The Kissing Booth Is Netflix's Worst Romance Movie
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Elle’s mother is the best character. She at least had the good sense to die in the first five minutes so she didn’t have to be in this trash fire of a movie.
Lolol perfection
Too bad the dad stayed, he is my favourite character y'know, he knew how trash the movie will be but he stayed to watch over his daughter and son
And you see he is suffering for it, it really isn't fun and he isn't going to fake it like the others, but he is doing it for his kids, a true inspiration for all men, fathers and humanity in general
Hope we see a movie about him
Holy shit 🤣🤣🤣
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Savage.
The movie implies that Lee doesn't want Elle dating Noah because he's insecure, but if his IMMEDIATE reaction to seeing Elle hurt was that Noah did it... I think there's another reason why
Honestly, as a sibling, you'd know your sibling best. If Noah was that violent as a child, Lee probably had some experience getting beat up by him too. Also, Noah doesnt really hide his violent personality
@@gram7354 Given that Noah didn't really hesitate when it came to trying to attack Lee all over an accusation, I would say Lee probably does indeed have experience getting beat up by him.
Totally. And I guess maybe you're supposed to think Lee is trying to manipulate her into breaking up with Noah due to his insecurity, but even if that is the case the point still stands. We constantly see Noah being aggressive throughout the movie and I wouldn't have been shocked if he hit Elle at some point in a fit of rage (like during the car scene).
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“She has no idea what she’s getting into!!” Yeaa uhm Lee, my guy, sounds kinda spooky. you should probably tell her then?!? 😬 yikes
Coming from a sexual abuse victim, it's super gross that they treat her being groped as a cutesy minor little thing. That sort of thing is very traumatic and the fact that she immediately forgave him and even almost got with him says a lot about the movie.
Literally this whole movie triggers my SA ptsd I watched it with my friends as a 16 year old and felt widely uncomfortable and sad bc they had this girl act this shit out like how harmful to her and also it's so gross anyone took his role. He is a bad character and it was obviously written by someone with a childish mindset on sexual interactions and the reality of consent and how ptsd works.
And they made more than one movie off this shit wtf🫥
For real, I had been in 2 really bad ones (physically,sexually,emotionally,mentally) it was hell,… this whole movie and everything doesn’t sit right with me.
@Ava-nx2jy first of all , I'm sorry for everything you went through and I hope things got better for you :) 💕💕💕💕
And your emotions about this movie are valid , as someone who didn't go through any kind of abuse but I know many family members in toxic/abusive relationships , I can say that their relationship is not stable and even if a person who didn't go through any forme of abuse will know this relationship is toxic
Btw this movie was originally a wattpad story written by a 15 year old girl , so I guess it makes sence why it isn't great but the fact that grown adults choose to make this a movie is dumb
I thought the exact same thing, and also the whole film is around her falling in love with a really violent guy who shouts at her to "get in the car" really aggressively. This movie is so weird, and it just triggers me so much.
The fact this was made by a 15 year old girl and then remade by some old man was actually crazy 💀💀
Really? That explains it. At 15 I was into bad boys and all of it shown in the movie. At 28, I know better lol
@@rabailjehan6454 I am 15 now growing up I was never really into the idea of crushes and I still don’t get them that much, I’ve liked like two people in my entire life 💁🏽♀️ and I’ve actually been working on my own 3 books
I think it’s really telling lmao, some 15 year old was going through a phase of “I want a bad boy who’s terrible to everyone but me bc I can fix him” and then some weirdo adult man saw that and was like “this is so perfect and there’s nothing wrong with any of the dynamics in this movie”
@@g0ref4iry48or he saw that it was popular with young girls & didn’t care about the message as long as it sold to its target audience (which it did), I highly doubt anyone behind this was super invested lol
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Ok but to be fair. The best friend's "don't fuck my brother" rule makes a lot of sense
He's a violent, angry, creepy, sociopath.
Not really when you realize it was probably just because he thought it'd be gross for his brother and best friend to date. They were kids when they made the rules and he didn't act like the rule was made out of concern. He said that he's never talk to her again, you wouldn't say that if you were actually concern about your friend being in a toxic situation. Every character in the movie sucked honestly except elle but she was extremely flat for a main character.
"But he's a tall and handsome bad boy, I want him!!" 😂
for real. and the way when he first saw them together he assumed he hurt her says a lot
@@nutellacelery8830 Stop acting like not being abre to kiss a single guy who she barely talks to is a horrible task. They've known each other since they were born, it would be weird for both of them and his brother is a horrible person anyway. They are all horrible and controlling people but if you can't even stop yourself from kissing your lifelong best friend's brother you are just a bad friend
@@jonzinizin5498 especially because said brother said he views Elle like a little sister like what the absolute fuck ?!?!
Aside from Noah, Lee is also extremely creepy.
They could have made his disapproval of Noah dating Elle be about caring about her well-being because he knows his brother is an abusive asshole. But instead it boiled down to "you were the one thing I had that Noah didn't have"; like it's a rivalry game of who gets to own Elle as if she's an object.
I really, really, really hate this movie
i dont think lee was creepy, i can see your view but, i feel like the main reason he wanted to keep her away from her brother was because of his brothers godaweful personality. he says stuff like "she doesnt know what shes gotten herself into" which i believe somewhat is code for noah mistreating women he gpes outwith (sorry for bad english)
It would have been better if his reason for not wanting elle woth noah was to protect her.
@@trvhal eh the line "you were the one thing I had that noah didnt" really kills that idea for me, that combined with other weirdly possessive stuff Lee does esp in the sequels suggests some serious jealousy from lees end, if he was really concerned about elles safety he wouldn't even have suggested that elle belonged to him or anything like that
My sister watched this movie, I think when she was 16 or 17 and she liked it... But she had shitty taste in men before that.
By part three I literally hated both the brothers
The worst part is, this isn't just one bad movie
*It's a TRIOLOGY of bad movies*
OOF
😭😭
Second is unforgivably bad, the other 2 are just bad.
