been watching plat chat since master's reykjavik 2021 (the first watch party i've seen) and i've followed every plat chat member since, a huge source of my serotonin. you guys are so uniquely funny, especially wyatt. my heart sank when i read the first sentence of your tweet describing the accident, but i'm so glad you're doing well again. get well soon, Dr. Valorant ❤
THANK YOU MEL FOR MENTIONING TENZ RETAKING WITH THE OP. So many doomium NA scoreboard Stevens dunking all over Tenz's KD and im sitting here like "hello am I the only Sentinels fan who watched the game??"
Fr, Sen fans are absolute idiots who can't analyse games. Like just pay attention to a few rounds and you'll be able to tell what their issues are but all they can say is "tenz is the problem"
My theory is that Sentinels wanted to drop Depph but Sykko was blocking that. The reason we don't see that move happening now is that TenZ is sick but they already set into motion the coaching change.
I'm sorry, I know it showed up many times, but I just happened to pause at 1:48:20 & to see, a year later, the agent picks from Sentinels in this series is absolutely maddening. Like, Zekken on Sova?? TenZ on Sage?? Sacy on smokes?? Pancada on Killjoy?? WTF were they doing a year ago, man?? No wonder they're kicking ass this year, they got their heads out of their asses & got everyone to play agents that suit them well.
I hard agree with Mimi about Power Rankings. Power Rankings should be defined as "who is the best team going into next week" not "who was the best team last week". Otherwise the rankings are just last weeks results, there's no point in doing rankings like that, they should be inherently predictive
Mimi is right, LOUD never loses to other Brazilian teams. They've dominated their region ever since their inception, I think last week's power ranking is a brain fart.
Ok I really really want to hear more from MeL about GC. Because the angle that orgs hold on too tightly to GC players preventing them from reaching higher level co-ed is something I’d think not many people have at the forefront of their mind. It shows a whole new level of problems presented by a person that really wants to compete at a high level. It’s really valuable insight, and definitely discussions that should reach up to Riot
I am of the opinion that C9 would never as cordinated as they do now with vanity and yay on the roster. It felt like the old C9 roster felt like Vanity and friends team rather than a cordinated roster. C9 saw yay with rather than putting him in a team that work around him they tried to implement him into an existing system which would have never worked. Yay is a player who prefers to hold sights down and have his team give him information so he can make the plays. I think that playstyle would never had fit with the other C9 players on the roster even if Vanity were removed. I think Runi brings a much more sense of calmness to the team that they much needed and with zelsis being their "emotional leader" of the team it really balances the team out. I would argue that this C9 roster is way more cordinated than what we saw of the C9 roster with vanity and yay, but that might be a hot take.
I rlly hate how Sen vetos away the opponents'good maps instead of just focusing on avoiding their own poor maps. Sen wouldve had a way better chance at winning against Lev if they had banned pearl.
Just waiting for the pacific power rankings. I just wanna know how they rank the middle pack coz i have no clue myself. They couldnhave done that rather than another americas or emea power ranking imo. I am curious in their opinions right now considering the pacific teams are not exactly performing exactly as we predicted maybe except drx and dfm
Wow I just saw the breaking news and honestly I think KC will be better. Maybe still not good, but I think a new igl and Scream being able to focus on what he does best can only help this team
Honest opinion about giants I dont had so much hope for them because their jett is so inconsistent but it seems like the Team is so good that they dont need big Performance from fitinho
maybe it’s a problem that so many agents are meta across so many different maps, it seems like it hurts pro team consistency and lowers the level of competition
Am I crazy? For the longest time I thought Syyko was spelt Sykko... I was wondering why no-one pronounced it like "sicko", but I guess it makes sense now. My whole life has been a lie.
Get well bren and wyatt! Great discussion with Mel. From Riot's page: "We want Game Changers to become the stepping stone that pushes more women to compete within the International and Challenger Leagues." Honestly I don't know how solvable it is but it's good that elite players like Mel are being considered, which is really the whole point.
i mean balla just looked dead into the camera and said the only reason he could think of for sykko getting fired is bc he wouldnt bench tenz for marved... they rlly arent much better lmao
Best wishes for Wyatt and his recover! Just wanted to maybe bring up a point that brings some red flags for me looking at Sen and their situation. So they kick syyko and no one understands why yet we question the “macro”, “how does the kj and sova both rotate and leave Tenz to op a line”. Isn’t that’s igl call?? Why is it these bad plays that are happening not Dephh being called out?
