Stewards decision from PSGL Discord: Lap 17 T1: Thomas Ronhaar braked significantly too late, 2 license points + 5s time penalty to serve on Thomas' next event. Lap 18 T12: Thomas Ronhaar turned in too sharply and made contact with the rear axle of Jarno Opmeer, reducing the latter's steering capabilities. 1 license point + warning to Thomas. Lap 18 T19: Thomas Ronhaar failed to leave Jarno Opmeer significant space on the outside and forced the latter off the track. 1 license point + 3s time penalty to serve on Thomas' next event. Lap 19 T8: Neither driver reported this incident, so stewards didn't investigate. Conclusion: 4 license points + 8s time penalty to serve on Thomas' next event.
You know if he’d own up to his mistakes rather then berate satirically to Jarno on discord, I think our reaction would be entirely diff, but seeing as he is delulu about it, deserved.
@@gunzStatichis q1 lap looked like he had that grip hack back on. Dude was 2 tenths quicker than anyones 2nd run on his first run before karma got his ass lmao
Ronhaar turning into Jarno, pushing him off track multiple times, driving into him, then tries a divebomb at an impossible angle, isnt alongside him, theres no space in there anyway, and hits his rear wheel which in real cars would have taken Jarno out most likely, and then calls Jarno a joke. Ronhaar has horrible racecraft, horrible wheel to wheel, and horrible standards. Shouldnt be racing alongside guys like Jarno and Lucas.
Driving like that and then having the gall to call Jarno a joke is just plain ridiculous. What Ronhaar is doing there is simply open lobbies without rules.
@@brikkehuygen955jarno is ahead at the apex and has given Thomas plenty of room to go around him yet Thomas still turns right into him and causes their wheels to lock. Jarno has no need to give him any more space than was already given
@@brikkehuygen955it was jarno corner, basically in f1, when overtaking around the outside( like ronhaar tried ) you must be ahead at the apex, otherwise the guy on the inside doesn’t have to give any space, and ronhaar clearly wasn’t ahead at the apex Therefore, jarno doesn’t need to give him any space which jarno doesn’t, which is completely fair as ronhaar realistically should’ve just backed out.
Contact physics of this game are laughable as well. So many times that if you drove like either of them in real life you’d be dead… Ronhaars driving is laughable, it’s a shame this game doesn’t simulate wheel contact. If it did he couldn’t attempt the stupid sht he does and the racing wouldn’t look like such a joke.
@@alecmillea4539 i wish cars could actually bounce over other cars wheels, wonder what difference that would make to online racing standards, probably not much after all
Watch when Lucas and Jarno battle , it’s always hard but clean racing everytime but when it’s ronhaar and butcher and Otis it’s always the same result…
Exactly their is a reason why those two guys are so consistent and ate considered leagues better than the rest. Give some of these guys a slight tire advantage and they think their entitled and go dive bombing every other corner.
@@ctaaa76well yeah thats, bc lucas gives jarno space so jarno gives Lucas space. But if you get divebombed and pushed off at every turn by ronhaard, your temper will at some point fall short.
I feel like Thomas is still mad for last season u can see by the camera when jarno messes up on that 1 corner he's Turing out of it so u can't blame him and when Thom does it he has no emotion like it didn't happen it's crazy
The thing I have in racing, either real or in a game, is respect. And there is none, absolutely none shown by Romhaar and then he dares to call Jarno a joke. Get him out of that league
watching it live on psgl it just looked like both drivers just didn't leave any space. from these onboards, it is clear Ronhaar is at fault for all of them😅
Agreed, most annoying part is he tries to act oblivious when clearly at this level of racing everyone knows better than to drive like that. Well maybe the stewards might be more annoying letting stuff like this go unpunished literally every race…
@@ross_boss Im saying that from the stats and such, we can confidently say he was cheating but given its only stats and apparently no concrete proof we have to treat him as a legit driver since innocent until proven guilty
@@TheoF1 tbh hes kinda shit at driving with people near him idk how he was so good last year, didn't he have to fight there too? Why is he so bad all of a sudden
@@ross_boss They said it in their comment. Everyone and their mom knew he was cheating and now it seems like it's finally caught up to him. Karma innit.
