UPDATE NOTE FOR PATCH 15 TRAITOR"S CURSE PT II! The core build remains largely the same except there is now an extra flex point. You can choose to move this point where ever you'd like but for me, I have decided that taking the [Charismatic] talent (Increase Aura Radius by +50%) further enhances the overall supportive nature of the build. Everything else remains the same!
I’m gonna try this build out - looks fun! I’ve suffered too many games where the Veteran was more melee focused and as a Zealot I was using this shotgun to snipe snipers.
The narrative build is such a wonderful touch. Gives a vibe of how the build will play without even needing gameplay. As for the build, support vet is crazy good. Voice of Command is such a good get-out-of-jail-free card. I love play Kantrel Lasgun as a support sniper. Just pick off gunners by the handful, almost never need ammo and shout keeps everyone's toughness topped off. Can't wait for the new Vet tree so I can build towards keystones in more builds.
As a US Army combat veteran myself, my approach to the Veteran class can be summed up by words of wisdom I learned to take to heart: All of lifes problems can be solved by the proper application of high explosives in mass quantities. 'Nade spam ftw lol nice build man, close to what I was running already and gave me a few ideas to tweak it.
This is a really nice build but I will allocate the one free point to "Only In Death Does Duty End". It helped me save an otherwise lost mission too many times to not take it.
These are terrific, man. Thanks for showcasing how so many of these talents and perks interact. I took your storm witch build through an auric damnation run and it felt like easy mode.
Yeah the grenades on special kill along with the auto regen isn't redundant at all. There's always a target for a krak grenade at higher levels. In my current build, I run the voice of command with frag grenades so I can get closer to revive targets.
Nothing is better than painting a mutie with that beautiful golden ping and watching it evaporate as you entire team focus it down. That and STAND UP AND FIGHT never gets old, especially when you push away that burster who was about to blow your team up
Run almost the same build, but tweaked for recon lasguns. Drop your floating extra node, and take away the extra stack node for your mark. Add the two points to get to shock trooper. The shotgun build is more ammo efficient but if you want to spray and prey, this is still pretty efficient on ammo.
I've been running this build (with some tweaks) for a bit and it's my favourite Veteran loadout, it's so much fun and the shotgun feels so damn good, load a slug and get rid of far away problems, lob grenade(s) and get rid of a lot of problems, spam F and immediately help everyone on the team, plus the Agripinaa just BLAM BLAM BLAMs its way through everything, mine isn't eve that good And I paired it with an Orestes Mk XII, so I have good horde clear and anti armour capabilities
Good build, and it works insanely well with Headhunter autoguns too. One thing though, I find the 50% Aura radius point (Charismatic) to be pretty vital given how many talent points it boosts - the increased radius benefits Close Order Drills, the shout toughness from Duty and Honor, Born Leader, Inspiring Presence, For The Emperor, and the damage boost from Redirect Fire. All of those are buffed by the 50% Aura Radius talent and given how easy it can be for team members to be -just- outside coherancy range when things are chaotic, I feel this point is too important not to take. I personally have Kill Zone as my Flex point, and that's the point I move around to take Field Improv or reload speed where needed.
I agree! The wider aura radius helps a lot in ensuring everyone get ammo whenever Survivalist procs as well - in addition to everything else you've mentioned!
@@rykenxiv Hopefully the upcoming veteran tree rework will free up just enough points to be able to take that + Field Improv + Kill zone AND something else like the reload or demo team without losing too much!
Tried out this build and I really enjoy it, more so than my Ogryn gunner build which surprised me. One change I've made is I use the revolver instead of the shotgun. It has the same good ammo efficiency and can kill any non-carapace enemies in a single shot even without damge-boosting blessings, barring mutants and Ogryns, which will take 2.
Great video! I don't play Darktide anymore, but I plan on coming back once the crafting is "fixed". Your talent breaktodn is very entertaining and that's why you deserve a sub. Keep it up!
This is so much fun running this combo. I'm only lvl 22 after ditching the vet class months ago when they messed up the tech tree. I'm used to my CC physker or my boss deleting zealot so staying at the back sniping away is such a change of pace 😂 thank you!!!
Hmm I got similar build however I chose to add talent for bleeding for each meele hit to get some extra utility in meele and krak grenade. I use revolver with blessing Hand Cannon and Surgical + chainsword with Bloodletting and Shred.
Been using a build basically like this but with knife since I had a high level one but hordes was always the problem so I may try the shovel to help counter that weakness. It's incredibly fun being a random retired Vet taken from the slums so just running around looking sorta homeless but an insane madman.
you could probably run an MGXII with this as well, and still be ok with ammo. Or the Revolver for the classic Officer look. I tried the build out with the Kantrael shotgun and it functioned really well. I love running support builds like this. Someone should suggest to Fatshark they should change the icon for a deployed ammo box when you're running Field Improv so people can see they can replenish their grenades with it as well.
