disappointing
Love how this guy calls Hyman a "dirty little rat intentionally inviting himself into the scrum" but has nothing to say about Zadorov who did the same thing seconds earlier. Your bias is showing bro
Hyman aimed at Zadorovs head and connects on the crosscheck. That shouldve been 1 game if Soucys is 1. Soucy wasnt aiming for the head, Hyman was. The difference is that McDavid is more valuable to the league so the league will protect him. And if the league suspended Hyman then the Oil would only have 4 useful players.
McD coulda skated away the game was over, but no he had to stop and golf swing chop the Canucks D. McD is 100% at fault for everything he got. When you stop to chirp in the middle of 4 Canucks and then try and be dirty what you think is gonna happen.
@@GreenBeanGreenBeanlmao then if someone slashes your stick a little to rough you can punch them? so then Hughes deserved to get cut for being 5’7 ? U silly woman a shin pad wack with padding is nothing compared to carbon fiber to the face..lmao ur brain can’t decipher the two🤣
They should suspend Cole for being a secret oiler agent lol.
He’s got 3 goals! Yeah sure. For the other team but I mean still, 3 goals!
Barely even a joke
Facts
Geez. I thought I was only one complaining about this. He's redirected 3 goals into the Canuck net in this series, alone. Ugh.
It’s like the oilers player shot it at cole knowing good things happen when you shoot the puck at cole
The NHL could gain a lot of credibility by having the refs explain the calls post game.
As it stands no accountability, no punishment for poor performance and protection from any criticism.
The fact "game management" is even an accpeted concept is an admission that the actual infraction is not what determines the call.
And then there is Bettmann who has his fingers on the scale obviously.
That's a great idea. We all understand that the refs are human and they can't catch everything, but some calls just seem so damn obvious that they deserve and an explanation.
In theory it’s a great idea, but having everything explained/having an end of game report only makes things worse. Look at the nba, no matter what, one side gets more angry.
Also I love your “commish controls everything” comment haha. Do you think the earth is flat too? The commish is literally just a face, like the president/prime minister. Having one man control something that big is an outrageous take. If there is any bias, it’s coming from the people behind him. But he’s also a face to blame so the others don’t have to be in the spotlight, so keep on doing what they want you to do lol.
Dude I would love if the press conference had the refs after the game would be way more interesting then what we get right now
@@unforgivengaming8793 honestly that's such a good idea
@@killa2488Bettman is not just a face, he has a vision for how he sees the league and pushes policies to achieve that. A good example of this is the push in Arizona.
So while I don’t think there is any direct interference in the outcomes I feel like there is a push to try to make the playoff games close scoring so there aren’t any blowout games
Seeing Kane's smirk and smile quickly fade when he realized the oilers also got a penalty LOL
For real! I loved it
Priceless
He thought he was really clever getting dumped into the bench like that.
The same thing probably happened when he realized domestic abuse wasn't allowed
That was awesomeeeee
I love that Kevin Bieksa single handedly changed his nickname to “big zed”
zed's dead.
Goal posts aren't good goaltending, but stopping 41 shots is. LMAO.
Goalposts aren't good shooting either
wow, your probably smarter and better at hockey than draisatial LMAO
@@coleh9990 Smarter than you for sure. "You're" an idiot. Saying a goalie stopping 41 shots is good goaltending makes me a better at hockey than Draisaitl. Yeah, I play in the NHL too. Wow, stupid much? LMAO.
Yeah. Draisaitl gave Silovs credit for making big saves a whole 30 seconds after saying the post comment
I took that as the reporter just asking a dumb question and led to leon saying that.
As a Canucks fan I don’t like the suspension but I can see the reasoning behind it, I think a fine would have been ok.
The inconsistency is what gets fans ticked off.
The hit on Marchand gets nothing (I am not shedding a tear about Marchand taking a hit), but that looked pretty bad and I think that the player should have had a hearing to try to explain it.
The NHL suspended Soucy for the cross check and you have an Edmonton player do the same thing less than 10 seconds later and nada.
I feel that if the officials called the games straight and called the penalties then the players wouldn’t feel like they have the ability to take matters into their own hands when players push the limits and get away with stuff.
