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The director of this film, Louis Letterier, said that he wanted this film to be structured similarly to how the Hulk TV series was; in the sense that it was a “man on the run” on a quest for a cure. There are a few call backs and references to moments, scenes, and characters from The Incredible Hulk TV show. The most notable moment; one that wasn’t featured here, would be the appearance of Lou Ferrigno (the original Hulk) as a security guard who got bribed by the pizza Banner was delivering.
@@christopherferrarelli2262 I didn't say anything in the moment, but I did feel like I recognize him! I followed a lot of bodybuilders back in the day so I think I recognize him from that.
Although there are creatures and beings out there with a higher base strength than Hulk, his true power is that his strength is fuelled by his anger and has no limit. The angrier you make him, the stronger he keeps getting.
Not only strength, but speed, endurance, toughness, everything physical, not just strength. This is why in a fight, it is theoretically impossible for Superman to beat The Hulk.
FYI: Lou Ferigno, who played the Hulk in the TV series, cameos as the security guard given the pizza. Bill Bixby, who played Banner, had already passed, so they paid tribute to him by showing Ed Norton's Banner watch him on TV. The "You wouldn't like me when I'm hungry." line is a comical takeoff on the commonly used line in the TV series, "Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry." Enjoying your reactions to this series.
Hull just turn back into banner once his anger subsides or he falls asleep. When you saw him get "cured", he slowly transforms back to Bruce. That's how he goes back and forth. Anger creates the gamma pulse that turns him into the hulk, emotions like love or tranquility will transform him back into Bruce.
False. Hulk has dissociative identify disorder (at least in the comic books, although nothing I've seen in the movies refutes that). He turns from one to the other based on which personality takes over. Generally, when Banner gets angry or is in danger, the Hulk personality takes over. When Hulk is no longer in danger, Banner comes back. This is often how multiple personalities works: certain personalities are created to deal with certain kinds of trauma. It's not the danger that causes the transformations, the danger causes a different personality to manifest, and one of those personalities has superpowers. It's possible that the movies will not choose to go this route, or may choose to ignore this character detail, but so far it looks to me like this is the case.
Except in the movie it explains any instance in which his heart rate gets too high he changes, that's why they couldn't sleep together so clearly the movie is following slightly different rules
As already said by others, Lou Ferrigno, the bodybuilder who was the Hulk in the TV series of the late 70s/early 80s, made a cameo as a security guard on this movie. What WASN'T said yet is that the instructor that slaps Bruce Banner at the beginning of the movie is Rickson Gracie, a Brazilian former fighter at the origins of the UFC, and son of Hélio Gracie, one of the founders of the Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu martial art. Rickson was a fierce fighter back in the day, very famous for going his entire career undefeated. He even once challenged Mike Tyson for a no-rules fight, boasting he would win (Tyson declined to accept).
I like how you are trying to go into all of these blindly. It is kind of fun seeing and figuring things out for the first time .... and its fun watching someone go through this. I do like your after movie talk as well.
A lot of people assumed that the Hulk was based on Dr Jekyll and Mister Hyde, but later, Stan Lee revealed that the inspiration was the Frankenstein movie. Specifically, Stan Lee felt sorry for the monster when the villagers were chasing him. Yes, Bruce Banner's blood is incredibly dangerous and everyone is after it. It can give random superpowers, or make people sick. It's one of the awful things Banner has to deal with. This might look like a spoiler, but I promise it's not. It's something comic book readers know that the movie makers keep in mind even if they have not yet directly used this in any of the movies. In the comic books, it was revealed by a psychiatrist named Samson that Banner has dissociative identify disorder. Hulk is a personality he created to deal with abuse as a child. When that accident happened, Hulk got superpowers and the Banner personality didn't. So far, this detail has not been officially revealed in the movies, but several things have hinted at this part of his story. Anyway, it is not actually anger or danger that causes the transformation. Anger or danger triggers the manifestation of a different personality, and THAT causes the transformation. In the comic books, Hulk and Banner hate each other and fight over who gets to manifest when. Sometimes they come to an agreement. The one rule between them that always holds is that they never hurt someone the other loves. No matter how much or how little they hate each other, that rule always applies. It's a detail that the film markers know will be in the minds of comic book fans, so they hint at it from time to time. I have no idea if they ever plan to deal with that side is his story in the movies. Abomination is weaker than Hulk, but he has combat training. Hulk gets stronger the angrier he gets, but that's the rub: angry people don't think as clearly. Someone who is sufficiently strong, but has advanced combat training can exploit that.
Great movie. Norton was a great bruce banner. Fun watching your reaction. Especially how your eyes lit up when you realized it was Tony stark in the credits scene lol. Side note, green looks great on you 😁👍
"HULK SMASH!" is sorta The Hulks signature line from the comics. I don't think it is much of a spoiler to say it comes up routinely around him. And the recap thing at the beginning I think was more of a nod to the fact that this story has been told several times in several movies and TV series, so, they didn't have to go too in depth about it, and are telling a different story.
Good news, the dog was only tranquilized. They wanted to capture Banner, not kill him. Of course, the dog might not survive a tranq dose meant for a human, but likely the dog just slept it off.
Hulk from 2003 gets a lot of crap from a ton of people but I do personally think that it's far better than people give it credit as it tackles issues that never really gets talked about in most superhero films. While it's not directly tied to the MCU, it does share some of the same canon as the comics, which obviously is where much of the MCU takes its story ques from. I do think it's still worth a watch. Plus, the director Ang Lee has made some of my favorite films over the years. "Brokeback Mountain" "Life of Pi" and "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" All commentaries on human emotions and the lived experiences that makes us who we are.
The opening credits of this movie are a homage to the opening of the 70's Hulk TV show and as other commenters have mentioned that shows Hulk shows up in this movie as a security guard.
40:00 It does not recap any prior movie/video game/cartoon, but it has the homage to the Bixby/Ferigno television origin and details connecting to the MCU. Stark tech, SHIELD, Nick Fury, and mentions characters from the comics under surveillance. During the battle on the campus, the two students watching from the tree are Jim Wilson and Jack McPhee, characters from the comics and the television show. The former was a sidekick of the Hulk for a time in Las Vegas. The latter was a reporter who worked for a newspaper who chased stories about the Hulk, believing he had killed people in his first appearance. [In the 70's, they were not going to have the army chase Hulk across the US. They saved that for the 80's when chasing the A-Team.]
I love how you wonder about characters and what will happen with them in future movies. Marvel always has a long term plan and many questions you ask along the way may eventually lead to answers. I'm still waiting for some of mine.
Hi, great reaction, thanks. You asked about what triggers the Hulk's transformation into Bruce, so here goes what I know. These are not spoilers, this is just what comic book fans know about the character. The Hulk is a separate personality from Bruce, (Stan Lee had Stated that his inspirations for the Incredible Hulk were a combination of Dr Jeckyl & Hyde and Frankenstein, so it's safe to say that there are multiple personalities at play here) so techically Bruce "comes out" when Hulk let's him back out. Usually it's when the Hulk calms down, or goes to sleep, but in the comics (Not the MCU) Bruce has escaped when the Hulk has been distracted. And that's as far as I can go on the subject without giving up any spoilers.
