Sugar Ray Leonard interview after the fight with Marvin Hagler.
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- On May 1, 1986, Leonard announced on a Washington, D.C. talk show that he would return to the ring to fight Hagler. The announcement generated a lot of controversy because of Leonard's inactivity and eye injuries, yet it also excited many sports fans who had hoped to see them fight years earlier. Hagler took a few months to decide, then agreed to the match. The fight was promoted as "The Super Fight" and Leonard was guaranteed $11 million. Leonard was awarded a controversial split-decision.Jim Murray, long-time sports columnist for the Los Angeles Times, wrote, "It wasn't even close...He didn't just outpoint Hagler, he exposed him. He made him look like a guy chasing a bus. In snowshoes.... Leonard repeatedly beat Hagler to the punch. When he did, he hit harder. He hit more often.... He made Hagler into what he perceived him to be throughout his career-a brawler, a swarmer, a man who could club you to death only if you stood there and let him. If you moved, he was lost."
Often regarded as one of the greatest boxers of all time, he competed from 1977 to 1997, winning world titles in five weight divisions; the lineal championship in three weight divisions;] as well as the undisputed welterweight title. Leonard was part of "The Fabulous Four", a group of boxers who all fought each other throughout the 1980s, consisting of himself, Roberto Durán, Thomas Hearns and Marvin Hagler.
Leonard is also the godfather of Khloé Kardashian and has appeared on many episodes of Keeping Up With The Kardashians.
In his autobiography The Big Fight: My Life in and out of the Ring, published in June 2011, Leonard reveals that as a young boxer he was the victim of sexual abuse from an Olympic trainer as well as another man, a benefactor. He has since made public appearances to bring attention to the issue of child sex abuse, declaring himself a "poster child" for the cause and encouraging victims to report their abuse. - Sport
Sugar Ray was better with the media than any other boxer that have ever seen. He knew how to dance with the press.
Better than Ali? Ray does speak very well, though.
@@bryanroberts5409 you beat me to it brother Bryan.
NO ONE other than Ray can get away with telling a FEMALE reporter " You look gorgeous " and not be accused of inappropriate behavior. True OG, "O"utstanding "G"entleman.
Ali was "one of the most" accessible athletes ever, if not "the most" accessible, he took the advice of trainer Angelo Dundee, to be accommodating to the press...they can be your friends or, enemies, it depends on you, he said to a young Cassius Clay in the early 60s, as he was beginning his rise in the rankings.
Like I say ,he goes down as the best over all boxer because he beat Hearns and Hagler , but if Hagler fights southpaw and beats Sugar, then Hagler would have been the greatest all weight classes.
HE DIDN'T BEAT HAGLER UP 👀
The hit man is the one who took him out of boxing and hurt his eyes wow
Wrong. Do research as it wasn't hearns that damaged his eye.
This is the most relaxed I've seen him in an interview. Usually, he'd think very carefully before every word.
Sugar Ray Leonard was smooth in the ring and he was a smooth talker!
I think he ended up the greatest boxer ever even beating Ali. If Hagler would have fought him South Paw , he would have knocked Leonard out. Just my opinion , then Hagler would have been considered the over all greatest boxer ever.
Smart man.
@@garyburns8040 I don't think he would've ko'd him but it would've been a hell of fight
His win over Hagler was up there with Ali's destruction of Foreman. Two guys who were expected to get blown away but instead demonstrated why they're now regarded as legends.
No
Hagler was ROBBED !
Were you watching the fight ?
Haggler won that fight. You can't win a fight punching someone's gloves and running away for 90% of the fight. The commentator at ringside and boxers on the commentary team, said exactly the same thing. Leonard creates more box office, Full Stop.
@@CityBoy5705 when it was over, I had no doubt Leonard won. You're a guy who is apparently impressed by aggressiveness. You like the guy who comes forward. That's good enough for you. I like the fighter who lands the cleaner, more effective shots. I don't care if he's backing up or fighting off the ropes. Landing punches is all that matters. And that's what Leonard did. Telltale sign is at the final bell. Leonard immediately climbs the ropes and is joyous. He knows that he won. Hagler just turns and looks angry. Upset. Crestfallen. He knows that he lost. Leonard was the general in the ring. He dictated the pace of the bout. Hagler just ineffectively followed him around and played the part of Leonard's foil. No matter how many times I watch it, Leonard comes out the winner. Even Gil Clancy called Leonard "the miracle man." He knew who won that fight, just like I did. Try watching it again...this time with an open mind.
