Mercedes CLC220 CDI 2010 randomly not starting and cutting out. Fault finding and repair.
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This car came to me with a really weird problem...
The car would randomly cut out while driving, with no pattern at all...
After starting to diagnose the car, I have noticed something that was not initially mentioned by the owner...
The car would also randomly fail to start!
No codes on the engine ECU, and no relevant codes on the other ones...
In the end was actually this fail to start, that lead me to find the problem, not just the fail to start, but also the cutting out problem...
Follow me on this video to find out what was the problem in the end...
There was a twist during the diagnostic and repair...
So if you don't want to watch the start, where I was actually "walking" in the wrong direction, jump to • Mercedes CLC220 CDI 20... where the diagnostic to the real problem started...
Hope you enjoy the video.
Any questions or comments, please just put them below.
Like always, thank you for watching!
You are god send ! I just brought a clc220 cdi with the exact same problem , you just saved me so much money ! Thank you so much for putting your time and effort into this educational video ! All the best to you
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Great that this helped you!
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Your a Star. I have that same foult.
Same car evrything no one could find the foult. I just did your fix and it was a challenge to take the board off. Three and half later its fixed. So far working good not turning itself off and starting right again
Thanks Ed
That's great!
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You made me laughwhen the plunger & spring went flying and you commented on stuff we all have done. Nice diagnosis & repair Luis!
Hayward's Automotive
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Respect to you sir, this kind of fault finding and fixing is at times very mind bogling. You have all kinds of reasons why a car would cut out, but the combination with no dash and no lights on at times at least put you on the right track... Can be tricky though! Very nice to see you don't just replace items when faulty but try to find the real root cause (making you better understand problems in the meantime).
Could not agree more...
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I had this and sent my key and barrel to get fixed. Top tip: reach up behind the barrel and unscrew the locating ring. Saves you taking the dash apart 👍🏼
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We're did u get it sent and how much
@@lewisconnell1234 I can't remember now. I rang a guy in London who recommended a guy up north so I sent the key and barrel to him. Cost about £250 I think. Never happened again after that. I'm sure if you Google it you will find someone call them and ask, can't hurt
I have the exact same problem with my 59 plate clc.I have been through a similar process to yourself with trying to diagnose the problem and in the end I took it to a Mercedes specialist. They have told me that I need a new ignition switch and the part would cost £450 and with labour it would come to £600, I would also have to provide them with proof of identity and proof of ownership etc as it is a part of the car security system.
When the car cuts out while driving it mostly will re-start but if the engine is cold or you are going slow it cuts completely and you loose the power steering and power assisted brakes and has caused me some uncomfortable moments.
I am very grateful for your video and intend to have a go at this repair in a couple of weeks time. You do not seem to have used any special tools to get the ignition switch out of the car and you don't show how to take the switch apart so I guess this is within the realms of someone with basic mechanical skils ?
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Indeed... the ignition switch is removed by undo the front ring... just turn it anti clockwise... as is threaded...
To open the switch, I am sure you will easily figure it out... is not rocket science...
Hope you get it sorted!
Thank you for watching!
An excellent piece of work! I have a 2007 CLK 320 CDI with the same intermittent fault. The previous owner spend over £1,800 trying to get this fixed with replacement ECU etc. You even demonstrated you could get the switch out without removing the steering column…. Well done and thank you!
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If only all mechanics were like you ✌🏻
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wow I really like how the diag tool shows all the inputs / outputs for the system on one single screen
James Lee
Indeed... it can be very handy!
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Same problem here! The next electrical box for the mirrors can also go bad.. Thanks man!
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Excellent diagnosis and repair of sophisticated European high end luxury cars..
Euardo Acosta
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luxury maintenance cost 🙂 Parts designed for top profits 👍🏻
good work friend and the doubt that I have left and you could also have diagnosed the transporter's signal with an opcilloscope and but the key was a mechanical failure that gives a lot of those cars greetings from Spain a big hug
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You are the best my goodness cannot believe how good you are I have the same problem and I'm going to try to fix it the same way what you did wish me luck..... thank you so much
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Hello sir, excellent, thanks. Have these intermittent problems currently. No problems when the engine is cold, but once it gets hot, it's hard to start this damn car. Sometimes, on my way home, while I am driving and the car is running well, flashlights come up at the dashboard, speedometer and tachometer arrows go to zero, the radiotor fan just starts blowing full speed and the AC goes down. After touching the key or pulling over and restarting, it ignites again. Driving me crazy. Inam fairly confident that THAT is the issue. Notice, then problem occurs when the engine is hot (the metal becomes elastic aaand there it goes, physics 101)
It is a good possibility that is the same as here...
Now you know what yo look for!
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@@LMAutoRepairs I am so stupid, I probably know exactly how this occurred. I added several other keys to my car key (it looked like as if im a genitor in a warehouse) and drove a while with them, very bad idea.