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Ironically, Blonski is actually stronger than Hulk. This is due to Hulk's natural ability, which is not transferred to Blonski. In any "do or die" situation that the Hulk is in, his strength will increase. So while Blonski started the fight out stronger than Hulk, by the end of the fight Hulk was actually the stronger one. Blonski came out at full maximum power, while Hulk started out at like 10% power and was probably about 60% of his max potential by the end of the fight.
LOVE your reactions & reviews, Kaiielle :) Best reaction channel on youtube hands down in my opinion. Hope you're enjoying your Marvel journey so far and can't wait to see more from you!
as someone new to the channel and who needs closed captions to understand people 90% of the time (yay SPD), I see your captions and I appreciate them wholeheartedly. Auto-generated ones always suck so the extra effort is very noticeable and appreciated by a great many
So, as far as the 2003 hulk movie goes I’d say it’s not necessary unless you want to see ONE OF the origin stories of the hulk (by no means is it the original origin story) but it’s in no way connected with the marvel cinematic universe (mcu) whatsoever. THIS movie however was a real treat to see in theaters. Most people didn’t know about the end credit scenes yet so if you saw tony stark in a hulk movie it was definitely worth talking about (& going to the theaters again just to see it in case you missed it). It’s probably one of the most hated mcu films (mostly from the toxic fandom imo) but I like it because it’s what really made the mcu into the mcU. [I sincerely can’t wait for you to continue with this project and I hope you enjoy the films that gave us so much joy for the past 14-15 years 🫶]
In Hulk's words "The madder Hulk gets, the stronger Hulk gets." Hulk's strength increases as he is tested and he has no upper limit. The only way to physically beat Hulk is to knock him out before his strength increases. Either that or calm him down to weaken him.
It's not really addressed much in the MCU, but Banner's Hulk states are physical manifestations tied to his DID. The one typically just called "Hulk" by other people is referred to by his system as Big Guy, since almost all of the identities manifest as Hulks. In fact, Dr. Leonard Samson (Ty Burrell's character who was dating Betty) is their therapist in the comics and discusses the system at length. Also, in the comics Betty IS the original Mr. Blue. They changed it for the movie, but left a bunch of hints about her being Mr. Blue only to have it be Sterns instead.
The reason for the rushed intro is that there had been the pre-MCU film, "Hulk" in 2003, directed by Ang Lee. So between the comics, the 1980s TV series and the film only five years earlier, it was thought that most of the audience had a general idea what the Hulk was and they only needed to sketch in the tweaks for the MCU story (military program rather than an accident) later on. Not that they didn't know they'd get some new viewers. It's completely not a shock that Betty is General Ross's daughter to comic readers (while some films compress years of comic development [Happy and Pepper don't appear until the 7th Iron Man story; Jim Rhodes didn't come along until the 1980s], Ross and Betty were in the Hulk story from day one), but they do a good job of hiding that reveal from movie audiences.
This may not be relevant anymore, and I’m sure someone already pointed it out. Around the 6:55 mark, when they infiltrate Banner’s place in Brazil, they have tranq rounds in their weapons. So when they shoot the dogs, they’re tranq-ing them, not killing them. Still not fun to watch, but I hope that brings you some comfort.
Hey there Kaiielle ;-) Subscribed after watching your Iron Man reaction and been dipping into your catalog of reactions. Great reaction on this one. Little back story for ya, no there won't be spoilers. Marvel Comics almost went bankrupt back in the 90's. They sold the movie rights to a lot of their popular characters to stay afloat. Which is why you see different movie companies putting out Marvel characters in the early 2000's. The Hulk rights were bought by Universal, which is why it's so different from Iron Man. It was made in Association with Marvel. But not solely by Marvel. It's considered Canon for the MCU, but also some fans consider it it's own individual thing. This is only the 2nd movie in the MCU and as you can see the story telling isn't bad. Characters have heart. And as the movies go on, world building and character layering gets better and better. You've opened yourself up to a big universe that will have lots of OMG's, laughs, tears and sheer wonder to it. Can't wait to see and hear your thoughts and opinions as time goes by. I just hope you have fun and enjoy yourself along the way. See ya in the next reaction. Cheers ;-)
The HULK'S X Factor is that " The ANGRIER He Gets. The STRONGER He Gets "! He Returns to Banner only when he Calms Down! FYI. When the HULK was Created back in 1963, The HULK Was Supposed to be GREY! But There was a Problem of some kind with the Printing Process and he Kept Coming out Green! So they Ran with that! And also. When he First came out , he only Changed into The HULK at Night! Like some Big Green Warewolf or Something! 😏
I absolutely hate needles and getting shots or blood drawn, but I HAVE to look lol, I don't like the idea of a sharp objects going into my arm with seeing it
So happy I can follow your MCU journey. If you would like to see Edward Norton in a much different roll watch American History X. His acting is Oscar worthy.
This film is quite often regarded as the only hard pass in the mcu universe. It's not generally well recieved and indeed many reactors (often at the behest of their audience) skip it altogether . I'm glad though that you did do it purely for continuity. Moving on though , I'm buckled in popcorn at the ready for the next one.
ignore the 2003 Hulk completely. It was a terribly executed money grab. The director never even bothered to open a Hulk comic and instead turned it into a poor attempt at a daddy issue art piece. It's not related to the MCU in any way.
Ross wasn't trying to turn Blonsky into another Hulk, he was trying to turn him into a super soldier. Something that has worked in the past with a certain hero. So, it was not technically his fault at all for Blonsky becoming the Abomination and recking havoc in Harlem. Also, most reactor don't realize this, but Tony wasn't showing up to recruit Bruce but actually Blonsky. He pissed off Ross and the man told him no and tried to kick him out the bar, but Tony flexed his money and bought it.
The Hulk is a result of Bruce Banner's experiments with recreating the Super Soldier serum from the 1940's that was lost, and using gamma radiation to trigger the effects. This resulted in unleashing Bruce's repressed childhood anger over his father beating his mother (eventually, to death) in a physical form: the Hulk. That's why when he gets angry, he loses control and this alternate personality that was formed from childhood rage takes over and transforms his body. Stan Lee meant it to be a sort of Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde type story. And I gotta tell you, there's something appealing about just letting go of all your worries and anxieties and becoming a giant green rage-monster :P The line "Don't make me angry; you wouldn't like me when I'm angry" was a callback to the original TV show from the '70's which was it's tagline. Lou Ferrigno, the bodybuilder that portrayed the Hulk in that show, is the security guard in this :) In the comics, Emil Blonsky is known officially as the Abomination, and Sam Stearns (Mr. Blue) becomes Hulk's greatest nemesis, The Leader, whose exposure to gamma made him hyperintelligent and able to shoot gamma blasts from his hands. The thing about Abomination too, is that he's about twice as strong as baseline Hulk. That's why he's mopping the floor with him at first in their fight, but as Hulk gets angrier, the stronger he becomes (it's theorized that there is no upper limit to his strength depending on just how enraged he can become), so as the fight goes on longer, the odds shift in Hulk's favor
That's the CRAP reconned story. ORIGINALLY, Dr. Banner was exposed to a Gamma Bomb explosion while saving a young man (Rick) who had strayed onto the test site. It was the radiation from that bomb that causes him to transform into THE HULK.