@@SleepdeprivedkittyNO CAUSE WHAT WAS THE 2ND ONE!? i want to take back my 3+ hours i spent binge watching this
It's insane that a character who slams their fist on a car and screams "GET IN THE CAR ELLE" to a girl trying to walk away from a violent situation is treated as the love interest and not a violent psychopath. Man's got anger issues and is violent and it's treated as a plus.
That's woman for u
@@bobbythompson6017 ew no bad take
@@bobbythompson6017ok, you manlet
@@Chris-hall9080 lmao ditto
That car part makes me laugh so hard.
Lee was so desperate about them not dating and immediately thought Noah hit her. It seems Noah is incredibly abusive and Lee knows that. This movie Is fucked
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yeah i feel like Lee should be the main character here 💀
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The fact that Lee was 100% convinced that his goblin monster brother fully attacked Elle is deeply concerning. With how rich the Flynn family is, they seem like the kind of people that cover up their insane children that murder women and just pay off enough cops to keep everyone out of jail.
for real it seems to be that his concern is not 'don't date my brother ooh icky' it is 'this dude is physically dangerous and potentially abusive' like that's. that's a p real concern!!
Yeah that's exactly what I was thinking. I feel like that was the reason that he didn't want her to date his brother. It makes a lot of sense.
This out of context is even more concerning
Goblin? Wasnt that the guy who killed a man and impregnate the man's wife
I feel like if this is the case it would actually be a good movie
My personal theory is that while the main story was happening the dad found out the moms death was a murder so he has this gritty crime plot where he tries to find the culprit
that would be so cool
Imagine that the culprit was Noah
i wish that was the movie we got to watch instead of this dumpster fire
@@daveslamjam Same I would actually watch that
@@mikeyb9013Noah found out the mom was hitting on Elle
i love how lee's immediate reaction to the cut on her face was “NOAH DID YOU FUCKING DO THAT” like man KNOWS that he’s the type of person to do that
I haven’t finished the video in fact I’ve barely started, and just no, oh no. Idk if I want to finish this. 😂
Why is no one talking about the Abe Lincoln joke Danny made about how "he hasn't had good luck with booths in the past"? That joke was singlehandedly better than the entirety of the Kissing Booth trilogy.
Literally half the comments on the video:
His delivery of the joke was fantastic!
ahahaha for real!!! that joke killed me 😭😭
Ok Dont read my name!🙄......
Dude absolutely I laughed so hard, genius 😌
this is a horror movie. its a story about girl dating a possessive and violent guy despite obvious warning signs. the scene where noah yelled at her to get back in the car was TERRIFYING.
this movie was awful even if you ignored the toxicity of noah and elle’s relationship
*SUS* 💀💀💀🗿🗿🗿😳😳😳
@@mr.glitch5832 huh
I absolutely despise the "He's violent and angry and dangerous but not around me because he loves me and I can tame him" trope because it just fuels the fantasy instead of helping spot abusive traits in a person. This normalizes abusive relationships at an enormous capacity
@@kellygreen7236 YES AND THE WHOLE “i can change him🥺” STFU AND RUN BABES
I love how in almost every other movie, a man slamming his hand on the hood or roof of his car as he shouts at a woman to "GET IN THE CAR!" is universally recognized as a massive red flag. Meanwhile, this movie is like "Oooooh, he be so passionate! What a catch!
its based off a wattpad story written by a 15 year old. so yeah you're right on the nose
That genuinely scared the shit out of me
It genuinely made me flinch.
Lol came to reply that it made me flinch aswell😭
@@d.z5438I’m sickened 🤢
Another big issue is that, just from what I've seen here and Cinema Therapy, it's implied that Noah has likely hurt Lee in the past
Like, since they were kids, Lee was adamant about keeping Elle out of a relationship with him, probably because it would be weird, and because he's proven to be extremely violent and controlling for no reason.
He sees Elle injured and immediately assumes that he did it and manipulate her to lie for him
Like- doesn't it feel like that may have happened when they were kids? Noah hurt Lee and convinced him to lie to their parents about it. To everyone. And now Lee has to watch him date his best friend, anxious that it's gonna go bad
Didn’t think about Lee having to lie :(
Also I love cinema therapy so much
The scene where Noah slams his fist on the car and yells at Elle to get in always made me feel sick to my gut. And the fact that the movie just disregarded it and Elle got in the car anyway just to fuck him an hour later was so incredibly concerning to me. In a single scene, this film has taught young girls that if an angry guy who has just been in a physical altercation yells at you to get in his car, you just should, cuz he probably just wants to take you to a romantic secret place and have sex with you. It’s such a dangerous message and I was so disappointed that the opportunity to teach young people how to spot red flags was THERE and they chose to do the exact opposite. And combined with Noah’s behaviour throughout the rest of the movie and the general response to his character from fans, it paints a pretty scary fucking story
The movie's like, "Only PHYSICAL abuse exists, everything else is fiiiinnneeee" X_x
oh yeah no i literally jumped when he did that, i had a friend like that and y’all avoid ppl like noah at all costs
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@@dootdootperson4304 13:16
the way lee sees elle with a wound near noah and immediately assumes that noah did it to her too “she has no idea what shes getting into with you” this is a horror movie
Judging by how it only took an “I’m sorry” written on a piece of paper for Elle to forgive a guy for groping her and agree to a date with him, I think it’s fair to say her taste in guys isn’t very healthy
was looking for this. like, what?? he literally sexually assaulted her and she's like "ooh a bad boy..."
kinda hard to sympathize with a character that's so stupid
@@kittyratrawr Miss Ma'am needs an Alcoholic Anonymous for Bad decision making in guys
That's not all he did, Danny didn't include the whole thing. He dressed up in a skirt to embarass himself in front of the class to get Elle to forgive him.
It's still NOT a good message that Elle accepted a date from a guy who groped her, but it's more than an I'm Sorry note.
@@sighcantthinkofaname So he use a skirt as a "humiliation" thing as well, good i guess okay.