There is enough emotion in the games at this stage without having to artificially create more intensity by “just letting them play”
Just letting them play? Obviously Canucks is not one of "Thems" lmfao
the NHL rule book states esentially if a player takes a 5min major in the last 5min or less of a game it's an automatic fine and 1 game suspension
I'm not a fan of Marchand but I do think the NHL could have penalized Bennet after the fact. They DO review all hits and should have spotted the cheap shot. But the NHL and refs are cowards too afraid to make a call and effect the outcome of a game or series. Maybe if they had consistent officiating between the regular season and the playoffs fans would not be pissed. Not this "Let Them Play" bull crap. If something is a penalty during the regular season it should STILL be a penalty during the playoffs. Too much head hunting. If a team cannot win a series without injuring their opponents best players they don't deserve to win. And while I'm at it I believe if a goalie is completely out of the blue paint he should be fair game to be hit or run over.
@@Kokobazonkos maybe , because he drew blood and that the cut required stitches to close might have increased the suspension to 2 games for Hyman for his cross check to the face
@@michaelold6695If I folded McDavid after the game ended, I’d consider myself fortunate a stick to face is all I got. Just hockey justice
I can’t recall a playoff season that’s been more brutally officiated than this one. Coming off of rangers, canes I saw multiple obvious penalties (on both teams) not called as well as easier calls like icing or high sticks missed. The refs have been absolutely brutal.
That's called recency bias!!
It’s like this every year regular season and playoffs…
2011 was worse
Montreal v Vegas 2021 was pretty bad
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It's because Vegas isn't in it anymore so they're all fucked up trying to figure which games are going to make them the most money.
Ref are deciding these games more than the player's skill.
Honestly you’re right. As an Oilers fan, I can agree that the refs have been bad for oilers and canucks. Game two, mcdavid should’ve gotten a 4 minute high stick penelty eh?
Real, Canucks would've (in theory) won that if they got that penalty called but who knows, with the other missed calls in favour of the Oilers it maybe would've balanced out? But who knows. Terrible officiating. That missed call in the rangers game just now felt like it caused their downfall too. It is what it is rip@@hockeykid9176
Yeah the refs are atrocious
@@hockeykid9176 its been like that all season idk why were now discussing this 😂😂😂
@@TiggaTrey no I knew this. Honestly it’s been like this for past few years
Hughes Slew footed, Petterson boarded head first, hoglander speared in the nuts, Zadorov INTENTIONALLY cross checked in the face, no fines or suspension came from any of these plays and the most the Canucks got from these dirty plays was a 4on4
add the McDavid high stick to Quinn Hughes face, nothing called
What game were you watching? That crosscheck they called on Nurse was the weakest shit call all game and all the analysts on the desk unanimously agreed. That penalty came gift wrapped with the victory as it lead to the 2 goal lead going into the third in what should have been a tighter game.
You can bitch all you want about reffing, its abhorrent in the NHL, but you're so biased you don't even see all of the calls that never get called against your team and pretend there's a anti-vancouver conspiracy even though you have the refs to thanks for the win. Just stop
the oilers are almost out of dirty tricks... they will try silovs next, we need to be on guard.
Talk about the game the videos about buddy
@@spacebar4509 talk about how dirty ur team is bud
Oilers Fan here i honestly stopped watching the game for the most part after Canucks went up 3-1 in the 1st i just knew it was gonna be one of those games lol.
I will say this, the Refs for both teams have been bad in this series i still Think McDavid should of Gotten that 4 min Double Minor back in game 2 and other non calls that the refs missed for both sides.
honestly probably the worst things about the playoffs is stuff like this happening regardless of which team you cheer or cheer against or Series
Canucks fan here, and yeah the reffing has been atrocious. Vancouver has gotten away with lots, as has edm... likewise, both teams have also been called for super soft shit. This inconsistency is horrendous.
@@AtticsTV agreed wholeheartedly!! no matter how many times we talked about it or call them out for it they somehow find a way to get worse. makes me worried for both Teams heading into game 4
I'm a Canuck fan and I agree with you the officiating has been horrible and inconsistent across the NHL.
It all boils down to the NHL BRASS having their favourite teams / players and decisions being made in favour of those in the "GOOD" book and those messages being drilled down to the officials of the games.
