"Ruby & Oswald" (1978) Dramatic, Excellent JFK Assassination Movie
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- Drawing extensively from the Warren Report, this docudrama characterizes the two most significant personalities involved in the Kennedy assassination. Lee Harvey Oswald (Frederic Forrest) is presented as a troubled loner with a speckled past looking to merely acquire fame for killing the president. Jack Ruby (Michael Lerner), on the other hand, is shown to be rather warm-hearted and patriotic, his killing of Oswald being motivated exclusively by his inordinate affection for the president.
First aired on February 8, 1978. For education, entertainment, enlightenment and inspiration. We hope you enjoy!
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Written and directed by the Warren Commission
The Warren Omission. Lol.
The U.S. press and Hollywood were prevailed upon to tole the line for “national security reasons.” Sad fact is, it really WAS for national security reasons.
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Saves me time thanks👍
Merry Christmas 🎅🙏👍🥳
@terrikalooey - facts & evidence
What a terrible thing that people still believe this ABSOLUTE CRAP !
Believe what you want but just remember this came out when we didn’t have nearly as much information.
@@CoolCademMAnimates-fz1ui BS, I am 75, watched the assassination as it happened! This information has been known for half a century !! The info WAS known, but the government just hid the facts to those that allowed the lies to continue! Those who did not believe this, delved in the real facts! Like me! I have MANY books on this issue.....Some are 30 years old! Get rid of your blinders!
What information?.. There’s zero evidence of a conspiracy, to this very day.. Oswald definitely murdered a cop, which is enough for me..
And Ruby’s actions that morning are locked down.. Go learn about them and then come back here and tell me that guy was a hired assassin?!.. I mean, he took his dog with him and left her in the car, for goodness sakes!..
I lived in Oak Cliff and every time I walked down Jefferson Blvd, I got an eerie feeling.
My visit to Dallas and driving the parade route, my first thought was how close the buildings were to the streets and the hundreds of windows on both sides of the streets. Their could have been 20 shooters with excellent shot range.
Exactly! I live in a suburb of Dallas and think about the assassination every time I drive by- still gives me chills
you just have to stand behind the picket fence on the knoll. I felt like I could peg a driver with golf ball. With a parking lot provided.
@@donofon101 I think 🤔 that was the head shot from behind the fence. the car slowed to give him a slow target.
It is believed that there's wasnt just a sniper on the knoll and in the depository. As many as 3 more for a total of at least 5
@@JL-qo1hg a good USA sniper gun of that day was a marines .308 Remington 700, they did subsonic bullets with silencers on them.
I was 10 at time and I remember having opened the World Book enclopedia at President Kennedys spot and filling in with a pencil his death date. Quite emotional and I remember shedding a tear.
I love the part with Ruby weeping bitterly after hearing the news broadcast. Better than a Three Stooges movie
That scene is laughable when I think LBJ's mistress who knew Jack Ruby said
Ruby hated JFK.
@@winggullseagull1230 ya and no one who loved the president would of been so elbows deep in the plot to murder him like ruby was
@@winggullseagull1230 There are 100s of anomalies and circumstances which makes the idea that Oswald killed JFK totally unlikely. Oswald served on a CIA base in Japan and had contact with several people who are linked to the CIA. The last phone-call Oswald made was to a man who was a handler to other CIA assets.
The most absurd scene in the film . It might be convincing if youve never heard much about the case .
@@winggullseagull1230ppppppppppp❤
I am four months older than John John was so I don’t remember any of this first hand, but with all the coverage over the years I feel like I was there! Rest in Peace, Mr.President.
😢😢😢. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸.
Similarly, i was born on Tuesday the 19th & Mom always said she remembers her being in the hospital when the news hit....
Lord in Heaven, please change the past back in reality here on earth so, My sister, Jennifer tang and her friend, Dylan Lewis will be born as their new lives on June 25th, 1993. But, also McKenna Grace and her best friend, August Maturo will be born as their new lives on July 1st, 2000 and then, Daven Wilson, Hunter Pecunia, Sierra Mccormick and Aedin Mincks will be born as their new lives in June 30th, 1997. After I will be born without autism, spectrums, disabilities and disorders as my new life in reality on earth on June 20th, 1997 to avoid Getting Mad, Talking Hands, IEP Meetings and Summer School and become a typical, average, ability, skinny, and helpful person to change my life by watching educational channels on tv, speak with my first words and playing toys, interventions and games, when I can be a 2 year old back in 1999, spend more times with my sister and her friends, my aunt, my uncle and their friends my mom, my dad and their friends, my cousins and their friends and my grandparents in Sterling and new friends who are typically average ability skinny kids in Sterling Elementary School when I can be a 5 year old back in 2002 so they can learn to spell my name with words, draw and paint a picture, read and write on a book, make money, doing chores and jobs at my old house, 216 W Balsam RD, Sterling, VA, exercise inside and outside in the community, singing a song, counting numbers, go out to play and eat and go to Sterling Middle School and Parkview High School to study algebra, biology, English, chemistry and geometry with me when I was a 12 year old back in 2009 and a 15 year old back in 2012 and get IPhone 1 when I can be a 10 year old back in 2007 as a second chance and I swear that we all become our younger selves again back in reality here on earth to start my life all over again before we all get older, died and Rest In Peace to heaven in the future and change and altered timeline and history back in the past, so the children actors and children actresses can become Power Rangers, Masked Rider, Beetleborgs, VR Troopers, Byclosser, Kikaider, Kikaider 01, Bijinder, Super Sentai, Kamen Rider, Inazuman, Gransazer, Justirisers, Sazer-X and Metal Hero and then you altered time back in 2001 so the US Government can create a distraction by calling the Airport Security to prevent Osama Bin Laden, the airplane hijackers and the 9/11 terrorists before they were about to hijack airplanes and destroyed the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center in New York, The Pentagon in Washington DC and Stonycreek Township in Somerset County at Pennsylvania. Right After, you altered time back in 1963 so Jack Ruby can distract Lee Harvey Oswald before he was about to kill John F. Kennedy. And also altered time back in 1968, so the police can attack James Earl Ray before he was about to kill Martin Luther King JR. and altered time back in 1914 so the Police can attack Gavrilo Princip before he was about to kill Archduke Franz Ferdinand.
