The Citizen Promaster Titanium BN0200-56E Wristwatch: The Full Nick Shabazz Review
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- čas přidán 29. 08. 2024
- Today, we'll take a look at a lightweight, practical, and reasonably priced watch from Citizen which could be a wonderful addition to your EDC, the Citizen Promaster Titanium BN0200-56E.
I have an Eco Drive on a watch my wife gave me in 1999, and it still works perfectly. I’ve had a new bracelet and crystal put in it, but the movement has been flawless.
Great to see your comment...I got mine around the same time. I put mine in a draw for about 20 years. I put it in direct sunlight for an afternoon recently but it didn’t work for very long. Sent it in for repair....waiting to hear...
by crystal do you mean the lens? How much did it cost and does it retain its water resistance.
@@viccao8431 the technical term is crystal, not lense.
@@richarddilorenzo8188 im sure u have it fixed by now. But yes if u let them die and and sit for too long its kills the capacitor and u have to replace it. But they are like 10 bucks. I love the eco drives.
A Citizen Pro-master is the best watch you can get for the money. Not just their dive watches either. The entire Pro-master line is a library of great watches. The dive watches are especially nice. Who else sells a dive watch with a depth gauge? And solar? AND ISO Certified? I love all my Pro-masters. They're great watches.
Agreed, really amazing value.
I bought my first Citizen a few months ago Citizen Promaster Diver love it $175 great deal 🎄
@@juniorjohnson5961 Congrats! Love mine too. Really great EDC watch.
Big promaster fan here, love the tough models as well as the divers.
Never thaught you would review my one and only watch😂👍🏻
This has been my one watch collection for some time now. I could not have been more happy with it. Its dead accurate, has a look that goes with almost every situation, and feels real nice in use. Coming from a backpacker background, I was pleasantly surprised that titanium commanded such little extra cost in the watch world, compared to steel. Thanks for the review Nick!
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Going to lay.down
A titanium watch that has a regular bracelet and isn't horribly ugly. Holy moly I'm picking this up with my Christmas money ASAP.
A pawn shop near me has a whole huge tray of 90s/early 2000s Seikos and Citizens. All solar, black dials, weird green lume, two-tone gold/titanium, bizarre case shapes, integrated bracelets... it's worth going in sometimes just to laugh (internally) at the tackiness.
Must have viewed this video a dozen times over the last few months among others as well. You sold me on this watch Nick.I bought one today from an A/D at a discount and couldn't be happier. Thank you !!!
How do you like the bracelet?
Do you like the Bracelet?
Great to see a review of a titanium watch and I agree we don't see enough of them. In addition to its other useful properties, Ti is hypoallergenic which is a necessity for some.
Inoffensive is my aesthetic, that's why I daily this watch on a black NATO.
I’m in the exact same boat LOL. I’m actually a little offended by the polished bits on this watch ... could be even more inoffensive. Could imagine it’s great on the NATO though.
I just got this watch. I'm so impressed by the looks and build quality of this watch. Citizen did a awesome job on this dive watch. Not to many watches for the price beats this watch
I have the non-titanium version of this watch. It stays well within 5 seconds a month. I moved away from Seiko mechanical movements because they can't hold 25-30 seconds within a day. The Eco-Drive is just excellent. I don't mind the bracelet, but may put a NATO strap on it. Highly recommended watch.
Yes but another strap on it you never get the right size with the bracelet
I only have a few watches but no Seikos. Do they really gain/lose 25-30 seconds per day? That sounds terrible.
@@Mr.M1STER i have this watch the braclet is a pain in the butt ... Never really fits
@@Mr.M1STER Do a search on 4R36 movement, which is the predominant Seiko movement that I've seen available (and the similar 4R35, with one less complication (day)). "Seiko claims that the accuracy of caliber 4R36 is between +45 / -35 seconds per day. " Yeah, not good enough for me.
So far, my Citizen Eco-Drive gained almost 5 seconds in just over 2 months - really.
@@Mr.M1STER Seiko are usually much better than this, under 10 seconds a day, the only Seiko that I had that wasn't accurate was my SKX007 that had the older movement, my Seiko Samurai loses ~6 seconds a day. My Swiss Rado Captain Cook (ETA movement), by comparison, gains about 6 seconds a day
This is on my wrist right now. Got it for an absolute bargain last year. Love how it gently hugs my wrist and stays put, totally unobtrusive yet reliable. My other diver turns heads, but is double the weight and price!