Were there calls missed in this series by the refs, YES ... Will there be calls missed, YES ... Will there be incidents we thing should be called but weren't, YES
As professional athletes stop whining and crying to the refs about something they missed and just get on with the game ... Let your skills do the talking
I can see the incident at the end of Game 3 leading to a couple of fights in Game 4 - Edmonton Nurse & Kane Vancouver Zadorov & Miller
@@TCondaTube agreed!! use the missed calls as motivation and generate some scoring chances or prevent them.
after watching what happened at the end of game 3 i could totally see those fights happen with those Players. i Feel game 4 is gonna get Ugly as Tensions is already at or past the breaking Point
Not really a fan of either team but rooting for Edmonton in this series but just want a Canadian team to win the cup. it's pretty sad that these games are coming down to reffing rather than merit. I want to see the best team win not the one the refs call more or let things slide. Reffing is garbage this series and it's really making it hard to watch.@@AtticsTV
I don’t have a problem with the Soucy suspension, but I do think Zadorov’s hit to Mcdavid’s back was worse. When I saw the play I thought, “the league has to do something about that.” I also think Hyman’s hit on Zadorov was worse than Soucy’s and, if you are going to suspend Soucy, you should probably suspend Hyman too since he did pretty much the same thing. The league didn’t suspend Hyman though, so it’ll have to be settled on the ice.
As far as McDavid goes…. Fuck around and find out….he did. Thats hockey.
I think McDavids big windup should be getting a fine he almost hit him in the hand/wrist
take a look at the tape again...Zadorov lands a punch to Hyman's face before any stick contact...Hyman couldn't see anything and you don't know if any contact would have even been made...it wasn't like Hyman went up to Zadorov and he didn't know he was there and clocked him...that is what Zadorov did to McDavid...just saying
@@TripleR_Sings Hyman is about half a foot shorter, he purposely brought his stick up with both hands to Zadorov's face. Inexcusable.
@@TripleR_Sings I took your advice and watched the tape again, and now Hyman's crosscheck looks even worse than I remembered. Hyman was coming into the altercation with his stick raised, clearly to crosscheck Zadorov up high. To say Zadorov "lands a punch to Hyman's Face before any stick contact" and that I "don't know if any contact would have even been made" seems pretty ridiculous. Looks more like Zadorov was trying to block Hyman's crosscheck with his stick and had the stick knocked out of his hand after which Zadorov hit Hyman's face. The stick to Zadorov's face and hand to Hyman's face are pretty much simultaneous (within two frames of the video).
To your other point that Zadorov hit an unaware McDavid in the back, yeah I said that in my original comment and said it was worse than what Soucy did. It's all just a bunch of escalating retaliations.
I’m an oilers fan, but it’s bullshit that star players have different rules than the rest of the league.
They don't
Depends on the player and the team it seems.
Very inconsistent, there was 2 crosschecks to the face on that play and Soucy gets a game, Hyman gets a pass.
I’m a Canucks fan and I agree, It is unfair but as a player you have to take into account that the league will protect its star players.
Although they may be less likely to intervene if (in this case) the oilers players defend McDavid themselves.
This shows that the league is a business and should be treated that way.In other words,grow up.
@@blanewilliams5960Take a look at the crosschecks bud! Can't even compare what McDavid got to the face compared to what Hyman did! Hyman barley hit him. The McDavid hit to the face was hard and clean!
I never understood why people hate McDavid whining behaviour. Now I know why
If Soucy is a 1 game suspension, you can't not suspend the oiler player that intentionally went for Hoglander's gems. That's much more suspension worthy than the cross check
a mistaken, wrong-place-wrong time crosscheck at that
True, but more on the same page, Hyman cross checked Zadorov in the face INTENTIONALLY seconds after the accidental one by soucy. That’s absurd that he gets nothing. He’s the only one that deserved a suspension in the group for that scrum
I think it was cause it was at the end of the period/game, had it not been they wouldnt of cared as much. Would of been just a penalty and probably one for Soucy, McDavid and Zadarov so a 4 on 3 for Oilers but cause theres a rule for endgame shenanigans they call it much worse. Remember nurse got a suspension for fighting (2 years ago) at the end of the game yet his sparring partner didnt.
Obviously not 😂 and try taking off your Canucks goggles. You'll be able see more clearly
@@joshmo5595Habs fan here. that was much more malicious get your eyes checked Big.
Got a new nickname for Boeser: “Soapy” because he gets rid of Oil.
what are you talking about mcdavid is boeser's father bro lol
Why wasn’t Hyman suspended for his obvious cross check to Zadorov’s head?
obvious? did you see the play? Zadorov punched Hyman in the face before contact was even made...who knows if Hyman would have even had made contact...so no, not obvious
I think its definitely suspension worthy. Soucy is responsible for not crosschecking opponents in the face, doesn't matter if that's where you were originally aiming, just don't crosscheck your opponent and you will never get them in the head. That being said: Hyman should be getting suspended as well.