Fun fact: going near the Hollywood sign is extremely illegal , usually the closest you can ever get to it is if you're above it on the hill, you can absolutely be arrested for being infront of it, sometimes even police officers are there to guard the sign incase anyone tried to go up and vandalize lr loiter near the sign, so if this movie was realistic Elle and Noah would be arrested and the credits would play
I love how the fighting in this movie looks genuinely brutal but in real life if a school fight even happens in the first place it just looks like two people violently hugging each other while rolling around on the floor, maybe some biting, punching, smacking, etc but mostly hugging just angry while people watch.
this is so true.. every fight that happened in my high school looked exactly as you described it 😭
I know everyone's already said this, but seriously SUCH a red flag that Lee immediately thinks Noah hurt Elle, and he actually does push her out of the way pretty harshly while trying to get at Lee, and yk instead of having a conversation about the relationship Noah and Lee get into an actual fight. Noah is constantly acting extremely abusive and the movie just ignores that for the most part.
Right, they make it seem like we're supposed to believe he would hurt anyone but her, "oh look he's so protective!" When in reality, a man with a violent streak like Noah's isn't going to be like "oh but this person is off limits." He clearly has serious anger management issues, and a relationship won't just make that go away. Lee didn't just not want El dating his brother because it'd be weird, he didn't want her dating someone so violent and toxic.
It's kind of irritating that they try to portray Lee as a "antagonist" for the whole movie who is trying to separate two "lovers"
and ofc the "GET IN THE CAR" scene...
@@aceofjacks7071 THAT exact scene did NOT sit well with me at ALL 😭😭
And everyone is acting like “that’s just Noah” like wtf. He literally scared Elle when he was yelling at her to go with him
Since everyone else is already talking about the red flags, I’ll just take a moment to appreciate the hilarity of the Abraham Lincoln and Booth joke
Finally someone who appreciates it 😂
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@@MortusSweet 9:42 to 9:50
Came to comment this 😭
It was SO GOOD
This movie reads like a story about a touch-starved teenage girl who doesn’t have a positive female figure in her life to help her understand how to live life as a woman, and a pair of abusive codependent brothers who can’t adjust to life outside of their home because their absent parents essentially forced them to care for and punish eachother to compensate for the lack of ANY adult role models in their lives.
Noah is an abuser, but he’s also a victim.
Lee is a victim, but he’s also an abuser.
Elle is just a victim who’s being forced to *believe* she’s an abuser.
i keep getting hung up on the "grinding coochies" thing. Did no one in the entire production of this know what coochie means.
noah trans coded fr 😭
It's extremely toxic how controlling this supposed "friendship" is and how violent Noah is yet we're supposed to treat it as endearing
Not a single person in these movies are good people
Right! Like when he slammed his fist on the car hood, that scared me. Idk how she fell for it 😭
Yeah, it’s basically a tween Wattpad fantasy which is fine if it stays a fantasy, but it’s really disturbing when it’s presented like a cute love story
@@neflufv6392 the movie was actually based off a wattpad story 😭
@@whothehckisbucky859 what is it with wattpad stories glorifying toxic relationships!? I honestly don't get it!
the most concerning part about the kissing booth is that it was based on a wattpad novel most likely written by a 14 year old girl that believed that all these abusive and violent behaviours were something u were supposed to be attracted to/long for, and the novel got so popular in the site that it was picked up by netflix which is even sadder
IT WAS?
It did have Wattpad written all over it
More likely it was written by a teenager who knew how Wattpad stories usually go and just wrote the popular tropes
Curious if she got paid for the story becoming a film
I remember reading this!!!
Fun fact about the little sister thing, friends you grow up with often have the same connection in your brain as siblings so the fact that he acts like she is a little sister and still wants to get with her in the end means Noah got even more issues than the obvious ones
omg i didn't even think about that
If that nonsense is true then why do so many people fall in love with their best friends? Even ones from childhood? It happens all the time. You don't always see friends as siblings and even if you do that can still change and there's nothing wrong with that.
@@truthseeker9249 they said often, and you missed the part where noah literally compared elle to a little sister
@@sn0wcake but clearly he didn't actually mean that. He saw her as a woman he was romantically interested in. Him saying that was just yet another way to cover up his true feelings. Anyone with a brain knows that most men do that.
Maturing is realizing why lee really made rule number 9- to keep Elle away from Noah because he’s scared me might hurt her (mentally and/or physically) not because he doesn’t like the thought of his brother dating his best friend. I’ve seen lots of stories a lot like this in other comments but I was watching the movie with my 11 year old sister and she wouldn’t stop talking about how much she likes Flynn and how he’s “exactly her type”.
This movie would've been better if it had turned out that Lee explicitly wanted to keep El from his brother because his brother is an abusive maniac and he was just worried about her, and maybe they could tie in her mom dying to her being reckless and impulsive so at first she's into how *wild* Noah is, and after she's convinced he's bad for her, she throws herself at Lee, but Lee doesn't like her that way and only sees her as a friend, and the movie ends with El going to therapy and Noah, I don't know, dying or going to jail.
We should put you in charge of writing movies
I love how when it comes to what happens to Noah at the end, the only character development he deserves is death or imprisonment.
Definitely better but I'm not sure about Elle throwing herself at Lee and going to therapy. I think that would make her character quite empty and promote the idea that there's something wrong with someone mentally if they end up in an abusive relationship. That is sometimes true but also it comes down to the manipulation of an abuser. Perhaps the film could have took a dark turn and depict domestic abuse quite graphically but accurately. I'm not certain what would be best in terms of Lee's role but I agree Noah facing the consequences of his actions and Elle learning would be a much better outcome. Dying seems to say that death is an appropriate form of justice rather than reformation or that death from a perpetrator can help a victim move on, which I don't think is a helpful or productive message but prison seems fitting.
I suppose the issue is that it's a difficult story to write and unless it is genuinely well done, it wont sell. To accurately but also sensitively depict real world crimes is a very fine line and requires not just excellent writers but also very good actors. No matter how crap this is, I imagine it would do well enough to make some money from an American audience.