Kantrael would struggle with Bulwarks, Crushers, and Maulers though. The slug was chosen because its the jack of all trades and face anything decently well!
@@rykenxiv Just tried the build with a full bore--no respite slug shotty. Fantastic and fun. I was reluctant to run it with the Agrinpina because I hadn't had much luck with it in the past. I guess the right build and the right build make all the difference in the world. Currently the Combat Commander is my new favorite loadout
I personally run something rather similar, except I run the right side keystone allowing me to be aggressive. load a slug, melee until a problem shows itself,slug it to the face unload a few shells and back to melee allowing the auto loading perk to do work
Of course they going to be updating the vet tree again soon (probably this week) lol. But I love the builds man, I'll give this one a try for sure. Cheers
Demolition team does not work like that anymore. Now only the veteran generates the grenade. Their allies do not get grenade regeneration in coherency.
Your statistical breakdowns makes me think you're in a STEM field, but your narrative flair in your videos makes me think you should be writing scripts or novels or some type of creative writing. I suspect you're a writer trapped in an engineer's job XD
Using almost the same build for my plasma gun, gonna give it a try with the agripina. Some notes (no hate); I don't think Catch a breath is worth it over Get Back Into The Fight. Also personally would take Demilition Team over Stockpile if you play the highest difficulty (tough choise in general). Then the last key note Target Down so you don't have to take Confirmed Kill and get the 50% Aura Radius from Charismatic. I don't take Killzone as it doesn't do anything for breakpoints (Tested these on several plasma's) Edit: Actuallyyyyy.... I do take confirmed Kill Again (again) over the aura increase. You just don't take damage anymore with the build, insane stacking of toughness regen.. Also started taking Covering Fire, and the toughness you give teams after you tag something feels dirty sometimes. Still don't think you need Killzone with plasma at least.
This is the exact build I’ve been running and its in my opinion the meta build. However i personally use the plasma gun. Survivability seems to be a big issue for veteran and this basically negates that. It sucks not being able to highlight shooters though…
funny enough the build i am currently running is very similar to this, except i chose the reload perks on the right in the top and focused on taking all the grenade perks
hi i love your videos!! can u try making a graphic settings guide for Darktide? i want a balance between good fps and graphics and am having a hard time finding good settings.
For the power sword, do not run the MK III, run the MK VI, MK VI does everything the MK III does but better, it has better swings and it has an amazing single target damage option (push attack + light) with power cycler
Oh I'm aware the VI is strong - its just I haven't got any good ones on it, so just using the III for the time being. I actually like using the Shovel more than I do the Power Sword despite how strong it is now :x
I have to ask: are you going to add a note of the updated talent tree build once traitor's curse part 2 is out? cause this looks like a hell of a fun build, and i'd hate to lose it just because of a "minor" skill tree rework
Absolutely! I'll be keeping an eye to see how drastic the changes will be, and will make a pinned comment to outline how the changes affect the build (and of course update the Gameslatern link)!
the only problem with this build... is it requires your teammates to be good, lol for an auric damnation quickplay andy like me, if we get into a shock trooper, high intensity... unless my teammates are ballers, this build just can't keep up lol. but for standard games, it's beautiful
Sunder is meant to take on packs of Ragers! The extra cleave lets you cut through them and knock them around better. Brutal Momentum is really only in play against hordes where you can activate it easily, but I'd say that the Power Sword doesn't need even more horde clear than it already provides!
What you described in the blessing portion of the shotgun is *precisely* why they need to do something with the current 2 change, 2 locked mechanism on perks and blessings. If you build your talents/skills around a bugged or unintended interaction, there's no issue b/c changing your talent tree after a major update costs nothing and you sacrifice nothing. On the other hand, if you base your perks and blessings on a weapon based on the same and it gets fixed later, you are screwed with absolutely no recourse. Well, just don't be a cheesy monkey who takes advantage of a bugged and/or unintended blessing then? Well, it's not that simple b/c, on any given patch, Fatshark can simply decide that they don't like the way something works and then, boom, it gets changed and, again, you have no recourse. You've wasted all that time, resources and money building a weapon that gets bricked over night. Unlike smite, assail was not bugged and it's +3 regen was intended... But, they re-evaluated its balance and decided to nerf it. I'm not here to debate whether or not assail needed nerfing or if the change was even warranted or not. The point is simply that FS can change something on a whim (hopefully, it's evaluated more seriously) and you have no choice. Not a massive problem with talents/skills, but can be fatal on a weapon with locked properties.