Not at all, because Ali beat Foreman and Ray never even hurt Hagler much less beat him
Leonard ran away from Hagler for most of that fight in Las Vegas in 1987, after requesting and being given a larger ring and 12 rounds instead of the usual 15 rounds. Leonard's manager, the criminal Don King bribed the fight judges and had a bet on Leonard to win. I watched the entire fight and when I heard the decision for Leonard, I knew Hagler had been robbed.
After that fight the "running chickenshit Leonard" had to check into the hospital for undisclosed reasons.
Hagler was an honest and unassuming man, who had no big connections in the boxing world, and had to do things the hard way, fighting more than 50 fights before he was given a shot at the championship title.
I knew Hagler from Boston, and he was "Boston's boxer", hailing from Brockton Mass., where the great Rocky Marciano was from.
We loved Marvelous Marvin in Boston. RIP, Mr. Marvin Hagler.
PS: The first rule of fighting and boxing is "you never win a fight by running away from your opponent", unless of course, Don King has a bet on you to win.
We'll said Sir !
@@SISU889 Thank you.
Very true and accurate. Leonard didn't win that fight. Hagler was robbed.
$10 mill. pay compared to $100 mill today.....Wow how bout that inflation.
10 million was nothing like 100 million even back then
@@Est91. boy what
@@VitruvianVictor hahaha legit what does that even mean
"I want to drink coffee and talk to you" -Ray Leonard
I would have had more respect for SRL as a fighter if he would have fought Hagler when they were both in their prime, when the fight was about to get signed up SRL retired due to a damaged eye retina - and stated he would never be able to fight again - yet as he watched Hagler getting slower some yrs later he all of a sudden could fight again, i think this is were boxing lost its way, someone could just come out of retirement and fight for a world title, while other fighters who have been slugging away in the rankings to earn the title shot get pushed to one side - Hagler won that fight BTW !
Well you can say the two went in at a disadvantage.
The smart idea of “Stolen rounds” just going all out in the last seconds of each round made SRL on the eyes of the judges a winner. Smart counts on all sport and it is an edge..it is not ilegal what he did. Marvin Hagler corner should have noticed that and should have instructed him to fight even more on the last seconds of each round.
I watched the five on live TV and right after the fight I was thinking that SRL won but I watched the reply the day after and I change my mind. I watched for a third time and I was thinking a draw was more right in my eyes and that would have made Marvin Hagler retaining the middle weight crown.
I also noticed that after the fight SRL was a fresher fighter and like Marvin their faces were unmarked. Meaning there were not power punches were landed.
I considered Marvin Hagler one of the best Middle weight champions of the world that should have been a champion much younger but nobody want to giving him an opportunity when he was younger.
Sugar fought Marvin after being out of the ring for years....and BTW, Sugar out THOUGHT Marvin....
@@julioconsuegra1351 yes both were unmarked. I guess it's because of the gloves..Don't forget That Leonard Ask for bigger gloves because l think that he was afraid to be hurt badly
Hagler lost to a amateur boxing style on the night ‘hit more than you get hit’ ye no war no great battle an ye srl didn’t do toe to toe but he showed a greater all round boxing set that he used to beat hagler. Hagler don’t beat sugar unless he comes out to fight. Close fight an had hagler won I wouldn’t say he didn’t deserve to but he didnt
Sugar ray waited for years until he saw some sign of age in Hagler. And only then he took the fight. On Leonard's conditions. That meant a bigger ring than normal for Leonard to run around in. And only 12 rounds. If it had been 15 rounds like it was usual back then, Leonard would not have survived.
Ring size and how many rounds were big contractual issues for that fight. Don't forget Leonard wasn't supposed to fight again do to injury. A smaller ring and 15 rounds and Sugar wouldn't have taken that fight.
You’d see a KO
15 rounds were not the normal back then.Hagler v Hearns was scheduled for 12 two years before.
EXACTLY!!! 🥊🥊🥊🥊💥
@@mogsy1977 They were in some cases, just not most.
MARVELOUS MARVIN HAGLER: STILL THE WINNER @t
Hmmm explain it why he is the winner.?