@@jaymercer4692 I didn't think Elle would be in therapy because she got into an abusive relationship but because she needed to heal from it
@@maks7355 Perhaps. Something about selling therapy as a solution feels off to me but I might be wrong. Therapy does help a lot of people so I’m not sure.
The fact the movie even thought about pursuing the literal abuser who sexually assaulted her as the love interest is so fucked up
exactly when I first watched this movie on my own that was super creepy to me why did they make her forgive him so soon as well?? A dumb apology on a piece of paper for sexual assault and she was expected to forgive???😭
@@arielmonet7359 lined paper not even following the lines and not to mention 2 fucking words 😬😬
The wattpad was written by 15 years old soo😭😭 I don think I'll be surprised but wtf
thanku omg!
14:57 i know danny’s just joking, but this is a common thing abusive people do. they’ll hurt you and then “take care of you” to make you think they still love you
Making Noah a violent psychopath the main Love interest was such a bad idea. It's far from a Healthy relationship, but they potray it as "He just loves you too much"
That's basically textbook emotional abuse, the only thing missing was him ACTUALLY hitting her.
It’s so gross how the movie breezes by how elle tried to go out with a guy who literally just assaulted her
It really makes it seem like she just has a thing for abusers, as horrible as that thought is
But the note was so high effort!! "I'm sorry" is such a beautiful and expressive apology.
The third sequel is even worse...
Reminds me of 50 Shades of Grey.
@@_meriessa that movie made me lol it was so bad
Noah: manipulative, bully, asshole, restricting, anger issues, easily violent
Elle: yeah i’ll choose him
He’s tall tho!
Wattpad love story 😍😍
"But he's tall and brooding and rides a motorcycle!"
Hey, don't judge! Her mom died!
Why's everyone saying I sound like BlackPink 👀
The dad has to dress like that to keep Lee away. Rule number #9 was written by Elle for Lee.
Also I think the comment section has covered how horribly abusive this whole thing is, but there’s not enough coverage of WHAT KIND OF RUNNING IS THAT ELLE
it looks like overdramatic satire of how "girls run"
the most unbelievable part of this movie is the fact the school allowed a kissing booth.
This movie could have actually been good if it did a 180 and became a psychological horror about abusive relationships
Yeah, if in the end Elle either got killed or badly abused by Noah and Lee was sad because he saw it coming and tried to warn her. The movie could've actually had a valuable life lesson: look for red flags.
Ooh kind of like Heathers in a way. Where the sexy bad boy is actually just an abusive creep
Budget Killing Stalking
@@durratulaishah3703 omg!
They made this movie ages ago with Mark Wahlberg and Reese Witherspoon, I think.
This movie is the entire embodiment of a cliche. The only part missing is the best friend falling in love with her.
Ok Dont read my name!🙄......
Literally, the fact that they aren't in a love triangle is actually surprising
i was actually waiting for Lee to admit he has feelings for her
Considering this is basically a Wattpad story, I’m very surprised as well
If I remember the sequel correctly, they ended up doing exactly that.
I get the "I see you as a little sister thing" and having them kiss later was supposed to be a 'showing not telling' thing where he SAYS how he feels but actually reveals his true feelings later, but I'll be damed if it isn't gross as hell.
He could have said: "You're my little brother's best friend, I kind of feel this obligation to protect you." Which would display the fact that he apparently doesn't view their relationship as close and only by association with his brother and they could do the whole showing not telling thing later as they kiss, WITHOUT that weird little sister stuff
I watched this when it came out (I was like 13) and at age 17 seeing this again I notice the huge red flags Noah gives off from how violent he is to the point where lee felt the needed to create a rule not to date his brother. They tried so hard to make lee the bad guy because he didn’t approve of her relationship with Noah, he’s a good bestfriend trying his hardest to protect his best friends safety from his violent and abusive older brother, and the fact the lee immediately assumed the cut Elle got was from Noah should’ve been a huge red flag to Elle regarding Noah. It’s also disgusting Elle is like 16 and Noah is 18-19 and they had sex
No matter between 16 and 18 yo
@@MatheusRodrigues-ok4df ?? What do you mean?
@@angelichobi__18 they were trying to say a 16 and 18 year old having sex isn't a big deal, and yeah it's not. If she were like 14 that would be fucked, but they're essentially the same age.
@@Sam-ue4uj at 18 in America you’re considered a legal adult, anyone under the age of 18 is considered a child still and a minor, even if it’s 2 years apart a legal adult having sex with a legal minor is fucked up no matter the age gap
@@angelichobi__18 that's what Romeo and Juliet laws (I believe that's what they're called? Maybe it's jack and jill laws? ) are for. They basically make it so you won't be charged for statutory rape if you're like 18 and 17 or something like that. Since they'd be so close in age it would be a bit ridiculous. If they're older than that then it's an obvious issue tho, I'm certainly not trying to condone pedophilia
Noah slamming his hand on the hood of that car is genuinely terrifying like girl GET OUT OF THERE
It so is!! It’s dark, she’s mostly alone, she’s already been harassed and now this guy who’s already known to be aggressive is following her. I think I’d shit myself. It’s not fucking romantic, its abusive and manipulative.
Truely!! It’s so too much and I hate that she got in the car.
i know, that's so terrifying especially considering the type of man noah is. honestly the only realistic reason i can see anyone in this situation actually getting in the car is fearing their own safety if they didn't. which is completely disregarding that he also could have been telling her to get in the car to beat the shit out of her, or something even worse. honestly this entire movie was a mistake and i'm sick of producers using movies to essentially promote abuse towards children and teens.