I wish Edward Norton could have stayed on, I liked his version of Hulk more than the next guy. I also think Edward Norton is a fantastic actor so I may have a bit of a bias.
Hello again Kaiielle, just finished your video. Great reaction. I've been a Hulk fan since I was a little kid and watched the 70s TV show with Bill Bixby and Lou Ferigno. And with that this movie was my favorite of all the different versions of Hulk. After watching your review, and hearing you say you didn't really know anything about the Hulk, it made me realize that this movie doesn't have a very good intro for who the characters are, and how they got to be in their current situations. Hopefully that didn't make it a bad movie for you. With all the different versions of Hulk's origin story, it kinda seems like they just wanted to skip it and move on with their story. Still, like you said middle of the road, but more on the good side. I'm glad you enjoyed it, and am looking forward to more. Have a great day.
If there was more backstory, this movie would have definitely been liked a lot more. That is one of my criticisms, but I've realized I didn't really dive into that much. Probably subconsciously avoided it due to nasty comments of my Man of Steel reaction, because I said I wanted more backstory and people got mad at me for it. 😅 Thank you for the nice comment!
@@kaiielle Ohh, sorry about the mean comments, sometimes comic book fans are over zealous. 🙄 Well, I enjoy hearing your comments on the movies. I always enjoy hearing people's POV's, even if they are different than mine, and yours are very interesting and thought provoking. Hopefully most commentators will agree. 😅 Thanks for the fun conversation.
@@kaiielle There is a previous Hulk movie made in 2003 by Ang Lee, which is not an MCU movie (since it predates the whole thing by five years), but this movie have a couple of references which can be interpreted that it was a predecessor for this film - like that Bruce is a fugitive for 5 years, the deaths the Hulk has caused when he was appearing for the first time... They didn't show how Bruce became Hulk, because it was done in the Ang Lee film.
Regarding your critique of the love story, there are over 30 mins of deleted scenes. Most of which deal with the boyfriend, One of the issues with Norton and Marvel is that Norton re-wrote the entire film and much of his character-building work was cut out and Norton wasn't given any credit for his writing work. Mainly as a response to the backlash of the 2003 film.
Not connected to the previous Hulk film at all. I think the beginning of the film was more of a recap for the audiences that may have seen that Hulk movie only a few years prior. They are two very different movies. Great reaction! I really enjoy this film but agreed it is high mid for me too.
So many of the smallest details connect the movies and shows and every time I watch I see more. The bar in the final bar seen I have seen repeatedly and even several times in other shows like NCISLA.
I always kinda felt bad for Blonsky (no She-Hulk spoilers included). He wasn’t the nicest guy, but he wasn’t evil, just a good soldier who just wanted a good fight. We know from Captain America & Red Skull super-soldier serums amplifies your base personality, so the untested super-serum warped Blonsky’s mind into NEEDING to fight bigger and badder opponents, until as the Abomination he just attacks everything
The 2003 movie isn't related to the MCU, other than it was a first attempt at a Hulk movie outside of the TV series from the 70's and the few TV movies that it spawned in the 80's.
Hulk's strength is fuelled by rage and anger, the angrier he gets the stronger he becomes. There is no limit to his strength, the Abomination is stronger than the Hulk in base form but as the battle progresses the Hulk will get angrier and stronger and the Abomination won't be a match for him.
So, for this movie feeling like it is from a much earlier time than Iron Man, I think that has to do with the fact that this one wasn't made by Disney. Heck, for a long time, this movie wasn't even on Disney+, because they didn't have the streaming rights for it. The whole IP rights with these Marvel characters is messy. Fox was _super_ stubborn for a long time, not letting any of their stuff even be mentioned by name in the MCU. However... Disney now _owns_ Fox, so that simplified a lot, and means that a movie coming out (hopefully) in the near future, which was a fully Fox-owned property will now be part of the MCU. Not saying which one, just that I'm very excited for it.
This is not a spoiler (I think): Samuel Sterns, in the comics, becomes The Hulk's greatest foe, The Leader. You commented that Blonsky(The Abomination) is stronger than Hulk. The only difference is that Blonsky stays at the same strength level while Hulk gets stronger the angrier he gets.
I would skip the 2003 movie, unless you are a big Hulk fan, but it's way different direction. If anything in this one they wanted to loosely link it to the late 70s early 80s TV series. The actor that portrayed the Hulk in the TV series did a cameo as a security guard in this movie, as well as using his face as the Hulk and him doing the Hulk grunts, etc.
In the comics Mr. Blue's hair turns green and he becomes known as Doc Sampson. He has like 1/3 Hulk strength, major indestructability and although he is very buff he dose not change form at all. Also was there a previous mention of your dog's name?
I grew up reading The Hulk :) THIS is the Hulk we deserve!! :) 💪😎💪 Bruce has a pretty tragic early life, and the trauma of that is how The Hulk actually got created. The gamma radiation just gave it a physical form :/
I'm sure someone has already mentioned it but when he says "You wouldn't like me when I'm hungry." is a homage to the Incredible H7lk TV show with Bill Bixby as Bruce and Lou Ferrigno as The Hulk. (I see others already pointing out he cameos as the massive security guard he gifts a pizza too) 🍕 😂🤣💪😎💪 One of Bruce's trademark lines, said in every episode, was "Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry." 😁
The key thing with Hulk is that he doesn't start out as the strongest character: Blonsky (the Abomination) and even She-Hulk are stronger than Hulk ... at first. But the angrier the Hulk gets, the stronger the Hulk gets. The rule in the comic book is put him down IMMEDIATELY, or don't try to fight him at all, because once a fight gets going, Hulk's strength climbs beyond everybody else (stronger than Thor, etc_).
Something to know about hulk if ur just starting your MCU journey, which is awesome and I can't wait to follow along 😁, but the more angry hulk gets, the stronger he gets, and his strength really has no limits. It's kind of a shame a little bit the way they've kinda mellowed him out for the MCU but he's still a powerhouse.
Banner turns into Hulk when he gets too angry or overexcited, and Hulk turns back to Banner once he calms down, but this rule changes from movie to movie, so don't pay too much attention...... (It called inconsistency, or simply bad writing)
So unlike Iron Man who is more inspired by his main Earth-616 version the origin story of the Hulk featured in this film pulls heavily from Earth-1610 also known as the Ultimate Universe but puts a spin on it that connects it to Earth-616 as well. The Ultimate Universe origin has Bruce Banner being commissioned by Nick Fury to recreate the Super Solider Serum which didn't work as planned and instead turned Banner into the Hulk. Visually the MCU Hulk looks like his Earth-616 counterpart as the Ultimate Hulk was very different having Gray skin instead of Green with a few other changes as well to his character. For the MCU Banner Is also trying to recreate the Super Solider serum but instead of Nick Fury it's Ross hoping to recreate it. This fails, and the exposure to the gamma radiation causes Banner to transform into the Hulk. They pretty much pulled the Super Solider aspect from Ultimate Universe and then exposure to Gamma radiation from Earth-616. We don't really see his origin in this film but that's the general backstory we're given in this film. Earth-616 Bruce was bombarded with a massive dose of gamma rays while saving Rick Jones, a kid who was out on the test site. This was cased by a Gamma bomb which is pretty much a nuke with extreme amounts of Gamma radiation fitting the whole 1960s Cold War setting. Overall fun film that is greatly overshadowed for a range of reasons. I'd say a good 50% of the MCU fandom forget that this film even takes place in the MCU even though Tony Stark shows up at the end.