Hagler won that fight in my opinion, it was close
Ray was scared to death of Hagler and knew that Marvin at the peak of his powers would sent him to the shadow realm. After epic battles with Tommy Hearns and John Mugabi, Marvin was slowing down and you could see it. Leonard saw it in the Mugabi fight and knew this was his chance. He fought for a point victory and never intended to mix it up with Marvin....who would have ripped his head off.
You're right about that!
Yes Lenard is talented but also he's been the American Boy got all the Press all the publicity even new how to influence judges like let him know in a 30 seconds for the rounds up he know how to steal rounds manipulate judges of course he would never go at it with Marvin Hagler he would take him out i watched it over and over and I still believe that Hagler won that fight!!
He just survived Hagler was also smart and he was chopping away with body shots and Leonard's legs were wobbly and he was exhausted In Hagler's Prime Leonard would neverof fought him!!
Suger boxed the ears of Hagler
And sugar was the greatest of all time after Ali
@@curtisrobbins2980 suger won that fight with ease
And was on another level to hagler
Easy nights work for sugar
No one more polished with the press than Ray Leonard
It was a close fight , don't pay attention to above comments. It goes like this. If Haggler boxes him Southpaw , Hagler wins, but I thought it was really a draw.
finally someone makes sense here
Your correct. If he came out southpaw instead of boxing orthodox he would have won. I myself think Haggler won. If you look at JoJo Guerra scorecard he was out of his mind or took a payment earlier tht even.
@@brianmcghee3597 Guerra should've been ousted from the sport after that
I like entertainment.. and whoever entertains me will be the winner and that's SLR.
Just a couple of years ago I re-watched with the sound down and I surprised myself by scoring 115-114 for Hagler
I'm impressed by the interviewer's intelligent questions... she did her homework
Why are you surprised...?
@@jamescarr4662he said why
He was/is definitely easy on the eyes. ❤
Ray had it all, great fighter baby faced assassin very handsome man ❤
Sugar was the real deal. Lethal speed, defence, offence, power. He had it all.
Hagler ran after ray instead of standing in the middle of the ring, forcing ray to "come and get it". Ray ran from Marvelous for years.
yeah, and then he taught Hagler a lesson in the sweet science (RIP Hagler!)
All round boxing skills is what sugar had .as when Ali beat foreman it was a boxing lesson showing all skills not just some.
That was the moment that he should never have returned to boxing.
Now í am telling pacquiao please retires. Do not finish been punished by a boxer that would have not beaten him before. Please manny ¡ No more !
I hope manny reads yr comment you are 100% correct respect 🤙
No mas
I think the thing that we leave out about the Hagler vs Leonard fight is that Leonard came out of Retirement from 5 years ,had no tuneups...No nothing....He went straight to him....That was scary in itself.
Eddie Lester - You can say that again ! ✌🏾
5 years? Not true. 3 years.
Geoffrey Manneck It was three years but his point still stands.
@@jjrose14 1982....Kevin Howard.....last fight before Hagler...1987..
At the end of the day we all have opinions about the fight, I just consider myself blessed to have lived through the greatest era in boxing imo . Massive fan of both boxers thanks for the memories guys RESPECT.
Haglar one. If you are coming to take the man's titles you better do it with intensity on front foot not running all fight. Haglar is best middleweight ever. Period.
Hagler won that fight all life
I respect tommy herbs lost to marvin more than sugar ray win atleast tommy stood blow for blow sugar was running
I'm a hagler fan more than leonard but leonard won,hagler was after slowing down through a hard and great career
@@MarcusMarsh-tf4zidude it’s called boxing not brawling, hagler was a swarmer and pressure fighter. Ray was a boxer puncher different styles
What a gentleman. Modern sports stars could learn from him.
He’s such an handsome man 👨 for the job he’s in “
And intelligent as well.
Good egg all round.
@collars and cuffs
No he wouldn’t knock me out “ he’s intelligent “ and you’re the one talking BS .