this thing is called a "GAME". When there is no change it will be boring after a short time. No Warsim. Just try and error. FS did a good job even when the performance is sometimes still bunda
@@xblmamisliebhaber5772 bricking things just bc is never a good design. I’ve played mmo’s games on pc and consoles for... a very long time... balance changes are fine, but if you’re going to do that, we need a way to adjust with those changes, not just have to grind for another 370+ base weapons, get lucky with the base, five stats, get lucky with the right perk(s), get lucky again with the right blessing(s). That’s a ridiculous predatory design any way you slice it. Also, I wasn’t arguing that they can’t or shouldn’t balance things, that’s a straw man.
Sorry mate, but i think you cry a bit to loud for no reason. Yeah, you can go long the road and grind the sht out till you see the 380 with good perks and stuff to roll, but it isnt needed. Where does all the anger come from. The psyker lightning was bugged, fine its patched now. Whats the point? Just run a diffrent type, try things out, stop cryin. Which class and which guns are you talking about???? btw console guy, shitty frames near 60 sometimes. grinded every class, play auric maelstorm most of the time, search with randoms.
@@xblmamisliebhaber5772 I don’t know where the anger is coming from either, you’re the one who replied to me. Also, reading comprehension? I specifically made a point that smite was bugged (and that assail wasn’t, but it was a design decision by FS). So... any more inaccurate/mistaken remarks? In addition to, you know, also misunderstanding that I’ve played console games *and* pc (btw, I only play DT on pc, don’t even have a console atm).
@@Vulcanerd The "design decision" was needed since bot-psyker spamed all day long low tier bots with unlimited ammo since they unlocked it with their lvl. And the smite story with the wont stop the stun or kill way to quick... was the same. First few "new" runs, the first thing you see was a psyker throwing shards. thats boring. The decision was right, its still usable but not as a hard spam. And yeah, i replied to you because in my eyes, the comment is bs. Multiple way to go, multiple ways to try. Its FS decision and if somebody comes up and does the mimimi about a gun or a noob talent, all i have to say is dude, get good actually start to "play" the game. Its fun, its balanced even with a lower performance console. XSX
Why would you use the Shotgun and not a Bolter? Basically the same ammo count and I find bolts superior to the slug, so is it for the mobility and handling speed?
If you have the aim for it, the slug technically out performs the Bolter on a damage per ammo spent basis - no way a Bolter (with the same build) can 2 shot a Crusher on Damnation - and you'd have to spend a lot more bolts to break open a Bulwark as well!
@@rykenxiv yeah you know I came back to the slug shotgun last night after watching, and yes I agree with you now. I did a few Aurics last night on my support veteran with it and I thought I would struggle to make an impact but actually the shotgun I found was more reliable in moment to moment encounters. Great video, hopefully the talent tree doesn’t get too mixed up in the next update. I would love to see a psyker video where you discuss the utility of different staffs and force sword vs dueling sword
This is very similar to the build I use on the vet. It is so strong! Love the vids man, keep em coming!! Looking forward to the new vet builds after part 2 patch.
Glad you enjoy it! I too am looking forward to seeing how the introduction of new weapon marks and (another) talent revision will lead to new builds being unearthed!
The talent narrative was awesome! If only "Only In Death Does Duty End" was in the build. That would've been a killer ender after the hype build at the end.
They stack but its not additive - meaning its not 20% + 20% + 20%! Instead stacking damage resist curios is multiplicative meaning its 20% x 20% x 20%. Stacking 3 x 20% curios works out to be a total of 48.8% resist (1- [0.8x0.8x0.8])! In other words: The first 20% damage resist gives you exactly 20% The second 20% damage resist will give you about 16% The third and last 20% damage resist will give you about 12% This is diminishing returns in action for multiplicative resistance!
That's the gameslatern curio selection thing - it shows you the potential range the curio's blessing and perks and roll into. Of course, you'd want to roll as high as you can get them!
Yes! The Talent Tree was updated (and looks different), but the skills chosen remain the same - except now you have an extra flexible point which I have placed into [Charismatic] for the larger Aura Radius!