@@robbi2021Bethany Lord in Heaven, please change the past back in reality here on earth so, My sister, Jennifer tang and her friend, Dylan Lewis will be born as their new lives on June 25th, 1993. But, also McKenna Grace and her best friend, August Maturo will be born as their new lives on July 1st, 2000 and then, Daven Wilson, Hunter Pecunia, Sierra Mccormick and Aedin Mincks will be born as their new lives in June 30th, 1997. After I will be born without autism, spectrums, disabilities and disorders as my new life in reality on earth on June 20th, 1997 to avoid Getting Mad, Talking Hands, IEP Meetings and Summer School and become a typical, average, ability, skinny, and helpful person to change my life by watching educational channels on tv, speak with my first words and playing toys, interventions and games, when I can be a 2 year old back in 1999, spend more times with my sister and her friends, my aunt, my uncle and their friends my mom, my dad and their friends, my cousins and their friends and my grandparents in Sterling and new friends who are typically average ability skinny kids in Sterling Elementary School when I can be a 5 year old back in 2002 so they can learn to spell my name with words, draw and paint a picture, read and write on a book, make money, doing chores and jobs at my old house, 216 W Balsam RD, Sterling, VA, exercise inside and outside in the community, singing a song, counting numbers, go out to play and eat and go to Sterling Middle School and Parkview High School to study algebra, biology, English, chemistry and geometry with me when I was a 12 year old back in 2009 and a 15 year old back in 2012 and get IPhone 1 when I can be a 10 year old back in 2007 as a second chance and I swear that we all become our younger selves again back in reality here on earth to start my life all over again before we all get older, died and Rest In Peace to heaven in the future and change and altered timeline and history back in the past, so the children actors and children actresses can become Power Rangers, Masked Rider, Beetleborgs, VR Troopers, Byclosser, Kikaider, Kikaider 01, Bijinder, Super Sentai, Kamen Rider, Inazuman, Gransazer, Justirisers, Sazer-X and Metal Hero and then you altered time back in 2001 so the US Government can create a distraction by calling the Airport Security to prevent Osama Bin Laden, the airplane hijackers and the 9/11 terrorists before they were about to hijack airplanes and destroyed the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center in New York, The Pentagon in Washington DC and Stonycreek Township in Somerset County at Pennsylvania. Right After, you altered time back in 1963 so Jack Ruby can distract Lee Harvey Oswald before he was about to kill John F. Kennedy. And also altered time back in 1968, so the police can attack James Earl Ray before he was about to kill Martin Luther King JR. and altered time back in 1914 so the Police can attack Gavrilo Princip before he was about to kill Archduke Franz Ferdinand.
@@quinntang5614 There's a lot in that post. It certainly caught us off guard. All I can say is, live life the best you can.
If there was a second shooter, to make sure the job was done, it still was coordinated by Russia as get back for the insult of the Cuban Missile Crisis. Oswald trained in Russia and just before the day of the assassination Oswald visited the Russian consulate in Mexico to get his game plan. I believe Ruby was a Russian agent in the US whose job was to take out Oswald so he could not divulge the truth of Russian involvement.
Watching this movie for only the 2nd time since it came out in 1978 . . . and then realizing the actor playing Oswald is also Chef in Apocalypse Now. . . Frederic Forrest . . . It’s a whole new experience.
R.I.P
I remember him from Harlem Nights
And the Nazi arms dealer in "The Falling down"
Fredrick was also the classic charactor Black Duck in the original series Lonesome Dove. Also many other roles in movies. A talented guy.
So Ruby just saunters down the police ramp and NO ONE says anything?????????????
The great actor Frederic Forrest who plays Oswald , passed away yesterday June 23.
How sad. he was a good actor my favourite film of his is falling down 1991 army surplus store guy....
My favorite role was "Chef" in "Apocalypse Now"
"Because I'm a Saucier.. I make great sauces, all kinds of sauces"
R.I.P.
If anyone believes Jack Ruby was a patriot and loved Kennedy, I have a bridge and an island to sell them....
Awesome. Where are they? How much?
I certainly do, the people who knew him say he was totally distraught after the assassination. but i guess that doesn't fit your conspiracy theory now does it
I like islands
@@jefferyepstein9210 nonce
@Rodney 1984 the fbi had mob wired during that period, there was a group of them reacting to oswald being shot and none of them knew who jack ruby was. he was basically a want to be with very little mob ties.
I was washing my hands when I heard on the radio that our President died. I loved that family.
