History Primer 157: Swiss Revolver of 1882 Documentary
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Othais and Mae delve into the story of this classic. Complete with history, function, and live fire demonstration.
C&Rsenal presents its Primer series; covering the firearms of this historic conflict one at a time in honor of the centennial anniversary. Join us every other Tuesday!
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Liege Gunmakers through their Work 1800 - 1950
Alain Daubresse
Geschichte und Technik der Europaischen Militärrevolver
Rolf H. Muller
The Warnant Revolver
Daniel Casanova
Pistolen und Revolver de Schweiz
Christian Reinhart
The Borchardt & Luger Automatic Pistols
Joachim Gortz & Dr. Geoffrey Sturgess
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I used to be bored to tears by revolvers. Your breakdowns of the history and mechanics of revolvers are very interesting. I appreciate revolvers more because of your work.
Come, join the dark side. We can rule the galaxy together! 🤣
It’s all about the ASMR and mechanical clickity clacks. Also they shoot pretty cool and if you hunt they can be loaded with near rifle powered cartridges, (or genuine rifle cartridges if you want to go that way, BFR).
And, there is another unsung benefit for the revolver user: Your brass can be right there, in your hand or on the table in front of you. The cases need not be lost; they’re easily retrieved and available for another reload and another swipe at glory.
I'm also an auto guy, and believe that, net, autos are the superior weapon. However, there are a number extremely valid, useful advantages inherent to revolvers that one dismisses at their own peril. It's for this reason I own a couple revolvers and intend on getting at least a few more.
The handgun I keep ready at all times is a revolver.
@@ItsMrAssholeToYou absolutely Auto loaders are better. But a Dodge Hemi is awesome to drive even though a new Honda Accord is probably fast, handles better, has air conditioning, auto locks/windows and cruise control and uses 1/4 as much gas and only need service once a year and that’s just for oil changes. Still want that Hemi though. 😳
I used revolvers as tools, but like you, they never excited me. What changed it for me was buying an $80 nagant to practice tuning and polishing a revolver action (no loss if I wrecked it)
That revolver is like a supermodel. Nice to look at but difficult to manage.
I thought it was the opposite? Revolvers are robust and require far less maintenance over fancy automatics.
The correct answer to the revolver question is clearly the OG Reichsrevolver. While your opponent mucks about attempting to reload, you just club them to death. Their fancy gate & ejector technology can fail them, but your trusty stick is easily maintainable or replaceable in the field.
BIG STICK GOOD!
Tie a chunk of wire between two and you have nunchucks. 😳
@@john-paulsilke893 Better yet, tie two Reichsrevolvers together by the lanyard loops.
I'm just trying to imagine telling a Swiss to club their enemies with their precision weapons.
@@john-paulsilke893 no no, that a stick with problems. Why make nunchuk when stick is good?
After leaving military service in the 40s, my grandpa opted to keep this revolver (1929) for protection and still has it to this day. His is a nice piece.
Heyy I enjoy your videos!
So much meme potential in this episode. I counted no less than three instances of Othias doing crazy eyes and yelling "arrgh!"
Othias going full-on 19th century fudd had me in tears from laughing.
Hard to believe an iteration of this, was still used in Black Powder, until 1977.
Only kinda. The Swiss method of arms issuance means that as long as someone who got issued the weapon is still in service as long as the soldier doesn't upgrade it, and they're in the reserves for until old age.
The banter was on point on this one.
I love how relaxed you two have gotten during the Maeversations. I'm sure it's sometimes the middle of the night when you're recording it, but the fun you have is contagious.
I have one, and I’m surprised how different it is to this review. The double-action isn’t that bad, and it hits a very definite cliff before the hammer falls. The trigger isn’t nearly as heavy as a nagant. Much lighter than my chamelot delvigne but heavier than my webley. However the cylinder on mine occasionally slips backwards while operating the abadie if I don’t release the trigger quickly enough. Not sure if that’s normal. I guess every specimen has different quirks and manufacturing wasn’t 100% uniform. Mine is in the pre-5000 serial number range, if that makes any difference.