This is not a build you can run solo with idiot pub matches, you _MUST_ have a team you can rely on. Keep this one for playing with friends only. Barely anyone realizes that Darktide is a team game. Only serious qualm I had with your analysis, which is shockingly adept compared to the average player, is your analysis on the Bolter. The Bolter is not an ammo hungry weapon unless you're playing it like an autogun. Its semi-auto in its ADS for very, very good reasons, its so that when you fire, you _hit your shot,_ or you don't shoot. Its for obliterating elites, the only thing you should ever just hipfire and blast away is Crushers and Unyielding enemies, bosses. I like a lot of your input, you have good, salient analysis on a lot of the ideas, its just a skillpoint here and there that makes me go ???, really. The lack of a Krak grenade means you have to spend an extra point to get to the talents below it. I'm puzzled by your lack of Grenade Tinkerer, because anything that doesn't _kill_ a light target like a poxwalker in one hit is useless and aesthetic at best. The Shredders don't do enough damage to kill a horde. I'd suggest running it with Grenade Tinkerer, just to test it out and see if you find an improvement. As well, the lack of the Revive on the Voice of Command is also very, very strange to me, its an extremely powerful utility ability that you can use to save a run that's going sideways with very easily. Lastly, I don't think the skill about medipaks is useful, because it only heals the corruption from the wound that is currently corrupted, if you've already gone down, or your ally has, you won't undo the corruption for that lost wound, only the wound that's currently taking damage, and that's just the difference between one hit in melee, and one and three quarters. The best advice here is, be aware, and do not get hit. Don't tunnel vision, but that's just a decentish tip anyway.
I used to run revive when I was running lower levels, but if you have the shout up you can usually get a revive off only using the shout anyway and Id rather spam the toughness if only for myself because its a get out of jail free card, keeps my health up, ect ect. When I have the revive I feel like I can never use it because when I start using it someone goes down, its got 15 seconds on the cooldown, and it feels like it hurts rather than helps. Sure it can clutch, Ive clutched with it before raising 2 people at once where there would have been no way to save them otherwise, but it changes the way I play in a negative way while not having it changes it in a positive so I stopped running it. Now I get 5% crit on dodge with that point
I dont mean to rain on the parade but the narrative stuff is so corny dog. I dont wanna imply the vids should be some sorta soulless stat sheet reading because thats what any channel can do n its boring. Not saying ur stuff is poor quality or anything either but maybe look to something like FudgeMuppet’s old fallout 4 builds for incorporating narrative into build. Idk maybe its just not for me but my eyes feel like they’re gonna roll outta my skull sometimes 😭
Fair comment and I appreciate that you even gave a suggestion to it as well! Took a look at FudgeMuppet's stuff - a background story might be interesting actually! I haven't received any negative stuff about the narrative portion of the build, so perhaps it might just be you in this case (no problems about not liking it - each to their own!). Thanks for commenting though! You've definitely given me some thoughts and ideas to explore :)
Don't know if you trolling but ok. I can 2 shot a Crusher and sometimes 1 shot a Mauler without an issue, so don't know what you're going on about - even demonstrated in the video itself
UPDATE NOTE FOR PATCH 15 TRAITOR"S CURSE PT II!
The core build remains largely the same except there is now an extra flex point. You can choose to move this point where ever you'd like but for me, I have decided that taking the [Charismatic] talent (Increase Aura Radius by +50%) further enhances the overall supportive nature of the build.
Everything else remains the same!
I love the part where the Comeback Commander said its Comeback time and proceed to come all over their ba-... hmmm, thats not right.
or is it?
🤨
*Combat, not comeback.
I really do always love the talent overview. There's always a nice story to it.
The narrative of the build is a thing of beauty
I’m gonna try this build out - looks fun! I’ve suffered too many games where the Veteran was more melee focused and as a Zealot I was using this shotgun to snipe snipers.
Loved the narrative build. That's such a lovely touch. Actually inspiring to try something like this.
Glad you liked it! This one was fun to make!
The narrative build is such a wonderful touch. Gives a vibe of how the build will play without even needing gameplay. As for the build, support vet is crazy good. Voice of Command is such a good get-out-of-jail-free card. I love play Kantrel Lasgun as a support sniper. Just pick off gunners by the handful, almost never need ammo and shout keeps everyone's toughness topped off. Can't wait for the new Vet tree so I can build towards keystones in more builds.
As a US Army combat veteran myself, my approach to the Veteran class can be summed up by words of wisdom I learned to take to heart: All of lifes problems can be solved by the proper application of high explosives in mass quantities. 'Nade spam ftw lol nice build man, close to what I was running already and gave me a few ideas to tweak it.
This is a really nice build but I will allocate the one free point to "Only In Death Does Duty End". It helped me save an otherwise lost mission too many times to not take it.
Good choice for a quote, now go make Shaxx proud!
There is no Destiny, only Faith! 😂
the way you describe the skills like your describing a character is very immersive, awesome
These are terrific, man. Thanks for showcasing how so many of these talents and perks interact.
I took your storm witch build through an auric damnation run and it felt like easy mode.