There is a hierarchy in the NHL. Always has been. I remember in the 90s when Gretzky literally could skate over to a ref and influence a call - because he was the Great One. McDavid doesn't have the same aura because it's a different era, different circumstances and McDavid doesn't play south of the border. But he's still McDavid, widely regarded as the best player in the NHL and an ambassador for the game. The fact that there's even a debate as to whether or not you can cross check McDavid vs him cutting Quinn Hughes and drawing blood and the artificial controversy surrounding all of that tells you the league doesn't really care about having a standard for officiating league wide. They want 2 fan bases to argue over this stuff so we're not talking about the real issues. Both fanbases are victims here, but they're too busy arguing over who got favoured by the officials to deal with the real issues. It's an age old political tactic - divide and conquer.
A high stick drawing blood isn't a suspension it's a double minor. We can also bring up how Zadorof high sticked Hyman in front of the net period one too. Yes McDavid should have been called for it but it's not the same as getting cross checked in the face and lower back simultaneously.
Ian Cole just can't stop scoring on his own net
Helluva goal getter for the Oilers since Gretzky
@@ericahn1627 Gole
How is Hyman's crosscheck a rat move when Zadorov did the exact same thing, double teaming another player?
NHL wants the Oilers to be a thing. Oilers so far have said thanks no thanks. Betting it will happen again.
If anything, it should be a suspension for Zadorov, not Soucy. Soucy is already engaged with McDavid and both are going after each other. Soucy goes for an innocent cross-check that just ends up hitting McDavid in the face, because Zadorov comes late to the party and decides to cross-check McDavid in the back for no reason. Soucy's cross-check is nothing special in the context of the scrum. Zadorov's is at least worth a penalty.
Also why did Hyman crosschecked was not given the same punishment
As a Canucks fan, I'm fine with the one game suspension. It is what it is and was likely deserved. What I'm not fine with is nobody from the Oilers even getting a fine, especially Hyman for the crosscheck to the head of Zadorov.
fr bro, luckily zadorov didnt get suspended.
@@DeathGamingOfficialYT zadorkov should've gotten a game, Soucy only made contact with McDavids face because of zadorkov
Zadorov is a pure weasel Only Russians hot from behind!! Get Quinn to bring his health care card he’s gone need it after game 4
Exactly, if you're handing that suspension to Soucy then you need to do the same to Hyman. If anything I believe Hyman's check was worse as he clearly had the intent to hit Zadorov in the head unlike Soucy.
Next game Hyman will WISH he was suspended!!
Goal posts are actually a sign of good goaltending. A goalie is supposed to come forward to block the angles. When done right, the player is forced to aim at the edge of the net
Shouldnt have been a suspension. Mcdavid instigated a response and got caught unintentionally up high because of it. Suspension are suppose to be for when their is an intent to injure. If thats not the case how on earth is sam bennett not getting punished for his "Accidental" punch that took marchand out for multiple games?
NHL should also have given fines to Edmonton. This is way too one sided from DoPS.
One other note, since they legalized sports betting, the refs are worse than ever..huh..imagine that?
Said similar last year and was mostly ignored. Interestingly, it's been especially bad since Vegas got eliminated.
I’ve said it a thousand times, eventually someone is going to lose a major bet and a massive investigation / lawsuit will happen
Corruption exists in every aspect of society where there is money to be made ( or some sort of benefit)
Sad but true.
@@RickL_was_hererevisionist history. People have bitching about the refs for over a decade.
@@KyleMacSkill For over half a century.
Honestly shocked to see this of all things getting someone suspended. Not Sam Bennett's suckering Marchand, not Brandon Montour's crosscheck to Nikita Kucherov, it's just this. George Parros, why?
If soucy gets suspended, hyman should for his cross check to zadorov right after, cut him, required stitches.
He punched Hyman in the face before that cross check
@@ryans413 doesn't negate a cross check to to head. Inexcusable.
I feel like every ref in the NHL should be fired, and the NHL should just start fresh with a new roster of refs. this keeps happening and it's a major fucking problem
Nucks have to beat the oilers, the refs and the league. Nucks will do it though.
