Ah, so sad. Sorry for the loss. My loss, however, was straining to listen to crash dialog because of 4 notes being repeated for almost 15. Minutes, drowning out the conversation . Didn’t care about the aircraft at the end. Just stop the torture!!
Sorry about the loss of a gorgeous airplane, but what a spectacular crash! And you have it on video, too. Farmers around where I live have a real problem with people trampling their crops. I hope yours was understanding or at least unaware.
that's the correct thought no thought of offering the farmer twenty bucks for damage just hope he is unaware of you in his field trampling around instead of cleaning it up and getting out in a timely fashion
A scale plane needs to be flown in a scale fashion. That crash is a 100% pilot induced event from very poor pilot in command flying. Every single one of the maneuvers shown could have been performed with less power and at slower air speed. Poor PIC decision making caused the crash, not the construction of the aircraft model.
I'm not sure who hanger 9 has building their planes but if you have a chance to see their uncovered airframe the first thing you notice is how conservative they are with glue and basswood. You can't trust the super glue hinges either, but that's a problem that might not show up for a few years. All of the ARTF/RTF stuff I've bought is the same way. Rebuild, reinforce, recover, and refly bud!
Watched at 1080p, 50% speed. You can see the wingtip just inside the leading edge light flex then sheer off around the wing strut. It's really hard to tell, but did you have the flaps going as well? Maybe as flaperons/flap-aileron mix? If you are looking for aerobatic planes that size look at the Legacy Aviation line from ExtremeFlightRC. Pretty popular at my field but I can't afford to fly/lose anything bigger than an 80" seagull models.
Pretty sure Phoenix model in Vietnam builds H9 planes. Not sure this exact one but in a recent video from the Phoenix model factory, there were a stack of H9 planes waiting to ship out.
So sad. Beautiful plane. I have 2 similar ones. God who picked the music for this? I had to watch it on mute it was so repetitive and annoying. Would have loved to hear the conversation but God.
The NTSB has determined that running up the engine in pre-flight placing excessive point loads on each side of each wing, instead of supporting the tail or the fuselage has caused the fatal wing spar to explode under G load. I bet after reading this comment you’ll never run up another RC Aircraft again like that.
i rarely seen cub kits where as there was not enough (meat) in the strut attatchment point in the wing. Meaning i had to add my own material to where i thought is was good,,,and arf kits are even worse...
Can’t tell if he was pulling G’s or if he had aileron cranked in but the failure was right at the beginning of the aileron. Some full size planes have restriction on aileron inputs under high g loads. He may have caused the damage earlier in the routine and vibration etc. caused it to finally let go.
I watch the other video of this CRASH and I have flown models for close to 60 years and there is one thing that I have Learned over the years is that ALL AIRPLANES models or full scale have a MEMORY of the stress that they endured and over time that stress adds up untill something BREAKS and it look like this airplane was overstressed one time too many!
As plane as day ! right aileron flutter Giant size airplanes, require giant, torque, servos, and control linkages It’s called servo holding power That had nothing to do with the manufacturer
be interesting to hear what horizon says that's a lot of money for their cheap as fault, they build them cheap as hell but charge you big time for Chinese junk
Absolutely INSANE ! Subjecting this type of NON-sport aircraft to such EXTREME G-forces ( Gravitational - forces ). Pilot first needs an evaluation & observation before being allowed to fly model-scale or more importantly, full-scale ever again.
I'm wondering if the mid strut brace came loose and popped the covering. It didn't seem to be a speed issue, more likely a covering failure or internal failure.
That is a damn shame and should never have happened! Why ARF manufacturers can't make a strong plane is beyond me. I'm really sorry for you. I seldom purchase an already built plane unless I know who built it. I prefer to build my own,
Its a carbon cub....should take that kind of abuse.......Could it have been aileron flutter ? Did the control horn or aileron linkage fail ? Or the servo ? Or the hinge failed ?
Why does anyone think they can fly an airplane that is not designed for stunts in real life? Would you fly it that way if you were in it? Buy a pitts special or an equivalent. I'd used to spend months building RC balsa models and to crash them devastated me. Now people don't G A Sh-t. Sorry dude you got what you deserved flying like that a wrecked plane.
Why does anyone think they can fly an airplane that is not designed for stunts in real life? Would you fly it that way if you were in it? Buy a pitts special or an equivalent. I'd used to spend months building RC balsa models and to crash them devastated me. Now people don't G A Sh-t. Sorry dude you got what you deserved flying like that a wrecked plane.
Why does anyone think they can fly an airplane that is not designed for stunts in real life? Would you fly it that way if you were in it? Buy a pitts special or an equivalent. I'd used to spend months building RC balsa models and to crash them devastated me. Now people don't G A Sh-t. Sorry dude you got what you deserved flying like that a wrecked plane.