IM IRISH I WAS 12 AND I DID MEET JFK IN IRELAND WELL SAW HIM FROM A FEW FEET BUT HE WAS A KIND UNBELIEVABLE TALENTED GUY WHO WANTED BETTER FOR ALL WE THE PEOPLE KNOW AMERICA KILLED THER COMMANDER AND CHIEF
R.I.P. Frederic Forrest and Michael Lerner. Two fine actors.
R.I.P.
Ruby what a liar and con artist
Ruby is bogus
@@marycooper8385 Yep.
They should have named this one "The Warren Commission Saga."
It's a great work of fiction.
20 minutes into it I'm thinking the same thing. I'm going thru comments to see if I should continue watching. Thanks for yours.
The only fiction is the conspiracy theories.
@@glennmcgeath3262 I'm not surprised to see a comment like this. This will be a short conversation. I'm just amazed that 59 years after the event there are still people wanting to perpetuate the myth that LHO was the loan assassin of JFK. I assume that's what you meant by your comment. I just don't understand who gains by doing this.
@@andywinger4197 LHO did not kill Kennedy, Acustic forensics, the EM dr. that worked on him and witnesses have made it very clear the shot to the head came from the front. Tippit was shot with two different guns, one being and auto. Oswald had to get on a bus after walking 5 blocks sit in traffic for who knows how long then another couple blocks get in a cab ride to his home get another gun and then kill Tippit within 28min. Man there is so much info that has came to light about this it is impossible to believe Oswald did anything. He never defected as stated. He did to to russia sent there by the CIA and brought back by them. The gun they walked out of the Book depository had sling mounted on the side of the gun. Not underneath as Oswalds gun had. There are pics of this.
@@charlescross4393 It seems you and I have many of the same books. "On the Trail of Assassins" by Jim Garrison was one of them. 😉
The best thing about this movie is the clip at the airport where they show the Secret Service agent getting called away from standing on the running board behind JFK on the Limo. There was a lot of confusion that resulted from his being called away from the position he obviously intended to assume.
Not true, that agent wasn't assigned to be there & when he throws his hands up in a gesture he said "I may as well go to lunch then" Kennedy also made it clear he didn't want security on the back foot holds. Doesnae suit the conspiracy wafflers, but then none of the actual factual evidence does. Balloons! 🎈🎈🎈
This is definitely the most accurate description of the Assassination Of John F Kennedy. It’s also nice it’s also a bit of a comedy at the same time and the acting is so good. I totally recommend this movie. It was also one of my childhood movies and I was born in 2004.
Rest in eternal peace President John Fitzgerald Kennedy when evil men took you're life the world was a much sadder place 😢❤😢
produced by lyndon johnson and mr hoover
Maybe he was just acting that way to cover himself because later he made that famous comment about “the world will never know true facts”
Exactly LBJ's mistress knew Jack Ruby & said he hated JFK
Beverly Oliver was friends with Jack Ruby & introduced her to Oswald
in his Carousel Club.
@@winggullseagull1230 I think those two women, as well as all the "girlfriends of" in the JFK story are liars.
Don't buy this for a minute there was definitely foul play.
BRODERICK CRAWFORD, Highway Patrol
All the time the Dallas P.D. had Oswald in their custody and yet there is not one piece of paperwork that shows any questions Oswald was asked and what he said. Not one record exists of what transpired that whole time. The only thing we have are news clippings from when he was dragged in the hallways from one office to another, and clippings of that press conference.
Rest in peace Michael Lerner 1941-2023.
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Lord in Heaven, please change the past back in reality here on earth so, My sister, Jennifer tang and her friend, Dylan Lewis will be born as their new lives on June 25th, 1993. But, also McKenna Grace and her best friend, August Maturo will be born as their new lives on July 1st, 2000 and then, Daven Wilson, Hunter Pecunia, Sierra Mccormick and Aedin Mincks will be born as their new lives in June 30th, 1997. After I will be born without autism, spectrums, disabilities and disorders as my new life in reality on earth on June 20th, 1997 to avoid Getting Mad, Talking Hands, IEP Meetings and Summer School and become a typical, average, ability, skinny, and helpful person to change my life by watching educational channels on tv, speak with my first words and playing toys, interventions and games, when I can be a 2 year old back in 1999, spend more times with my sister and her friends, my aunt, my uncle and their friends my mom, my dad and their friends, my cousins and their friends and my grandparents in Sterling and new friends who are typically average ability skinny kids in Sterling Elementary School when I can be a 5 year old back in 2002 so they can learn to spell my name with words, draw and paint a picture, read and write on a book, make money, doing chores and jobs at my old house, 216 W Balsam RD, Sterling, VA, exercise inside and outside in the community, singing a song, counting numbers, go out to play and eat and go to Sterling Middle School and Parkview High School to study algebra, biology, English, chemistry and geometry with me when I was a 12 year old back in 2009 and a 15 year old back in 2012 and get IPhone 1 when I can be a 10 year old back in 2007 as a second chance and I swear that we all become our younger selves again back in reality here on earth to start my life all over again before we all get older, died and Rest In Peace to heaven in the future and change and altered timeline and history back in the past, so the children actors and children actresses can become Power Rangers, Masked Rider, Beetleborgs, VR Troopers, Byclosser, Kikaider, Kikaider 01, Bijinder, Super Sentai, Kamen Rider, Inazuman, Gransazer, Justirisers, Sazer-X and Metal Hero and then you altered time back in 2001 so the US Government can create a distraction by calling the Airport Security to prevent Osama Bin Laden, the airplane hijackers and the 9/11 terrorists before they were about to hijack airplanes and destroyed the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center in New York, The Pentagon in Washington DC and Stonycreek Township in Somerset County at Pennsylvania. Right After, you altered time back in 1963 so Jack Ruby can distract Lee Harvey Oswald before he was about to kill John F. Kennedy. And also altered time back in 1968, so the police can attack James Earl Ray before he was about to kill Martin Luther King JR. and altered time back in 1914 so the Police can attack Gavrilo Princip before he was about to kill Archduke Franz Ferdinand.