Ray Leonard was the Golden Goose who laid the golden egg when comes to the dollar bill. When it comes the great welterweights, Aaron Pryor was the greatest welterweight of them all and that is why Ray and Thomas Hearns ducked him. Sugar Ray Leonard you have come a long way baby. The real story that Ray does not tell relating to his Rags to Riches story: He was born in NC lived in NW DC in his early years. He then moved to Palmer Park, Maryland. He is a great rags to riches story. He won the Gold Medal in the 1976 Olympic Games. He arrived home to Palmer Park expecting a ticker tape parade, instead he received a scalding from local media for having a baby out of wed lock with girlfriend Quanita. Ashamed he hid in his house and refuse to come out. He had lost his self esteen. One day I am hanging out in Anacostia Park playing tennis and I look out from the tennis courts and I see his trainer Janks Morton and my friend the late great Melvin Weasel Jackson looking in. I leave the courts to find out what was going on, because baseball was their game. It was then they explained to me that Ray refused to come out of the house. I was then asked to go and talk to him and try to convince him to check his ego and self esteen at the door and ignore the media. Those were tuff times financially and Ray didn't have two pennies to rub together. He was confused and had no one to turn to--enter Harold Bell. The following morning I went to Palmer Park and knocked on his door. He answered with tears in his eyes looking all pitifull. I use some choice words and convinced him to put his clothes on and suggested that he put his Gold Meldal around his neck. We were off to Harrison Elementary School in NW DC. I alerted my friend the Principal Mr. Cousins that I was on the way with Ray and to find him a class to speak to. The setting was perfect, elementary school children did not have the same player-hating and evious jealousy traits as we adults. All they could see was the Olympic Boxing champion that their Principal called a hero. The rest is boxing history--Sugar RayLeonard went on to become the first pro boxer to earn over 100 million dollars. Ray co-hosted my sports talk show "Inside Sports" before his 15 minutes of fame. This is a little known Black History fact.😎
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Leonard&Hearns both would've beaten Aaron Pryor at Welterweight.Pryor was a Lightweight who had to go up in weight because he couldn't get a title shot at Lightweight.Although Pryor was a sensational fighter,he was too small for Leonard&Hearns.
harold bell yes sir you are 100% right
Scoot Dog Pryor trounced Hearns in the ammeteurs. Leonard didn't want the Pryor fight as pro's......
+ manos3790 Hearns wasn't nowhere close to his mature self when he met Pryor as novice. Pro Hearns KO's small fries too easy. Hearns leverage was too long for shorties. Pryor fighting mature Hearns would of been liken to Duran/Hearns but the KO would of came much faster and easier.
Pryor kills Money Mayweather; yes a man of his same stature. Big, fast, and vicious super heavy welterweights like SRL and Hearns who shrink down to welterweight/147lbs for the fight scale...But by fight night they're back up to 157lbs or more, and you pit them with lightweights?... either you're new to boxing or you don't give care about the game to make such a statement.
Pryor or Money Mayweather would gotten mopped off the kitchen floor by SRL and especially Thomas Hearns. Not that Hearns was better than SRL but to the fact that super short guys that were technical fighters were made to order for Hearns.
harold bell - I’m sorry but the story was beautiful but Ray did not duck Arron Pryor !
I believe Learnard waited until he thought he could beat Hagler to fight him but Hagler still beat him..Plus,I heard he wanted a bigger ring and bigger gloves...Now I would have love to seen them fight in there prime..
Leonard wanted 12 rounds too.
James Hampton - I don’t think so, because Marvin had just knocked out a man that nobody wanted any parts of in John “ The Beast “ Mugahbi.
"but Hagler still beat him" So, is that the way your bookie saw it? Didn't think so.
@@riccobarnes9746 there are interviews where ray admits it you can hear in his own words admit he ducked hagler until he thought he had slowed.all the leanard fanboys won't admit it but it's true.
@@UpChuckTheBoogie so he ducked Hagler till he slowed down right but he fought him straight out of retirement
Hagler never stopped fighting so it still was a equal fight
And why would he fight Hagler years ago he was a welterweight Hagler would've killed him
It was a close fight. Hagler didn’t do enough to win. This messed with Hagler until the day he died.
The only battle Marvin won against Leonard was the money battle...19mil to 11mil. Leonard received the bigger ring, bigger gloves, and 12 rnds over 15.
Rich Bell - Exactly !!! 🥊
They had stopped 15 rd bouts 3-4 years prior.
Marvin won the battle of genuine human being vs arsehole.
