Some of those ace pilot dps are carried by the bombarding dps, also they make max level fly faster for a reason; so ace pilot doesnt constantly attacking
Ace pilot having more dps than a G-minigunner is cool and all, IF ONLY IT WASN'T ONLY FOR 2-3 SECONDS EACH LAP. So, yeah, the rework is cool, but it is not more viable than pursuit or Gmini, purely because of how it works as a tower.
Why do you expect tds players to have knowledge. Ace pilot rework just buffed it by 40 dps. It just made it better for mid game. Rocketeer and gmini and still better
Pursuit actually having better targeting than ace pilot, because it stops when sees the enemy, and if its out of range, its searches for it, not like ace pilot.
Yeah they definitely need to either bump this towers price up or just bump it to the highest level you can without making it a hardcore Tower. But the issues still stands it's targeting is ass
ik this update make ace better but seriously it only have good crowd control and hidden detect and that it (the other use I found for it is just giving hidden detect for other and that it but this update dont make ace better than other late game towers tho)
oh and uh..I did use the ace for early and mid game and I manage to get max farm and start focusing on ranger really soon so the ace is still a very solid early and mid game 👍)
Engineer: Finally, a worthy opponent, our battle will be legendary! Didn't expected, that ace pilot have lower DPS that pursuit (difference on 1 DPS lol), but anyway 8 aces cheaper that 10 pursuits.
we definitely did not need a rework/buff for ace pilot we need that for cards like paintballer, hunter, demoman, and rocketeer definitely is trash rn even tho it got buffed a while back
@@monke_420ace pilot sucks at bosses why are you all complaining, it's a good side DPS tower but not a good main dps tower you can barely beat molten titan with 8 maxxed out ace pilots it's good against crowds but not against high health bosses, accel accells(pun intended) against high HP bosses, engineer is a good all arounder for crowds and single target damage against bosses, Merc base is an amazing support tower with its damage buff and spawnable units, and necromancer can be extremely useful when fully maxxed out (lvls 1-3 sucks) the summons could provide good DPS also the fact that the graves expload when activated Tldr ace pilots DPS is extremely unreliable but he makes a good side DPS tower and a good support tower
@@gachafrieslol2254 that's why I put in the tldr some people can't read nowadays did you even read what I said? ace pilot is a good SIDE DPS tower not a MAIN DPS tower it's a support dps hybrid Also when the hell did I say ace was mid it's a good tower and the rework just makes it even better with the permanent stealth detection buff and amazing dps however this dps is extremely unreliable since it's not attacking most of the time which basically cuts the DPS in half it's still extremely good against high HP enemies but not high HP bosses like molten or fallen king Tldr since you apparently can't comprehend long comments: ace is a Good support dps hybrid
Ace pilot maybe have good dps but bc ace pilot is a flying tower it doest give constant damage so meaning fast enemy like tank or shadow boss Could go threw ace pilot range fairly quickly g mini have a constant damage even if there’s an accel g mini maybe could beat accel sometimes in dps with no placement limit and constant damage so practically g mini is better but not always ace pilot is maybe early-mid while g mini is mid-late game For short: its me ranting about g mini is better bc I grind months for that and the dev keep making new towers better and bc constant dps and no placement limit is the thing that ace pilot doesn’t have boo hoo Sorry if my english is bad I aint readin all that💀
first of all dont forget ace pilot has very bad range and it has the 2nd worse targetting (do i need to tell that pursuit has the worst?) and also you gave some towers lower dps minigunner has 100 warden idk and pursuit has much better range and it has bomb dropping the deals splash damage which makes it much better for crowds and main dps and dont forget brawler can push enemies and can move and for war machine no way you really said its worse (ace pilot is sub-dps because of bad range)
pursuit: FINALLY, WORTHY OPPONENT, US BATTLE BE LEGENDARY! pursuit with suck target but have 169.78 vs ace pilot with mid target and have 168.6 dps oh and ace pilot HUMILIATED all golden perks on towers/golden towers
yeah no ace is no where better than g pryo as a support and isnt better than g scout for speedrun or early also even though it has more dps than g mini but g mini is constanly attacking which ace doesnt so it also have more terrible dps than g mini
I think your forgetting the fact that ace pilot sucks at bosses also the fact that its extremely mao dependent you need a map like cross roads of grass lands for it to even be viable, do t get me wrong even with that map dependency it stil REALLY good against crowds and the fact that it gives hidden detection makes it viable for fallen strats for helping rangers, Tldr rework is perfect just as is cause ace is a support tower now not a main dps tower
A sitting in the corner being second powerful thing just buy ace pilot then get gold crate then grind until you get turret and then get accelerator DJ farm and basically you just need accelerator warm and DJ and then basically you can do every single mode. Pilot is easy. It will get you the accelerator every mode in the game, beaten and only two days.