Mel's opinion on g2 is so so wrong. G2 plays in Europe where there aren't many 3rd party tournies, forget participating in them. You can't compare g2 with the same standards you compare other NA teams
Deph is the Problem you have one of the best Initiators in the world on that Team with sacy and he Plays smokes and one of the best smokes Players is playing sentinel like wtf deph just has to play whats left an fill because he is by far the worst Player in this team get Don back an let him igl and it will even work better😂
@@343JustMe SA teams are always underestimated. Even Furia, that was the only team close to take a map from Fnatic, and didn’t get stomped by them, in lock in, besides Loud, you guys still considered them as a worst team then Sen and 100t, that literally got stomped. I agree that is too early to consider mibr a top contender but at least people should give the credit for their win to them, and not say “oh nrg was in a bad day.”
@@leonrabello635 I'm not taking away any credit from mine but everyone knows that NRG are a team that beat them 7/10 times. SA are great and right now furia is definitely better than Sen and 100t and loud are a tier beyond everyone in Americas. I agree SA are doing great but then again theyre all playing with practically the same team from before franchising with minimal changes (other than loud which is ironic). Na also don't exactly have a lot of their best players in franchising. I mean spots are being taken up by ppl like boostio and dephh for god's sake, it's crazy
Yeah, zekken, sacy, pancada, marved seems a pretty scary core, but dephh... it looks like he always loses on the igl battles and aim duels. About NRG, feel like they are getting worst, it can be just a fase, but like they did with Furia above Loud last power rank, i was expecting the same thing.
been watching plat chat since master's reykjavik 2021 (the first watch party i've seen) and i've followed every plat chat member since, a huge source of my serotonin. you guys are so uniquely funny, especially wyatt. my heart sank when i read the first sentence of your tweet describing the accident, but i'm so glad you're doing well again. get well soon, Dr. Valorant ❤
fuckin same^^^!!!
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Not to be that guy, but did u mean dopamine?
Sending my regards to Wyatt, I absolutely love his energy and I miss listening to his Whimsey on the podcast.
Wish you a speedy recovery man
Mel is the literal best, would love to see her show up more lol
best at choking LMFAO
Huge ego for someone who won nothing significant
“Bro for real bro imagiiing hes cooking lol bro for real lmao” thats literally everything she said
@@angelovl1337 wdym best at chocking? she literally just won 1st place
@@tardwrangler1019 so mad for what
Now, more than ever, we need cloning technology so we can have the Five Sideshows vs KC Showmatch
6, need sideshow as a coach
edit: scratch that make it 7, a sub too in case one of the sideshows get an injury
Sideshow would wipe KC
@JustMe average KCorp fan
@@koolbanana7094 I'm pretty sure they meant sideshow destroys KC?
get avast onto it
THANK YOU MEL FOR MENTIONING TENZ RETAKING WITH THE OP. So many doomium NA scoreboard Stevens dunking all over Tenz's KD and im sitting here like "hello am I the only Sentinels fan who watched the game??"
Fr, Sen fans are absolute idiots who can't analyse games. Like just pay attention to a few rounds and you'll be able to tell what their issues are but all they can say is "tenz is the problem"
scoreboard stevens lmaooo but yeah true not just tenz looked off everyone besides zekken were off
Its fun to hear mels perspective as a player, would love too see more players in these podcasts.
I want to see composed and stoic Sliggy talking to sleep-deprived-but-high-on-caffeine Bren.
All the best wishes to Bren and Wyatt.
My theory is that Sentinels wanted to drop Depph but Sykko was blocking that. The reason we don't see that move happening now is that TenZ is sick but they already set into motion the coaching change.
Wrong Theory
Sideshow really feeding into the Dr. Eggman Cosplay now
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Great episode. Loved hearing the insight into V1 from meL. Honestly, I believe the hype. Florescent might be the first GC player to make it to VCT
I'm so hyped and by the sounds of things if mel is correct, it may not be long to see this kind of thing. I can't wait.
I'm sorry, I know it showed up many times, but I just happened to pause at 1:48:20 & to see, a year later, the agent picks from Sentinels in this series is absolutely maddening. Like, Zekken on Sova?? TenZ on Sage?? Sacy on smokes?? Pancada on Killjoy??
WTF were they doing a year ago, man?? No wonder they're kicking ass this year, they got their heads out of their asses & got everyone to play agents that suit them well.
Wyatt we need you!
What a horribly scary thing to happen
Miss you on the show. Hope you’re up and about real soon. :)
been rewatching these. It just starts to convince me that the EG story is one of if not the greatest in esports ever
I hard agree with Mimi about Power Rankings. Power Rankings should be defined as "who is the best team going into next week" not "who was the best team last week". Otherwise the rankings are just last weeks results, there's no point in doing rankings like that, they should be inherently predictive
Never doubt meL again
Hopefully Bren and Wyatt get well soon!