@@therealc.t.7085 Not true. The last 15 round fight was several months after The Hagler SRL match. If not, why was it negotiated for 12 rounds?
@@da324 They stopped 15 rounds bouts in 1982 after Boom Boom Mancini accidentally killed Duk Koo Kim. Ray and Marvin fought in 1987.....
Hagler won this fight. How in the hell they scored Leonard a win is beyond me. BS!!
Close fight. Hagler lost.
If he box like he fought hearns may be hagler will be the winner. But Leonard is not hearns. Brain is the key to win.
@@ninolama Won the fight, lost to the judges.
Sugar ray land more punches and much flashier , i wanted halger to win but he gave away the early rounds wanting to prove he could out box and he just have jumped him from the start and took him to a hard place and i think he would of won , but another factor i think marvin had just slipped , he fought the wrong fight and it was 12 not 15 rounds all factors went against him
@@stephenmacdonald4443 why do people mention the fact it wasn’t 15 rounds?Hagler’s previous 2 fights against Mugabi and Hearns were both scheduled for 12.
WHY did Marvin agree to 12 rounds instead of 15 when SRL had to come up in weight???
Overconfident
Why did he agree to a *”SMALLER RING🥊”*
Ray said 12 rounds, larger ring , and thumbless gloves or no fight.
Hagler was robbed
The weight that Leonard gained in order to fight Hagler was impressive, and it shows in this interview. And Eileen Prose is twice as big as him
The detached retina was courtesy of Thomas Hearns.
Marvin won that fight
Go back and watch the fight in slow motion. Every punch landed counts whether light or hard.
Hagler wasn’t the only fight Sugar Ray won because he was sugar Ray and the flashy stuff at the end of the rounds sugar Ray was great tho but Hagler won that fight he was the champ.
Absolutely
SUGER RAY JUST HAVE GREAT ARMSTRONG HANDS DOWN.
Marvin A LOW DOWN SORRY PERSON ON PRISONERS STUFF AND BROKE WITH MONEY 💵 BUT YOU CAN FEEL FREE DRINKS 🍻 DRUGS OR ALCOHOL ADDICTION MARVIN GAY
In his prime he beats Floyd rather easily. End of discussion.
Scott Davidson - Exactly !!!
Scott Davidson stfu..you said the most dumbest shit ever..
he beat hagler. And he would beat floyd
Iq over physicality any day
You guys are obsessed with Floyd 😂😂
Sugar Ray partly gives the impression that boxing is little more than an evening out...🙂🇯🇲
Hagler won that fight. All objective boxing fans know it.
Sugar OUTTHOUGHT Marvin....all intelligent boxing fans know it...
Yes.
I like entertainment. SLR posses that while hagler only posses bulb shel..no charisma at all.
@@NeverSurrender-cq5gd It isn't a fucking beauty contest - Hagler was the real deal, not a showman.
Even if he did it was a WEAK dec (probably split dec) victory.
A far cry from how he was going to
“DESTROY SRL”
Here is a thought: Hagler vs Leonard under original boxing rules- no neutral corner, no round limits. Ala jack Dempsey.
Haggler possibly wins
Maybe under those rules it brings other fighters in the elite
Hagler destroys him. Both in prime
In his prime there's no way Leonard even signs to fight. No question about it, never mind your proposed rules.
@@sleazyfellow these were the rules in the early days. Even until recently no jr divisions existed and 15 rounds were the norm up-to mid 1980s. boxing has become a commercial gimmick now, purely money driven .
It is bothersome when uninformed fans put Leonard on the same level with hagler. Watch Camacho vs Leonard for true indication of who this unoriginal “sugar” is.
SRL did exactly what he set out to do in the fight, exceeded expectations by surviving. I don't think he won it. MMH was the most durable and unhurtable fighter I have ever seen.
It was a close fight. Scoring could have gone either way.
Marvin bears a grudge ...but he should of started faster !!....
Indeed, Marvin lost a close fight that didn't need to be close.
Hagler still won the fight.
cyril layman nope. And he retired the very next day after the loss...what does that say?
@@zs8796 please...get over it. Leonard won.
@@zs8796 how can you “prove” something that is factually incorrect. SRL won the fight. That is fact. Cannot be disputed. That is what happened.
Great Champ and a spot picker but caught up to him later with Norris and Camacho
Mike MacCallum called out Suger Ray. None of the 'fab four' wanted anything to do with MacCallum.