I'd be interested to hear about your Webley. I'm quite a fan of Webley revolvers, so any additional information and first-hand experience is always good.
Obviously hopefully, I've owned and shot a few models.
@@brianknezevich9894 Mine’s a Mark I. Very compact for a big-bore military revolver, and very smooth action. My only complaint would be the odd grip angle. The later webleys solved this problem, but they were also much uglier in my opinion.
My 1882 has a great double action, a little heavy by modern standards but smooth and easy to shoot. Its also one of my most accurate handguns. I have to say my shooting experience with my particular example is vastly different then Othias and Mays.
@@JChan880 I also prefer the asthetic of the earlier grips, while I'm much more comfortable with more modern ones to shoot... And that might just be experience - it's always easier and usually cheaper to spend trigger time on a modern gun.
It's unusual to see Mae NOT smile at the end of the shooting sequence. I always look forward to seeing that, and the lack of her smile tells me all I need to know!
I love the color scheme of it; clean and elegant
I love these Maeversaions that are recorded early in the early ours morning. They so deranged and wonderful.
Glad to have my buck a month contribute towards keeping the magic smoke within the sacred transistors to facilitate the making of this show!
Thanks for contributing!
The commentary at the end of this video where Mae and Othias are talking about whether or not they like The Gun is the best part of the entire video. And that’s saying a lot, because the entire video is good!
Twice the entertainment in one package!
You can definitely see they are both completely sleep deprived... I bet they crashed hard afterwards.
I'm just thrilled the sights seem not a complete afterthought on this revolver, nice and tall
Favorite part of the channel, the effort of music selection to pair with the shooting footage.
I am so glad to have my patreon finally done and help put some doritos through the "loading gate".
I have a pair of these, one is an 1890s made one with the black hard rubber grips and the second is closer to the one on the presentation made in the 20s with the wood grips. The older one is much smoother and lighter in double action than the newer one which is stiffer like yours. Maybe the springs got stiffer 20-30 years down the production line.
Perhaps the most beautiful revolver of its era, and maybe ever.
I love the analysis and the deep dive into the works. One of the advantages of a smaller caliber handgun is the ability to deliver multiple rounds on target rapidly. The 1882 fails on that. If I was forced to choose I'd go with the 1878. Not because of the size of the round, and I think it would be a complete nightmare to reload in combat, but the first six rounds on target under stress is vital. So I'm with Othais.
Really slick little pistol. Gorgeous.
I can't believe there's 500 people up at midnight EST blowing this video up. I love this community and I'm so glad that The C&Rsenal Team makes such great content. Thank you everyone for giving this nerd a place that feels like home
Not all of us are in the USA…
@@poppasquat8483 I figure as much, but it's between 0500 and 0700 in most of Europe? That's still pretty early, at least for me
@@alexknouse9133 Some of us are a little more East than that
@@poppasquat8483 oh dang, a real worldwide audience. That's sweet
Loved the banter at the end.......
These always make my day, well done guys😊
always excited when a new episode drops
I think Othais expressing Maes shooting deserves separate video...
I'm happy I interrupted the q&a to watch this episode after it was mentioned, great video!
Very underrated revolver! I've heard that it is a great revolver to have!
The 82 is you, the 78 is the guy she told you not to worry about.
So beautiful, definitely on my list
engaging with this content so much right now
I do own a 1878,1882 and 1929. The 1882 has a horrendous heavy grindy double action. It is surprising Mae had them on target even at that distance. The 1882 is worse than the 1929. My 1878 has a quite pleasant double action.
I have one, and the trigger is SUUUUUPER heavy. Super super heavy.
Nowhere else on the web do i find a wealth of historical data.. and come away crying with laughter!
Excellent. 😂
Thanks guys
Still my favorite channel! Great research and delivery as always.
I agree with Othias, I would want the bigger round. I work as armed security in Houston, TX and on those posts that require revolvers, the company wants me to carry a .38 and I refuse and carry instead my 45 acp 325pd. If all I get is six, then I want 6 BIG rounds. Kudos to Mae for being able to hit at all with that nasty double action pull.