Yeah the grenades on special kill along with the auto regen isn't redundant at all. There's always a target for a krak grenade at higher levels. In my current build, I run the voice of command with frag grenades so I can get closer to revive targets.
Nothing is better than painting a mutie with that beautiful golden ping and watching it evaporate as you entire team focus it down. That and STAND UP AND FIGHT never gets old, especially when you push away that burster who was about to blow your team up
Now this is a good one. Thank you for sharing this with us.
Run almost the same build, but tweaked for recon lasguns. Drop your floating extra node, and take away the extra stack node for your mark. Add the two points to get to shock trooper. The shotgun build is more ammo efficient but if you want to spray and prey, this is still pretty efficient on ammo.
I've been running this build (with some tweaks) for a bit and it's my favourite Veteran loadout, it's so much fun and the shotgun feels so damn good, load a slug and get rid of far away problems, lob grenade(s) and get rid of a lot of problems, spam F and immediately help everyone on the team, plus the Agripinaa just BLAM BLAM BLAMs its way through everything, mine isn't eve that good
And I paired it with an Orestes Mk XII, so I have good horde clear and anti armour capabilities
Good build, and it works insanely well with Headhunter autoguns too. One thing though, I find the 50% Aura radius point (Charismatic) to be pretty vital given how many talent points it boosts - the increased radius benefits Close Order Drills, the shout toughness from Duty and Honor, Born Leader, Inspiring Presence, For The Emperor, and the damage boost from Redirect Fire. All of those are buffed by the 50% Aura Radius talent and given how easy it can be for team members to be -just- outside coherancy range when things are chaotic, I feel this point is too important not to take. I personally have Kill Zone as my Flex point, and that's the point I move around to take Field Improv or reload speed where needed.
I agree! The wider aura radius helps a lot in ensuring everyone get ammo whenever Survivalist procs as well - in addition to everything else you've mentioned!
@@rykenxiv Hopefully the upcoming veteran tree rework will free up just enough points to be able to take that + Field Improv + Kill zone AND something else like the reload or demo team without losing too much!
This simple Kruber-ish build has got me playing Darktide again so for that thank you! Absolutely love the narrative skill tree section as well!
Tried out this build and I really enjoy it, more so than my Ogryn gunner build which surprised me. One change I've made is I use the revolver instead of the shotgun. It has the same good ammo efficiency and can kill any non-carapace enemies in a single shot even without damge-boosting blessings, barring mutants and Ogryns, which will take 2.
Great video! I don't play Darktide anymore, but I plan on coming back once the crafting is "fixed". Your talent breaktodn is very entertaining and that's why you deserve a sub.
Keep it up!
This is so much fun running this combo. I'm only lvl 22 after ditching the vet class months ago when they messed up the tech tree. I'm used to my CC physker or my boss deleting zealot so staying at the back sniping away is such a change of pace 😂 thank you!!!
Hmm I got similar build however I chose to add talent for bleeding for each meele hit to get some extra utility in meele and krak grenade.
I use revolver with blessing Hand Cannon and Surgical + chainsword with Bloodletting and Shred.
This build is awesome, you make the best builds my man, and your videos are extremely well thought out. Much respect.
Ah lord Shaxx even across games your wisdom inspires us
You're talent narrative was an amazing poem!
nice Shaxx quote, classic him ranting about grenades
I really enjoy how you do these - you have a natural talent here, thank you!
Thank you very much!
I really like rending accatran and I still kept using it as a horde clear build, but now I just can't anymore. This build is just too good!
This is incredible and exactly what I’ve been looking for to help support my friends I just got into the game!
Just ran a game with this and the build is pretty insane. Thank you !
This build is so comfy, I love it. Thanks for making it, and great video as always!
Been using a build basically like this but with knife since I had a high level one but hordes was always the problem so I may try the shovel to help counter that weakness.
It's incredibly fun being a random retired Vet taken from the slums so just running around looking sorta homeless but an insane madman.
you made my gardener build! (or one very similar) very different aestics tho
you could probably run an MGXII with this as well, and still be ok with ammo. Or the Revolver for the classic Officer look. I tried the build out with the Kantrael shotgun and it functioned really well. I love running support builds like this. Someone should suggest to Fatshark they should change the icon for a deployed ammo box when you're running Field Improv so people can see they can replenish their grenades with it as well.
Kantrael would struggle with Bulwarks, Crushers, and Maulers though. The slug was chosen because its the jack of all trades and face anything decently well!