Towers that are better tham ACE V2 Brawler - Accelerator - Golden Minigunner - (no placement limit but still -20 dps) Elf camp - idk wich more prob engineer with sentry spam
ace pilot is 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
Come on man you to can buy ace pilot
Or you not gonna buy
Pin of shame
Beat hardcore without event towers hardcore towers and military base with ace
Fun fact ace pilot already had 100 dps before the rework so yeah
Im pretty sure pursuit also gettin a rework
“Dev are racist” got me dying 💀
Ace is good for hardcore now😊(it was from the start tho)
It was , but when the Militant buff happened he kinda got replaced, now Ace is back on top because of the rework
accel just chillin in the background:
Fr and engi
@@frogish5977 fr
it costs gems ofc its better...
Thats like saying "golden minigunner chilling in the background" in a "paintballer got reworked" video
shishhhh
Some of those ace pilot dps are carried by the bombarding dps, also they make max level fly faster for a reason; so ace pilot doesnt constantly attacking
it makes sense, an A10 Warthog's gun deletes a lot of things irl
Why is this actually funny
BECAUSE THE DEVS ARE RACIST
the targeting/placament limit/late hd: HAHAHAHAHA did you forget about me?
Ace pilot having more dps than a G-minigunner is cool and all, IF ONLY IT WASN'T ONLY FOR 2-3 SECONDS EACH LAP. So, yeah, the rework is cool, but it is not more viable than pursuit or Gmini, purely because of how it works as a tower.
Why do you expect tds players to have knowledge. Ace pilot rework just buffed it by 40 dps. It just made it better for mid game. Rocketeer and gmini and still better
Same with warden btw and normal mini and pursuit as well as brawler and war machine
@@sciencemoth8669then again, it’s main purpose now is giving cliff towers Hidden detection. In which helps a lot in HC runs.
@@sciencemoth8669blud Ace is literally meta, Rocketeer and GM aren't
@@sus_noob428 gold scout is meta. Does it have more reliable better DPS then enginner for example
Ngl too true, if only gmini didn't have A PLACEMENT LIMIT
G Mini doesn't
@@command_rno shit really???????
Bro forgor 💀
Uhmm ace pillot does have placement limit, and golden minigunner. No.
Does he know?
accel and engi be doin the frost invasion recliner emote
Accel and engineer “finally a worthy opponent”
Pursuit actually having better targeting than ace pilot, because it stops when sees the enemy, and if its out of range, its searches for it, not like ace pilot.
If you put it at front and change it to 8 turn it is better than pursuit
@@NightmareRankwelp, yeah
It's rework is probably next so we might get a op pursuit
@@AgentInkwellEggW
Lucille v3 be like: hello
Looks like the wili are wrong,i see the swingrate of warden in max is 0.8 not 1.1
Yeaaa but your only using that dps for like 4-6 seconds at most
Gotta wait for pursuit rework
warden has 4 bugs rn which affect it by a lot
I KNEW IT, THE DEVS ARE RACIST!!!!!