Soucys suspension is 100% fine but I think it wasn’t meant to hit is face because it looked like he was aiming for the chest area and if anything zadorav should get a suspension for the cross check to the back and hyman should get suspended as well for his cross check to the face
Exactly. I think the Canucks fans should be happy with this s they didn't lose 2 dmen.
So an accidental head crosscheck is 1 game but an intentional one is not even a fine hmmmm
The worst part about officiating in the playoffs is you never know when the whistles will go in the pockets of the refs and when they will come out. They can't seem to decide if it's playoff hockey or not. Super frustrating
I'm an oilers fan and agree there have been some missed calls.
I would tune in every night if they had a referee press conference to explain the controversial calls.
Pretty sure zad got stitches after the hyman scrum
maybe it'll improve his looks
nope
Seriously the NHL is going to have an injury problem by the end of this cup finals. Too many uncalled dirty plays that are ending in actual injuries so far. Not even into the third round yet, this might get ugly if the NHL doesn't get a grip on the calls.
We already do. Every time a team is eliminated we see the list of players who played with broken ribs and whatnot.
It's been like this forever, it's not changing any time soon.
This by far is the most troubling thing. They’ve lost control of the game and every team is getting away with dirty, gross hits
Go watch the NFL if you like pussy sports
I am ok with the Soucy suspension… but explain to my why Hyman gets nothing ???
I can understand canucks fans frustration with the suspension, but I can also understand the punishment. Had he not done it with his stick, and simply pushed mcdavid with his hands, it likely wouldn't have likely been a suspension. And tbh I think Zadorov's cross check is the one worthy of suspension for endangering a completely oblivious opponent. There was nothing between him and McDavid, it was a cross check to an unsuspecting player, which is far more commonly dangerous than someone taking pushes and shoves from someone in front of them, and the horn had already gone.
Hymans a "dirty little rat" for sticking up for his teammate that just got crosschecked in the teeth?
If they won’t give McDavid a fine for the high stick or Kane a 1-2 for the slew foot then they can’t give Soucy anything either didn’t give Bennet anything so
@zackh4432 lmao so he should get fined for Hughes being 5’7 and leaning in? Hughes is a baby for turning on hit maybe go shoulder shoulder instead of turning lol?
Bro Hughes a dogshit compared to mcdavid. No way u actually support lil man syndrome
@@Brownboy1313maybe don’t swipe your feet behind his skates (slewfooting ) but ya that should of been a game suspension for that
@@erikalbertson3026 lol a slew foot is when u skate next to someone and kick there feet out without hitting them.Kane hit baby Hughes as he was turning im sorry ur midget captain is 160 lbs. he deadass turns into a ballerina as he initiates contact turns instead of taking the hit.
@@Brownboy1313 what hit? There was no "hit" coming except McDavid swinging his stick upwards into the face of another player, the fact Hughes is a few inches shorter has zero relevancy.
Man taking Draisaitl's comments out of context is just brutal reporting. It was a stupid question Drai was responding to. He was not criticizing Silovs, and Vancouver. You must have no watched the whole clip... He is saying his team missing the net has nothing to do with goaltending. A post doesn't count as a shot.
He’s still called Crysaitl for a reason. He complains about everything when he doesn’t get his way
Yeah agreed
@@GWh135 most innovative insult cry[surname].
The full comment is still complete discrediting lmao
Yeah but in context to me it seems salty towards the reporter, not targeting silovs.@@headintheclouds6935
Props to Evander Kane's dentist team for having those pearly whites as shiny as a queen's pearls.
I don't think there should have been any suspensions. I think $5000 all around would be fine. But now that they've suspended Soucy, and fined Zadorov the league looks ridiculous for not even looking at Hyman's actions.
i dont think soucy meant for a headshot... but i can understand why hes suspended. you cant cross check the league's golden boy in the face... it just cant happen
Fair enough that is super dangerous
Intentional cross check to the face by Hyman. No suspension.
Unintentional cross check to the face by Soucy. Suspension.
Very logical decision making. 😂
honestly the suspension is fair my only real complaint of all that was the no suspension on hyman for that ending crosscheck on zadorov which was purposeful and actually drew blood. overall though the canucks this game had better ref luck which makes up for game 2 though this series is starting to get ugly and im sure hughes and pettersson and zadorov will be the targets of the oilers big guys so petterson and hughes better watch out
@@jacksonjacob7791how can it be unintentional when he chose to raise his stick to someone’s face? you never played hockey if u think a shin pad wack with padding is same as carbon fiber to the face?unless u have a women brain. 😂
Next game Hyman will WISH he was suspended
I don't believe suspensions should solely be based on intent. The fact remains that if you go to make a crosscheck after a match, when nothing is on the line, unforeseen outcomes can happen, including crosschecking a player in the head. There's no reason to take that risk. So now that you've learned that a suspension can be the outcome, you may be less likely to lash out at the end of a game, and players are less likely to be injured. That being said, I don't think this will change much. This doesn't fix the Oilers goal tending problem, so the Canuks will still be the team to get eliminated in the conference finals.