James toney himself fucked up mike. Hearns and srl would crush mike. Stop it
@@davepop8192 I thought Errol Graham should have got the W vs Mccallum
Let's be clear. SRL did win against Hagler. Hagler may have had more damaging punches, but Leonard was far more busy and far more accurate with his punches. He connected at a higher percentage and landed at a higher rate. No knock out? Gotta go to the score cards. Sugar Ray was clearly the winner because he was more active. I think if Hagler tried to throw more punches than he threw during the fight, he would have worn himself out to the point where Leonard could have knocked him out.
I agree with everything you said until Ray could knockout Marvin. Marvin just couldn’t possibly be knocked out
No one knocks out Hagler. He only was down once in his career and that was a slip. His endurance and strength are on another level. Can't knock him out
@@zja1441 I know it hurts bruh, but Hagler was staggering several times later in that fight from being winded. Dont get me wrong... Marvelous Marvin had amazing endurance (probably the best at the time - behind Sugar Ray Leonard)... but I don't care who you are, if you spend most of a fight trying to land power knockout shots, you goin 'get tired. Once again, if Hagler tried to go punch for punch using power shots to Ray's flurries, Hagler would've tired out in about the six or seventh round. He would have either got knocked out (don't down play Leonard's knockout power) or he would have put enough pressure on Leonard to knock Sugar Ray out (before the seventh). Once Sugar Ray showed he could weather or escape Haglers onslaught after the 7th, that was it. Leonard was just too busy. Hagler's only avenue to victory was a knockout because of his style, which he couldn't secure against Leonard. He never had Leonard hurt enough where Sugar Ray didn't look like he wasn't still challenging Hagler for dominance of the ring. Judges don't score fights on how painful a punch is (unless it causes potential fight ending injury or a knock out). No knockouts, both fighters still fighting, gotta go to punch count.
@@shondmichael1363 Leonard threw more but less effective and most was blocked. Leonard simply cherry picked a weaken Hagler.
The only one that could knock out Hagler is himself, because of how winded he got at the end of the fight.
Ali to me was the best with the press in Interviews Ali was in the Nearly Interview program in England for GB LOVED ALI PROB STILL DO. THERE WAS RACISTS THAT TOOK ACCEPTION WHEN ALI SAID HE LOVED TO HUMILIATE A WHITE MAN. ..SUGAR RAY ,HEARNS, HAGLAR TYSON AND BOXERS FROM UK NI AND EIRE WAS VERY POPULAR IN OUR HOUSE.
That was the biggest set up fight in the history of boxing watch the fight Hagler held back so much and when he barely through a punch he hurt him
1 Len ,2 Len, 3 Hag, 4 Len, 5 Hag, 6 Len, 7 Hag, 8 Hag,9 Len just ,10 Hag,11, Hag clearly , 12 Ray clearly A DRAW CLEARLY SO NO WONDER HAGLER RETIRED SHOULD OF BEEN A REMACH AND HAGLER RETAINING HIS BELTS
Exact same thing I saw, a draw. It was too damn close!
Sugar never wanted a rematch. He was scared
A past it Ray went the distance with one of the greatest middleweights ever! Acknowledge that... no way he should of lasted the 12 rds. But he did.. haglar thought to himself after the fight that if Ray could do thst to him imagine a younger faster stronger un and comingfighter would of done to him!!
Computers and football=little Ray
Leonard lost the fight. America's little golden boy, who creates more box office. There's your reason right there How arrogant can you be....I knew I would beat Marvin, Marvin knew i would beat him.
Who the hell does he think he is ? I cannot abide him. Also Tommy hearns beat him in their second fight.. but it was called a draw.. Absolute disgrace. Leonard even admitted hearns won the second fight years later. If I knew I lost and i was awarded the win, i would not accept it. Because I would know I had lost, and I couldn't live with that.
Sugar was and is charm personified plus he was a good looking guy and a multi millionaire 🥊 I’ve watched his bout with MMH more than fifty times and he won fair & square 115-113.