That's the exact point when I went from "this movie is dumb haha" to "NOPE"
@@cl0wn.k0dx that is panic attack material right there oh god. I cry if people raise their voice at me and seem upset, if that happened I would probably shut down
If I had a nickel for every time Jacob Elordi played the role of the psychotic, violent, and abusive boyfriend of one of the main characters in a show or movie, I’d have two nickels, which isn’t a lot but it’s weird that it’s happened twice
He plays that kind of character too well
this is the best comment, also now let's add his little weird interview .. it seems he's not playing a character
It tends to be easier to get cast in a similar role as one you’ve already played before, character-wise
Hope he doesn't live in his car anymore tho
What was the other role?
as someone that was in an abusive relationship, it's gross how much they romanticize Noah's anger. plus how they breeze by the guy who LITERALLY groped elle
I know it's been said, but jesus Noah is the biggest red flag I've ever seen. He isolates Elle from other romantic options, orders her around, shouts at her, calls her "kiddo", says that she's like a little sister and his own brother immediately thinks that he hurt Elle. Clearly if his own brother doesn't trust him, why should the audience, why should Elle??? It's wild that this script was read my multiple people who all thought it was fine to show an abuser as a "hot dreamy man who just loves you"
You know within the movie is a kind of compelling story bout this kid, Lee, whose watched his brother grow up with a very violent temper and manipulative tendencies using this list of rules he and his best friend came up with as a joke when they were ten to keep her away from Noah because Lee has no idea how to even explain the extant of his brother's absue/toxic behavior. Not only because he's afraid of loosing his friend but for her physical safety. Basically this movie should have been a psychological horror.
I need this version as a spin off
That couldve been a sick movie I feel cheated now
I agree completely, I found the scene at 16:23 really interesting, Lee really seemed like he's seen Noah do some really fucked up shit behind the closed doors and is desperately trying to protect his friend from his own abuser. It would be a really interesting story.
Honestly that would work, because it would seem that Noah has intimidated him into keeping quiet about what he’s done
Me literally writing a story like that, glad to see people think it’s interesting:
this movie is literally the definition of one of those iconic wattpad y/n fanfictions. you've got the 4'2" brown hair, blue eyes, messy bun, "guys don't fight this isn't you!" main character and her 8'7" bad boy/delinquent, older than her, drives a motorcycle, probably should go to therapy for anger issues, harry styles-esque love interest. it could not get more cliche
it literally is a wattpad fanfic 😭😭
how is “8’7” bad boy/delinquent, drives a motorcycle, therapy for anger issues” similar to Harry Styles?? HAHA
@@probablynot2123 because that’s how people used to write Harry Styles in wattpad fics lmao
For real, I hate how infantilized she was. She looked like she was 10 years old compared to all the guys in the movie, it was super gross
the movie was created from a wattpad story
14:07 it actually is prívate because it's elegal to be there
@@SSukram_ 😂😂 right? Like, yeah no one is gonna see us sneak into this touristic destination at it's buisiest hour
My old really toxic friends used to love this movie. We watched it one night while I was at a sleepover with them, and most of them loved it except for one or two who recognized it was a dangerous movie-. I actually slept through most of it and no one knew, but I do remember the very beginning and the end. Never thought I'd see it again, didn't even know the name of it at the time-
I love the idea that a school would allow a student to run a kissung booth. Like, no, they wouldn't allow that.
As an ex-teacher, can confirm that there is no way this would ever fly, especially in a fancy-arse school like theirs! Also, their ties are way too loose for private school 😜
@@stephspoilsstuff Fr, I go to a dutty ass public school in Australia and even THEY wouldn’t allow this shit
@@salem-01 cool, I'm an Aussie as well, though my experience is mostly private schools 😁 there is no he king way students would be allowed to even get that close to each other!
In my school they didn't even let us kiss in our play.
In a scene that was about a girl's first kiss.
@@lelegus7732 no fraternising! 😜
I never realized how controlling and horrible Noah was. He yelled at Elle to get in the car, If I was her I would have been terrified.
I watched the movie like two years ago and I also forgot how scary Noah is. But I do remember him slamming his hand in the car and me saying “what the fuck?!”
She literally jumps when he does it too. I know the controlling aggressive dude is already a popular trope, but that just felt like such cut and dry abuse, idk how the writers couldn't notice that
i would have RAN FOR MY LIFE
@Turd Ferguson so hot😮💨 he gives me butterflies🫶🏼 every time he slams stuff i feel my heart in my stomach💅🏼❤️
@@tessabarrett1933 ok
"He has not had good luck with booths in the past."
Gold.
This movie makes me think of when people tell you “if he is mean to you, or hits you, he likes you”
"Locked another girl in your fuck shed" has me in fucking shambles what an awful string of words. Thanks Danny
This is why we love him lol (no homo)
@@Jesusbloodissufficient9434 Its hilarious how you had to ad “no homo” 💀
2022 smh 💀
when you really dissect the kissing booth its a very terrifying movie about toxic masculinity lol
I think it’s just…a bad movie
honestly I would have preferred the annoying trope where she ends up with her best friend because at least he wasn't constantly violent and didnt threaten to break anyones nose if they went on a date with her
honestly when I first watched it I was waiting for the cliché twist where she ends up with Lee instead lol
@@BenDover-uc3vn me too and was actually surprised they didn’t go through with it
@@BenDover-uc3vn according to some comments I think in the original wattpad book Lee IS in love with her but they cut it out in the movie
There’s a love interest in the second one called Marco who’s actually the best choice in every way and she still chooses Noah:/ (I watched the Elvis the Alien video on the movies)
@@salem-01 oh
I'll say this: Elle's reaction to the security guy catching them sounded real genuine, props to the actress XD
I agree. Joey king is honestly such a good actress but these movies didn’t show her full ability.
@@muffinator1239is that her real name? It cant be real, right?
@@SpoogieDerpington I have no idea lol. I think it is.
@@SpoogieDerpington her real name is joey king yeah.
@@SpoogieDerpingtonthey must be Joe - king
I really hate Elle's character. She broke their rules (It's not wrong to have rules in friendship, it's totally normal), she lied to her BFF. And when Lee gets mad at her for that she's like THAT'S NOT FAIR. I didn't like her in the first two movies. And in the 3rd movie I so hate her. She chose Noah and Harvard instead of Lee and Berkley when she promised she'll go to the same school as her bestie. I hate Elle.
This is the only movie where the "she falls for her best friend who was the right choice all along" cliche would've been better. Like at least it's not his abusive brother so sure
i thought that's where this movie was going but nope
That’s what I thought it really would’ve been better
Childhood best friend to lovers are good in certain scenarios. This would be one of them
Yeah honestly I can't even really blame him for the 'dont fuck my brother' thing when Noah is obviously terrible to everyone around him including Lee.