I hear Othais’ argument somewhat differently. I don’t think it’s about the big(ger) round per se, but about the terrible trigger/action on the smaller calibre gun, which caused the far worse grouping for Mae.
He specifically said that his concern would be to get the first couple of shots well placed on-target, which was difficult in a stressed situation with the later gun, because you’ll likely use the horrible double action.
Whoa...I'm literally going to go look at one of these tomorrow!
I did indeed go look at it but I should mention that it is actually a Husqvarna made one.
It's now on Layaway.
Today I picked up a Brazilian contract S&W 1917, no small thanks to you guys and your amazing knowledge on these.
Dating advice from Othias!!!!!!! I'm dying!!
32:05 - "The bigger the better, that's how it works." - Mae
I beg you to only film these segments at 3 am.
great video as usual. needed a good laugh and your conclusion had me chuckling out loud, well done all ;)
Thank you for a great video!
First time I think I have seen May so disillusioned with a firearm... "I'll take my shitty 6 hits." T-shirt material, I wonder? (Okay, you might have to bleep it out.) I've only ever gotten to shoot one once, and I have to agree. Everything that it looks like it ought to be, turns out just... Meh.
Ooh, PS - for a revisit on your argument, try the Paul Harrell patented meat target every once in a while. It's all well and good to see how it prints a group, but what would the damage look like on the receiving end?
Paul has gone over how much time it takes him to do the meat targets and it's pretty significant. Mae and othais work something like 60 hours a week I don't think they can squeeze in another several hours. Now is the part where I tell you if you aren't already a patron, go do that. If you want them to do more things that cost money and time, that's the best way to make it happen.
Another amazing episode! Greeting from Poland!
Thank you fir these wonderful Swiss guns
Swiss Revolvers #2
Neutral with a Vengence
Muy bueno tu vídeo saludos desde Argentina
Aqui en Argentina fueron muy popular,conservo una que pertenecio a mi bisabielo
“It’s called a ped egg.” - Othais, 2022 (colorized)
Great work, keep it up
Glad to see papa Othais is back to mount 😏 up on another revolver. I remember using one of these to fight the Zulus while I was stationed in Cairo. It had a tendency to slam fire all six rounds at once, which would frighten both the shooter and the Zulu he was aiming at. Good work!
I remember serving with you! You were the lad who put a saddle on a dolphin and fought off the whole Zulu fleet! Bravo, good sir!
Bravo!
You deserve a VC! You’re a hero!
Doubtable
I have one of these with a serial of P2xxx and my double action is not as heavy as you guys described. Fantastic pistol but almost impossible to get proper ammo for it in canada though
Try .32 S&W Long. My buddy has one and I hit up the boys at Reliable Gun for ammo, and they always have it. (Don’t make me regret telling you by buying up all their stock 🤣).
@@john-paulsilke893 lol dont worry, i got around 300 rounds of 32 at a gun show a few weeks back. I seen that the shooting center has 7.5 reloads but they are 125$ for 50. ill stick to my 20$ 32 shorts lol
@@k54g it’s not a volume shooter anyways. 300rds should get you a few months maybe even a year or so if you have another pistol. Fun farm gun plus woodlands shooter, but may attract a Karen so I’d stay away from people when plinking.
A good gun that you can't reuse, or a terrible gun that you can use over and over again. Great choice.
There was such childlike joy in the debate between the 78 and 82.
Supporting comment.
For the algorithm.
I like Othias and Mae and guns are pretty cool too I guess
Beautiful wheel gun
Othias is right...the big iron is better
And he is also right about the way you described the 1882....you wouldn't date it.....
A very handsome and functional revolver.
Inspired by Brandon Herrera , pulling the trigger to load the gun and accidentally firing at the guy at your right , you just win a Baldwin awards.
How did it get even more attractive than the previous also attractive version
Forget Gold and Silver the real money is in Brass. Ammo is almost more expensive per weight than Gold!.
YAY MORE WHEELGUNS!
Ah, I just love your friendly bickering here! A wonderful video again and it should be. May is in it!