Marvin Hangler won the fight
Sugar Ray Leonard kept running away. He didn't beat Hagler up that's nonsense... Sugar Bum Leonard.
one of the all time greats, guy
@@ninolama Hagler was better, all Sugar Ray was good at was running away
@@stevenmitchell2996 not p4p, Leonard was a more complete fighter
@@ninolama I disagree
@@stevenmitchell2996 you have to remember, a prime Leonard was 147. He had all the tools. Hagler was outstanding but P4P Leonard in his prime and in his weight was a more complete fighter...
MMH won. Tha fight, ray u lost period
I believe a draw would have been fair. I am really a fan of both guys.
They gift him that fight
Fixed fight for the golden boy
It was close , Hagler messed up not fighting him South paw
@@homebell4866 You're obviously a Hagler fan. Was close but I give it to the great Sugarman
@@donovanpain83 it was a fix
118 Ray vs 110 Hagler? You have got to be kidding. How can this be? When you go back and see the fight , Ray running for his life, got a draw at best. But, this is what happens when your are boxing's darling. Ray Leonard was a good welterweight, but a mediocre middle weight, and judges were always on his side(Leonard vs Hearns 2) enough said.
Mark Garduno - Ray has been man enough to at least admit that he lost that second fight against Tommy Hearns. There is no way Arron Pryor would have beaten Ray or Tommy !
Ray only admitted it because he wants Hagler to somehow do the same....and Hagler will be like f**k you until the day he dies
mazhar rehman - No! Ray is like screw Hagler ! He doesn’t need validation from Marvin because he straight up beat him. Anyone who watches that fight can clearly see that Ray was the better man that night and he did everything that he said he would do and that was out box Marvin. Marvin’s game plan was to bust Ray up and knock him out and he didn’t. He even said that the fight didn’t have to or it wouldn’t go 12 rounds and it did. He also let Ray have the bigger ring because he thought that he could cut the ring off with no problem. As well as it would be very dangerous for Ray to allow Marvin to pin him on the ropes because that’s where Marvin would do the his best work and the most damage. But when it happened Marvin couldn’t keep him there and Ray most times got the better of the exchanges whether on the ropes or in the middle of the ring. That’s why when it was all said and done you the announcer say, “ and new middle weight champion of the world !” Sugar Ray Leonard ! 🤷🏾♂️🥊✌🏾
If you watch the fight with the volume off Hagler wins by a couple of rounds.....especially the 3rd and 4th which the commentators gave to Ray....but all in all Ray was a great fighter but also a sly little f****r....his camp paid off King to get an overweight Duran to give an immediate rematch to SRL (Ray has admitted this) and also didn't want any part of a Hagler rematch but went on to fight Hearns and Duran....after his so called this is not a career this is one fight bullshit....I got real satisfaction when Norris beat him like he'd stole his dinner money.
@@riccobarnes9746 your a Ray fan I'm sure, but Ray got a draw at best. Never hurt Marvin and never put him in trouble and Hagler was the busier man. He landed the most punches and Ray only caught Marvin with flurries that came at the end of each round. Now I'm not going to say Hagler won ,but he certainly didn't lose. It was an out right draw at best for Leonard and that's giving him a lot. There's no way that score was 118 to 110 no way no how. Draw draw draw
Bullshit hagler was better all around. He could brawl and he was a magnificent boxer. Hagler, hearns, and Duran were all better than Leonard
Agreed…..Leonard won 7 of the 12 rounds.
Ray had a huge ego and Terry Norris and Hector Camacho beat him senseless
should have been a draw and a rematch
I still think Marvin Hagler won that fight .....
Nonsense!
Leonard outboxed Hagler. Outquicked him. Landed more punches according to Compubox. People are always overly impressed by the aggressor.
Your Right absolutely 💯
Leonard won that fight hands down
Leonard won the match Forget Las Vegas
Ray was clever in that fight
Ray is definitely on the sniff here
I saw one man outspeed another ray won in my eyes even do il love marvellous
The fight between Hagler and Sugar. Looked Fixed Hagler never threw any punches with power
hadler reaction on hearing he lost was not fixed
You must have a convincing victory to take out the Champion. Leonard did not have a convincing enough fight to be given the title.
He definitely practiced his TV interviews like he did his boxing, probably had a camera set up in the gym and recorded that shit then played it back,iron out all the BS because this guy talks like a politician
He’s total package speed punch power knock you out with Eva hand
Ray lost that fight but was saved by the judges
He won that fight and was it was solidified by the judges, get over it lmao
a gift decision.