Skinner was pulled in the very first game of the year, which was against the Canucks. We've had him on speed dial ever since.
Oilers fan and yep, totally agree. I'm thinking Pickard might be just what the team needs as a boost.
Hymen with the cross check to the head as well but didnt get a suspension... or the intent to injure low blow in the previous game with no suspension...
Ian coal now has 3 goals for the second round with the Oilers 😂
If anything on the scrum play it should have been zed and hyman each getting a game not soucy
If that’s a suspension Bennett should also be suspended
McDavid is under the protection of the league. He is the poster boy who can do no wrong! He always whines to the ref about every play and the ref listens!
does that bother you ... gezzzz
They suspend Soucy but not Bennet? 🤦🏻
McDavid is a superstar, Marchand is a super pain in the ass . Bennett is a mirror image of Marchand, and the timing of the cross-check sandwich is what gives the bad optics . 1 game is whatever . SINCE we are talking about cheap shots , what about McDavid high sticking Quin Hughes to the face and drawing blood and no secondary punishment?
In theory, I'm not too upset that Soucy got suspended. Cross checking people in the face shouldn't just be allowed after all
I just would like to know where Department of Player Safety was after Game 2
That's ridiculous.
Slashing anyone after the whistle shouldn't be allowed either.
The only difference is the slash was intentional.
Soucy unintentionally crosschecked dude in the face. Because his face was suddenly where his chest was a split second earlier
One game for an unintentional crosscheck, but for Hyman intentional crosscheck, nothing?
Soucy getting suspended and hyman not is ridiculous
Then Hyman should be punished as well.
@@Brock_Boeserlmao zadorov is 6’5 no one cares if he gets hurt he’s a big boy for a reason.u his mom? 😂
intent has never been used for justification before when it comes to head shots
Hope you plan on talking about the lazy and sluggish game the Rangers just played against Carolina
Yeah they were dog shit tbh the whole series. They just got a couple bounces the first few games. They’re gonna lose I swear I’ll never watch another game. 30 years of being a fan of this team I’m so done.
Absolutely no effort from the boys in blue. I now understand why no one called them true contenders
I hate being a rangers fan sometimes
@@Squidgyy_it’s almost like being a Mets fan
@whitegd4100 Stop. We were up 3-0, we have a couple cracks at it. If we win the series next game you'll be right back on the wagon calling them "true contenders". I don't get when fans literally lose ALL hope after 1 or 2 losses in a SERIES. We made the mistake of trying not to lose with a 1-0 lead instead of playing to win. I'm sure they'll take note and head to Carolina with a totally different mindset and the 2 days off should help alot with the sluggishness. They are STILL contenders... but don't forget Carolina were literally favorites to win the Cup headed into the playoffs. Nobody said this was going to be an easy series. Chilllll. Relax and see what happens game 6 before you and the rest of the doom and gloom crowd start to come out with the pitchforks ready to roast Artemi and the rest of the boys. This is why so many other fanbases can't stand us Rangers fans. When things are good the fanbase is allll about them. When there's a slight bump in the road everyone wants everyone's heads and the noise becomes a detriment to the team. No wonder we can never find any real consistency.
Not to mention two missed penalties in one play to give Florida the win.
So running the goalie is a insignificant fine, and a highstick to the face is nothing, and the slash is nothing, but this crosscheck is a suspension?
The nhl needs to stop playing roulette with this sorta stuff.
What about the cross check by Hyman?? No suspension for him!!!! NHL is a joke.
That crosscheck was already going for the neck/head area before mcd gets hit in the back
I was at a fight and a hockey game broke out
I was there too! Scored the game winning goal
Are we really shocked anymore??
Are we really shocked anymore??
The suspension for Soucy is tough, but the player has to be responsible for their stick, his stick nailed McD in the face. By that same logic, Hyman should also be suspended on game for having his stick hit Z on the side of the head. I'm still amazed Darnel Nurse got away with ramming Pettersen head-first into the boards, folding him in half, then cross-checking him on the back of the head. the NHL needs to step in and settle this stuff down.