Excellent informative quality content as usual had a wee chuckle at the end too
Bestest from Scotland 🤣
I just wanted to tell you how much I appreciate your videos. I've been watching Ukraine videos at home and dealing with personnel problems at work, which have caused me quite a bit of stress. Your videos are like an oasis in the middle of all of that. They are so well done and just so damn relaxing. Thank you.
It´s Swiss, be happy it it only has one extra spring.
damn mae friendzoned a gun
lmao
This weapon lived way beyond its years…
15:11. Last little piece of sin. Two extra springs. I feel your pain. Questions on Swiss wheel guns.... Bloke...Chap...?
“Bigger is better”
I agree about the look of those grips. Something about the shape and the grooves makes me think "antler."
Recoil from this thing is just the Swiss technique to encourage cartridge conservation. 🙃
I'm swiss and my grandfather has one of these and an original Luger adopted by the swiss army. I hope I'll get these some day to keep tgem in the family...I'd never sell these since these are in the family since my great grandfather..
Bet those grips were designed with gloves in mind. Make sense for them to be so aggressive
I'm always excited to see pistols that look like Big O is handling a pocket pistol.... Means it would fit my baby hands perfectly 🤣
Oh, and Mae for the win, you don't tell the internet a lady needs a grinding tool for her calloused feet and expect to win a duel...
Your videos are fantastic 👍☕🍩
If one is Swiss, and one has been so unfortunate as to have been issued this particular Swiss Revolver model of 1882, does one, perhaps, consider the option of staying in an uphill position where there are plenty of rocks available? That is to say, might rolling rocks down on one’s adversaries be the better plan?
If you are a soldier and using a handgun in war, you are screwed even if it’s a 33 rd magazine G18.
Here's something for Mae. There have been numerous studies done on tank on tank battles and how they resolve (the biggest are the U.S. and Israeli studies) to which tank will be the winner. It turns out who shoots first normally wins the fight. (what's interesting is this applies to all facets of shell shooting, be that artillery or tanks or handguns) So Mathias is correct. Who gets off the first shots will win the fight. Even if that first shot doesn't hit anyone it still causes a panic where the shooter gets a better more accurate shot on target.
the thumbnail makes it look like it was customized with gold parts
I demand that my Patreon contribution goes directly and fully to the Doritos fund.
I am so validated seeing someone else have trouble with that DA. My brother has one, the DA is SO HEAVY. I am better with a Russian Nagant, and I never knew I would ever say that.
You can build a frame to run the rope and pullies or use like a bike chain to spin by hand or Motor to run target at you faster would be awesome to do
A kettle bell > reloading out of breath might be interesting, but that easy for me to say ;)
For some reason, I expected this gun to be better. Maybe I was enticed by the shiny Swiss-ness?
The humor in this episode is… i dunno how to say it in words 🙏🏽
Well I want one. This is the kind of revolver the reproduction companies should be making, it would make a great little plinker in a more accessible black powder caliber.
I liked the part where the gun spinned
Lovin the chatting
great
Excellent! With this variation from the standard infantry weapons makes me think of Forgotten Weapons on major steroids. Well done
@9:00 Is that a HaT Early French Infantry 1/72 scale figure facing off against an Emhar German WW1 1/72 Infantry figure? If so, the French figure may better be swapped for the period appropriate Airfix or Pegasus sets, as a Kepi wearing French soldier from 1914 would not be in combat with a MP18 carrying stahlhelm wearing German soldier from 1918... :p (p.s. your show is awesome)
After 162 episodes, I'm finally free. [Conquers Earth]
157 episodes in a row... now im caught up
While I do love the look of the wood grips. The 1882/29 with its bakelite grips look a bit more comfortable.
Now i really want sig to make a modern auto ejecting revolver
How big of a loop? Big enough to fit over the handle bar in a pinch??? If you needed to get out of dodge fast be a lot better than getting it tangled up on a lanyard in your spokes.
I'd bet you money it was for that
36:03 BEST.EPISODE.EVER. 🤣🤣
Under an hour? Big sad. Jokes aside, best day of the week is a episode drop day.