Which one is it the other diver?
Which is the other diver? Do you still have both?
I bought this same watch a couple of months ago. Swapped out the bracket with a silicon band which is my preference. Unlike my Seiko diver, I can leave this in drawer for a week or more and it still has the correct time when I take it out again. I can live with the mineral crystal, but yes wish it had a sapphire one and a bigger crown. Being titanium it's light and at 12mm it's thin for diver, so it pretty much checks all the boxes for me and "It might be my last watch".
I have a stainless version of this that my wife gave me as an anniversary gift. The watch hasn't skipped a beat in nearly 10 years though I beat it up. I love this watch and payed the high price to replace the band
What is your replacement band?
I had this one for 9 months or so and agree with Nick on everything. A couple more points perhaps: (+) The super titanium really is quite durable, (+) the inner portion of the clasp is nicely milled, (-) the date window is quite small and deep, perhaps due to the eco-drive panel, not the most legible thing, (-) the crown is weirdly small for a diver and feels loose whet setting the time. BTW there are no halflinks in the retail packaging.
I bought a tempered glass protector for the crystal for my promaster BN151. It fits perfectly. No bubbles. Apparently it fits this BN0200.
This watch should have a diver extension (although in the ocean single pass nylon straps are more secure) and sapphire crystal. But I found it barely used for $152.
I tried it on at Macy’s, initially it looked boring, but I liked it more when on my wrist.
I would not pay 300 or more for it, but under 200 I considered it.
I just ordered one on a silicone strap for $157!!! Thank you nick for the recommendation!!!
I will get a silicon strap to ...with the Titanium braclet i never get the right fit
I might make my new ringtone "Awk... Promaster Diver!"
My wife says you be the reason I have a Seamaster. But the watch I wear around the house is a Citizen’s Eco, like $109. Works good and keeps a charge forever.
Got mine at a Macy's on sale for 65% off and I've been wearing it for 3-4 years (I think I tagged you on Instagram when I got it) , not a single issue to report! Can't say enough good things! Thanks for the video Nick.
The pro master dive series is a bit like standard Delica. It’s not super exciting but it’s good at what it does, it’s a good value, and hardly anyone would actually be unhappy with it.
Citizen's my favorite watch brand. This is a really nice piece. Wish they made a version in blue though.
@Adam21. They do make a blue dial version. The second hand is yellow, looks good. Not sure which to go for myself. Likely the black tho.
I bought one barely used for $200. I was pretty "meh" when I first got it and figured I'd flip it after a month or two, but it surprisingly grew on me after a while. It's a comfortable daily driver due to the light weight, the lume is decent, and the eco-drive is great. My only real gripe is the bezel needs more resistance. It's easily moved by accident. Not sure if it's a long term keeper, but I'm enjoying it for now. No way I'd drop $500 on it though.
I bought one open box. I have not worn it. I wish it had a orange minute hand or second hand. I wonder if I should flip it and get a Seiko Solar BN589. I like the titanium, but i wish this was 2mm smaller.
picked one of these up for $275 brand new. Great value for that price.
I am into watches 💯. Citizen, is one of my favorites out there 💯
I just ordered the orange dial version. It's called BN0200-05X. My first diver and titanium watch ever....I've read conflicting reviews and opinions on titanium. Will treat my new piece right but will have to serve its purpose.
My fancy watch is a Rolex GMT Maater II, the rest of my collection are 4 Citizen 2100’s and this wasn’t off my radar but will definitely pick one up! Great review Nick!
This would be a lovely upgrade from the Citizen BN0191-55L you reviewed years back and 'made' me buy.
The lume on Citizens is crazy good and mine is still running perfectly although it now looks like its been dragged behind a car for most of its life.
Still wish they'd ditch the shiny bits on the bracelet but its good to go as is.
I want one of the new omega X swatch watcheswatches. I know it’s ridiculous but it’s the only way I’ll ever be able to afford an Omega anything. I don’t know if I’ll be able to find one though,,,however. These Citizen pro masters look very 👍 nice
I got a bm6560 titanium eco drive for christmas from my father. I'm happy with it works like a charm. I do agree with the point on ti being a warmer steel.
I have the Blue sunburs dial, yellow seconds hand, glossy bezel variant, its my favorite watch.
Great review Nick!