OMG!! This year first Michael Lerner passed away & now last week Frederic Forrest also passed away too. May they Rest In Peace.
If you go to the Wikipedia page for this movie, there's a link to a review written by a journalist that was actually there to witness the shooting. It includes a great deal of detail; the journalist didn't think much of this film.
Here’s a fun fact about this movie at 30:03 it’s news reel footage outside Parkland Hospital from that day. At that particular time you see what looks like a black guy, a kid, a guy with glasses and tie, what looks like a slightly older kid, and a teenager wearing a dark jacket with his arms crossed looking over. The teenager if you look closely you can see it, went on to become the singer Meatloaf.
I presume you are saying this guy was witness to the actual shooting....not a witness to the shooting of the movie....you had me confused there for a moment.
@Chris Conley - most websites doubt MeatLoaf’s story. He was known for making things up.
@@brianarbenz1329 you go to the time I listed and you tell me?? 🤷🏻♂️
@@chrisconley8583 I did, before I checked any of those websites. I'm just saying most of the sites say it is not likely. His father was a retired Dallas Police officer (Officer Loaf? 😉)
Movie is lame , it has no interest in facts.
It was based heavily on the Warren report, one of if not the most accurate early reports
Great idea to post Ruby and Oswald movie after posted the reel film of the assassination of JFK.
I remember the President's funeral, i was eight years old, i can still hear those drums!
Me too..and the clop of the horse's hooves and Black Jack the horse..awful memories.
3rd grade. i remember the teacher comin in the room cryin saying our president is dead.
@@ixlr8677 6th grade. My memory is exactly the same as yours.
I don't believe in the W-report. But LHO really did behave strange. Everybody was watching the motorcade on the street or on tele. But he had lunch. Then, when everybody was shocked cos of the shoots, he went to the cine. Isn't it strange? Why would he do that?
What the truth is I don't know, we may never know.
The movie really dates itself.
Great character actors in this.
Thank you for the post. I never saw this before and found it to be a profoundly moving interpretation of events as known at that time. While not factually correct based on our knowledge of events today, this movie was well directed, edited, acted and paced.
Who says it is not factually accurate based on our knowledge of events today?
Absolute nonsense and revisionism from what actually happened.
@@chrisgreene2623 As if you even know what "revisionism" means.
@@chrisgreene2623 enlighten us.
Ehh
I feel You
It’s clearly a propaganda film though
Totally bogus portrayal of Rubenstein's motive.
Rubenstein got his orders from Tel Aviv.
@davidb2206 Ruby's motive is well-known. Anyone insisting it was something other has the "bogus" view.
@@stddisclaimer8020 No, what he SAID is a cover-up, obviously. What would you expect from a mafia member named Rubenstein? It was definitely not his love and caring about Jackie. That's ludicrous.
Look up a man named Irwin Weiner. A good friend of Ruby@@stddisclaimer8020
@@stddisclaimer8020
1:02:00
Odd how they leave out the part right here where in reality a reporter asks Oswald if He was part of
“ Free Cuba Committee “
& then while standing back on that table Ruby corrects the reporter saying
“ That’s , The Fair Play For Cuba Committee “
Proving the Ruby already knew Oswald
Odd that they want to portray it differently in this movie made 15 years later for the public
Trying to keep that BS narrative in the public’s minds
If it’s all true then there’s no reason to rewrite anything.
There’s actual footage of how it really went down in this press conference with Ruby correcting the reporter
Which the footage wasn’t out for the public to easily obtain when this movie was made.
This is a historically inaccurate. In all ways. In every way.
ya love it, ya need it & ya cant stop watchin' it
Damn, you got both Mr. Carlson (aka "The big guy") and Les Nesman in this.... Both did well as other rolls...
Interesting to see a reenactment of these events.
This movie is BS...jack ruby wasn't any saint or an angel. His portrayal is absolutely ridiculous....as if he was some wholesome, red blooded American that couldn't come to grips of the loss of a politician. Unbelievable.
Mixferro -
Thank you, Jack Ruby wasn't historical when President Kennedy was Assassinated,,,,
I mean, although I wasn't there when Kennedy was killed, and I didn't know Ruby, I do remember those (Wise guys) people were on the other side of the fence, sort to speak, they didn't like what the Kennedy bros were doing to them, especially Robert Kennedy.
I believe, like Most people, That, Jack Ruby was Sent to that police station house for 1, purpose and that was to Shut Lee Oswald up. 👍
this is essentially a dramatization of the Warren Report...
Thanks for the heads up- I won’t bother to watch, sorry you had to
Jews writing history perception in movies.
@@DANTHETUBEMAN ah yes, that old semitic name *MCGREEVY* , it's practically a cliché , in just about every synagogue there's a Scottish rabbi.🙄 Anyways _Parkland_ is a better one on the subject, it used to be free on CZcams, might still be
Lol. Old arcive footage facinating but mostly fiction. Yes, written by Warren Commission. Properganda in its finest.