When I first saw the film, I assumed "Mr. Blue" was transforming into a Hulk comic character 'the Leader'. Not being very familiar with Hulk characters I had to look it up, and sure enough the Leader's name in the comics is Samuel Sterns, as is Mr. Blue's in this film.
People often forget that this is an MCU film, which is a shame (though I think that’s mainly a combo of the plot rarely getting brought up and Bruce getting recast in a later entry). It’s not the best, but it’s certainly not a bad movie.
I watched this for the first time on HBO Max and I noticed a few things: Stark Industries SHIELD Tony Stark Nick Fury (mentioned in the opening credits)
Great reaction! I am a big fan of Tim Roth & Edward Norton, plus William Hurt and Liv Tyler are always good to watch, so the cast alone was enough to get me excited for this one. I have never been into the Hulk/Banner character. I don’t mind him being there for those that do find the character engaging, he is just not the kind of character I gravitate towards. You still haven’t meet my favorite character 🤐 All that being said, I enjoy this movie and do enjoy a rewatch of it now and again. This movie has some weak parts, like 98.5% of movies do, but I always found it fun and endearing, especially for a movie centered around a character I have never gravitated towards in my life of enjoying Caped Crusaders, OP Mutants, Men of Steel, several bug themed crime fighters, cats from Thundera, alien robot cars, He-Man & all the masters of the universe …..You get the idea 😜 Have a good week!
With what you said in your iron man video the newer TV shows and specials shold be watched in releace order as they do tie in with the movies, unlike the shorts or the nexflix shows. Don't want you to be lost with polt points. 👍 Also the nexflix shows, may not even been cannon but we have yet to be told either way yet.
@@kaiielle yes me too. Bunch of movies I won't see because of this. I usually have to check the website "does the dog die" to be sure I can watch it. There are some other fun Easter eggs in this movie,one that comes to mind that doesn't tie into anything else is the security guard who was bribed with pizza was the first Hulk in the TV show. Lou Ferrigno. Have fun with the Marvel movies, there's a ton.
definitely don't need to watch the 2003 Hulk although a lot will probably watch (I would). It is not directly linked to the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Previously there had been a fair bit of Hulk content, the series, the 2003 movie, the comics etc... the intro gave everyone a decent intro, so they could get started into the actual movie, rather than another origin movie. Was the second half weaker because of the action, whilst the action was decent it's where the story telling pretty much ends. Great reaction, thank you
The 2003 Hulk was a glorious trainwreck. Once you've seen more of Hulk in the MCU, it might be worth watching, because your reaction would be fun to see...
A sadly underrated movie. Marred by poor editing decisions and script shenanigans, but, this is the closest we get to seeing an accurate banner and, more importantly, Hulk. Everything afterward is a very watered down caricature of the Hulk. I love the last scene with Banner in the cabin. I swear it's the same one we see being used by another MCU character at the end of a 2021 TV show... I was on a set a few times for this as it was shot in Hamilton and Toronto. yay
One thing to note (if you didn't already know), Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk were done in different studios: Iron Man - Paramount and Hulk - Fox Studios. So, aids in why one of them was done better than the other. Luckily, Fox studios isn't really part of the equation moving forward in the MCU. Nobody comment to this about the other s**t show of a studio that produces a movie every couple of years for the MCU, because that could potentially give away some characters to her.
There are short Marvel One-Shots that fit between some movies. "The Consultant" happens between the main body of this movie and the end-credit scene. It's more funny than something you have to watch. It's also really too short for a reaction.
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The director of this film, Louis Letterier, said that he wanted this film to be structured similarly to how the Hulk TV series was; in the sense that it was a “man on the run” on a quest for a cure.
There are a few call backs and references to moments, scenes, and characters from The Incredible Hulk TV show. The most notable moment; one that wasn’t featured here, would be the appearance of Lou Ferrigno (the original Hulk) as a security guard who got bribed by the pizza Banner was delivering.
@@christopherferrarelli2262 I didn't say anything in the moment, but I did feel like I recognize him! I followed a lot of bodybuilders back in the day so I think I recognize him from that.
@@kaiielle The dog that was shot by Blonsky wasn’t killed, it was tranquilized.
Although there are creatures and beings out there with a higher base strength than Hulk, his true power is that his strength is fuelled by his anger and has no limit. The angrier you make him, the stronger he keeps getting.
Not only strength, but speed, endurance, toughness, everything physical, not just strength. This is why in a fight, it is theoretically impossible for Superman to beat The Hulk.
FYI: Lou Ferigno, who played the Hulk in the TV series, cameos as the security guard given the pizza. Bill Bixby, who played Banner, had already passed, so they paid tribute to him by showing Ed Norton's Banner watch him on TV. The "You wouldn't like me when I'm hungry." line is a comical takeoff on the commonly used line in the TV series, "Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry."
Enjoying your reactions to this series.
Hull just turn back into banner once his anger subsides or he falls asleep. When you saw him get "cured", he slowly transforms back to Bruce. That's how he goes back and forth. Anger creates the gamma pulse that turns him into the hulk, emotions like love or tranquility will transform him back into Bruce.
False. Hulk has dissociative identify disorder (at least in the comic books, although nothing I've seen in the movies refutes that). He turns from one to the other based on which personality takes over.
Generally, when Banner gets angry or is in danger, the Hulk personality takes over. When Hulk is no longer in danger, Banner comes back. This is often how multiple personalities works: certain personalities are created to deal with certain kinds of trauma. It's not the danger that causes the transformations, the danger causes a different personality to manifest, and one of those personalities has superpowers.
It's possible that the movies will not choose to go this route, or may choose to ignore this character detail, but so far it looks to me like this is the case.
Well if you go by the comics, yes you are right. I was going off what the movies present. And I don't wanna give too much away for her.
Except in the movie it explains any instance in which his heart rate gets too high he changes, that's why they couldn't sleep together so clearly the movie is following slightly different rules
As already said by others, Lou Ferrigno, the bodybuilder who was the Hulk in the TV series of the late 70s/early 80s, made a cameo as a security guard on this movie.
What WASN'T said yet is that the instructor that slaps Bruce Banner at the beginning of the movie is Rickson Gracie, a Brazilian former fighter at the origins of the UFC, and son of Hélio Gracie, one of the founders of the Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu martial art. Rickson was a fierce fighter back in the day, very famous for going his entire career undefeated. He even once challenged Mike Tyson for a no-rules fight, boasting he would win (Tyson declined to accept).
I like how you are trying to go into all of these blindly. It is kind of fun seeing and figuring things out for the first time .... and its fun watching someone go through this. I do like your after movie talk as well.