Also we need more Mel on this pod! Her perspective is so interesting and insightful.
jihyorge dp?
Loved meL on the podcast giving a fresh take on game changers and the scene as a whole. Wish all the best for Wyatt.
Hope you recover well Wyatt, can’t wait to see you back and at it!
Love mel on this episode. Would love to see more of her and sliggy!
This aged well
Mimi is right, LOUD never loses to other Brazilian teams. They've dominated their region ever since their inception, I think last week's power ranking is a brain fart.
We need more Mel man i wish she was a recurring guest or maybe stream a bit, rare that you find ppl insightful like her
Ok I really really want to hear more from MeL about GC. Because the angle that orgs hold on too tightly to GC players preventing them from reaching higher level co-ed is something I’d think not many people have at the forefront of their mind. It shows a whole new level of problems presented by a person that really wants to compete at a high level.
It’s really valuable insight, and definitely discussions that should reach up to Riot
wishing you the best wyatt one of my favorite content creators and just a lovely guy
mimi with those damn poker chips it’s all i hear when she talks lmaoooo
wish you a speedy recovery wyatt, both from the car and the vods
Wishing Wyatt a speedy recovery!
I am of the opinion that C9 would never as cordinated as they do now with vanity and yay on the roster. It felt like the old C9 roster felt like Vanity and friends team rather than a cordinated roster. C9 saw yay with rather than putting him in a team that work around him they tried to implement him into an existing system which would have never worked. Yay is a player who prefers to hold sights down and have his team give him information so he can make the plays. I think that playstyle would never had fit with the other C9 players on the roster even if Vanity were removed. I think Runi brings a much more sense of calmness to the team that they much needed and with zelsis being their "emotional leader" of the team it really balances the team out. I would argue that this C9 roster is way more cordinated than what we saw of the C9 roster with vanity and yay, but that might be a hot take.
I hope so much that VX will play Gozen at GC Champions. I want to see Mary match up vs Flore that's going to be insane!
I rlly hate how Sen vetos away the opponents'good maps instead of just focusing on avoiding their own poor maps. Sen wouldve had a way better chance at winning against Lev if they had banned pearl.
Probably Scream would be great to have as team captain but not as IGL
Can't spell Wyatt without a huge W. I hope he gets better soon, wishing him the best.
Just waiting for the pacific power rankings. I just wanna know how they rank the middle pack coz i have no clue myself. They couldnhave done that rather than another americas or emea power ranking imo. I am curious in their opinions right now considering the pacific teams are not exactly performing exactly as we predicted maybe except drx and dfm
Interested to see how well SEN can counter Loud with two former LOUD players.
Wow I just saw the breaking news and honestly I think KC will be better. Maybe still not good, but I think a new igl and Scream being able to focus on what he does best can only help this team
get well soon wyatt
Saying keznit isnt as good as leaf is crazy
Mel is crazy or the goat only future knows
I think you guys should have topic for challengers league NA
It popping
After watching the 100T series, meL is a genius except for the nrg copium pick
Gws wyatt bless ur recovery
Sideshow is on his Charles Bronson arc.
Sending love and good vibes Wyatt ❤
Mel making good decisions leaving clown 9 is realy good I like it 😂
Mel is hyping Flor way to much pls stop when you want to be the best Player in the world you have to win at least one big tournement 😂
Global power rankings next week?
C9 at this rate are just going to climb to top 3 when the beat fruia
Honest opinion about giants I dont had so much hope for them because their jett is so inconsistent but it seems like the Team is so good that they dont need big Performance from fitinho
32:28 LMAOOO
14:52 I mean cloud 9 was pretty surprising, no?
maybe it’s a problem that so many agents are meta across so many different maps, it seems like it hurts pro team consistency and lowers the level of competition
Teams just need to adapt then, get players who are more flexible instead of getting one tricks who are only good at like jett or something
@@jomariong7882 yeah like fnatic they use a different comp for every map because their players are flexible
Get well soon, Wyatt!
Sentinels for sure got better with Marved and most of the players playing their own role
Waiting for next week sideshow to be talking about KC playing better with a coach
Sentinals are Xset/Optic/Loud vs New Loud
Furia did not look like they were properly on their game either in that game, according to Sliggy
You guys forgot to predict Loud X EG?
Mel went 7/8 on picks LOL
Am I crazy? For the longest time I thought Syyko was spelt Sykko... I was wondering why no-one pronounced it like "sicko", but I guess it makes sense now. My whole life has been a lie.