Leonard was a great boxer and you guys can say what you want about being mediocre but he knocked hearns out of the ring twice and retired hagler who he did beat
Leonard admitted Tommy clearly won the second fight. The Hagler fight was/ is disputable. He did not clearly win the fight.
@@duncansmith8992 the first fight is the highlight. Prime SLR and HEARNS.
@@NeverSurrender-cq5gd Not Tommy's fault Leonard ducked the rematch for years.
I watched that fight a millions times my man ray leonard won that fight hands down out box him
Hagler won that fight
It's Boxing. Not MMA. Leonard won 7 rounds. Hagler won 5. He out Boxed him. He didn't out Brawl him. Period, end of story.
Ray lost & was scared to go in the ring. The marvelous one got ripped off.
Sugar Ray all day 🥊
BUT "ALI" WAS STILL THE GREATEST!
He's from Ali's training Camp!!
@@xzing7 Naaa... he's "FROM" Palmer Park Md...By way of...Wilmington, North Carolina!
We were hugging each other it was beautiful he was kissing me I was kissing him it was romantic and we both got paid (_ _ _)
Ehhhh
Ali beat Foreman....KO....Holyfield beat Tyson....KO....Hagler beat Hearns....KO....Holmes beat Cooney....KO....Marciano beat Walcott. ....KO....SRL beats Hagler...pitter patter punches runs like a bitch debatable split decision bullshit. ...but the way he goes on about it you'd think he hit Hagler and he didn't get up for a week.
sooo....if you you don't ko your opponent you don't win?
What sugar showed was a total arsenal of all round boxing skills as Ali did against foreman. If hagler can’t deal with it that’s down to him. Pretty even no thrills fight tbf
That's why I like him.. brain is the key. Don't trade punches if you think the opponent is a beast and bulb.
That’s why hagler is dead and Leonard isn’t. Leonard actually boxed, he didn’t just walk forward with his head down and swing wild punches, that’s not boxing.
Hagler won .. Can’t win a title backpedaling, holding, low blows … absolutely ridiculous..
Pity Pat “punches” .. gimme a f•cking break! Vegas wins again 🤦🏾♂️
Bum leanord.
I bet this bum would beat the hell out of you.
@@tonydeveres5827 you his bf?
@@outlaw49x10 you're a clown
Leonard was a true king of the ring with or without fighting hagler.
He didn't win the fight, corrupt game hagler tipped his hat give it the middle finger and went to italy
Coniglio
Sugar Ray won
The greatest boxer I ever Seen and I have 59 years old
Sugar OUTHOUGHT Marvin.....using angles, pacing, and overall ring generalship....Marvin was a great fighter, no doubt, but on this night, Sugar was greater.....
Great comment.....thanks!!!!!
It indeed was for YOU....all the best!
Ray was 147 pounds
smarmy sugar ray
hagler won, draw at least
@bobbytheblade2550
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My brother and I both watched this bout with scored cards but never revealed our numbers until after the final bell.
I had Hagler winning by one round, and my brother had Ray winning by 3 rounds. We argued!
The next day, I saw the boxing media were split 50-50 as to who really deserved the decision.
People still debate this bout. I wonder if anybody even still remembers any Floyd Mayweather bouts.
All these people hating on Ray but Haglers name will never reach the same height that Sugar Rays resides at.
Simple.
Sugar won
The greatest of all Time miracle Man
Guys saying ray running from hagler, why dont you try counting the points each round and see who out pointed who ,hagler even knew he lost with that lame dance at end of fight ,say what you want but ray is only one I seen where hagler wasnt hagler
Watch the fight without the bias commentary. Ray made Marvin miss, but Marvin also deflected or ray punched his gloves a lot of the time. Ray's speed makes it look clean, but he didn't hit him as clean or at all a lot of the time. Hagler was the aggressor and hurt and shook Leonard, Ray never really did that. I think it was closer to a draw because to beat a champ you have to be decisive. I actually think Hagler won it, Ray was just better playing to the crowd.
@@Sharkgiant445 Leonard landed more punches by official stats and made Hagler miss. Was close and i respect Hagler but the great Sugarman win
The art of boxing is hitting the other guy without getting hit. He out boxed Hagler period!
Sugar ray won the fight period. The hate has to stop ✋