Pursuits targeting is wayyy better than ace pilots nonexistent targeting
I won fallen with golden cowboys + new acepilot and support towers... ONLY
Yeah they definitely need to either bump this towers price up or just bump it to the highest level you can without making it a hardcore Tower. But the issues still stands it's targeting is ass
This isn't pursuits
Ace gona be like 15k coins by next week watch and see
Nope, devs are taking a break for 2 weeks
@@Plinko001 it was an exaggeration obviously cuz I read the news feed but you get my point
watch it get nerfed instantly lmao
@@astragaming6947 tds be like: add the most broken thing NERF IT TO THE GROUND like what happen with JESTER
@@Gameboi191 exactly
I say the main balancing part is that ace pilot is always moving, meaning it only does it’s insane dps for a short time
Yeah people really forget it can't constantly do damage and it won't be consistent
@@ivan.2050 the 8 ace army on a curve:
Others:i remembered ace is unreliable
Farm: 😃🌾
ik this update make ace better but seriously it only have good crowd control and hidden detect and that it (the other use I found for it is just giving hidden detect for other and that it but this update dont make ace better than other late game towers tho)
oh and uh..I did use the ace for early and mid game and I manage to get max farm and start focusing on ranger really soon so the ace is still a very solid early and mid game 👍)
Engineer: Finally, a worthy opponent, our battle will be legendary!
Didn't expected, that ace pilot have lower DPS that pursuit (difference on 1 DPS lol), but anyway 8 aces cheaper that 10 pursuits.
i have a strange feeling that it will get nerfed to the ground
Hum well its a jet
I think that have logic 😅
Keep in mind ace pilot is not always attacking
is actully 179 dps
Gold mini is better cuz it is always attacking
Ace should be moved up to advanced💀
we definitely did not need a rework/buff for ace pilot we need that for cards like paintballer, hunter, demoman, and rocketeer definitely is trash rn even tho it got buffed a while back
Mercbase, engineer, accel and necromancer laugh in the corner
They are hard and expensive to get while you can get the best tower with 3.5k golds
@@monke_420ace pilot sucks at bosses why are you all complaining, it's a good side DPS tower but not a good main dps tower you can barely beat molten titan with 8 maxxed out ace pilots it's good against crowds but not against high health bosses, accel accells(pun intended) against high HP bosses, engineer is a good all arounder for crowds and single target damage against bosses, Merc base is an amazing support tower with its damage buff and spawnable units, and necromancer can be extremely useful when fully maxxed out (lvls 1-3 sucks) the summons could provide good DPS also the fact that the graves expload when activated
Tldr ace pilots DPS is extremely unreliable but he makes a good side DPS tower and a good support tower
@@user-xh4ov1so1poh my god there is no way you wrote 5 paragraphs arguing that ace pilot is mid 😭
@@gachafrieslol2254 that's why I put in the tldr some people can't read nowadays did you even read what I said? ace pilot is a good SIDE DPS tower not a MAIN DPS tower it's a support dps hybrid
Also when the hell did I say ace was mid it's a good tower and the rework just makes it even better with the permanent stealth detection buff and amazing dps however this dps is extremely unreliable since it's not attacking most of the time which basically cuts the DPS in half it's still extremely good against high HP enemies but not high HP bosses like molten or fallen king
Tldr since you apparently can't comprehend long comments: ace is a Good support dps hybrid
@@user-xh4ov1so1pyou can solo molten mode with ace pilot only well with support towers of course but still could hold on its own ground
You almost ate 1k subway sandwiches
Commaondo: IM LITERALLY AN EVENT TOWER WHY IS ACE 6X BETTER THAN ME!! 😡😡
best vid
The problem however, is how ace attacks. Which means gmini is KIND OF better.
reverse the path after it passes enemies
@@bookofmonsters6128 10 second cooldown:
@@jebbecausejeb it still does more damage while doing it
Bruh there we're towers with more dps
Ace pilot maybe have good dps but bc ace pilot is a flying tower it doest give constant damage so meaning fast enemy like tank or shadow boss Could go threw ace pilot range fairly quickly g mini have a constant damage even if there’s an accel g mini maybe could beat accel sometimes in dps with no placement limit and constant damage so practically g mini is better but not always ace pilot is maybe early-mid while g mini is mid-late game
For short: its me ranting about g mini is better bc I grind months for that and the dev keep making new towers better and bc constant dps and no placement limit is the thing that ace pilot doesn’t have
boo hoo
Sorry if my english is bad
I aint readin all that💀
G crook boss has 180+ dps tho with his goons
Yeah, but with HIS goons, without them hes just...eeeeh...