I think we can all agree that the Marchand one deserves some leniency
that's one way to say you hate the bruins
For the meme, sure. For actually having some consistency in the league, its an absolute fucking joke.
Kane smiling after getting absolutely wrecked is so cringe
He 100% deserved a suspension.
McDavid started it after the game ended
I, along with most Canucks fans I think, have little problem with the suspension itself, but with the lack of consistency. It seems like the Oilers can do anything they like to us, but if we do those same things it's not ok. If Soucy is suspended, fine, but Hyman did literally the exact same thing three seconds later and gets nothing. If the standard is that Soucy deserves a suspension, then they should uphold that standard and suspend Hyman too.
I actually think I'm happy the Leafs got eliminated in the first round 😅
Mcdavid deserved what he got for his BS ,
“Goalposts aren’t good goaltending.”
Then why are you shooting at the posts?
I think a big factor in deciding the suspension, was the fact the game was over and the final whistle blown.
It literally doesnt matter what you think of marchand and his history, that sucker punch was extremely dirty and deserves a massive suspension. We cant let things slide based on who we do or dont like. Thats unacceptable period.
The league isn’t supposed to protect your best guy…if your team has no one to enforce on it then you just gotta take it!
The only one who could get away with that cross check is Sam Bennett. He's the chosen one.
It doesn’t matter what Soucy intended to do. It what he did is what is suspension able.
Mcgayvid got what he deserved
Yet no fine for the high stick on Hughs, which looked to be deliberate. Guess it depends on who you are.
I love how these commentators keep bringing up the Sam Bennett punch on Marchand as if 90% of nhl fans didn’t want to see it
Having read the DoPS explanation on how Soucy's hit was "not a hockey play" and how they fined Big Zed...how does Hyman not get at least a fine? Cross check to the head after the whistle...its all the same. THIS is why fans are so sick and tired of the DoPS. ZERO consistency.
The Nucks got away with a lot of cross checks that game probably as the refs were trying to make up for the missed McDavid high stick on Hughes. It's a shame that officiating and league discipline is such a huge factor in playoff games. I'm glad to hear that McDavid was not seriously hurt.
Everyone should be treated equally. Your status as a star player is irrelevant. if your going to suspend Soucy for an accidental stick to the chin (like McDavid moved his head in the way, albeit with Big Z's help), then why not suspend Hyman for the intentional high stick to the head of Big Z. The latter drew blood and required stiches (so I hear). The former did neither. And McDavid gets away with what could be called an intentional high stick to Hughs, no call, no penalty, no repercussions. Ref's call the game the way it is supposed to be, regardless of the player. Player and fans will be much happier. If the McDavid-Hughs thing was reversed, do we not think there would have been a huddle/review from Hockey Central. Why no huddle, 4 refs on the ice and no-one saw it, come on.
I agree with your equally comment, but watch the tape again on the Hyman alleged contact...did you not see the punch he took to the face just as he was coming in? this was before any stick contact...so it wasn't that Hyman went directly in with a high cross check...in fact I don't think Hyman could see Zadorov once the punch landed
I don’t think Draisaitl was knocking the other teams goalie with that comment rather he was saying “we can’t just blame a good goaltender we need to put some pu is away”.
I think the only fair thing for the NHL to do at this point is let fans decide what fines and suspensions to hand out. We all seem quite level headed and unbiased.
Lol perfect
Not two seconds after the retaliatory cross check by Soucy, Hyman gets Zadorov up high with one as well, and Zadorov got cut and needed stitches.
Everything else from other games aside, if Soucy has to sit for an accidental high cross check, then Hyman definitely has to sit for one too.
(Depending on who you ask, Hyman's infraction might even be worse, considering the height of Zadorov makes it much harder to cross check him in the head amby accident)
The refs have been horrendous for every team
It's really Zadorov that should have gotten the suspension, hit from behind after the whistle. It''s clear Soucy wasn't trying to hit him dangerously.
I always love the ref argument from fans. No matter what they call or don't call, people are mad. People want the refs to let them play, then complain about calls not being made. The refs make a call, then people cry rigged if a pp goal is scored and blame the NHL for a ref problem. Fans are the problem, not the refs.
“I don’t see any malice here”
Dude literally tried to break his spine with a dirty hit but okay?