Xx
Rubyandoswaldkneweachother
Gotta love 1970s movies
This movie checks all the Warren Commission boxes. Most crazed assassins take full credit Oswald didn't. How did Jack Ruby know about the fair play for Cuba stuff ?
exactly, the Warren Report concluded that Oswald wanted to be famous by assassinating JFK...which begs the question, why did he never confess to it and continually deny it. and why, like John Lennon's assassin, (who had that motive) did he not just throw down his gun and wait for the police and say "Yeah I did it...."
Assassin shoots the most famous man in the country, goes home, gets pistole, goes to movie theater? does that make any sense to you?
I bet he was told to meet a CIA agent there for further instruction.
we know Oswald made a call and the cops had the switchboard not send it through. that's not in the movie.
My theory is yes there was an attempted on jfk from behind,
the first shot ment as a head shot missed ricocheted off of the top edge of the windshield striking
Mr. Kennedy in the throat
(all be it a lucky shot for lack of better word) but not the kill shot,
Not the kill shot by no means!
Now here's where it gets sticky
Everyone knows the Kennedys where indeed having marital problems
& That Marilyn Monroe was the side chick of the marital problems.
Also everyone knows the jfk files at that time had been sealed for 50years
THE STICKY THEORY IS THIS
Yes there was an assassination of jfk
or
was it a hitman?
Or perhaps an internal operation?
Herhaps all of this was taking place at the same time!
"nightmare on elm Street"
I've seen the film everyone has seen
On that fateful day filmed in 1963
Where the president was shot.
I saw in the film jfk was first struck in the throat evidenced by him grabbing his throat with both hands, you can also see in the film
Jackie Kennedy move in twords jfk in what appears to be curiosity then the kill shot happens, oddly there was two shots one small entrance wound from the front in the throat then an enormous exit wound to the back of the head with what was reported brain mater scattered on the trunk of the car.
I believe that when the first shot failed to enter the back of the head Jackie Kennedy stuffed a fire arm in JFK's entry wound & initiated the kill shot passed the fire arm to the secret service agent as she was sliding over the trunk that was in charge of her safety who was the gentleman that jumped on the back of the car in the film.
In short Jackie Kennedy delivered the kill shot & the government covered this whole bag of shit up & locked it away for more than 50 years......
well the movie even says its based on the warren commission report. so its basically a completely fictional movie with very little truth or facts in it if that's their source of info.
I like the continuity in the movie, especially when we see an early'70's dodge dart, a chevyvan, a Chevrolet Caprice 1975-76...and Mr.Coulson and Less Nessman from WKRP...All good! All good!
Hahaha.
This movie deserves a remake
Where can I find the broadcast of the assassination shown here? I know it has the KBOX audio at the assassination clip so I’m kinda wondering if it even exists.
Does anyone know what happened to Ruby’s dog ? The bastard just left it alone in his car. For that alone he should be jailed.
@kevinwaters5872 Per conspiracy legend, the dog had to be "silenced" as well. Can't take a chance on the pooch blowing the plot.
@@stddisclaimer8020 no witnesses , huh ?
@@kevinwaters5872 Yes, there were; but they're in the canine witness protection program.
And make sure LHO doesn't wear a bulletproof vest during the transfer!
Michael Lerner and Lou Frizzell were magnificent in their roles as Ruby and Fritz.
14 hrs of interrogation,and no recordings or notes... Okay.
Jim Leavelle the Dallas police plain clothes officer that was handcuffed to Oswald when he was shot originally, plays the part again in fine detail in this movie. I spoke a few times with him before his death, and he revealed in vivid detail what occurred the day Ruby shot Oswald.
Which was???
@@Jasona1976 yeah....lets hear these details....he could make a fortune if he wrote a book....so I call this guy B.S. by the way, I was friends with one of the guys who were in the line up with Oswald, and he revealed many many vivid details to me, but he swore me to silence for my own protection....lol
anything interesting, it happens fast, I see a hand reaching out, but to little to late. I thought he was lead out to be shot with men on the sides of him and no one behind to get hit.
Jim Levelle was also at Pearl Harbor and survived obviously. I forget which ship. I remember this movie. Watched it..sort of disappointed with it.
I wondered why the actor who played Leavelle looked so much like the real Lavelle.
Just curious...does that look on Johnson's face @ 17:28 suggest he may have known what was in store for the President? He's literally giving him the ""up/down" look. Textbook hostility
Very good movie 60 years 60 years and people still feel the way they did 60 years ago after all this time still to some people it feels like it's yesterday that this happened and never should have happened as far as I'm concerned
Now how about an alternative movie, "Ruby and (Carlos) Marcello," about the JFK assassination cast's ties to the mafia and/or CIA.
Or better yet "Ruby and Irwin Weiner"
Title : The Warren Commission Documentary, OR
The LBJ Bedtime story
The Paine residence, to my eye, appears to be For Johnson's house, which was featured as the home of "The Old Man" (played by Bela Lugosi) in "Plan 9 From Outer Space."
Alan Lerner plays the Chicagoan Jack Ruby with a thick New York accent. Many of the hairstyles on the men are pure mid-1970s, and early panoramic shots of Dallas' downtown show tall buildings of the steel and glass style that did not exist in 1963. Oswald's child shown playing in her yard alone in early scenes looks four years old, yet his oldest child was born in early 1962, making her not yet 2 years old in November 1963. IOW, a lot of corners were cut on accuracy in this film.