@@rykenxiv Just tried the build with a full bore--no respite slug shotty. Fantastic and fun. I was reluctant to run it with the Agrinpina because I hadn't had much luck with it in the past. I guess the right build and the right build make all the difference in the world. Currently the Combat Commander is my new favorite loadout
I personally run something rather similar, except I run the right side keystone allowing me to be aggressive. load a slug, melee until a problem shows itself,slug it to the face unload a few shells and back to melee allowing the auto loading perk to do work
The hell bore two also works fort his build, it's my main build currently.
Love the build, will try this out for my Veteran!
Also love the Shaxx quoute lol
I LOVE this. Gonna need to build me a new Agripinaa (or two) with the blessings on here.
Still gonna need to get a No Respite one for myself as well!
"I see this varlet has a talent for explanation, something more of you should have by now."
Hadron..... Most definitely
+1 for the Shaxx shout out♥
Of course they going to be updating the vet tree again soon (probably this week) lol. But I love the builds man, I'll give this one a try for sure. Cheers
Demolition team does not work like that anymore. Now only the veteran generates the grenade. Their allies do not get grenade regeneration in coherency.
I am aware! Its more for the ability to keep chucking grenades out that will support them (rather than regenerating their grenades)
Honestly I don't know if it ever worked for allies at least for me it felt like it was never working as intended
Good review 🎉
Your statistical breakdowns makes me think you're in a STEM field, but your narrative flair in your videos makes me think you should be writing scripts or novels or some type of creative writing. I suspect you're a writer trapped in an engineer's job XD
You're not far off hahaha
Using almost the same build for my plasma gun, gonna give it a try with the agripina. Some notes (no hate); I don't think Catch a breath is worth it over Get Back Into The Fight. Also personally would take Demilition Team over Stockpile if you play the highest difficulty (tough choise in general). Then the last key note Target Down so you don't have to take Confirmed Kill and get the 50% Aura Radius from Charismatic. I don't take Killzone as it doesn't do anything for breakpoints (Tested these on several plasma's)
Edit:
Actuallyyyyy.... I do take confirmed Kill Again (again) over the aura increase. You just don't take damage anymore with the build, insane stacking of toughness regen.. Also started taking Covering Fire, and the toughness you give teams after you tag something feels dirty sometimes. Still don't think you need Killzone with plasma at least.
I think we are going to need an update.
fantastic work
This is almost one to one my build xD
With the massive amount of ragers and gunners, having the better UI mod and just watching my ammo count shoot through the roof is pure dopamine
This is the exact build I’ve been running and its in my opinion the meta build. However i personally use the plasma gun. Survivability seems to be a big issue for veteran and this basically negates that. It sucks not being able to highlight shooters though…
Great writing dude
Glad you think so!
I wish the radiopack didn't look like it was clipping into the veteran's back as much as it does.
funny enough the build i am currently running is very similar to this, except i chose the reload perks on the right in the top and focused on taking all the grenade perks
Modelist? I like your hud extra info bits.
Any vet playing like this is a gun ogryn's best friend
;)
hi i love your videos!! can u try making a graphic settings guide for Darktide? i want a balance between good fps and graphics and am having a hard time finding good settings.
im running pmuch the same build with a helbore mk2
For the power sword, do not run the MK III, run the MK VI, MK VI does everything the MK III does but better, it has better swings and it has an amazing single target damage option (push attack + light) with power cycler
Oh I'm aware the VI is strong - its just I haven't got any good ones on it, so just using the III for the time being. I actually like using the Shovel more than I do the Power Sword despite how strong it is now :x
I have to ask: are you going to add a note of the updated talent tree build once traitor's curse part 2 is out? cause this looks like a hell of a fun build, and i'd hate to lose it just because of a "minor" skill tree rework
Absolutely! I'll be keeping an eye to see how drastic the changes will be, and will make a pinned comment to outline how the changes affect the build (and of course update the Gameslatern link)!
thank you !@@rykenxiv
It rly feels like after they added the keystones for vet the skill tree just became so much harder and less diverse to make
That might change soon with the update to the Vet tree! Wonder what will become of it!
the only problem with this build... is it requires your teammates to be good, lol
for an auric damnation quickplay andy like me, if we get into a shock trooper, high intensity... unless my teammates are ballers, this build just can't keep up lol.
but for standard games, it's beautiful
Is sunder even worth having as a blessing on power swords when brutal momentum exists? The extra weakspot damage is nothing to scoff at either.
Sunder is meant to take on packs of Ragers! The extra cleave lets you cut through them and knock them around better. Brutal Momentum is really only in play against hordes where you can activate it easily, but I'd say that the Power Sword doesn't need even more horde clear than it already provides!
@Ryken What mod do you use that displays the stacks of debuffs/DoTs on enemies?
Its the Debuff Indicator mod!
How do you get the Blessed Bullet(s)? I see all these builds with them, but I almost never get them or find them in shops.