Why does anyone think they can fly an airplane that is not designed for stunts in real life? Would you fly it that way if you were in it? Buy a pitts special or an equivalent. I'd used to spend months building RC balsa models and to crash them devastated me. Now people don't G A Sh-t. Sorry dude you got what you deserved flying like that a wrecked plane.
Why does anyone think they can fly an airplane that is not designed for stunts in real life? Would you fly it that way if you were in it? Buy a pitts special or an equivalent. I'd used to spend months building RC balsa models and to crash them devastated me. Now people don't G A Sh-t. Sorry dude you got what you deserved flying like that a wrecked plane.
Ah, so sad. Sorry for the loss. My loss, however, was straining to listen to crash dialog because of 4 notes being repeated for almost 15. Minutes, drowning out the conversation . Didn’t care about the aircraft at the end. Just stop the torture!!
Sorry about the loss of a gorgeous airplane, but what a spectacular crash! And you have it on video, too. Farmers around where I live have a real problem with people trampling their crops. I hope yours was understanding or at least unaware.
that's the correct thought no thought of offering the farmer twenty bucks for damage just hope he is unaware of you in his field trampling around instead of cleaning it up and getting out in a timely fashion
Where did you see the crash? All I saw, was the peice of wing fluttering down.
I wouldn't let you fly my planes. You flew the wings right off yours. Sorry for your losses for this was some serious green backs.
You could tell the pilot had been dead for awhile by the time they found him. He was stiff as a board.
A scale plane needs to be flown in a scale fashion. That crash is a 100% pilot induced event from very poor pilot in command flying. Every single one of the maneuvers shown could have been performed with less power and at slower air speed. Poor PIC decision making caused the crash, not the construction of the aircraft model.
I'm not sure who hanger 9 has building their planes but if you have a chance to see their uncovered airframe the first thing you notice is how conservative they are with glue and basswood. You can't trust the super glue hinges either, but that's a problem that might not show up for a few years. All of the ARTF/RTF stuff I've bought is the same way. Rebuild, reinforce, recover, and refly bud!
Watched at 1080p, 50% speed. You can see the wingtip just inside the leading edge light flex then sheer off around the wing strut. It's really hard to tell, but did you have the flaps going as well? Maybe as flaperons/flap-aileron mix?
If you are looking for aerobatic planes that size look at the Legacy Aviation line from ExtremeFlightRC. Pretty popular at my field but I can't afford to fly/lose anything bigger than an 80" seagull models.
Pretty sure Phoenix model in Vietnam builds H9 planes. Not sure this exact one but in a recent video from the Phoenix model factory, there were a stack of H9 planes waiting to ship out.
it almost looked liked the le. of the right wing opened up. NTSB en route
That's how my uncle's full-size cub crashed back in the 60's with he and his family aboard. RIP
So sad. Beautiful plane. I have 2 similar ones. God who picked the music for this? I had to watch it on mute it was so repetitive and annoying. Would have loved to hear the conversation but God.
Maybe the same dummy that recorded it in portrait mode.
The NTSB has determined that running up the engine in pre-flight placing excessive point loads on each side of each wing, instead of supporting the tail or the fuselage has caused the fatal wing spar to explode under G load. I bet after reading this comment you’ll never run up another RC Aircraft again like that.
Too many G's?
I don't know
Absolutely!
Lots too many...
Had to stop watching after I realized the loud background music wasn’t going to change or end. Sorry for the loss of your plane
Yes. Would have much rather heard the comments being made instead of the music. Bad editing.
i rarely seen cub kits where as there was not enough (meat) in the strut attatchment point in the wing. Meaning i had to add my own material to where i thought is was good,,,and arf kits are even worse...
It's an ARF Almost Ready to Fail, built in China, on an assembly line. I've recovered a few ARF airplanes. They are not glued very well.
Maybe you should send the video to the manufacturer and see if they will give you a replacement!
Can’t tell if he was pulling G’s or if he had aileron cranked in but the failure was right at the beginning of the aileron. Some full size planes have restriction on aileron inputs under high g loads. He may have caused the damage earlier in the routine and vibration etc. caused it to finally let go.
That's also where the wing struts attach.
As my instructor told me many years ago. right after he crashed my airplane doing a figger 9. Shit happens.
I watch the other video of this CRASH and I have flown models for close to 60 years and there is one thing that I have Learned over the years is that ALL AIRPLANES models or full scale have a MEMORY of the stress that they endured and over time that stress adds up untill something BREAKS and it look like this airplane was overstressed one time too many!
They call it fatigue
@@pinkdoughnut869 yes stress fatigue and it adds up over time!!!