The events around Oswald being sited by the store owner then ducking into the movie theater also are shown incorrectly. The woman staffing the theater window had stepped away as Oswald entered. Johnny, the store owner had telephoned the police while Oswald was looking into his store's bay window, but not at the merchandise. He suspected Oswald was the man reported to have shot the officer nearby and was trying not to be seen by police cars rushing by.
Rubinstein was from Chicago, not New York.
@@pjpj2051 Exactly. That's what I said.
And his wife couldn’t speak English
@@henryhester1897 Who's wife? Ruby's?
I find it really interesting and disturbing that the police interrogated Oswald for hours after the shooting and NONE of it was recorded. That is truly strange. Isn't it standard procedure to put these things on tape??
Even before technology as we know it yes. That is not the norm by any means.
@@barrykrebs8180 they had tape recorders back then and used them extensively. They didn't have video cameras, but they did have adequate audio recording devices.
@@ForeverBennett But no steno.
That likely means that no interrogation took place. But, people generally believe what they prefer to believe.
I heard one of the interrogators say that he had put in a request for a tape recorder months earlier, but it hadn’t been approved.
Excellent casting job.
Fun fact: this was directed by the same guy that directed Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory. Mel Stuart.
This movie should be called the worn report diaries.
So WHAT was LHO doing in the movie theater? Hiding out? Meeting a contact?
Three months after you asked and none of the Warren Commission fanbois have an explanation for you? Too bad. Need a good chuckle now and again from that lot.
Watching a movie😅
"So WHAT was LHO doing in the movie theater?" Did it escape you that he ducked in the theater to try and hide from the police swarming the streets, hot on his tail?
@@stddisclaimer8020
SOME people say he was there to meet up with a contact, SMART 🍑!!!
I want to buy one ☝🏾 of those twist machines
The newer version came out a few years ago on infomercials and then was sold at walmart on the "as seen on TV aisle" with the board and workout DVD. Think it's called a fit board but same concept just the 2020 version 😜 I have one myself, they are handy and will make you sore in places you didn't know you had!
Warren commision was a real bad stage play!
They show people running to the grassy knoll.
26:09 - Note the boxes that hide the sniper's nest. Oliver Stone does not show the same in his movie.
"The eyes of Texas are upon you, you cannot get away." Sinister.
that's a song played by the University of Texas Longhorn Band at their college football games. you are taking it way out of context
Yeah one eye was telescopic.
Was his funeral song. The whole thing was meticulously planned.
Did anyone ask why curtain rods needed to be wrapped like that. No more than 2 curtain rods.
What about the witnesses that saw shots fired from the grassy knoll
The premise that Ruby - a guy with his level and history of involvement with organized crime - would be profoundly distressed over JFK's murder is absolutely absurd.
Based on your extensive experience with organized crime, no doubt . . .
@@danielgregg2530 um no actually based upon overwhelming evidence from many many sources on Ruby's long involvement with organized crime going back to his youth in Chicago...and if you were in organized crime in the 1950s and early 1960s when Bobby Kennedy was coming down hard on them I cannot see anyone in that line of work being distressed over JFK's death to the point of putting themselves into life in prison killing the guy who murdered him. SO no not my experience just basic deductive reasoning. but please illuminate us with your explanation why Ruby would be so distraught as to put him into prison by killing Oswald? Lets hear it DannyBoy!....
@@julianciahaconsulting8663 Reports of his relatives and others who knew him. You know. Basic criminal investigation. Why do you think you have all this time in this thing devoted to his sister and his roommate and the advertising editor of the Dallas Morning News? Even the stuff with reporter Ike Pappas (who has made it clear that he thought Ruby was a weirdo) and his dogs in this thing are basically accurate (while he was shooting Oswald, he left his favorite dog, which he called his "wife", in the car). The bottom line is, you get out and interview the actual witnesses, not just sit there in your armchair spinning fine theories in your imagination. That's all. Real police work. Just the facts, ma'am.
@@danielgregg2530 How do you think we know of Ruby's involvement with organized crime in the first place? Just by sitting back in armchairs and making wild assumptions? No there have been many investigators who did the real "police work" that the corrupt Dallas police should have done but did not do. These investigators went out and interviewed Ruby's childhood friends, his various business associates, the bartenders, the waitresses, the strippers , and the regulars who worked in or went to his clubs, his landlords, his neighbors, members of organized crime in Chicago, in Vegas, in Florida and in Dallas. Friends who saw him meet big organized crime figures for dinner. People who were involved with his gun running operations to Cuba to try to overthrow Castro - a major area of "business" for the mob at the time. Numerous employees of his club who even saw him even hanging out with Oswald in his club. But let me get this straight are you really suggesting that RUby had no links to organized crime and that he killed Oswald because he was shameful that Kennedy had been killed in Dallas and wanted to save Jackie Kennedy from having to return to Dallas for a Oswald trial??
@@julianciahaconsulting8663 I think Ruby was a titty bar owner and there is always the prospect that he could have been involved with prostitution and drugs and gambling and selling hooch or even cigarettes without collecting taxes and any other number of sins, iniquities, and crimes. "Organized crime" as you so grandiloquently put it is well known to take an interest in all these kinds of things, but that does not make him a mafia *hit man*. If the mafia wants to hit somebody, they will hire the real thing.