Mine is W203, C200, 2000 btw, but the key structure is almast similar
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That moment when you unintentionally catapulted that spring made me laugh so much. I laught even more at those second or two pause after spring has just flew away. I remember similar situation in video where you droped Peugeot transponder... Hahaha
nemanja dzombic
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It is one of those things... ehehehe
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Wow, bloody hell Luis just too good, What else can I say, !!! 👍
Cars Exposed
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Thank you for watching Igor!
Seems like a very intricate and delicate system, so many possible failure points.
Even bmw's older system where you put the keyfob into a hole and then hold the clutch/brake and hit the start button must be more reliable.
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The BMW system is indeed different...
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@@LMAutoRepairs You're doing real good work with these videos. Usually other mechanics end their videos with a parts change and now it's fixed, but you delve deep and actually expose the underlying issue in the part. I'm sure it's a lot more work but also makes you stand out here on youtube, it's phenomenal keep it up!
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You are a very smart and skilled person. Thank you for your video lessons. Nice repair
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I do my best..
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I bet you used to take all your toys apart as a kid as well. Great video. 👍
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I used to... my mum used to go mental... lol 😋
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Best channel I know on youtube.
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Lol
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There’s nothing like trying something spring loaded in a messy shed 🤣
I started shouting “ignition switch, ignition switch” right at the beginning. 🤗🤗 🏅🏅
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😨 thank you for showing the fix I always wanted to know how does thing works awesome job
No worries...
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Excellent Demonstration the best I’ve seen on this No Start No Turn plus random Stall when stopping , I have exactly the same problem on my CLK 220 CDI , I usually switch off and writing each the steering wheel to and fro which seems to help so it’s somewhere in the Ignition Switch .
Should I Risk just have a New Switch fitted 😢
Possibly... but the electronic side is programmed to the car, is not a simple swap...
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VERY GOOD DIAGNOSIS VIDEO WITHOUT ANY SKIP
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You're a wizard!Well done!
Zsolt Gyarmati
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Absolutely amazing. Can you pop over to my yard and fix my EIS? I've got the exact same problems with a CLK I've only just bought but because the scanner won't throw up any fault codes everyone says the car's perfect. It's actually a potential death-trap if I lose power whilst going around a bend at speed.
It can indeed...
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Great Job...excellent video,as you think outside the box not as others do,and waste time and money
I think I was a bit lucky that the issue happened while the car was here... Otherwise it could have been tricky to find the issue.... :-)
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GREAT VIDEO , it's funny how it did not throw no ignition starting system codes .
8power0
I know... that was also weird... 🤔
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I guess there is no sensor to tell the FUEL INJECT Computer... got to be a doctor to know!!
Very interesting problem. You did well to find the answer.
binarybox
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Excellent repair, thanks for sharing.
Star is a very good tool.
Mambre Khachatryan
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Get yourself a anti-static mat and a wrist strap and an earthing plug. Good work.
Malcolm Symonds
I will have to...
Luckily, so far so good...😋
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lols you make my day bro.... greetings from malaysia. Repair ECU 1 Malaysia team.
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I always enjoy how you take a daunting diagnosis and repair and through careful analysis make it look straight forward. I recall you did a video on a diagnostic main board pointing out a cheap chip set and a preferred set and board.Any pointers on where to get better Star, Veda and Das systems on eBay? Did yours come with the Panasonic toughbook? I have seen many on sale but difficult to discern which are best and have complete software,not cheap limited versions. Don't want to import all the way to NZ as it is costly to return for refund/ repairs etc
Peter datechmen
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I got my system indeed with the laptop...
I got it on eBay as well...
Clones are always a gamble, in my case I looked for a seller with a good reputation, and that was for some time in the business... I also picked up the tool myself, although I understand that my not be an option for you...
Just make sure the seller, the feedbacks etc inspiring confidence.
You can also a
Have a look here... cardiagtool.co.uk
I have no affiliation with this site, but u buy most of my tools from there... do it at your own risk.
Thank you for the nice comment and for watching my content!
Why would the valve on the rail show a voltage of 2.8v which was out of spec?
Yep enjoyed as always, you very nearly ....Ed up, happens to us all,the rail sensor is on its last legs ,thay can course so many faults,same Bosch sensor ,fitted many applications,hondas,2.2 . Anyway I enjoyed your video,great logic,thanks.
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Hi man great videos thank you very much god bless you man . Sorry if i may ask where can i get the star diag exactly like yours sir .Thank you inadvance
There is plenty of places, eBay being one of them...
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Best Tech😎 you're awesome, really appreciate your work & even more when you share this valuable information with us😍
Stay Blessed😎
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Excellent fault finding your knowledge is on par with master technicians. Is your background/job in the electronics industry or are you self taught ?
