Btw, that’s not Porsche, that’s independent dealers of Porsche. Where I’m from, you can walk into a shop and pick one up as long as you have the money.
Oh, and I’m sure many are going to say, well, it’s not like you can get it from the official Porsche web site - yeah, sure, just like 90% of other highly demanded Porsches, same with any other luxury sports car brands.
@@tonymontana597 I’m from Russia. I’m referencing Russia before the war, as well as satellite countries such as Kazakhstan and etc. obv now it’s different specifically for Russia :(, although I live in London atm
They definitely do. People buy a ton of other Porsches, along with Porsche experience trips, trying to get in the good graces of their dealers to be able to purchase the GT3 RS at MSRP
They gain money.the cars are paid for upfront at msrp.the dealer pockets the rest.because the dealer paid sticker ur buying from the dealer not porsche.he sell u the slot to design it he paid for it
Dude Porsche knows about this, it was their idea. Lots of other manufacturers do it too. Ferrari is well known for it, as well as suing they're customers
Those are to high end brands you don’t purchase in the U.S. especially Ferrari’s. You but one of those & they still tell you what you can & can’t do to your own car smh
@@DamienKross20 Porsche doesn't care about what you do with your car. Neither does McLaren or Lamborghini. Ferrari and Bugatti do. I was referring to something else. Porsche now requires you to buy many lower end models before you could buy a higher end/exclusive model. Same as Ferrari. Lamborghini doesn't do that, for example.
Smart for the Companys like Ferrari and Porsche it makes the cars more valuable and more exclusive witch makes people want it more, and the cars aren’t made for the average people so it doesn’t really matter
@@Adam_mutthel no, it doesn't. Very flawed reasoning. They are going to make the same amount of money with these units, because the vehicle is allocated to the dealership at a pre-specified price. What drives scarcity,.which may influence rarity and desire availability, is the number of units built. That won't change either. All they are doing is squeezing owners, to get as much money as they can. Other brands don't do that. So they are "exclusive" ... 🙄 ... only for the best people ... 🧐
@@Equalizedby12 You have to pay over msrp for that, 200k USD over msrp which is nearly the same amount of money that's lost due to the depreciation of the interim cars that was bought to get an allocation for a GT3RS.
Mark mcan also made a video about how they told him to buy two taycans and two turbo s before he cam have a chance to get one , and even after he does that , it's not guaranteed
When buying a GT3 RS I don’t think you should worry about the cost but how the car performs. If you’re worrying about the cost work till you don’t have to worry about it.
My dad drove Porsche for the last 40 years and had around 12 Porsches in that time span but didn’t have any chance of getting one of these. They told him he could have the 992.2 gt3 or a gt4 but no rs
So many people get this buying a Porsche thing wrong. Porsche doesn’t care about selling cars. They do care about selling a very expensive and exclusive experience. And if you have enough money you can go for Porsche’s all-inclusive program including factory tour and delivery, shipment of your automobile to your country of residence, even shipping insurance. And don’t forget free cab fare from the airport to the Porsche factory and one hotel night is included! It’s an exclusive experience. Nothing more.
@@feederx08dude has cars worth 100x time more than a GT3. He knows what he's doing. And please if you're telling me a 911 GT3 would give better driving feel than a McLaren F1 you must be kidding yourself
@@ShogunAT3 Jay is dumb. I’ve tried McLaren and Ferrari is the best, better handling and more solid feeling. Bugatti is okay but can’t be driven often… Jay Leno is a garbage collector.
@@feederx08i mean i can see why you say that however let’s not sit here and pretend like there’s not different collectors with different taste , when you collect it’s not simply so that you can collect what everyone else wants but to collect what you find to be valuable to you , and if everyone wants it then it’s just bonus points .
@@feederx08 You know absolutely nothing about cars, Porsche beat Ferrari and McLaren on the nurburing in terms of handling and the GT3 RS sounds much better then any new Ferrari and basically any McLaren
As a company, why would they not give preferential treatment to the most loyal customers of the brand? Plenty of other customers give special treatment to loyal customers.
Half the time they promise to give you the allocation after spending 200k on other models. Then when the car comes your allocation is no where to be found. Thats 100% a scam.
Car manufacturers need to do what Tesla is doing. Sell directly to the customer and skip the dealership bs. It's a win/win. Dealers don't have to sell their cars at wholesale, and customers don't pay a dollar over sticker price.
@@fififairuzfuyoooTesla isn’t the only company laying people off. It happens all the time, in all kinds of industries. Sucks but just the way shit goes sometimes.
Most people do not realize that the most important part of having the “chance” to buy as GT3 RS is that the most important thing is to be nice to the seller, because that’s what makes him decide if it’s a Yes or a No
@@jaymac11211The viper will definitely win… If the finish line is a tree. Those two cars aren’t comparable, other than they’re both fast. Sure, some Vipers were tamed/better built for the track and performed well in racing. P.s. I’d take a “20 year old” viper in a heartbeat. I dig the hell out of them. The Porsche is definitely a better sports car, overall.