A lot of people assumed that the Hulk was based on Dr Jekyll and Mister Hyde, but later, Stan Lee revealed that the inspiration was the Frankenstein movie. Specifically, Stan Lee felt sorry for the monster when the villagers were chasing him.
Yes, Bruce Banner's blood is incredibly dangerous and everyone is after it. It can give random superpowers, or make people sick. It's one of the awful things Banner has to deal with.
This might look like a spoiler, but I promise it's not. It's something comic book readers know that the movie makers keep in mind even if they have not yet directly used this in any of the movies. In the comic books, it was revealed by a psychiatrist named Samson that Banner has dissociative identify disorder. Hulk is a personality he created to deal with abuse as a child. When that accident happened, Hulk got superpowers and the Banner personality didn't. So far, this detail has not been officially revealed in the movies, but several things have hinted at this part of his story.
Anyway, it is not actually anger or danger that causes the transformation. Anger or danger triggers the manifestation of a different personality, and THAT causes the transformation.
In the comic books, Hulk and Banner hate each other and fight over who gets to manifest when. Sometimes they come to an agreement. The one rule between them that always holds is that they never hurt someone the other loves. No matter how much or how little they hate each other, that rule always applies.
It's a detail that the film markers know will be in the minds of comic book fans, so they hint at it from time to time. I have no idea if they ever plan to deal with that side is his story in the movies.
Abomination is weaker than Hulk, but he has combat training.
Hulk gets stronger the angrier he gets, but that's the rub: angry people don't think as clearly. Someone who is sufficiently strong, but has advanced combat training can exploit that.
They absolutely explore Bruce's trauma and abuse from childhood in 2003 movie tho.
Great movie. Norton was a great bruce banner. Fun watching your reaction. Especially how your eyes lit up when you realized it was Tony stark in the credits scene lol. Side note, green looks great on you 😁👍
"HULK SMASH!" is sorta The Hulks signature line from the comics. I don't think it is much of a spoiler to say it comes up routinely around him. And the recap thing at the beginning I think was more of a nod to the fact that this story has been told several times in several movies and TV series, so, they didn't have to go too in depth about it, and are telling a different story.
As well his "Thunderclap" he used to put out the fire.
Good news, the dog was only tranquilized. They wanted to capture Banner, not kill him.
Of course, the dog might not survive a tranq dose meant for a human, but likely the dog just slept it off.
Hulk from 2003 gets a lot of crap from a ton of people but I do personally think that it's far better than people give it credit as it tackles issues that never really gets talked about in most superhero films. While it's not directly tied to the MCU, it does share some of the same canon as the comics, which obviously is where much of the MCU takes its story ques from. I do think it's still worth a watch.
Plus, the director Ang Lee has made some of my favorite films over the years. "Brokeback Mountain" "Life of Pi" and "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" All commentaries on human emotions and the lived experiences that makes us who we are.
Indeed.
The opening credits of this movie are a homage to the opening of the 70's Hulk TV show and as other commenters have mentioned that shows Hulk shows up in this movie as a security guard.
40:00 It does not recap any prior movie/video game/cartoon, but it has the homage to the Bixby/Ferigno television origin and details connecting to the MCU. Stark tech, SHIELD, Nick Fury, and mentions characters from the comics under surveillance.
During the battle on the campus, the two students watching from the tree are Jim Wilson and Jack McPhee, characters from the comics and the television show. The former was a sidekick of the Hulk for a time in Las Vegas. The latter was a reporter who worked for a newspaper who chased stories about the Hulk, believing he had killed people in his first appearance. [In the 70's, they were not going to have the army chase Hulk across the US. They saved that for the 80's when chasing the A-Team.]
the dog is OKAY! it was a tranquilizer gun!
I just don't like when dogs are shot with ANYTHING. 😭
I love how you wonder about characters and what will happen with them in future movies. Marvel always has a long term plan and many questions you ask along the way may eventually lead to answers. I'm still waiting for some of mine.
20:50..."It seems like being in Hulk form...really exhausts him."
Totally.
Hi, great reaction, thanks.
You asked about what triggers the Hulk's transformation into Bruce, so here goes what I know. These are not spoilers, this is just what comic book fans know about the character. The Hulk is a separate personality from Bruce, (Stan Lee had Stated that his inspirations for the Incredible Hulk were a combination of Dr Jeckyl & Hyde and Frankenstein, so it's safe to say that there are multiple personalities at play here) so techically Bruce "comes out" when Hulk let's him back out. Usually it's when the Hulk calms down, or goes to sleep, but in the comics (Not the MCU) Bruce has escaped when the Hulk has been distracted. And that's as far as I can go on the subject without giving up any spoilers.
Ironically, Blonski is actually stronger than Hulk. This is due to Hulk's natural ability, which is not transferred to Blonski. In any "do or die" situation that the Hulk is in, his strength will increase. So while Blonski started the fight out stronger than Hulk, by the end of the fight Hulk was actually the stronger one. Blonski came out at full maximum power, while Hulk started out at like 10% power and was probably about 60% of his max potential by the end of the fight.
Fun Fact: The Security Guard he gave the free pizza to was Lou Ferrigno, the man who played the Hulk on the old-school TV show.
Elizabeth Ross was dating another guy on the side. Never trust an elf. :)
LOVE your reactions & reviews, Kaiielle :) Best reaction channel on youtube hands down in my opinion. Hope you're enjoying your Marvel journey so far and can't wait to see more from you!
as someone new to the channel and who needs closed captions to understand people 90% of the time (yay SPD), I see your captions and I appreciate them wholeheartedly. Auto-generated ones always suck so the extra effort is very noticeable and appreciated by a great many
I use the auto-generated ones! I unfortunately do not have the time to do it myself or pay someone to do it for me, but it's a goal one day!
@@kaiielle then somehow this video won the lottery with their accuracy! Either way I’m loving watching the mcu for the first time with you :D
So, as far as the 2003 hulk movie goes I’d say it’s not necessary unless you want to see ONE OF the origin stories of the hulk (by no means is it the original origin story) but it’s in no way connected with the marvel cinematic universe (mcu) whatsoever.
THIS movie however was a real treat to see in theaters. Most people didn’t know about the end credit scenes yet so if you saw tony stark in a hulk movie it was definitely worth talking about (& going to the theaters again just to see it in case you missed it). It’s probably one of the most hated mcu films (mostly from the toxic fandom imo) but I like it because it’s what really made the mcu into the mcU.
[I sincerely can’t wait for you to continue with this project and I hope you enjoy the films that gave us so much joy for the past 14-15 years 🫶]
In Hulk's words "The madder Hulk gets, the stronger Hulk gets." Hulk's strength increases as he is tested and he has no upper limit. The only way to physically beat Hulk is to knock him out before his strength increases. Either that or calm him down to weaken him.
It's not really addressed much in the MCU, but Banner's Hulk states are physical manifestations tied to his DID. The one typically just called "Hulk" by other people is referred to by his system as Big Guy, since almost all of the identities manifest as Hulks. In fact, Dr. Leonard Samson (Ty Burrell's character who was dating Betty) is their therapist in the comics and discusses the system at length.