Moreover, there is nothing else remotely logical about Ruby's behavior in connection with the murder of Oswald. I don't want to be typing all morning but it amazes me that gals like you never notice that this shooting was not only unplanned but unplannable. Even at the police station nobody knew when Oswald was going to be transported from the station because they were running behind schedule and after missing the originally scheduled time they were running way late and playing it by ear. Moreover, even if Ruby had notice from some source of the originally scheduled time, HE WAS NOT THERE AT THAT TIME. HE WOULD HAVE MISSED OSWALD ALTOGETHER. He was still at home in bed, where he was reached by phone by one of the girls that worked at his club less than an hour before the shooting.
Not only that, but running way late for such an important mission, he would not have then paused on his way to intercept Oswald way late to wire 25 bucks to that impecunious stranded stripper from Western Union, and he would not have bothered to bring his dog (which got left in his car) with him! And even if you could somehow explain all these these implausibilities, there was never any guarantee he could have gotten near Oswald, as indeed a police officer had been stationed at the head of the driveway he entered by just to keep people like him OUT, and only a failure by that officer to do his job let him get in. What the hell would he be expected to rely on -- a Jedi mind trick?
Frankly, if this was an operation of the mafia it is hard to see how they ever could have survived their first two weeks in America. Ruby would have been the Maxwell Smart or Inspector Clouseau of hit men: a guy who attains his goal by pure accident.
Lastly, you conveniently overlook all the real evidence of his motive, provided by his sister, his temporary roommate, his advertising vendor at the Dallas Morning News, a former girlfriend, and even once well-known national journalist Ike Pappas, etc., that he wasn't wrapped to tight to start with, and THEN he became unhinged about the assassination. (Pappas, a voluble cynical New Yorker, stated volubly later after dealing with him only twice before the killing that he was a real weirdo that left him too uncomfortable even to eat a sandwich Ruby offered him.)
I could go on, but whatever some divine being might have put me on Earth for I don't think it is to waste any more time than necessary arguing with people whose academic records are no doubt festooned with innumerable marks below "B", or those with paranoid personality types. As a thinker you leave too much to be desired to evaluate any further here. Let us just say that when the law professor antagonist in THE PAPER CHASE regaled his incoming new class with his metaphor of "a skull full of mush", he was referring to newly entering students who at least were smart enough to get accepted to Harvard Law School, which surely, you have not done. Now go away and stop bloviating at me before I taunt you a second time.
PROPAGANDA
They didnt release all the doks.that means that someone, that might not have been born yet, thinks its still too damaging, for somebody in high places,to be released
great film!!!
Ruth Paine was tall and had black hair, not blone and short..who did the casting for this movie? What is amazing is I believe the filming was in the TSBD..
The other movie I watched with the kids, before this one, about the unicorn that jumped over the rainbow, was more believable and fact filled.
😂😅😂😅😂
Hey man, some Sasquatch are known to coral herds of those unicorns..... Check it out....
@johnmaxwell4072 A JFK conspiracy would be the true "unicorn" here. No credible evidence for it after nearly 60 years. Being a fictitious entity, another half--century or two will make no difference.
The Hertz rental car sign is wrong. In 1963 the hertz rental car sign says CHEVROLETS. not FORDS
Is it me or is this filmed at the exact locations? Incredible insight.
R.I.P. Frederic Forrest
People I talked with who were adults when this happened, the Republicans hated Kennedy, the Democrats loved him. There were Americans who cheered when he died, but most were just shocked that he’d been murdered. They felt deep sympathy for Jackie, who had just lost their son Patrick 2 months earlier. This was her first trip with JFK since their son had died. When you look at what she went thru in the second half of 1963, it’s amazing she kept her sanity. No wonder she married Onassis and left America.
I remember no Republicans cheering. Oswald was a far-left zealot. Turns out he was CIA. Simplifying this to Republicans bad, Dems good, is why our country is so screwed up today.
My very Republican grandmother was with me as the new was reported. I was five. All partisanship disappeared. She had lived through Pearl Harbor, and the stock market crash. This was my first shocking world event. She calmed me by repeatedly saying, “It’s all right. We’ll have Johnson.” Decades later, I realized she was calming herself as well.
Republicans hated JFK? please.
Hmm. Democrats loved JFK, huh? Watch it with generalizations. LBJ was a Democrat, and he absolutely despised JFK and his brother Robert. LBJ hated JFK enough to have JFK killed to save his own skin. By 9 /22/63, LBJ was about to get criminally indicted for his extensive corruption-filled career as the most powerful politician from Texas. He and his buddy, FBI Director Hoover, made quite a formidable corrupt political team.
Why is it that Hollywood never seems to be able to cast actors who can do a Texas accent? All of these people sound like Foghorn Leghorn or Boss Hogg.
Government by Gunplay.
saw that group play the DO DROP IN CLUB in Hackensack
Lee was headed home Thursday night the 21st to pick up some curtain rods? For his room in Dallas... that already had curtains. Lee Oswald, who didn't make enough money(by his own admission) to feed himself, was concerned about curtain rods? Oy vey. In 2063 folks will still be writing & producing ridiculous content about the murder of Jack Kennedy. Sad.
The JFK assassination is becoming a matter of lore and legend, almost a religious-like narrative. In another 200 or 300 years I can see little miniature rifles being worn around the necks of young people, and paintings on people's living room walls of "The Last Breakfast" featuring John and and Jackie Kennedy at the Hotel Texas in Fort Worth
Oswald’s character looks very much like the real Lee
Frederic Forrest played Oswald. He's a fine character actor, often playing misfits and unfortunates. He starred in a TV movie called "Larry" about a semi-fictional character who was falsely diagnosed as mentally handicapped as an infant and grew up in an institution.