That’s too bad…..beautiful plane ! That’s not where I was thinking it was going to break.😔👍🙋♂️🖖🏻
You damaged the corn 🌽
The guy incharge of applying the glue called in sick that day it was built
As plane as day !
right aileron flutter
Giant size airplanes, require giant, torque, servos, and control linkages
It’s called servo holding power
That had nothing to do with the manufacturer
be interesting to hear what horizon says that's a lot of money for their cheap as fault, they build them cheap as hell but charge you big time for Chinese junk
Absolutely INSANE ! Subjecting this type of NON-sport aircraft to such EXTREME G-forces ( Gravitational - forces ). Pilot first needs an evaluation & observation before being allowed to fly model-scale or more importantly, full-scale ever again.
Wrong. That wing should have taken that.
To the Pilots credit he was wearing a seatbelt
The DTSB report said that the pilot exceeded the Vne speed, causing the right wing panel to disintegrate.
I'm wondering if the mid strut brace came loose and popped the covering. It didn't seem to be a speed issue, more likely a covering failure or internal failure.
Who is going to pay for the corn destruction ?
Even in slow motion that plane was over speeding lol. Way too fast and it broke out at the strut. Pilot error
Most irritating music it takes away from the video
Needed, one carbon fiber tube.
That is a damn shame and should never have happened! Why ARF manufacturers can't make a strong plane is beyond me. I'm really sorry for you. I seldom purchase an already built plane unless I know who built it. I prefer to build my own,
CHINESE.
@@tobysmith4662 Yup
BUMMER DUDE!!!!!
Fly,n that way is fun but....its a Cub not an Extra. Sorry about the crash.
PIC problem
It’s a high wing airframe NOT an aerobat nuff said
There are high wing aerobatic aircraft. Decathlon, Citabria spelled backwards is Airbatic. nuff said.
Its a carbon cub....should take that kind of abuse.......Could it have been aileron flutter ? Did the control horn or aileron linkage fail ? Or the servo ? Or the hinge failed ?
Wing flutter quite clearly in the video slo mo.
there is 2k gone
so sad.been there,done that
Uh, that ain't no 'recovery'. That there's a 'salvage'.
Why does anyone think they can fly an airplane that is not designed for stunts in real life? Would you fly it that way if you were in it? Buy a pitts special or an equivalent. I'd used to spend months building RC balsa models and to crash them devastated me. Now people don't G A Sh-t. Sorry dude you got what you deserved flying like that a wrecked plane.
You can clearly seethe right aileron flutter. That will rip a wing apart
I'm sorry dude, that really fucking sucks.
thats not a wing failure, i also had this plane, you were going to fast, fast flying is not good for cups, full throttle flying is not good sry
music is sickening, pick it up and clean up your mess in the farmer's field
I was thinking how ANY plane can be broken...
China
Chinese junk...
You need to do your research before marking an inaccurate comment. The are made in Yakima, Washington
So that's not a failure due to the assembly of the kit. That's a failure from the company.
That is wat happends if you are pushes your luck to far..... greetz from Germany
My God that music is awful
Too fast with that pull. Wing was overloaded. Too bad. They were not designed for that speed and g load.
ARF is complete garbage!!! Bad design, way too much engine and look at the construction it’s basically covering, complete crap
this model is designed for a bigger engine than he had its supposedly good for a 222
Chinese.
sorry....but it looks for me....that the pilot wants to destroy the plane in the air.....and he did it......
Why does anyone think they can fly an airplane that is not designed for stunts in real life? Would you fly it that way if you were in it? Buy a pitts special or an equivalent. I'd used to spend months building RC balsa models and to crash them devastated me. Now people don't G A Sh-t. Sorry dude you got what you deserved flying like that a wrecked plane.
Why does anyone think they can fly an airplane that is not designed for stunts in real life? Would you fly it that way if you were in it? Buy a pitts special or an equivalent. I'd used to spend months building RC balsa models and to crash them devastated me. Now people don't G A Sh-t. Sorry dude you got what you deserved flying like that a wrecked plane.
Why does anyone think they can fly an airplane that is not designed for stunts in real life? Would you fly it that way if you were in it? Buy a pitts special or an equivalent. I'd used to spend months building RC balsa models and to crash them devastated me. Now people don't G A Sh-t. Sorry dude you got what you deserved flying like that a wrecked plane.
Why does anyone think they can fly an airplane that is not designed for stunts in real life? Would you fly it that way if you were in it? Buy a pitts special or an equivalent. I'd used to spend months building RC balsa models and to crash them devastated me. Now people don't G A Sh-t. Sorry dude you got what you deserved flying like that a wrecked plane.