first of all dont forget ace pilot has very bad range and it has the 2nd worse targetting (do i need to tell that pursuit has the worst?) and also you gave some towers lower dps minigunner has 100 warden idk and pursuit has much better range and it has bomb dropping the deals splash damage which makes it much better for crowds and main dps and dont forget brawler can push enemies and can move and for war machine no way you really said its worse (ace pilot is sub-dps because of bad range)
Well obviously the ace pilot was probably made by this funny austrian who REALLY loved art so maybe thats why its op??
ikr
Ace pilot rework is good but I don’t think is the best
pursuit: FINALLY, WORTHY OPPONENT, US BATTLE BE LEGENDARY!
pursuit with suck target but have 169.78 vs ace pilot with mid target and have 168.6 dps
oh and ace pilot HUMILIATED all golden perks on towers/golden towers
pursuit is better for single target tho
yeah no ace is no where better than g pryo as a support and isnt better than g scout for speedrun or early also even though it has more dps than g mini but g mini is constanly attacking which ace doesnt so it also have more terrible dps than g mini
@@darktanyan5811 ace pilot cost only 3,50o coins and golden create cost 50k, so im think need nerf ace pilot or buff golden skins.
@@handleislol yeah im know but if in map so much enemy, to pursuit be hard kill all by suck targetting
pursuit has 174 dps source: corso
It does 179.5dps
Well 8 aces can’t even kill a *molten boss*
8 g minis can't kill a molten boss
I think your forgetting the fact that ace pilot sucks at bosses also the fact that its extremely mao dependent you need a map like cross roads of grass lands for it to even be viable, do t get me wrong even with that map dependency it stil REALLY good against crowds and the fact that it gives hidden detection makes it viable for fallen strats for helping rangers,
Tldr rework is perfect just as is cause ace is a support tower now not a main dps tower
It's no longer map dependant with the new flying path and reverse
Dobt worry Ace pilot not awayl attack
BRING ME BACK TOONSCHOOOLL
A sitting in the corner being second powerful thing just buy ace pilot then get gold crate then grind until you get turret and then get accelerator DJ farm and basically you just need accelerator warm and DJ and then basically you can do every single mode. Pilot is easy. It will get you the accelerator every mode in the game, beaten and only two days.
And brawlers to
Towers that are better tham ACE V2
Brawler -
Accelerator -
Golden Minigunner - (no placement limit but still -20 dps)
Elf camp -
idk wich more prob engineer with sentry spam
nope elf camp sucks
Can't even beat Intermediate
Also he's not always dealing 168 dps
It's araound 100 on average can reach 168 if on a good map
And gmini range isn’t moving
cons: 8 placement limits
ace pilot is unrelieable
Grrrr flip u devs warden is cool u don’t have to be racist
Militant, laughing so hard in the corner about aces placement limit.
Bro care to talk with accelerator-engineer
Wardens and crooks dps is wrong
Brawler is actually better than ace pilot in most things.
Bro you are convincing below to nerf it to the ground stop it
the powercreep are insane
Well logically it makes sense because a literal fighter jet should be more powerful then a guy with miniguns on his back
w w w w w w
I wish g mini do like 28 damage at the max level. But hey atleast it have no placement limit and have high dps (140)
28 damage is broken
28 damage would be too op
Well guys, it cost like 50,000 coin to buy g mini and also random so of course it would be op
nerf ace and brawler they are too powercrept
to be fair it is very unreliable
Brawler is better than ace.
THAT A F###### CAS NOT ACE
No like sub greedy
first
R u first?
@@Silly_69420 i was his first sub lol so yeah