Ronhaar somehow manages to go full throttle straight out the corner after being sideways through the corner yet cannot race a simple 1-1 battle. Shocking
Ronhaar is just a time trial specialist, incredibly quick over a single lap by himelf - uncapable of competing with other drivers of a similar level. His wheel to wheel is shocking
this is the funniest shit man, these TT merchants are really showing they are just that, TT merchants and Jarno smiling then Ronhaar spins out really is the cherry on top, that man is DONE
was that ronhaar's engineer saying "my guy there's such a thing as space" lmao. I have to laugh at when he spins also. laughing calling jarno a joke, yet he immediately goes back to racing normally against Bari and doesn't start throwing it up the inside or making contact.
the fact that jarno's car barely budged during that final incident tells me everything i need to know, thomas didnt do that move right and idk why he thinks he had a chance
On the previous lap they went side by side through the Fagnes chicane, but there was no contact, they left each other plenty of space. Next time they were side by side was the T1 send by Thomas as seen in the video, so I don't know what "before" you are talking about, but correct me if I'm wrong of course :)
Jarno and Lucas are actual racers.. Those other kids are just time trial merchants who cant keep their head when going wheel to wheel. What psgl dont seem to understand is that the guys with the fastest laptimes are not necessarily the best drivers...
Stewards decision from PSGL Discord:
Lap 17 T1: Thomas Ronhaar braked significantly too late, 2 license points + 5s time penalty to serve on Thomas' next event.
Lap 18 T12: Thomas Ronhaar turned in too sharply and made contact with the rear axle of Jarno Opmeer, reducing the latter's steering capabilities. 1 license point + warning to Thomas.
Lap 18 T19: Thomas Ronhaar failed to leave Jarno Opmeer significant space on the outside and forced the latter off the track. 1 license point + 3s time penalty to serve on Thomas' next event.
Lap 19 T8: Neither driver reported this incident, so stewards didn't investigate.
Conclusion: 4 license points + 8s time penalty to serve on Thomas' next event.
yeah obvious penalty for obvious stupid move for ronhaar
justice
What is license point? Is that like warning point until you maxed it out and you cant race anymore?
@@SFCFiz i just know if it reach certain point , you will get race or season banned
You know if he’d own up to his mistakes rather then berate satirically to Jarno on discord, I think our reaction would be entirely diff, but seeing as he is delulu about it, deserved.
Imagine being as delusional as Thomas. Amazing.
That is how all cheaters are. 100% pure delusion.
I bet hes less delusional than Jarno fannerds
@@yubakadi217Tell me you didn't watch the video without telling me
@@yubakadi217 can you honestly justify the actions in this video without delusion?
@@gunzStatichis q1 lap looked like he had that grip hack back on. Dude was 2 tenths quicker than anyones 2nd run on his first run before karma got his ass lmao
Im not sure how I feel about Ronhaar describing himself in the third person
haha
Damn it! U said the joke first! 😡😅
Dude, the amount of time for me to get this joke was longer than de Vries' F1 career
@@Panda-xx4hsbro why did you do debris like that
Ronhaar turning into Jarno, pushing him off track multiple times, driving into him, then tries a divebomb at an impossible angle, isnt alongside him, theres no space in there anyway, and hits his rear wheel which in real cars would have taken Jarno out most likely, and then calls Jarno a joke. Ronhaar has horrible racecraft, horrible wheel to wheel, and horrible standards. Shouldnt be racing alongside guys like Jarno and Lucas.
Not even the worst part for me (although it is pretty shocking all things considered), it's the absolute nerve to complain about it afterwards.