Get well bren and wyatt!
Great discussion with Mel. From Riot's page: "We want Game Changers to become the stepping stone that pushes more women to compete within the International and Challenger Leagues." Honestly I don't know how solvable it is but it's good that elite players like Mel are being considered, which is really the whole point.
every NA team has fuckin role issues man istg
FLOR IS GOATED.
Whats stopping them from just making a team and going thru challengers ??
They try to but they're horrible so they get knocked out by T3 pugstacks.
My weekly dosage of platchat so I don't go crazy over reading the opinions of braindead 12 year olds online
i mean balla just looked dead into the camera and said the only reason he could think of for sykko getting fired is bc he wouldnt bench tenz for marved... they rlly arent much better lmao
@@narcolepticbadger9659 balla is just stupid
plat chat
scream didn't call against Navi, and they did substantially better than before. IGL scream was the problem and he wasn't willing to accept it
Best wishes for Wyatt and his recover! Just wanted to maybe bring up a point that brings some red flags for me looking at Sen and their situation. So they kick syyko and no one understands why yet we question the “macro”, “how does the kj and sova both rotate and leave Tenz to op a line”. Isn’t that’s igl call?? Why is it these bad plays that are happening not Dephh being called out?
SEN cutting sykko was probably money related and nothing was happening with the team so change was needed
North brazil is doing kinda bad in the franchises for a region who bragged that having "only" 5 spots was unfair
IKR it's hilarious how after Na saying they needed more spots their super teams might not even make it to top 4
Calm down Jose, it's week 4
Mel's opinion on g2 is so so wrong. G2 plays in Europe where there aren't many 3rd party tournies, forget participating in them. You can't compare g2 with the same standards you compare other NA teams
yall sleeping on mibr
To be honest pacific is also a bit boring compared with emea and americas 😂 at least geng looks good but their noway near drx 😂
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keep doubting 100t
I misss wyaaaaat
No pacific content :(
SO SEN ARE BEATING LOUD AND LOSING AGAINST MIBR LMAOOOOOOOOOO GOD DAMMIT
I want Avast back.
NRG at 4th and MIBR in 5th??? WTH it doesnt make any sense at all...
MIBR defeated NRG, and scores 2 wins and 1 lose
NRG scores 1 win and 2 loses...
Deph is the Problem you have one of the best Initiators in the world on that Team with sacy and he Plays smokes and one of the best smokes Players is playing sentinel like wtf deph just has to play whats left an fill because he is by far the worst Player in this team get Don back an let him igl and it will even work better😂
NRG em 4º???
the NRG is in 4th????
MIBR >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NRG
I love mimi but my god the balisong noise is killing me
BUFF CHAMBER.
Everytime they bring this topic its always the same they never win the open quals so they are not on the challengers teams like ?????
Mel is so oblivious
I do like to see Balla follow up terrible takes with more terrible takes we love to see it.
Mibr beats rng
Proceeds to put nrg above mibr
It was a poor game from nrg, results aren't everything lil bro
@@343JustMe SA teams are always underestimated. Even Furia, that was the only team close to take a map from Fnatic, and didn’t get stomped by them, in lock in, besides Loud, you guys still considered them as a worst team then Sen and 100t, that literally got stomped. I agree that is too early to consider mibr a top contender but at least people should give the credit for their win to them, and not say “oh nrg was in a bad day.”
@@leonrabello635 I'm not taking away any credit from mine but everyone knows that NRG are a team that beat them 7/10 times. SA are great and right now furia is definitely better than Sen and 100t and loud are a tier beyond everyone in Americas. I agree SA are doing great but then again theyre all playing with practically the same team from before franchising with minimal changes (other than loud which is ironic). Na also don't exactly have a lot of their best players in franchising. I mean spots are being taken up by ppl like boostio and dephh for god's sake, it's crazy
Yeah, zekken, sacy, pancada, marved seems a pretty scary core, but dephh... it looks like he always loses on the igl battles and aim duels. About NRG, feel like they are getting worst, it can be just a fase, but like they did with Furia above Loud last power rank, i was expecting the same thing.
Just wait mibr beat Lev and Sen to see then in PR
Mel is coping hard re G2 gozen
It’s great to see GC talent on the show but can we have more insight then ‘ BRO THEIR COOKING ‘
Mel it is a skill issue. Your teams, c9w and V1 both lost to bums in the open qualifiers. Drop your ego and just agree that you're not good enough
she literally said she was scouted by previous t1/2 teams before ?
Your mom wasted 9 months of her life
@@Maleficent_Method973 like what? guanzhong tigers?
Mel is so biased on her predictions, smh