I own this same watch from 2018 and it's been great. In 19 I got married in Jamaica and as a wedding gift I upgraded my dive licence with PADI to advanced. The instructors digital dive watch had broke several days before and so we used tables to dive with. That means I got to use my actual dive watch to time my dives!
I completely agree with the bracelet; it's lazy and crap.
I also agree with the crystal as I scratched mine last year on something so subtle I didn't notice till later in the day.
I also want to point out dive watches are the ultimate fidget spinner.
The bracelet sucks i never get the right size with it ... Going to buy a Silikon for it
It's funny, while I was pondering how a great watch like this one can still leave you feeling "meh" about it, Jody at JOMW dropped a video about yet another Seiko SKX, a watch that is an icon despite its flaws. Could it be that perhaps, possibly, maybe, watch people are just insane?
Watches are 95% brand perception and 5% quality.
@@impatrickt Only 95%?😄
I wore this watch on a NATO for 6 months. I sold it. Press in on the bezel and it won't turn. Sand seized it up worse than any dive watch I have ever owned (9 and counting). Crown is way too small. Very hard to read the date. Lume was great. Watch hands were hard to get used to. Consider a seiko solar dive watch, (not a tuna solar). I did. It's running great. 8 months, 6 seconds fast. None of these issues. I'm glad a changed it out.
Thank you for sharing the weight. I was going crazy looking for it. You'd think Citizen would have it in huge letters on the product listing.. You'd think other reviewers would weight it. Nope. 96grams really is light for a 44mm diver on a bracelet. nice
I have the affordable Citizen Promaster Diver and I have been eyeballing on this one as a step for an upgrade from that!
Had this watch for about 6 months now replacing the Citizen promaster tough titanium. This diver version is a nice watch, could do with a sapphire glass mod though and better looking bezel, other than that solid watch for the money. Have the Citizen titanium BM6931-54E also which is a really nice watch for the money
Why did you replace the Tough?
@@folksurvival Didn't like the face numerals and it was a bit small on my wrist
Citizen has its own interesting designs. Check out the titanium "Orca" eco-drive.
I just bought a nh 8389-88le I hope it’s a good watch they’re going to size it for me as I have a very large wrist so where right around 8 1/4 to 8 1/2 inches or so at no extra cost it looks nice it came to $203.76 with tax. I hope I didn’t get ripped off.
I have this watch an I think it’s pretty awesome. All my watches are titanium. 7 inch wrist an fits perfect. Had to take 3 links out to fit. Great watch for 330 bucks.
The links are held in place with push pins? Easy to remove?
Definitely one of my favorite EDC watches. On a silicone strap, oh yeah.
I will get a silicon strap to ...with the Titanium braclet i never get the right fit
My go-to work watch is a Promaster Tough which is steel with Supertitanium coating and has a sapphire crystal. The coating isn't scratchproof like the crystal, but it is considerably less scratchable than my other Citizen's uncoated stainless. My two complaints are lume that is bright and beautiful but not lasting, and a date window that is not only small but deep-set.
I have the blue version. Easily the best and most comfrotable Japanese watch I've owned.
For the price, not having a sapphire crystal glass makes this watch a deal-breaker. If it had a sapphire crystal glass I would definitely buy it. It should be noted that the eco-drive technology on this watch is much more accurate than a top of the range automatic Rolex watch. Another point is if Rolex watches are serviced every few years, they can literally last hundreds of years. Citizen claims their latest eco-drive watches can last more than 50 years, though I suspect the cheaper mineral glass will be covered in scratches. So on balance, the Rolex would be a better option, despite the massive price tag. If Citizen had included a sapphire crystal glass then I think it would have been a viable cheap alternative to the Rolex Submariner.
46mm size? Looks like I’m never going to wear a goodlooking Citizen diver. Why are they all so huge?
I've got a 6.75" wrist and can confirm that the BN0200 wears closer to a 41mm watch with its ~49mm lug-to-lug length. I think the reason they're so big is tradition, but I've got a couple of 38mm divers that wear super comfortably and don't look out of place at all on my wrist (and I'm a bigger dude).
Nick is one of the few that measures diameter with the crown. Think of this as a 43mm watch. Still big but not gigantic.
I don't think anyone in the world could pull off a 46 inch watch. :D
@@mrand3r50n3 Corrected 😁
Why do we measure watches in millimeters and wrists in inches?
That's an incredibly good question. Wonder that myself
Here in Europe we wonder why anyone measures anything in inches.