@@RostCoD4 Couldn't believe that, hopefully he re watches it and realises that he's in the wrong but I'm not hopeful
Whomas GOAThaar owns flopmeer
@@williamhobbs4202It’s Ronhaar he has no care for the other racers
😐@@cadillac.krafter.6279
Driving like that and then having the gall to call Jarno a joke is just plain ridiculous. What Ronhaar is doing there is simply open lobbies without rules.
he was talking about himself i think, a bit weird in 3rd person though...
@@johnnynguyennnhe waa talking about jarno clearly.
@@CR00SWIJKr/wooooosh
@@CR00SWIJK sarcasm fam...
in that last sorry attempt for an overtake on jarno, there was no gap there. bro listened to "if you do not go for a gap" and got pumped off it.
What I find fascinating about it is the fact that Jarno doesn't need a single dirty move from his side to overtake or defend Ronhaar.
True, the only thing I could see is Jarno not giving Thomas enough space at 1:05
@@brikkehuygen955 im pretty sure that was Jarno's turn, thomas shouldve backed off but i could be wrong tho
@@leventebor8405 Maybe, I don't know the exact rules around that either
@@brikkehuygen955jarno is ahead at the apex and has given Thomas plenty of room to go around him yet Thomas still turns right into him and causes their wheels to lock. Jarno has no need to give him any more space than was already given
@@brikkehuygen955it was jarno corner, basically in f1, when overtaking around the outside( like ronhaar tried ) you must be ahead at the apex, otherwise the guy on the inside doesn’t have to give any space, and ronhaar clearly wasn’t ahead at the apex Therefore, jarno doesn’t need to give him any space which jarno doesn’t, which is completely fair as ronhaar realistically should’ve just backed out.
Ronhaar's driving standards are laughable.
traditions
As expected from #cryhaard
Contact physics of this game are laughable as well. So many times that if you drove like either of them in real life you’d be dead… Ronhaars driving is laughable, it’s a shame this game doesn’t simulate wheel contact. If it did he couldn’t attempt the stupid sht he does and the racing wouldn’t look like such a joke.
@@alecmillea4539the game simulates damage, they have it turned off in this league for some reason
@@alecmillea4539 i wish cars could actually bounce over other cars wheels, wonder what difference that would make to online racing standards, probably not much after all
2:38 **Ronhaar dive Bombs opmeer in A 90 DEGREE TURN** "HoNeStLy ThIs GuY iS sUcH a JoKe"
There's no way he actually believes what he's saying 😭😭😭
@@manio2k I wouldn't be so sure
He just describe himself😂😂
Those moves from Thomas… Not smart. There is a thing called patience.
it still never leaves space. sorry thomas kkkk
Watch when Lucas and Jarno battle , it’s always hard but clean racing everytime but when it’s ronhaar and butcher and Otis it’s always the same result…
Exactly their is a reason why those two guys are so consistent and ate considered leagues better than the rest. Give some of these guys a slight tire advantage and they think their entitled and go dive bombing every other corner.
Only thing I would say is jarno is also way cleaner and fairer when battling Lucas. He is defiantly more agressive with Thomas
@@ctaaa76well yeah thats, bc lucas gives jarno space so jarno gives Lucas space. But if you get divebombed and pushed off at every turn by ronhaard, your temper will at some point fall short.
@@boerekool635 but when jarno and Thomas battle nether leave each other space and that facts
and then he blames jarno for closing the door on not griphaars corner
I feel like Thomas is still mad for last season u can see by the camera when jarno messes up on that 1 corner he's Turing out of it so u can't blame him and when Thom does it he has no emotion like it didn't happen it's crazy
The thing I have in racing, either real or in a game, is respect. And there is none, absolutely none shown by Romhaar and then he dares to call Jarno a joke. Get him out of that league
How nice of Thomas to give us some self commentary after 2:43
thomas after trying the 3 most braindead dives ever seen to mankind: "He is such a joke man, I can't believe it." lmao
The audacity to call Jarno the joke here 💀
watching it live on psgl it just looked like both drivers just didn't leave any space. from these onboards, it is clear Ronhaar is at fault for all of them😅
facts, thougt about that to...