Also, in the comics Betty IS the original Mr. Blue. They changed it for the movie, but left a bunch of hints about her being Mr. Blue only to have it be Sterns instead.
That means Dr. Leonard Samson is the Son of Sam.
the number one rule of Hulk is "the madder the Hulk gets, the STRONGER the Hulk gets!"
The reason for the rushed intro is that there had been the pre-MCU film, "Hulk" in 2003, directed by Ang Lee. So between the comics, the 1980s TV series and the film only five years earlier, it was thought that most of the audience had a general idea what the Hulk was and they only needed to sketch in the tweaks for the MCU story (military program rather than an accident) later on.
Not that they didn't know they'd get some new viewers. It's completely not a shock that Betty is General Ross's daughter to comic readers (while some films compress years of comic development [Happy and Pepper don't appear until the 7th Iron Man story; Jim Rhodes didn't come along until the 1980s], Ross and Betty were in the Hulk story from day one), but they do a good job of hiding that reveal from movie audiences.
Ignore the Ang Lee rubbish. The opening credits gave all the origin details.
The guns they were using at the first of the movie was tranquilizer guns so the dog survived
Oh I know, I just really dislike when animals are treated this way period. 😭 They don't understand what's going on!
This may not be relevant anymore, and I’m sure someone already pointed it out. Around the 6:55 mark, when they infiltrate Banner’s place in Brazil, they have tranq rounds in their weapons. So when they shoot the dogs, they’re tranq-ing them, not killing them. Still not fun to watch, but I hope that brings you some comfort.
The opening credits reflected some of the 1978 television show. ✌️❤️🌹
The beginning of the movie reminds me so much of Jason Bourne. Norton and his hulk is my favorite portrayal of the characters:)
You can thank Louis Leterrier.
Hey there Kaiielle ;-) Subscribed after watching your Iron Man reaction and been dipping into your catalog of reactions. Great reaction on this one. Little back story for ya, no there won't be spoilers. Marvel Comics almost went bankrupt back in the 90's. They sold the movie rights to a lot of their popular characters to stay afloat. Which is why you see different movie companies putting out Marvel characters in the early 2000's. The Hulk rights were bought by Universal, which is why it's so different from Iron Man. It was made in Association with Marvel. But not solely by Marvel. It's considered Canon for the MCU, but also some fans consider it it's own individual thing. This is only the 2nd movie in the MCU and as you can see the story telling isn't bad. Characters have heart. And as the movies go on, world building and character layering gets better and better. You've opened yourself up to a big universe that will have lots of OMG's, laughs, tears and sheer wonder to it. Can't wait to see and hear your thoughts and opinions as time goes by. I just hope you have fun and enjoy yourself along the way. See ya in the next reaction. Cheers ;-)
2:19 ......Those type of neighborhoods are called "favelas" (I guess the closest translation would be "slumbs")....
The HULK'S X Factor is that " The ANGRIER He Gets. The STRONGER He Gets "! He Returns to Banner only when he Calms Down! FYI. When the HULK was Created back in 1963, The HULK Was Supposed to be GREY! But There was a Problem of some kind with the Printing Process and he Kept Coming out Green! So they Ran with that! And also. When he First came out , he only Changed into The HULK at Night! Like some Big Green Warewolf or Something! 😏
When Bruce says "don't make hungry you won't like me when I'm hungry" is a homage to the 1970s-80s TV show just replace hungry with angry
Ooooh this Lady Malfoy look is really working for you! The blonde with the Slytherin green top 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
LOL, thank you Santy!
I really prefer Norton over Ruffalo as Banner for some reason.
I absolutely hate needles and getting shots or blood drawn, but I HAVE to look lol, I don't like the idea of a sharp objects going into my arm with seeing it
So happy I can follow your MCU journey. If you would like to see Edward Norton in a much different roll watch American History X. His acting is Oscar worthy.
There is also a good heist movie with Norton and Robert De Niro called the score
2:05 The Incredible Hulk is the only MCU Phase One movie without Nick Fury, however his name is mentioned.
This film is quite often regarded as the only hard pass in the mcu universe. It's not generally well recieved and indeed many reactors (often at the behest of their audience) skip it altogether . I'm glad though that you did do it purely for continuity. Moving on though , I'm buckled in popcorn at the ready for the next one.
That’s probably why she doesn’t like “expectation spoilers” like which movies to like and dislike.
ignore the 2003 Hulk completely. It was a terribly executed money grab. The director never even bothered to open a Hulk comic and instead turned it into a poor attempt at a daddy issue art piece. It's not related to the MCU in any way.
Yeah, but this CGI version is much more intimidating and imposing than the current iteration. Even Shrek looks better than Ruffalo.
Ross wasn't trying to turn Blonsky into another Hulk, he was trying to turn him into a super soldier. Something that has worked in the past with a certain hero. So, it was not technically his fault at all for Blonsky becoming the Abomination and recking havoc in Harlem.
Also, most reactor don't realize this, but Tony wasn't showing up to recruit Bruce but actually Blonsky. He pissed off Ross and the man told him no and tried to kick him out the bar, but Tony flexed his money and bought it.
Idk if anyone has said this or not, but it was just a sleep dart shot at the dog. The dog should still be alive!
Thanks for your reply so much and the mask will definitely look very nice
Love your reactions.
Don't feel bad, you aren't the only one to not realize they used a tranquilizer dart on the dog.
The Hulk is a result of Bruce Banner's experiments with recreating the Super Soldier serum from the 1940's that was lost, and using gamma radiation to trigger the effects. This resulted in unleashing Bruce's repressed childhood anger over his father beating his mother (eventually, to death) in a physical form: the Hulk. That's why when he gets angry, he loses control and this alternate personality that was formed from childhood rage takes over and transforms his body. Stan Lee meant it to be a sort of Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde type story.
And I gotta tell you, there's something appealing about just letting go of all your worries and anxieties and becoming a giant green rage-monster :P
The line "Don't make me angry; you wouldn't like me when I'm angry" was a callback to the original TV show from the '70's which was it's tagline. Lou Ferrigno, the bodybuilder that portrayed the Hulk in that show, is the security guard in this :)
In the comics, Emil Blonsky is known officially as the Abomination, and Sam Stearns (Mr. Blue) becomes Hulk's greatest nemesis, The Leader, whose exposure to gamma made him hyperintelligent and able to shoot gamma blasts from his hands.
The thing about Abomination too, is that he's about twice as strong as baseline Hulk. That's why he's mopping the floor with him at first in their fight, but as Hulk gets angrier, the stronger he becomes (it's theorized that there is no upper limit to his strength depending on just how enraged he can become), so as the fight goes on longer, the odds shift in Hulk's favor
That's the CRAP reconned story. ORIGINALLY, Dr. Banner was exposed to a Gamma Bomb explosion while saving a young man (Rick) who had strayed onto the test site. It was the radiation from that bomb that causes him to transform into THE HULK.
Another fun reaction. Looking forward to seeing more of this. You've just earned me as a sub
Bruce Banner/ Hulk is a turbulent INTP. One of the 16 MBTI personalities.