@@manfredbaedke7599 When I was growing up in USA we learned metric and everyone assumed we would soon be on it. But the USA is directly democratic in a way many democratic countries are not. We elect judges, we have the right to pass laws without the legislature (in some states), and if the people don’t want something it probably won’t happen. The people didn’t want it, so we stayed on Imperial. That said, many items in daily life are metric.
Witty, down-to-Earth, insightful. Hello from central Ohio!
Nick you crack me up. : ) Thanks, this is the second time I've viewed this. I decided to buy it on your recommendation. And I didn't pay retail. Found it for $275.00 but have to wait a bit as with anything in this covid world. The good news is when I checked the site today it had gone up to $303.00. Still fair but I like paying less. Many thanks for a fun, informative review to set my mind at ease. PS love the Parrot spiel.
They're brand new on Ebay for $220
@@Agent-vj3ns No manufactures warranty.
@@jamesklaatu9359 unnecessary for immaculate citizen movements. This one's as accurate as my radio controlled citizen exceed
@@Agent-vj3ns Well until it is. Otherwise I love mine.
I was looking at getting the auto version of this watch and ended up on the zelos swordfish in ti when that launched
I have this piece and it's a solid daily wear dive watch! This watch is solid n doesn't have the word " Titanium" engraved at the side of the watch case like Hamilton. Ha ha...
Citizen does a nice job w/ their titanium watches ( PMD56 owner ) - they've been making them since the early seventies and have developed coatings that help keep the surfaces in decent shape. Go for the titanium band if you get one, it's worth it IMO.
Titanium is great. I have a titanium Zelos Swordfish that I love, only downside is when I switch to my Samurai I really feel the extra weight.
A watch that's the right size, great. Nothing worse than an over-sized watch.
Nice one Nick 👍🏻
I love the app that can set your watch any time
Great review - covered all the detail and a wider perspective.
I recently got into watches and already have several Citizens and Seikos. One of the Citizens is BN0191-80L. What I understand the only mechanical difference between that model and the one in this review is the bracelet material.
And all promasters are truly tested for water resistance to the stated depth, right?
By the way: it's interesting that several of Citizen's, Seikos' and Orient's diving watches look so similar so one could suspect they are in fact made in the same factory!
Really great review mate, I learned a lot here that would've taken me days looking on forums.
I have the Citizen Eco-Drive Promaster Air Diver's PMX56-2811, which is very similar to this watch except that it has numerals on the face. I've had it for about 10 years with no problems except for some scratches on the inside edge of the aluminum bezel, which is the highest point of the sloped bezel. The watch is so light I hardly know I'm wearing it.
Is there a smaller version of this?
I just got my second one today with a blue face! Lol
Just bought this watch and prefer it over some of my watches that are 3x more money. If it were automatic mechanical it would be my favorite
$500 for mineral glass?? Lol no way
Love the simplicity of the design. My only complaint would be that the date window needs to be bigger/ more legible, and I agree with you on the crystal. Citizen could add $50 to the cost for a saphire.
Great review Nick,the only thing i would say about this watch is the bezel is on the loose side.
Only a little loose, but i have noticed, a few times, when worn under a jumper and coat, it has moved a few seconds.
Citizen state in the instructions the titanium finish has been treated to resist scratches.
Mine was also loosed. But a quick trip to a warch repair shop made it stiffer
@@mg2612 Nice to hear ..did you ask how that was done?
@@SpikeXtreme He just popped off the bezel and under the bezel there is an aluminum thing that gives the bezel it “resistance”. My watch maker just adjust it free of charge hehe
Nick where on gods green earth can you find this watch for $300 from a reputable dealer? I've searched the internet high and low and only find it out of stock, $500 or both.
Jomashop has them for under 300 right now
Yes, they are. That said I have purchased multiple watches from them and besides having a wait at times have had zero issues. Macy’s also has them for under 4 if you prefer an AD.
I can sell you mine for 200 euros
Great watch, if you like dive watches. Would have been even better with Sapphire.
Great review as always
I can't distinguish my replica SMP 300 from yours.. mine has slightly whiter lume but it's dead nuts. Thanks Li 😎
Good Parrot imitation.....Subscribed
I have this in black PVD steel and love it.
Is the.pvd coating easily scratched ?
@@Larry-gs8gb Not at all. I’ve had it about 2 years and wear it a few times per week. Still looks almost new.