Like tbh if my bestie started dating my sibling who is constantly a jerk to me I'd be pretty pissed too 💀
when Netflix does that we get tall girl and none of us want that
Fun fact: the kissing booth was actually a wattpad story made by a 15 year old. Netflix thought it was going to be the next big thing so they used it as a loose script for the movie
Ok Dont read my name!🙄......Ok Dont read my name!🙄......
is this real
No way
@@dan-ch8kr yeah wattpad promoted it on their website for a while if i recall correctly idk if they still do i haven't touched that site in years (the site feels like a big public playground that's flooded with 3 year olds)
Yep, you can buy the books too. I saw them in a Target.
Bro imagine if there was a Black Mirror episode about how movies like this one romanticise abusive relationships.
I've been struggling with depression lately, and OH MY GOD i found your channel today and i don't think I've genuinely laughed this much in years!!! you literally made my day!❤️❤️
100% agree with Danny's assessment. Noah's character was completely off the rails, violent, and controlling --- qualities that are not okay in any relationship.
just like jacob's character in euphoria
I thought Noah was the character, or is he played by a dude named Noah?
@@user-ux1vj9vx7s the characters name is noah, it’s just the wording
Ok Dont read my name!🙄......
Physical embodiment of a train wreck
Gazebos and psychological horror are the staples of any good romance movie
I’m not going to watch another psychological horror movie unless it has a gazebo.
I haven’t seen the video yet but I am currently HOWLING at this comment 💀🤚
@@Bumblebread did you….watch the video?
Help 💀
And don't forget brothers 👉👉
elordi got so lucky with the framing of euphoria because him getting framed as a romantic guy doesn't fit in the slightest, but Nate Jacob's is basically the same character but Seen in a different way and It works way better
Noah is the definition of abuse, manipulation, and a legit stalker. Not to mention a complete f-boy.
Honestly, I would rather have Lee (or any other guy) be Elle’s love interest than Noah.
The joke about Abraham Lincoln and his bad luck with “booths” was a FIRE joke Danny 👏🏼👏🏼
OH I heard boots and was so confused 💀
Literally was about to comment that haha so clever
Can someone explain the joke plis? 🙈
^
@@maurice8180 Lincoln was assassinated by a man called John Wilkes Booth
Love that Elle’s two romantic interests in this movie are
A. The guy who sexually assaulted her on the first day of school and then victim-blamed her or
B. The guy with crazy anger issues, manipulative tendencies and a controlling nature
Wow! Tons of dreamy guys at her school! 😍
@@newjeansslayy Get help
@@newjeansslayy not rlly funny but alr
@@shiningdiamond28 how are you getting offended by this what
@@newjeansslayy Not everyone likes the joke. Sorry just try better with the jokes. No need to get mad that people didn't like your joke.
@@newjeansslayy because its not a funny joke, and trying to defend your joke after people call it out for being weird? idk, maybe dont make jokes ab stuff like this?
As soon as Danny was talking about how Elle was feeling, I got a Frebreze ad so I just heard-
“She just feels like- FREBREZE”
Elle: As I ran home
Also Elle: *jogging*
The brother immediately asking "did you do that to her" when he saw Elle's wound should be the biggest red flag ever, but this movie just subscribes to the the-badder-the-boy-the-better narrative so much and I'm so sick of it
Anyway, I appreciate you so much Danny, thank you for this video
Ok Dont read my name!🙄......
THIS!! Like i feel like even Danny overlooked it dude, Noah seems to be mentally ill or just abusive in general, why is no one talking about the fact that his own brother focused more on him than her? He was prob just trying to make sure she was safe
Yeah. If the first thing your family ask when seeing someone theyre close to is injured is "did you do that? " means they just know how prone to violence they are.. Mega red flags
It kinda makes his "dont date my brother" rule seem way more reasonable if his brother is just this super violent asshole tbh
Yeah, like while the friend is kind of crappy...it's easy to interpret as his brother being SUPER dangerous and that's why he tried that rule.
Another thing that really bothers me about this movie is that Noah is super controlling over Elle dating other men and tells them not to date her, but he’s seen kissing other girls at their school. I really hate the trope of the possessive bad boy with anger issues who attacks any guy within a six mile radius of the main character because he’s “secretly in love” with her but he’s somehow entitled to hook up with other women. It’s so stupid and a huuuuge red flag.
I feel like this trope has been SO common in teen content over the last 20 years. Always the “damaged,” “bad” boy 🙄
THIS
@@LuvFearlessly Makes Heather's a breath of fresh air, and that story is from the damn 80's. The violent, dangerous bad boy loner turns out to be *gasp* a violent and dangerous romantic partner!
I watched this movie when it first came out. I was still young then and I'm ashamed to say that I liked it and was obsessed with it for so long. How could I have been so blind? I even liked the 2nd movie when it came out. Mostly because of Marco but I now hate him too. Anyway by the time I became an adult, I had watched a whole bunch of reactions on CZcams just like this one completely slandering this movie and that's how I came to finally understand. This movie is terrible and sends so many bad messages to young girls. Messages that I took to heart, still being the young girl that I was and I ran with them. I had already experienced abusive relationships before I saw this movie but this movie didn't exactly help me with learning my lesson about trusting and dating the wrong men. I think it made it worse. Cause again this movie reinforced in my little mind that this stuff was normal. By the time the 3rd one came out not too long ago I was an adult and had finally learned my lesson. My boyfriend is not into romance movies like I am so he never saw any of the Kissing Booths. He never even heard of them despite having Netflix until I told him. I didn't give him any details and watched the first one with him to make him see. Immediately he thought the same as everyone else. Cringey, cliche and bad messages for young girls about relationships AND friendships. Then I made him suffer through the 2nd one with me that was a sh*tshow. Rachel was the best part of it even though she was stupid for being with someone like Lee. Then we both suffered through the 3rd one together when it first came out and we did it out of sheer curiosity. "How could they possibly make this story any worse?" Uggggggggggggh. Honestly he and I are kind of on the fence about whether or not we should let our children watch these movies, especially our daughters. I definitely intend to warn my children about this movie and tell them to not think that any of what is going on in the movie is a good thing. Hopefully they listen to me. And honestly hopefully we can all watch together so we can talk afterwards.