The actor who plays General Ross, WIlliam Hurt, sadly passed away this year
Lol u wouldn’t like me when I’m hangry
They recast because of Norton's behaviour during the making of this film
Fun Fact: Mark Ruffalo was originally the director Louis Leterrier’s first choice for the role of Bruce Banner in The Incredible Hulk.
I wish Edward Norton could have stayed on, I liked his version of Hulk more than the next guy. I also think Edward Norton is a fantastic actor so I may have a bit of a bias.
2:52 Does Martina have a thing for Bruce now? 😂😂
6:39 I read somewhere that Emil didn’t kill the dog, he just tranquilized it, so you’re all good 😊
Hello again Kaiielle, just finished your video. Great reaction. I've been a Hulk fan since I was a little kid and watched the 70s TV show with Bill Bixby and Lou Ferigno. And with that this movie was my favorite of all the different versions of Hulk.
After watching your review, and hearing you say you didn't really know anything about the Hulk, it made me realize that this movie doesn't have a very good intro for who the characters are, and how they got to be in their current situations. Hopefully that didn't make it a bad movie for you.
With all the different versions of Hulk's origin story, it kinda seems like they just wanted to skip it and move on with their story.
Still, like you said middle of the road, but more on the good side. I'm glad you enjoyed it, and am looking forward to more. Have a great day.
If there was more backstory, this movie would have definitely been liked a lot more. That is one of my criticisms, but I've realized I didn't really dive into that much. Probably subconsciously avoided it due to nasty comments of my Man of Steel reaction, because I said I wanted more backstory and people got mad at me for it. 😅 Thank you for the nice comment!
@@kaiielle Ohh, sorry about the mean comments, sometimes comic book fans are over zealous. 🙄
Well, I enjoy hearing your comments on the movies. I always enjoy hearing people's POV's, even if they are different than mine, and yours are very interesting and thought provoking. Hopefully most commentators will agree. 😅
Thanks for the fun conversation.
@@tjkhanks Most do agree, yes!
@@kaiielle There is a previous Hulk movie made in 2003 by Ang Lee, which is not an MCU movie (since it predates the whole thing by five years), but this movie have a couple of references which can be interpreted that it was a predecessor for this film - like that Bruce is a fugitive for 5 years, the deaths the Hulk has caused when he was appearing for the first time... They didn't show how Bruce became Hulk, because it was done in the Ang Lee film.
08:15 You've got.. Bill Bixby eyes.
Regarding your critique of the love story, there are over 30 mins of deleted scenes. Most of which deal with the boyfriend, One of the issues with Norton and Marvel is that Norton re-wrote the entire film and much of his character-building work was cut out and Norton wasn't given any credit for his writing work. Mainly as a response to the backlash of the 2003 film.
he only tranquilizes the dog. they were not authorized to use live ammo.
Yep, I know. It just breaks my heart to see a dog have to deal with that kind of situation, period.
@@kaiielle Me too . . . . bystander victims . . . .
Not connected to the previous Hulk film at all. I think the beginning of the film was more of a recap for the audiences that may have seen that Hulk movie only a few years prior. They are two very different movies. Great reaction! I really enjoy this film but agreed it is high mid for me too.
24:10 Red She-Hulk teaser
If you have access to Disney+, there is a short that applies to the post-credit scene called the Consultant
I'm glad you enjoyed this movie,it's super underated. It's also the best on screen Hulk till date(in my opinion).
So many of the smallest details connect the movies and shows and every time I watch I see more. The bar in the final bar seen I have seen repeatedly and even several times in other shows like NCISLA.
great reaction
I always kinda felt bad for Blonsky (no She-Hulk spoilers included). He wasn’t the nicest guy, but he wasn’t evil, just a good soldier who just wanted a good fight. We know from Captain America & Red Skull super-soldier serums amplifies your base personality, so the untested super-serum warped Blonsky’s mind into NEEDING to fight bigger and badder opponents, until as the Abomination he just attacks everything
The 2003 movie isn't related to the MCU, other than it was a first attempt at a Hulk movie outside of the TV series from the 70's and the few TV movies that it spawned in the 80's.
..or the various animated series,
no spoilers, but its really cool how things are now in the mcu in regards to these characters. UGH, LOVE THE MCU.
Hulk's strength is fuelled by rage and anger, the angrier he gets the stronger he becomes. There is no limit to his strength, the Abomination is stronger than the Hulk in base form but as the battle progresses the Hulk will get angrier and stronger and the Abomination won't be a match for him.
So, for this movie feeling like it is from a much earlier time than Iron Man, I think that has to do with the fact that this one wasn't made by Disney. Heck, for a long time, this movie wasn't even on Disney+, because they didn't have the streaming rights for it. The whole IP rights with these Marvel characters is messy. Fox was _super_ stubborn for a long time, not letting any of their stuff even be mentioned by name in the MCU. However... Disney now _owns_ Fox, so that simplified a lot, and means that a movie coming out (hopefully) in the near future, which was a fully Fox-owned property will now be part of the MCU. Not saying which one, just that I'm very excited for it.
2008's Incredible Hulk movie isn't made by Fox by Universal.
This is not a spoiler (I think): Samuel Sterns, in the comics, becomes The Hulk's greatest foe, The Leader. You commented that Blonsky(The Abomination) is stronger than Hulk. The only difference is that Blonsky stays at the same strength level while Hulk gets stronger the angrier he gets.
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There were to hulks released about the same time. The other one has Australian Eric banner as hulk with criss crostophson as his father.
Bana was in Ang Lee's movie. Kris Kristofferson was in the Blade movie.
You spelled 2 as to.
lol
I would skip the 2003 movie, unless you are a big Hulk fan, but it's way different direction. If anything in this one they wanted to loosely link it to the late 70s early 80s TV series. The actor that portrayed the Hulk in the TV series did a cameo as a security guard in this movie, as well as using his face as the Hulk and him doing the Hulk grunts, etc.
Hulk's strength increases with "anger" 😉
Can’t fight the lightning, but what about the Thunder…
great reaction and seeing you travel down the marvel series. YOU make it extremely hard to pay attention to the movie though lol
Well, good thing you're not watching these to watch the movie, you're watching them for my reaction to it. 😊
i like your vids
In the comics Mr. Blue's hair turns green and he becomes known as Doc Sampson. He has like 1/3 Hulk strength, major indestructability and although he is very buff he dose not change form at all. Also was there a previous mention of your dog's name?
Imagine if Thor met Doc Samson and say: “Know this, Son of Sam.”
I haven't seen this one in a while!.. Great! ✌️❤️❤️🥵🤢
17:31 ....This is what happens to me anytime I hear Bad Bunny on the streets..... Seizure and spasms....