I cannot believe this is $500 for a mineral crystal. Are you sure this isn’t a Seiko?
I didn’t understand what you were saying about not paying retail but you paying what you pay.
Hey Nick great review. Thanks. Might try to dive with this. I’ll be one of the ten. 😁
In listening to how this man speaks, I’d say he makes an excellent schmaltz.
Where can this be found in the low $200s as mentioned by Nick?
Amazon
Buy from an authorized online retailer, or no 5 year warranty.
Not gonna stick around for you... so what would it take to get it off of you? Might be interested🧐
Thanks for the review. Love my EcoDrive chronograph but was wanting something a little different for my every day watch
I don’t know.I have an older Skyhawk I’ve had to have the entire movement replaced twice it has the eco-drive.I like this watch however I would prefer the non-titanium version because I like the coin edged bezel
"How many people are actually diving with dive watches?" I work underwater and wear one daily, but I wear a Rotary Super 7.
@Tim Always. Currently a Shearwater Peregrine.
If Casio can put sapphire in their sub £200 Edifice watches, so can Citizen especially at the rrp price they are asking for! If it had sapphire I would purchase.
Good review, have a great new year 👍 😀
I want this watch with a larger crown and in a 40mm size. I hope Citizen revamps it at some point.
A Pro-Master parrot.. brilliant!
I'd take the tidy Citizen over that messy Seamaster anytime. But titanium and no sapphire? Also too large as all Citizens lately.
How does one know if it's not getting enough light for a full charge? Is there a way to check the % of charge?
"Okay we made a clasp, send it" lol
The parrot? Beautiful plumage though.
Wow, I am really tempted
I see that you do not have Movado watches videos. Is it because you do not like them? Not your style? Or because you think they are subpar?
Thanks
Im not a fan because of no sapphire, no ceramic bezel, & bracelet clasp is nasty. A little more money you can get a Seiko King Turtle under $400 on ebay. Great review though! @Nickshabazz will you review a SWC Bunker soon? Thks !!
Until I got a watch pin tool, I used the end of a regular paper clip, and it works fine.
There were no half links :( it didn’t fit my wrist super well which is part of the reason I moved it
Same there you never get the right fit
Opposite for me, the micro adjustments on the clasp did the job and it fits perfect.
Great looking watch.
I just got mine and love it. Much better lume than my previous watch, which is a huge thing for me. I would have liked it if the clasp had the easy extension like my older citizen dive watch, but this seems like a great, basic light-weight watch.
Did Citizen actually transition from solar charged capacitors to solar charged batteries?
No... It's a capacitor. It stores electrical energy. Batteries store chemical energy.
They're often used as words incorrectly though.
@@anthonyonline4740 I think I saw a reviewer who misspoke and reported that Citizen made a change. However, the aftermarket parts I found listed are capacitors, though some were listed as capacitor/battery. Maybe they are electrolytic capacitors or something similar. Thanks.
Current Eco-Drive models use a rechargeable lithium ion battery. www.citizenwatch-global.com/technologies/eco-drive/
A common battery used is the Panasonic MT621. industrial.panasonic.com/ww/products/batteries/secondary-batteries/coin_rechargeable_lithium/models/MT621
@@garyk4017 Thanks. I thought I heard of the change to lithium ion.
Bracelet is easy to adjust, with push pins?
Is this watch truly titanium? Or is it merely aluminum with some sort of titanium coating?
No diver who wants to survive underwater is going to rely on this watch or any other wristwatch for that matter. I own a Citizen and I have to say, I really like it because it's rechargeable, not constantly dying as my expensive, automatic Omega did. That being said, I wish they didn't cut corners, like with the band adjustability, sapphire crystal, or the cheap crowns. Citizen, step up your game & charge a bit more, people with still purchase them.
The biggest mistake was not making this watch in the same proportions ~39-40mm. At that point it would compete with the pelagos, tag heur etc
What’s the Difference between BN0200-56E and BN0200-81E
It's a shame: NO sapphire crystal
This would be a great purchase if it wasn't so large.
Agreed. I could easily see myself getting one as a casual/weekend/travel watch, but for the 44 mm size. I know lug to lug isn't that bad, but 44 mm wide is about 3 mm too wide for my taste.
Just depends on your wrist size...anything below 42mm looks comically small on my wrist, so I'm pretty glad it's 44mm.
For which wrists maximum is the bracelet made ?