He probably won't admit it but there's no way Ronhaar looks back at this and doesnt feel embarrassed.
Agreed, most annoying part is he tries to act oblivious when clearly at this level of racing everyone knows better than to drive like that. Well maybe the stewards might be more annoying letting stuff like this go unpunished literally every race…
He cant brake properly because hes not have extra grip :)
Get him out of the League like wtf
kind of sad to see jarno have to deal with this so often recently, dude just wants to race but the competition seems to be regressing rapidly
Wonder why Thomas is not dominating this year in PSGL? He really should have been banned last year.
King for uploading it immediately❤
"you're supposed to leave a little space"
as jarno is on the inside apex of a turn...any more space and he'd be on the grass
0:45 clips Jarno's rear wheel and makes him understeer, then goes "my guy, there's something called space"
@@chrissss696 right? As if he doesn't know how this game's physics works.
W Jarno for not needy to drive like an average GTA racer to keep a guy who can’t win without grip mods behind 🐐🐐
Dude can't even overtake with hacks let alone drive like at all
Its unbelievable how perfectly Ronhaars face matches his behaviour
pighaar
a lot of drivers in these league races are just hotlap merchants
Totally man, you can see most of these guys wheel to wheel race knowledge is absent. They look like they don't even train racing
99% of f1 esports drivers are glorified time trial sweats. jarno is one of the few that actually knows what 'racing' is.
I guess Clownhaar only wins when he's cheating 🤡🤡🤡🤡
Clownhaar
i am new to this game and when i see this from a neutral perspective ronhaar should be rookie rank in iRacing
He allegedly cheated in last year's game
@@ross_boss Im saying that from the stats and such, we can confidently say he was cheating but given its only stats and apparently no concrete proof we have to treat him as a legit driver since innocent until proven guilty
@@TheoF1 tbh hes kinda shit at driving with people near him idk how he was so good last year, didn't he have to fight there too? Why is he so bad all of a sudden
@@ross_boss They said it in their comment. Everyone and their mom knew he was cheating and now it seems like it's finally caught up to him. Karma innit.
Lmfao no way fathaar is calling anyone any sort of names
@@eccreset4250 💀It’s just real
@@eccreset4250 swing and a miss but try again also ronhaar isn’t gonna have sex with you so stop being on his meat
@@eccreset4250 body shaming fat tards so they can do better with their health. we doing them a favor
@@eccreset4250i do not expect more from a mercedes fan tbh
@@eccreset4250”you should never body shame someone”
Literally body shames someone about 20 words later.
jarno goat 🗿
Ronhaar somehow manages to go full throttle straight out the corner after being sideways through the corner yet cannot race a simple 1-1 battle. Shocking
Ronhaar started crying 😭
For a reason, only clean racer ín the league
@@sandordomonkos8351hahaahhahahha
@@sandordomonkos8351we found Ronhaar’s friend lol
the big problem is that ronhaar driving like normal when someone is inside or outside him. He need to learn how to give space to each other.
2:22 Ricciardo at his prime, 2 laps older tyres and still schooling him
Ronhaar is just a time trial specialist, incredibly quick over a single lap by himelf - uncapable of competing with other drivers of a similar level. His wheel to wheel is shocking
Ronhaar is not even mid without cheats
My mouth couldn't close while I was watching this video from laughing😂😂😂
How long until people start getting race bans for driving standards?
I can't find this stream of psgl on twitch! has jarno removed it or what?
Ronharr says Something called space to jarno. Then later in the lap proceeds to give him no room on exit of last corner
Is grip hack still a thing also this year?
That was a kamikaze banzai torpedo move if I ever saw one.
You can tell who raced in real life...
Everyone is so calm and relaxed during these races 💀
2:42 "This guy is suck a joke" What was blud thinking, that he's gonna stick that move? 😂
Thomas not holding his brakes as he spun.