Dddd Cccc
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Self taught... my main job has nothing to do with electronics or cars...
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great video always keen to find temp fix at roadside will try on merc
juwee khan
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Thanks m6. I have same issue. Been bugging me for ages
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Good job but for me the best way is to change the hole key switch complete it happens to me in Mazda.
Yes...
The entire key switch would then require keys to be programmed, plus the ESL...
Too much for something this simple...
In my opinion...😊
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AMAZING APROACH AND REPAIR......KEEP IT UP.....
TCI FUSION
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Yo blessed but 1 thing i was concerned and wondered why you didn't start the vehicle?
Other than this you did a great job i watched it all.
thank you.
You have not watched the entire video...😉
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I did
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If you did, you will see that the engine is running at the end of the video...
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@@LMAutoRepairs oh ya my mistake it's running sound like a disle engine thanks a lot for all your great work.
I have just bought a 2008 CLK with the same problem. When scanned the car shows no fault codes so the guy who sold me the car won't try to fix it because he says he can't claim on the warranty unless he can quote the codes that are identified when scanned and because the faults are intermittent I can't recreate the issue so he can see for himself.
Yes... it can be tricky when faults are not logged...
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a text book example of classic stupid over engineering.... absolutely crazy.. look how complicated, complex and expensive that module is.... just to turn on the ignition and start the engine
Unfortunately that is how the majority of the cars are manufactured nowadays...
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Nice work.
Very meticulous. 💪
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you're brilliant ... best video ever
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Hi mate, I have the same problem, would you like to fix it ?
Brilliant explanation.
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For the switch inside ezs i do a two wire outside and iput key inside ezs and i push it manualy becose i have not a new ezs it worked for me
Great job as always!
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Clever chap!
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Excellant job Luis .... Problem in fuel pressure solonoid could disable cranking in mercedes cars?
Dev Dessai
On most of the common rail cars really...
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You are the master. Thumbs up.
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Nice video, with good info, thanks and keep up
Global Car Parts
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Really great video mate keep up the great work
Paul Mayou
Hi Paul!... long time no see...
How are you?
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Hi buddy ive been busy catching up on youtube aint forgot you buddy i aint too bad loving the weather hope your well
Exact same fault as mine - thanks!!! What’s the easiest way to fix this as I’m not going to try it!? 👍
All in the video...
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Good work.thank you.star scanner are pretty kool
Upkar Batth
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Yes, is a very nice tool...
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Genius. Brilliant video's
Chris
Thank you for watching, really appreciated!
superb video
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Hello thanks for the video one of the best video i have seen
sadik mamoun
Thank you Sadik...
Thank you for this video! I was worried I had serious problem with immobiliser or even auto-box. Would you recommend I take this to a car electrician, or a local-mechanic to get the fix done? How much should they charge me for this? Since I know this is the problem I can show them your video how to fix it.
Well... are you 100% sure that this is your exact problem?
A couple of hours labour I would say...
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@@LMAutoRepairs yes it does seem exactly the same. Although mine the problem happens much less often. Great channel, thanks for the vids :D
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And tnks realy thanks you do your best and trust me you do a very nice job
Have a not so similar problem with my w202 220cdi, car cranks, starts and stalls in seconds, if I let it crank for 20/30 seconds then it runs, curious thing is, if I unplug the rail pressure sensor, the car starts and runs with no problem, replace the sensor, but the problem wasn't solved, do you have come across something similar? Thanks for the video and well done.
Never came across that particular issue...
But check live data... if you believe is fuel pressure related, monitor those pressures...
Consider the replacement sensor not being good either... check also wiring etc...
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@@LMAutoRepairs thank you for taking the time to reply, starting to think it's more complicated than I expected, injectors are gone, but compression in cylinders are also very low, all that and loads of electrical issues with abs pump, brake pedal sensors. Not finished with these one I guess.
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Looks like you have something in your hands...
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Hi, i wonder if you can you do this on the rear SAM module for a mercedes ML 350. Thanks!
Most likely yes...
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mate i have the same kinda problem with a mercedes a class 2005
Great video..I have the same problem on my clk..are you london based?
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No... no London based...
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Good job like Always .im looking for an mb start where did you get yours?
Noureddine benguermit
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I got my one from eBay...
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Exselete diagnostic amigo nice video
Mechanic Technician Repair
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Hi man, do you reckon its better just buying an ignition switch of ebay and getting my mechanic to replace it? Thanks for your video! I have an appointment with Mercedes and cant afford a big repair!
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Not really... this contains the immo info etc... if you just replace it with another one, the car will not start...
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LM Auto Repairs hi mate. Thanks for replying. So what should I do? I got a diagnostic quote for £130 for mercedes
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What do you mean, 130 from Mercedes to diagnose, or repair?