Oh the curio? Its random - the curio is just an icon and has no bearing on the stats or blessings of the weapon!
What you described in the blessing portion of the shotgun is *precisely* why they need to do something with the current 2 change, 2 locked mechanism on perks and blessings. If you build your talents/skills around a bugged or unintended interaction, there's no issue b/c changing your talent tree after a major update costs nothing and you sacrifice nothing. On the other hand, if you base your perks and blessings on a weapon based on the same and it gets fixed later, you are screwed with absolutely no recourse.
Well, just don't be a cheesy monkey who takes advantage of a bugged and/or unintended blessing then? Well, it's not that simple b/c, on any given patch, Fatshark can simply decide that they don't like the way something works and then, boom, it gets changed and, again, you have no recourse. You've wasted all that time, resources and money building a weapon that gets bricked over night. Unlike smite, assail was not bugged and it's +3 regen was intended... But, they re-evaluated its balance and decided to nerf it.
I'm not here to debate whether or not assail needed nerfing or if the change was even warranted or not. The point is simply that FS can change something on a whim (hopefully, it's evaluated more seriously) and you have no choice. Not a massive problem with talents/skills, but can be fatal on a weapon with locked properties.
this thing is called a "GAME". When there is no change it will be boring after a short time. No Warsim. Just try and error. FS did a good job even when the performance is sometimes still bunda
@@xblmamisliebhaber5772 bricking things just bc is never a good design. I’ve played mmo’s games on pc and consoles for... a very long time... balance changes are fine, but if you’re going to do that, we need a way to adjust with those changes, not just have to grind for another 370+ base weapons, get lucky with the base, five stats, get lucky with the right perk(s), get lucky again with the right blessing(s). That’s a ridiculous predatory design any way you slice it. Also, I wasn’t arguing that they can’t or shouldn’t balance things, that’s a straw man.
Sorry mate, but i think you cry a bit to loud for no reason. Yeah, you can go long the road and grind the sht out till you see the 380 with good perks and stuff to roll, but it isnt needed. Where does all the anger come from. The psyker lightning was bugged, fine its patched now. Whats the point? Just run a diffrent type, try things out, stop cryin. Which class and which guns are you talking about????
btw console guy, shitty frames near 60 sometimes.
grinded every class, play auric maelstorm most of the time, search with randoms.
@@xblmamisliebhaber5772 I don’t know where the anger is coming from either, you’re the one who replied to me. Also, reading comprehension? I specifically made a point that smite was bugged (and that assail wasn’t, but it was a design decision by FS). So... any more inaccurate/mistaken remarks?
In addition to, you know, also misunderstanding that I’ve played console games *and* pc (btw, I only play DT on pc, don’t even have a console atm).
@@Vulcanerd The "design decision" was needed since bot-psyker spamed all day long low tier bots with unlimited ammo since they unlocked it with their lvl. And the smite story with the wont stop the stun or kill way to quick... was the same. First few "new" runs, the first thing you see was a psyker throwing shards. thats boring.
The decision was right, its still usable but not as a hard spam.
And yeah, i replied to you because in my eyes, the comment is bs.
Multiple way to go, multiple ways to try. Its FS decision and if somebody comes up and does the mimimi about a gun or a noob talent, all i have to say is dude, get good actually start to "play" the game. Its fun, its balanced even with a lower performance console. XSX
Why would you use the Shotgun and not a Bolter? Basically the same ammo count and I find bolts superior to the slug, so is it for the mobility and handling speed?
If you have the aim for it, the slug technically out performs the Bolter on a damage per ammo spent basis - no way a Bolter (with the same build) can 2 shot a Crusher on Damnation - and you'd have to spend a lot more bolts to break open a Bulwark as well!
@@rykenxiv yeah you know I came back to the slug shotgun last night after watching, and yes I agree with you now. I did a few Aurics last night on my support veteran with it and I thought I would struggle to make an impact but actually the shotgun I found was more reliable in moment to moment encounters. Great video, hopefully the talent tree doesn’t get too mixed up in the next update.
I would love to see a psyker video where you discuss the utility of different staffs and force sword vs dueling sword
So long as Cadia stands so can you!
This is very similar to the build I use on the vet. It is so strong! Love the vids man, keep em coming!! Looking forward to the new vet builds after part 2 patch.
Glad you enjoy it! I too am looking forward to seeing how the introduction of new weapon marks and (another) talent revision will lead to new builds being unearthed!
The talent narrative was awesome! If only "Only In Death Does Duty End" was in the build. That would've been a killer ender after the hype build at the end.
It would have - and I thought about it a lot, but I think because that Talent would be a flexible point, I couldn't include it in!