Yeah, entertaining movie.
Odd, though; how they totally ignored, and left out the part where everyone at the scene ran up the grassy knoll, toward the picket fence at the rail yard, where the frontal head shot came from, huh?
Nice government portrayal….
Always had this question. OSWALD got a job at the book depository in mid October. How did he know the motorcade was going to drive past his place of work? The police changed the route a week before. This part never made any sense.
Parade route was never changed and was accurately described in several Dallas newspapers long before Nov. 22.
That was also the standard parade route through Dallas, and a concrete divider in Dealey Plaza prevents you from drifting between lanes to get to the onramp for the Stemmons Freeway to get to the Trade Mart.
And the landlady that told Oswald about the job must have been in on the assassination too.. These conspiracy freaks crack me up! 🤣🤣
It's pretty obvious.
It's pretty obvious.
Who made this film a high school student ?
iow long did Ted K wait to report CHAPPAQUIDDCK
Is punctuation illegal?
Frederic Forrest was great in "Falling Down".
In reality, Michael Lerner was 4-plus years younger than Frederic Forrest. Jack Ruby was 28 years older than Oswald.
Though it's never been confirmed, the boy in the white shirt at 30:03 in actual archived film outside Parkland Hospital may have been Marvin Lee Aday, who grew up to become the performer Meat Loaf. He has claimed he was outside Parkland while the president was in the ER. Aday's father was a Dallas police officer.
You mean the little boy crying, holding the hand kerchief? I knew he had been there but I didn’t know that was him. Loved Meatloaf.
@@kimberly1023 Yes, that is, at least reportedly, him.
meat loaf would have been 16 at the time
@@mistermattmoose He certainly looks more like he's 12 in that film.
It's not him
No "I'm just a patsy"?
" you can keep your doctor .... never inhaled .... did not have s#x with that woman "....
Conspiracy or whatever; Officer.Tippitt was an innocent victim. He was just doing his job.
Micheal Lerner was masterful as Ruby in this movie.
Who knew Judge Earl Warren was a cinematic auteur too!?!
1:27:01 onward's clip shows the courthouse scene from Nov '63 but those cars in traffic look more like models from mid to late 70s(except for maybe the Bug as they barely changed). It shows ya' they had a minimal budget in making this one. At least the Actors look very similar in appearance tho, at least IMO.
I wonder if this originally was a television movie or big screen flick of it's day?
Looks like made for tv.
thanx, Lion Heart. I had this confused w/ another film. but it was pretty good. being in jail for this crime, and not having a lawyer after a full day & 1/2. to this day, I say "huh?" he was stubborn, tho. even before cell phones, Abt could've called LHO just as quickly as now. after his on TV requests. this era was where people everywhere started to hear bad news immediately, as Tom Hagen said.
There was something to read on Oswald face when he encountered Rudy..
Some naughty little inaccuracies in this film which make it obvious propaganda.
ROBERT KKK BYRD 51 years
BIG propaganda
@@dogfather865 a masterpiece
Directed by J. Edgar Hoover, the closet transvestite.
and ya loved both him & the movie
@@jb-vb8un Wrong. I loved your mama....
@@beklerken1 🤣
Interesting that when they showed Oswalds arrest we didn't hear him say, Well it's all over now.
...very impressive !....
Women who had worked at Ruby's club (aka strippers) and swarms of others who claimed there was a Ruby/Oswald relation, were long ago outed as opportunistic attention seekers. The tall tales they told were without merit, full of contradictions, and could not be used as evidence of any kind.
Detectives never bother questioning strippers about crimes because they're not trustworthy? Interesting.
@@valentinius62 The subsequent investigations (the HSCA in particular) *_did_* indeed question the strippers in Ruby's club ('Jada' among them), and also a number of "patrons" like Beverly Oliver, who claimed to have seen Ruby & Oswald together. None of their "stories" were credible for reasons of contradicting themselves or each other, or for being at odds with established facts. In other words, these stories did not check out, were judged to be totally without merit, and easily dismissed. "Interesting" you never knew that.
@@stddisclaimer8020 Just because they chose to dismiss these reports doesn't mean they weren't true. Like it or not, those testimonies exist.
I suppose next you'll be saying that David Ferrie and Oswald didn't know each other. 🙄
Seriously, did they set up some kind of Warren Commission slush fund to pay you guys? Or do you like helping out Washington because you're convinced the country will descend into anarchy without your help?🤔
@@valentinius62 "Interesting" you still subscribe to lame conspiracy theories (like the Ruby knew Oswald biz). 60 years should be enough time to cancel your subscription....
“Tall tales” like the magic bullet theory? 😂😂
I saw this on tv when I was about 8 or 9...in the kate 70s... I also remember a lot of news about hearings that determined their was a conspiracy involved in the JFK assassination. And I also saw some news interview clips of Jim Garrison on local news.
I grew up just outside of Dallas...and remember lots of opinions being discussed about the assassination. Most of my family were ardently anti-Kennedy. So he was not considered a great loss.
Anyway.... I remember watching this, even as child... thinking I was being hit with propaganda. I had a noticeable sense of irritation watching it... but also fascination.
I've pretty much studied the topic since then. One of the best books I've read, thats seems to make the most headway towards truth, is the Skorzeny Papers.
Of course this was made by CBS
Incredibly SAD, I was in 5th grade,such TRAGEDY
3:50 "hot her again Jack I could use the bond money"? The scary thing about that statement is it's common attitude of Texans in 1963.