LM Auto Repairs just to diagnose
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I don't know what to say... I can't really help you any further... sorry
I Luis; where do I start. My car has been in out of limp mode for last year. It's a 2004 c220 cdi - UK version. The EML is on constantly; drives but no power above 3000 rpm. Can hear the whistle from the turbo but no real power. What should I do?
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Scan the car and look at live data...
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these Benz cars need frequent maintenance and repair by either yourself or someone else.
Its one problem after another... so try to keep up!
Nice laptop you got over there.I just purchased one for myself ,mk5 cf-19.Does yours is bios blocked?
Can't remember now... if I ever tried to go into the bios...
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Bro you are amazing ......
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Thank you , great video.
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I had the exact same issue with Mercedes c220 cutting out and the position 2 on occasions going blank, I tried all the steps in the video with EIS but still have fault with ignition 2 position. Any ideas as to what may be fault please. Thank you
Check and double check that you have not missed anything...
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I have got clc 59 plate I've got a exactly same problem how do solve this do i go to electrician or garage?
Have you watched the video?
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I have a 2005 clk 220cdi with similar interion (my cluster is silver and white) have random cutting out....cold...hot motorway (engine completely dead for 1 sec then back fine...junction (stall). Pulls well....turbo all good...cant find any leaks....but never an issue starting...only cuts out randomely...pulls well, runs well. Do you think I may have same issue? Also....did the owners woes stop?
P2356 powertrain, p2386 powertrain and body code B2TAE. These are fault codes that keep coming back. Body code is intermittent. I use a naff "torque" app.
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There is possibility of being a similar issue to this one.... but, I would tackle those faults first... and go from there.
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I would tackle the fault codes...but I cannot pin any of them down as yet! Do you have any idea what they refer to?
@@LMAutoRepairs hello...still having the issue. Same codes but body code never comes back now. Do you know what these codes refer to on a 2005 clk coupe 220cdi?
@@LMAutoRepairs B1036 “the input circuit 61 is not ok” very consistent code. Also no electricity passing through fuse 52 on front Sam “start enable” I feel I am getting close! Where is circuit 61; any ideas?
Hi my car is doing the same can u fix it
love your videos.thaks
Naushad Ali
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nice repair big thumbs up 👍
allan mitchell
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Where aboutsxare you based Luis? I have the same issue on my 220cdi 2008, front sam changed but not solved, I’m adamant it’s yhis issue ehichbuouve shown in this video. I’m in the north west
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I am South...
But I am quite busy at the moment... sorry...
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Well done....👍👍👍👍
Thanks!
Hi! I have a c220 cdi w203 105kw diesel 2001. when the engine is cold starter but after 10 or 15 minutes the engine stalling. i replaced crankshaft sensor and opened the engine. everything was ok. the crankshaft chain and timing was good. the fuel system also ok both sensor and pressure. can you help me what i have to do next
Have you scanned the car?
And monitored live data etc?
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Hi! I have a c220 cdi w203 105kw diesel 2001. when the engine is cold starter but after 10 or 15 minutes the engine stalling. i replaced crankshaft sensor and opened the engine. everything was ok. the crankshaft chain and timing was good. the fuel system also ok both sensor and pressure. can you help me what i have to do nextHi! I have a c220 . when the engine stalling i have wait for 2 3 or 4 hours to start again
Have you scanned the car?
And monitored live data etc?
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hello luis. what s the name of that diagnostic machine and where to get it.
mark chris
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Star... just search for Mercedes Star diagnostic.
I got my one from eBay...
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Thank you....thank you
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@@LMAutoRepairs best ignition switch internal component tear down and explanation. So awesome. Now i know which component can go mechanical fatigue. I have push button start, but i keep it in glove box, as i love real key in ignition slot. Safer for me in terms of confirmed ignition 1 and 2 position. Thanks once more for your kind sharing🤗
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Not a problem...
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Good work.
lascar48
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Nice video, great job!
I want to be your assistent :)
Rui Miguel
You never know... 😉
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What type of scan tool is that?
Star...
Just Google it...
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good job
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Nice video sir ☺️
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I use orange 5to read 9s12
Nice brother
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Hi. I have this issue it’s been going on for months now. Driving me insane. I need it sorted. Are you anywhere near Kent ?
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Not, I am not near...
Have you confirmed that the root cause is the same?
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LM Auto Repairs it’s most definitely the same issue. I think I found someone that may tackle it for me. The vehicle wants to cut out and underpowered. But all starts from the start up issue.
LM Auto Repairs does the key have to be recoded again ?
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No... if, the problem is the same...
The Best...
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Very nice
Gharbi Mecatronicien
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Excellent work👌🏻👌🏻 you got yourself on Facebook yet?
John Taylor
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Will be soon...
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How did you get the circuit board off
If I recall correctly, needs desolder some bits...
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Really nice amusing thanks a lot genius
Nidal Maafi
Lol
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