Just one thing - I heard in a video that damage reductions on curios don'T stack, so taking 3x -20% sniper gives only 20%. Is that true?
They stack but its not additive - meaning its not 20% + 20% + 20%!
Instead stacking damage resist curios is multiplicative meaning its 20% x 20% x 20%. Stacking 3 x 20% curios works out to be a total of 48.8% resist (1- [0.8x0.8x0.8])!
In other words:
The first 20% damage resist gives you exactly 20%
The second 20% damage resist will give you about 16%
The third and last 20% damage resist will give you about 12%
This is diminishing returns in action for multiplicative resistance!
@@rykenxiv Ah nice, so it's just multiplicative but it works. Thanks.
why do you curios show a range instead of the actual percentage?
That's the gameslatern curio selection thing - it shows you the potential range the curio's blessing and perks and roll into. Of course, you'd want to roll as high as you can get them!
Is the skill tree different now?
Yes! The Talent Tree was updated (and looks different), but the skills chosen remain the same - except now you have an extra flexible point which I have placed into [Charismatic] for the larger Aura Radius!
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This is not a build you can run solo with idiot pub matches, you _MUST_ have a team you can rely on. Keep this one for playing with friends only. Barely anyone realizes that Darktide is a team game. Only serious qualm I had with your analysis, which is shockingly adept compared to the average player, is your analysis on the Bolter. The Bolter is not an ammo hungry weapon unless you're playing it like an autogun. Its semi-auto in its ADS for very, very good reasons, its so that when you fire, you _hit your shot,_ or you don't shoot. Its for obliterating elites, the only thing you should ever just hipfire and blast away is Crushers and Unyielding enemies, bosses.
I like a lot of your input, you have good, salient analysis on a lot of the ideas, its just a skillpoint here and there that makes me go ???, really.
The lack of a Krak grenade means you have to spend an extra point to get to the talents below it.
I'm puzzled by your lack of Grenade Tinkerer, because anything that doesn't _kill_ a light target like a poxwalker in one hit is useless and aesthetic at best. The Shredders don't do enough damage to kill a horde. I'd suggest running it with Grenade Tinkerer, just to test it out and see if you find an improvement.
As well, the lack of the Revive on the Voice of Command is also very, very strange to me, its an extremely powerful utility ability that you can use to save a run that's going sideways with very easily.
Lastly, I don't think the skill about medipaks is useful, because it only heals the corruption from the wound that is currently corrupted, if you've already gone down, or your ally has, you won't undo the corruption for that lost wound, only the wound that's currently taking damage, and that's just the difference between one hit in melee, and one and three quarters. The best advice here is, be aware, and do not get hit. Don't tunnel vision, but that's just a decentish tip anyway.
I used to run revive when I was running lower levels, but if you have the shout up you can usually get a revive off only using the shout anyway and Id rather spam the toughness if only for myself because its a get out of jail free card, keeps my health up, ect ect. When I have the revive I feel like I can never use it because when I start using it someone goes down, its got 15 seconds on the cooldown, and it feels like it hurts rather than helps. Sure it can clutch, Ive clutched with it before raising 2 people at once where there would have been no way to save them otherwise, but it changes the way I play in a negative way while not having it changes it in a positive so I stopped running it. Now I get 5% crit on dodge with that point
Shoot maulers in the legs
It’s 0 armor
But no weakspot modifier!
@@rykenxiv they die faster to having their knees shot than face in most cases
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Close but not quite :p
Veteran supports builds are carry builds. Don’t do this to your team.
Admit it, most of the time spent between videos is spent writing the script for the talent narrative
Yup... hahaha
I dont mean to rain on the parade but the narrative stuff is so corny dog. I dont wanna imply the vids should be some sorta soulless stat sheet reading because thats what any channel can do n its boring. Not saying ur stuff is poor quality or anything either but maybe look to something like FudgeMuppet’s old fallout 4 builds for incorporating narrative into build. Idk maybe its just not for me but my eyes feel like they’re gonna roll outta my skull sometimes 😭
Fair comment and I appreciate that you even gave a suggestion to it as well! Took a look at FudgeMuppet's stuff - a background story might be interesting actually!
I haven't received any negative stuff about the narrative portion of the build, so perhaps it might just be you in this case (no problems about not liking it - each to their own!).
Thanks for commenting though! You've definitely given me some thoughts and ideas to explore :)
Cant kill armor. No dmg to bosses. Mutant dies in 4 headshots. The build is versatile alright. It sucks at everything. 🤣
Don't know if you trolling but ok. I can 2 shot a Crusher and sometimes 1 shot a Mauler without an issue, so don't know what you're going on about - even demonstrated in the video itself