@@truthseeker9249 hey it’s ok if you used to like it! you were young and it shows growth in your mindset now that you see what is harmful about it :)
Lee was DEFINITELY trying to protect her with rule 9 😭
17:42 Looks like Cole from ninja go
Rlly love how Elle easily forgives the guy that groped her and literally goes on a date with him 😍🚩
exactly like wtf
Easy with the judging her mom died
@@tialessore lmao
Don't judge her, her mother died 😔
@@Idk-oe9tc so tragic 😢😢😭😭
It's horrible too how Noah's anger is treated as completely normal and romantic. The fact that Lee saw a cut on her face, IMMEDIATELY assumed Noah had done it, and that was a COMPLETELY BELIEVABLE assumption from what we'd seen of Noah implies that maybe he wanted to keep her away from Noah because he genuinely believed Noah could/would be physically violent towards his partner. I know these movies don't go deep, but it just feels so irresponsible to release this to teens as a romance when it reads more like a slow burn horror movie with Elle as a future victim.
this !!!
I remember my (much younger) cousin made me watch this with her and she wouldn't stop rambling about how dreamy Noah is and how he was her ideal man... It clearly wasn't just about looks either so I got worried, I tried to explain to her the clear red flags she shouldn't ignore in real life but man, it kind of scared me ngl. Writers should be A LOT more careful with violent characters in movies made for kids and teens. Not saying there shouldn't be any violence, but we should be aware of the way they're presented / viewed / how they're redeemed etc.
Now that we look at it that way the rule 9 does makes sense now
THANK YOU!! As a victim of DV I was literally watching this thinking "If someone told me he'd been violent to his partner before, I'd believe that"
Yet it's so fucking romanticized in this movie to be this "he's just a bad boy who needs someone to help him".
honestly that would be such a better movie Lee trying to protect his firend from abuse he's suffered through for years and Elle falling for him due to media as terrible as this being what raised her
though I'm looking far too into it
That scene should have been a moment where the story turned real and we addressed the fact that Noah is a toxic horrible person and El does have a reason to be afraid of him but then it just…didn’t go anywhere. SO CLOSE to self awareness from the movie
Dude the guy who plays Noah is literally just playing the same character as Nate in euphoria even both have N names, that’s insane 😭
it could come out that Nate and Noah were the same character and no one would be surprised lol
I’ve seen the kissing booth before multiple times, back when I was a lot younger, and it didn’t occur to me how toxic El and Noah’s relationship was. I’m glad I was exposed to more healthy relationships later on because I feel like this movie could’ve badly effected how I saw relationships. Anyways I hate Noah that man is WEIRD and lee isn’t much better in my eyes because he’s so so controlling of his friend. Sad that it got TWO WHOLE SEQUELS
the “he has not had good luck with booths in the past” joke made me spit out my drink. peak danny comedy
It was jaw dropping
Poor Mr. Lincoln 😔
I immediately jumped to the comment section expecting this to be like the first comment 😂
I literally spit out my water when he said that
I was like "ooh, too soon."
being able to constantly pump out awful movies is a talent that mainly only netflix possesses
Ok Dont read my name!🙄...
@@GriffinZambia ok dw man 🤝
only netflix? lifetime would like to disagree
You forgot Christian Netflix exists
*Pureflix
The least surprising thing in this movie is that a bunch of rich people are controlling
I remember at a sleepover in middle school this was playing in the background. I remember being the only one to notice how bizarre it was. Feels good to finally be validated
elle "running" home was so fucking funny i lost my shit. like i can understand walking home but wtf was that run
Running in Jean shorts no less
It was such a low effort jog too 😂
And in the middle of the night
She ran in lowercase
gave so many wattpad vibes 💀
I ALREADY hated this movie but didn't even REALIZE that Noah called Elle his little sister omg Danny thank you for slamming this movie it deserves it
first
@@blazingarrow2765 dude it’s a random comment lol
@@iwantmynametobeaslongaspos7194 cranky because you weren't first, aren't you (half-joking)
@@jamdoe6486 how’d you know 😡
4th
I feel like the context of this originally being a Wattpad story makes the weird shit (like romanticizing abuse) make a lot of sense, Wattpad writers aren’t great
wattpad writers are tweens
even though im a wattpad, this movie is still bad.
This could have easily been a better stalker obsession horror movie than a romcom 😅
I ship Elle with therapy.
Seriously though - the guys she attaches herself to are walking red flags.
This comment made me chuckle as much as Danny did. Bravo.
lee ain’t do nothing wrong he tried to help her
dude chill with the JUDGEMENT .. her MOM DIED okay???
@@clxmentin3 yeah god people are so insensitive these days 🙄
@@showtime1235 He did, the rule about dating is ok due to the circumstances, but he has other rules that he uses to gaslight Elle in other movies. Like that one rule about studying in the same university, when Elle didn't follow it, he trew a tantrum and tried to make her feel guilty.
Even with the rule about Noah, if he was really that worried about her safety, he wouldn't act like a crybaby and make her feel guilty, but rather talk with her or something.
netflix releasing the most insane, worst, crazy, psychological warfare movies and somehow getting everyone talking and obsessing with it for months is an ultimate power move.
one wonders if they're doing it on purpose
They did it again with Purple Hearts😭😭😭
I don't know how I managed to sit through this movie when 5 second clips of it are making me cringe so hard I'm watching this video tabbed out.
we are living in black mirror
I’m convinced this movie is just the backstory to Nate from Euphoria
Interestingly, I feel as though I've read three hundred Wattpad stories (when I was like 11-13) about this exact trope. I never realized how toxic it was. I understand where Lee's 9th rule came from, he doesn't want his brother and best friend to get together, potentially break up and make things awkward. Noah is compulsive and very aggressive, I can't help but feel as though he and Lee need some family therapy. Lee clearly doesn't trust his brother, and I can understand why he wouldn't.