I remember when Porsche was struggling to keep the lights on. These days they’re on that Ferrari mentality thinking they’re better than the customer. “Are you qualified to buy our best sh!t?”
@@vitsadelhole you must be young, but Porsche was on the verge of bankruptcy in the early 90’s. They bet the house on the Boxster and that’s the model that saved the marque.
The USA seems to be riddled with this problem to various degrees with almost all new cars nowadays. In Aus you need to have bought several (4 or 5) new Porsches from the same dealer before being offered a position to secure a 3RS allocation. If you’re allocated a car, there is no stipulation over price - simply pay for your build spec and receive your car. While I understand 992 3RS is limited to between 4000-5000 units it’s still blasphemous that these dealerships especially in USA get away with this at increasing rates. This has got to stop
So essentially, the toxic Porsche fans who have been complaining about Ferrari have been glazing a company that does the same exact bullshit as Ferrari.
I like Porsche more than Ferrari but this predatory behavior by dealers is inexcusable and it’s price gouging. I doubt I’d ever be able to even get my dream Porsche (shark blue gt3)
@@tomw485 just saying lil bro if i had 400k laying around i wouldnt buy a fucking porsche lmao, get a sf90 for the similar money, an actual hypercar, shits so hyped online just like the supra
@@LockheedMartinF22Raptor7I wish people would stop making these stupid comments saying this. Ferrari did not sue anybody for modifying their car, they sued people for debadging the car which is not only disrespectful, but also a borderline violation of their rights for creating the car. When buying a ferrari you are forced to sign a contract, and it is blatantly written that you cannot debadge the car. It says nothing about modding it or putting ugly wide bodies on it.
just take a 911 turbo s much quicker, luxurious, comfy, cheaper and daily/grand tour worthy!! GT3 RS is tack car and very stiff and uncomfortable. how often r u gonna go on track anyways... Turbo s make much more sense
I dont know dude, how often will you use the speed from turbo s? Meanwhile gt3 rs handles like a track car and people who drive it on twisty roads absolutely fall in love with it. At least in Europe there is a lot of roads like that. I can imagine in states you drive huge distances in a straight line
tbh i love the gt3rs idek what spec id get it in but the turbo s is also better for daily use however the gt3rs is more of a weekend fun type car or to take to the track sometimes which is understandable how often id take it to the track but id still have one for the fun of it
@@TheShattanTurbo S is the better buy. I don’t care if it handles betting going around a bend at 30mph. The Turbo S is far more comfortable and luxurious.
@@jordanp1859 Yes That is what I am saying but these people just do not understand and it is not like turbo s is not good on track it beat a gt3 by 4 seconds around spa (a famous track in Belgium) in a carwow video
Pro-tip. Enjoy the car without the investment. Porsche mechanic gets to regularly drive and test the cars. Often testing to the limits of capabilities. Things that make you go hmmm.
What is an SE of GT2?! The GT2 is the SE of 911. 😂😂😂😂 Just as the GT3/RS is a SE. You're talking about a special model, but you don't even have the money for the normal 911. 😂😂😂😂😂 What are you smoking?
It isn't even a limited car and they charge $300k for it while you can't get one in the first place unless you buy all those shit macans ...... definitely not a scam lol
It's absolutely insane that the 3RS is now reselling for about what the 2RS has been reselling for since it came out a few years ago. I can only imagine what the new GT2RS will cost/resell for. 350-400k MSRP? Their cars have steadily been going way up in price. A 2012 Turbo S was about $150k give or take depending on options. A 2024 Turbo S is $250k
Gt2rs arnt selling for 200k+. Anyone can walk into a dealership and order/buy one for sticker. Over the last 6 years Porsche has been building as many of their GT cars as they can sell. They’re not rare anymore unlike the 996 gt2rs or gt3 which were built in very small numbers unlike the recent GT cars.
@@channelgg7881they dont, weve had less quality issues across 3 mclarens than one porsche. Ive spoke to plenty of other owners and the majority have had the same experience with mclarens that arent the 12c
Generally that will be decided by the dealership. Anyhow, you can get "secondhand" ones for less than the buying plan costs. If you think it's a scam, just look at an AMG 1. Less than a tenth of a second faster than the Porsche on the Nurburgring, while objectively slower on many other circuits, it's also far less reliable, and costs wayyyy more, even if the Porsche is marked up!
@@martinsuareznunez2620 You're assuming that he bought it expecting to resell. Remember resale values matter only if you intend to get rid of it. If it's a forever car, market values mean nothing!
If creating a valuable relationship means I have to shell out a large amount money before I can get the best stuff, than I'd rather not have that relationship at all. There's no human decency. It's kind of like meeting a girl for the first and she wants the pin to your bank account already.
You’re wrong on so many levels. Yes the car needs a special buyer. Porsche isn’t just going to ala carte a car for you when they don’t know you. When they sell you the car it’s sold at MSRP + options if any. Only cars sold by 3rd party dealers or resold by Porsche as a CPO (Certified Pre-Owned) can they sell it for $200,000+ MSRP. You will also be black listed from Porsche if you sell your car within a certain timeframe of ownership. So yes, Porsche will hand pick people to buy their super rare limited edition #1 demanded car in their fleet. It’s not a base 911 where anyone can buy.