All this dirty moves make this league look like GT7 :) :P
this is the funniest shit man, these TT merchants are really showing they are just that, TT merchants and Jarno smiling then Ronhaar spins out really is the cherry on top, that man is DONE
Great move by Jarno into les combes! By the way, why did he let Lucas pass?
you cant even say one of them is too dirty because at this point both of them just hate each other and have no problem leaving no space.
Ooooh he's a big ol boy isn't he!
Ronhaar looks like a villain in an animated film
Ronhaar doesnt get that if you dont have the apex, the other one doesnt need to leave any space
Poor Dani Bereznay.
Ronhaar: "There's something called space."
Neil Degrasse Tyson: "Theoretically, you're wrong. Here's why..."
0:46 gives jarno massive oversteer and goes "my guy there is something about giving space" hahaha
King
You’ve heard of the Clone Wars, now we have the Clown Wars
ive noticed that whenever thomas fights with someone he just dosent leave space and then blames other people
How come thomas ronhar not be on pole anymore?
was that ronhaar's engineer saying "my guy there's such a thing as space" lmao. I have to laugh at when he spins also. laughing calling jarno a joke, yet he immediately goes back to racing normally against Bari and doesn't start throwing it up the inside or making contact.
If something isnt done about driving standards the sport just wont progress
BIG W jarno
The only 2 things worse than Ronhaars antics are his self awareness and amazingly, the quality of his mic.
the fact that jarno's car barely budged during that final incident tells me everything i need to know, thomas didnt do that move right and idk why he thinks he had a chance
Psgl is just f1 esports right or is WOR the official f1 esports?
Neither are. They're both independent leagues.
Why is damage even off?
Ronhaar dont want to experience what he is doing on Jarno. such a funny guy
The fact that Ramhaar only apologised to Bari is Ridiculous
It was jarno's corner on every attempt WRonghar thinks its bumber cars
ronhaar oink oink hit the treadmill son. king of calories
Ronhaar thinking he is in a bumper cart
bruh that last lunge was impossible... Thomas wasnt even half a car aside... bruh he even complains lmao
ronhaar are driving like its f1 23 online lmfao
How is Thomas pushing everyone wide, giving the blame on them and keeping a straight face. This guy does not know how to race
this is exactly how war is explained. One side: I'm right! the other side: No, I'm right!😅
Bro rlly called jarno clown lollllllll what a guy
There was something before the video i think, where it all began
On the previous lap they went side by side through the Fagnes chicane, but there was no contact, they left each other plenty of space.
Next time they were side by side was the T1 send by Thomas as seen in the video, so I don't know what "before" you are talking about, but correct me if I'm wrong of course :)
WHAT A GUY
2:42 lol divebombs
Jarno need anger manegmant
Jarno and Lucas are actual racers.. Those other kids are just time trial merchants who cant keep their head when going wheel to wheel. What psgl dont seem to understand is that the guys with the fastest laptimes are not necessarily the best drivers...
Oh and thomas is prob a cheater as well who somehow can keep the highest speed through corners with a low downforce setup😂
no racecraft from the alfa, mazepin/stroll type that guy
Ronhaar driving like no other cars exist.😂
Love it crash into jarno from a massive dive bomb ad call him a joke 😅😅
Why is this guy still in psgl
ronhaar looks like a discord mod
ronhaar has got a massive forehead holyyyyyy
Rhonnar at the end complaining even though he tried to take the inside from about a carlenght behind, what a clown
Clownhaar Griphaar Fathaar
The fact that he called jarno a joke 😂
That late breaking is astonishing from jarno
Ronhaar the most brexit driver around
Thomas need a new microphone lol.
Ronhaar showing his true skill without cheats in f1 23
He stands and he will stand against everyone if he does so. It wasn't even wheel to wheel at the end. He is a joke, a clown.
Thomas is racing alone
Bro forgot he didnt have grip hacks anymore😂
I need to get Ronhaar plugs 🔌 number 😂🤣