I get the feeling Eck doesn’t like McDavid
OK, Oilers fan here so take it with a grain of salt, but the officiating in this series has been horrendous. I don't think it has been biased because I don't think either team has benefited really. It has been easier to predict penalties based on the score and the pace of play than on actual infractions. The miss on McDavid's high stick was a big one, but it just seems like a total crapshoot of what gets called and what doesn't. When the Oilers have good sustained pressure, they seem to get really weak calls against them. On the flip side, when Vancouver is leading, the Oilers are getting away with a few.
The suspension is a tough one. I really thought it would be a fine because as Ek said it was more of a series of unfortunate events. But in the end, if you cross check a guy in the mouth like that after the game, there has to be something (I understand if he wasn't falling it wouldn't hit there).
I don't care if the call it tight or let them play (though I'd prefer tight because that gives my team the advantage). What I really hate though is the game management. After the Oilers 2nd power play goal, I knew that they were not going to get another call for a long time. Weak call against them led to Vancouver's 2nd and then all of a sudden Edmonton gets a few calls going their way. Just call the infractions and don't worry about the score.
Yes, too many calls/non calls based on the score.
Canucks fan and I agree with you for the most part, it seems that the league wants close scoring games.
Apparently the Hyman cross check to the head of Zadorov, less than 10 seconds after, was bad enough that he needed stitches to close the cut - no call, no supplemental discipline a thing like that are what leaves fans questioning the integrity of the league
Oh really? I didn’t hear about the stitches. I thought it was a fairly light cross check but it was needlessly high.
I think that type usually doesn’t result in supplemental disciple but I’m sure with the other one getting 1 game it is a hard pill to swallow.
On the bright side if it's been equally bad then it won't impact the outcome of the series.
Look I’m an Oilers fan and I’m not saying this because I hate Vancouver but the series has been bias to Vancouver. I’ve notice the Refs don’t want to put the Oilers on the power play because it’s good and this is where I get mad it’s the refs dictating the outcome of these games. If the Canucks take a penalty they should be punished by the Oilers power play. I don’t like the whole argument of they are letting them play no they are deciding on what they want to call and what they don’t want to call. The NHL is always looking at ways to speed up the games well maybe schedule the games better maybe don’t start the season late like why did the season start midway through October. If the game is slowed down by penalties then so be it. Ive seen many times where a penalty is not called then the other team gets called on the same penalty that wasn’t called earlier then they get scored on. So annoying.
If Soucy gets a game so should've Hyman
The stick work in the NHL keeps evolving with none of it acceptable. One game for that cross check is bs. Does a career have to end before they get it??? Using your stick with 2 hands on it to hit someone anywhere at anytime should be called and progressively punished. You can bodycheck, push n shove all without a weapon. It's out of control.
I think both teams have been shifted by the refs this series. the officials have been calling cross checking and slashing penalties like crazy and then missing high sticking/too many men/interference calls that are obvious. Pretty disappointing
Love how this guy calls Hyman a "dirty little rat intentionally inviting himself into the scrum" but has nothing to say about Zadorov who did the same thing seconds earlier. Your bias is showing bro
I don’t think it would be the smartest choice to change tendies, cause if they lose game 4 they’ll have to put skinner in an elimination game
100% no doubt about it..from the front right view, that Puck went over the goal line..but from sky cam you can't see it...thanks refs
Hyman aimed at Zadorovs head and connects on the crosscheck. That shouldve been 1 game if Soucys is 1. Soucy wasnt aiming for the head, Hyman was. The difference is that McDavid is more valuable to the league so the league will protect him. And if the league suspended Hyman then the Oil would only have 4 useful players.
dude gets crosschecked from behind and in the face and his teammate comes in with the same energy and is a rat?!?!?
McD coulda skated away the game was over, but no he had to stop and golf swing chop the Canucks D. McD is 100% at fault for everything he got. When you stop to chirp in the middle of 4 Canucks and then try and be dirty what you think is gonna happen.
Hyman also deserves to be suspended
Not a rat, but he should be punished
Yes Hyman is a whiny rat
@@GreenBeanGreenBeanlmao then if someone slashes your stick a little to rough you can punch them? so then Hughes deserved to get cut for being 5’7 ? U silly woman a shin pad wack with padding is nothing compared to carbon fiber to the face..lmao ur brain can’t decipher the two🤣
I am here for the Campbell soup redemption arc.