I don't trust him either lol. Elle was pretty awful in this movie, and she didn't take into account what her actions would actually do--like building a wedge between two brothers.
Fun fact this was based on a wattpad story
why does Jacob Elordi always live in giant houses lmao
Because he’s so freaking tall he needs a giant house to accommodate him?
The fact that Lee IMMEDIATELY thought Noah hit Elle was a red flag that I thought she might’ve noticed, considering Noah is violent and scared Elle into coming back to him/stop walking away(slamming his fist on the car hood scene). And her dad not caring that his daughter was dating a much-larger violent dude was a wtf moment for me. Like, you don’t care that she could get her ass beat if they have an argument?? He’s the poster boy of abusive boyfriend.
you’re so right! what gets me is jacob elodie also plays nate jacobs another abusive asshole, i feel as though he’s been type casted as violent abusive boyfriend #1 in all of these media for teenagers. it’s so weird how this is portrayed as love, having your boyfriend verbally intimidate you/ hurt objects around you to intimidate you isn’t romantic. and this narrative thats being pushed is insane.
I have an explnation for all of this in two words: bad writting.
I never watched the movie. Did her dad know?
@@dollie1537 I feel kind of bad for him with this one because it sounds like hes not actually *like* that
Eh, I don't care what y'all think, I think it was romantic, he wasn't abusive to her, and him fighting the others was him being a protective boyfriend
So many romance movies glorify and romanticise abuse, but this one stands out to me. You can see how violent Noah is super early on and they just excuse it. Lee automatically assuming that he's abusing Elle is treated like it's ridiculous, but just based on his behavior, it's super valid. Noah is an obvious abuser and yet she gets with him anyway and that's supposed to be a happy ending? Wtf.
@Wynn You dont need to consor abuser. it doesnt matter.
@Wynn At least they don’t really glamorize the abuse in Euphoria.
its honestly a little concerning that lee autimatically assumes that noah hit elle. it just shows how violent noah can get
Maybe that’s why he didn’t want el to date Noah because he didn’t want her getting hurt, which would’ve made more sense
@@corkythehippoman its becuase a lot of social media apps tend to delete comments that contain words like 'porn', 'abuser', 'suicide' etc
If someone acted like Noah did toward Elle, I’m filing a fucking restraining order dude
this whole video had me dying. your interpretation is so well done for real. And now i’m scared at the premise of this movie.
Fun fact: the author was 15 when she first published the book, “the kissing booth” to Wattpad. I don’t know if anyone is surprised
Holy shit it all makes sense now
Damn, that makes SO much sense now. 🤣
Shame we can't use that as an excuse for Stephanie Meyers and twilight.
(I actually like the movies mostly lol but some of the guys are toxic...*cough*)
ofc its a wattpad story omg
@@HelloyouTheSmiley I’m just surprised Elle wasn’t sold to pay for her father’s gambling debts
elle choosing to go on a date with a man who made her humiliated and uncomfortable by sexually assaulting her in public is by far one of my least favorite parts of this movie. he literally had no redeemable qualities and it’s so unrealistic
It’s realistic. We need to help women and girls empower themselves to stop falling for this crap
We’re literally told as kids ‘oh he’s only hitting you and saying those things because he has a crush on you!’. It’s unfortunately pretty realistic :(
Happened to me. I'm sorry but teens and young adults who need for any form of "love" can be pretty stupid like that
Elle is a beggar, or at least feels like one, and beggars can’t be choosers
It could be explained as her being misguided or manipulated. I can understand that. But Lee encouraging her to go on said date?! I thought he was her best friend?
6:06 - Dance Dance Revolution is the best.
0:20 Wait, that's the sound effect that plays when you headshot a Grunt with the Grunt Birthday Party skull enabled in Halo!
Any man who calls his partner kid, is a red flag immediately
i agree (😔)
literally 💀 plus how are you gonna say “you’re like my little sister ☺️” then start dating them 🤢
Once knew a girl who for years said I was like a brother... then she started trying to send me nudes, kinda ruined things💀
i find it pretty infantilizing and/or patronizing honestly
Remembering Johnny depp calling amber kid
Dude, the trope of violent guy and the girl who calms him down was always kinda off with me. It seems to romanise abusive relationships. Like, in regular abusive relationships, victims don’t think of themselves as victims, but as good people helping out a troubled individual aka their abuser. They think themselves as the only ones who can help their abuser and become trapped in their relationship. The victim can’t leave easily because the abuser would threaten their own life or the lives of others if the victim leaves.
The victim thinks they still have power because they can calm the abuser down, but really they’re just following the cycle of abuse.
Get abused -> Get apology -> Forgive them -> repeat
The trope kinda romanize this concept, but ignoring the abuse part.
Fr
1000th like haha
I think it’s more about guys being aggressive around everyone but her like she’s the one he’s really gentle with, but in this case I totally agree
These types of movies are why we have those "i can fix him" girls..
Romanticize* but yes absolutely, 100% agree
Honestly, I always just viewed this movie as a cautionary tale about red flags told from the lens of a teenager who isn't able to see those red flags. Makes it a pretty enjoyable watch if I consider Elle's narration and the movie itself like... Her first time in therapy, putting on a cheery voice as she tries to explain that it was all so normal at first and she's really not all that bothered and doesn't understand why everyone's made such a big deal about it.
Because this would be how teens view toxic relationships. "Oh but the sparks flew! The honeymoon stage was so perfect! It was so exciting sneaking around! He's a really good kisser!" They don't see the reality of the situation beyond what is in the moment. They don't have fully developed frontal lobes. They can't be expected to make rational decisions.
Like, the movie is shot fairly well.
And a more happy lens to view it, instead of Elle's first therapy session alone, it's the first session of couple's counseling after Noah agrees to get help for his anger issues.
The fact that she got in after he slammed the car is insane like I legit would’ve started running