I grew up reading The Hulk :) THIS is the Hulk we deserve!! :) 💪😎💪
Bruce has a pretty tragic early life, and the trauma of that is how The Hulk actually got created. The gamma radiation just gave it a physical form :/
The guy teaching Bruce Brazillian jujitsu is Rickson Gracie, of the Gracie Brazilian JuJitsu family :)
I'm sure someone has already mentioned it but when he says "You wouldn't like me when I'm hungry." is a homage to the Incredible H7lk TV show with Bill Bixby as Bruce and Lou Ferrigno as The Hulk. (I see others already pointing out he cameos as the massive security guard he gifts a pizza too) 🍕 😂🤣💪😎💪
One of Bruce's trademark lines, said in every episode, was "Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry." 😁
I've had a thing for Liv Tyler since "Empire Records" 💘🥰🥰🤣😂 So her as Arwen in LotR AND Betty Banner? Omg 💘💘💘🥰💘🥰💘
I loved seeing this in the theatre :) The college confrontation was AWESOME on the big screen ❤️👊👊😁
The key thing with Hulk is that he doesn't start out as the strongest character: Blonsky (the Abomination) and even She-Hulk are stronger than Hulk ... at first. But the angrier the Hulk gets, the stronger the Hulk gets. The rule in the comic book is put him down IMMEDIATELY, or don't try to fight him at all, because once a fight gets going, Hulk's strength climbs beyond everybody else (stronger than Thor, etc_).
Sadly, they wasted the whole setup turning Mr. Blue turn into The Leader. He's never seen again.
Until……
Something to know about hulk if ur just starting your MCU journey, which is awesome and I can't wait to follow along 😁, but the more angry hulk gets, the stronger he gets, and his strength really has no limits. It's kind of a shame a little bit the way they've kinda mellowed him out for the MCU but he's still a powerhouse.
Banner turns into Hulk when he gets too angry or overexcited, and Hulk turns back to Banner once he calms down, but this rule changes from movie to movie, so don't pay too much attention...... (It called inconsistency, or simply bad writing)
So unlike Iron Man who is more inspired by his main Earth-616 version the origin story of the Hulk featured in this film pulls heavily from Earth-1610 also known as the Ultimate Universe but puts a spin on it that connects it to Earth-616 as well. The Ultimate Universe origin has Bruce Banner being commissioned by Nick Fury to recreate the Super Solider Serum which didn't work as planned and instead turned Banner into the Hulk. Visually the MCU Hulk looks like his Earth-616 counterpart as the Ultimate Hulk was very different having Gray skin instead of Green with a few other changes as well to his character.
For the MCU Banner Is also trying to recreate the Super Solider serum but instead of Nick Fury it's Ross hoping to recreate it. This fails, and the exposure to the gamma radiation causes Banner to transform into the Hulk. They pretty much pulled the Super Solider aspect from Ultimate Universe and then exposure to Gamma radiation from Earth-616. We don't really see his origin in this film but that's the general backstory we're given in this film.
Earth-616 Bruce was bombarded with a massive dose of gamma rays while saving Rick Jones, a kid who was out on the test site. This was cased by a Gamma bomb which is pretty much a nuke with extreme amounts of Gamma radiation fitting the whole 1960s Cold War setting.
Overall fun film that is greatly overshadowed for a range of reasons. I'd say a good 50% of the MCU fandom forget that this film even takes place in the MCU even though Tony Stark shows up at the end.
Yeah, at the time it wasn't considered a part of the MCU because Universal still held the film rights to Hulk.
Now, you need to pretend that Ed Norton was not Bruce Banner in this film and it was Mark Ruffalo the whole time. LOL!
When I first saw the film, I assumed "Mr. Blue" was transforming into a Hulk comic character 'the Leader'. Not being very familiar with Hulk characters I had to look it up, and sure enough the Leader's name in the comics is Samuel Sterns, as is Mr. Blue's in this film.
He’s coming back in Captain America 4.
People often forget that this is an MCU film, which is a shame (though I think that’s mainly a combo of the plot rarely getting brought up and Bruce getting recast in a later entry). It’s not the best, but it’s certainly not a bad movie.
I watched this for the first time on HBO Max and I noticed a few things:
Stark Industries
SHIELD
Tony Stark
Nick Fury (mentioned in the opening credits)
Great reaction!
I am a big fan of Tim Roth & Edward Norton, plus William Hurt and Liv Tyler are always good to watch, so the cast alone was enough to get me excited for this one.
I have never been into the Hulk/Banner character. I don’t mind him being there for those that do find the character engaging, he is just not the kind of character I gravitate towards.
You still haven’t meet my favorite character 🤐
All that being said, I enjoy this movie and do enjoy a rewatch of it now and again. This movie has some weak parts, like 98.5% of movies do, but I always found it fun and endearing, especially for a movie centered around a character I have never gravitated towards in my life of enjoying Caped Crusaders, OP Mutants, Men of Steel, several bug themed crime fighters, cats from Thundera, alien robot cars, He-Man & all the masters of the universe …..You get the idea 😜
Have a good week!
12:19 Head Shrink is slang for a psychiatrist.
With what you said in your iron man video the newer TV shows and specials shold be watched in releace order as they do tie in with the movies, unlike the shorts or the nexflix shows. Don't want you to be lost with polt points. 👍 Also the nexflix shows, may not even been cannon but we have yet to be told either way yet.
Puppies OK! It's a tranquilizer Dart 👍🐕
Still. 😭 I don't like seeing animals go through things like that.
@@kaiielle yes me too. Bunch of movies I won't see because of this. I usually have to check the website "does the dog die" to be sure I can watch it. There are some other fun Easter eggs in this movie,one that comes to mind that doesn't tie into anything else is the security guard who was bribed with pizza was the first Hulk in the TV show. Lou Ferrigno. Have fun with the Marvel movies, there's a ton.
@@kaiielle With that said, avoid the Ang Lee flick.
definitely don't need to watch the 2003 Hulk although a lot will probably watch (I would). It is not directly linked to the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Previously there had been a fair bit of Hulk content, the series, the 2003 movie, the comics etc... the intro gave everyone a decent intro, so they could get started into the actual movie, rather than another origin movie. Was the second half weaker because of the action, whilst the action was decent it's where the story telling pretty much ends. Great reaction, thank you
The 2003 Hulk was a glorious trainwreck. Once you've seen more of Hulk in the MCU, it might be worth watching, because your reaction would be fun to see...
A sadly underrated movie. Marred by poor editing decisions and script shenanigans, but, this is the closest we get to seeing an accurate banner and, more importantly, Hulk. Everything afterward is a very watered down caricature of the Hulk. I love the last scene with Banner in the cabin. I swear it's the same one we see being used by another MCU character at the end of a 2021 TV show... I was on a set a few times for this as it was shot in Hamilton and Toronto. yay
One thing to note (if you didn't already know), Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk were done in different studios: Iron Man - Paramount and Hulk - Fox Studios. So, aids in why one of them was done better than the other. Luckily, Fox studios isn't really part of the equation moving forward in the MCU. Nobody comment to this about the other s**t show of a studio that produces a movie every couple of years for the MCU, because that could potentially give away some characters to her.
This Hulk movie was released by Universal not Fox.
There are short Marvel One-Shots that fit between some movies. "The Consultant" happens between the main body of this movie and the end-credit scene. It's more funny than something you have to watch. It's also really too short for a reaction.
Yeah, I have been told about the one-shots which I will probably watch when I've gotten through all the films and necessary TV shows.
@@kaiielle Yeah, the One Shots aren't needed, but really fun and fill in a few gaps.
I think the 2003(?) Hulk movie (dir Ang Lee) is much better. I'd like to see your reaction to that.
I might put that up once I'm caught up on MCU!
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