@@sutherlacd27 Its porsche vip list. You are no allocated a build unless you are on the list. The dealer does not control the list, however the dealer can influence the list by providing Porsche info on the buyer and why they should be on the vip list. And the dealer can add markup on the car to the vip customer.
Price over MSRP is a US-thing. In Germany we pay MSRP. But yes, only selected long time customers get to buy one. And it’s their choice who they want to sell it to.
The R34 was an outdated boat the day it came out, the supra wasn’t even the best of its own class. I’d take the lightweight RX-7 over both those garbage ass cars. The GT3 RS has the 5th fastest time on the Nurburgring and it’s in a completely different class and galaxy than the supra and r34. Absolutely stupid comparison.
@gigachad6162 its not a comparison it's getting overhyped like the other two cars by 12 year old boys. Read a bit deeper into comments before giving a piece of your mind
@@SparklingWalrus apparently it has the 4th fastest according to wikipedia. but guess whats the 3rd fastest? AMG. and thats what I'll buy because I have done before. porsche drivers have a similar obnoxious personality and It gives the car a bad name.
Most super car manufacturers will only sell you a car if you have already bought from them. Paying 200 000 over sticker price was not true when car went on sale. It just was that good that it was in demand and limited so would increase in price due to demand and supply. That's economics 101.
Some customers get told by Porsche employees that they will 100% get the GT3 RS if you buy this, do this and all that. And in the end they don't get the car they wanted.
Gt3 rs is a monster on the track. You can’t use the car 100% in the road, but if you buy a gt3 rs, money is not the problem. You just buy this car to enjoy
Don't buy from Dealers. I got mine by walking into a shop. Dealers are pure evil. I use Dealers to try out the car I want to buy and then go elsewhere to buy it.
Stop the Cap 😂 I’m from Jamaica and the ones here you just go and buy it even if it’s your first car the markups is to cover shipping cost for independent dealers obviously
yeah!!! Turbo s gang is THE BEST!!! all smart people buy 911 Turbo s and the dumb ones end up buying gt3 or gt3rs and then realize it is too uncomfy and they ae rarely gonna go on tack anyways and realize should have bought turbo s
@@superlight1999 That is a really good car as well!! I just don't understand the hype around gt3 and gt3rs they r good but don't deserve all this hype. all other 911s are gr8 but my fav is turbo s
Except sometimes you jump through hoops, buy extra lesser models, show “loyalty” (aka give us more money), and they still don’t give you the allocations. Mark mccan made a great series on this exact thing.
It's good that Porsche doesn't sell such a power car to any mofo. Those clout chasers like the person talking on this video will never get to own this Porsche, and I'm OK with that.
The reason they do this is to ensure a balanced and uninflated secondary sale market. If I want to sell mine I have to give my dealer first right to buy it back. This is also called a relationship…. Those who are not able to declare it as unfair…. I get what I want and the dealership manages the market accordingly. Think of it as playing and trading hotwheels with a big greedy brother who still kinda likes you…. Cause you get him pop tarts and stuff while he’s playing n he d for speed… but he still wants you to buy him lunch but then gets you cool pokemon that nobody else can get…
It's not a scam. Porsche simply wants their cars to be driven and not only bought by rich people who dont care about Porsche and just let it sit in a garage as an investment.
It’s not the dealers fault, it’s the other buyers who bid up the price. The dealer knows they can get it. But because other people make the stupid decision to over pay, they pump up the market artificially. This is why the JZ Supra is $100,000, it’s also why R34 GTRs are selling for 100s of 1000s, e30 m3 is 100K and integra type Rs are 50K. None of these are are realistically worth anywhere near that. If people don’t buy it, prices will come down
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Well, the car isn’t a scam. Buying it from a stealership is. They’re the problem with any decent car coming out these days. Just marking shit up to double the price. It’s ridiculous and should be made illegal.
Dude that’s fckin cheap compared to many other countries…that thing costs more than 400k in mine, and the dealer forces customers to add their Weissach package
Even if I buy a 911 Turbo S - a better choice - dealers abuse me on service. Tried to stick with repairs I don’t need. Feel abused every time. Better off buying a top of the line Honda Civic with manual gears. Way more fun, easier to maintain.
This is only in the US , and where is porsche from.... GERMANY. its not them ,Its the single delearship that sell them like this. Any other country (other than the us) this doesn't happen since its not allowed in the law.
You don't understand why they do this The reason they do this is to avoid selling to resellers who just try to flip the cars for profit They want these cars to go to collectors. Porsches almost always appreciate in value, and resellers take advantage of this because they know people will pay no matter the price.
Subscribe if you love the GT3RS!
What I dont like is lying, misleading, misinformation videos like these.
Bro no one subscribe to that piece of hunk of junk from germany
69th like some bitch unliked
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Btw, that’s not Porsche, that’s independent dealers of Porsche.
Where I’m from, you can walk into a shop and pick one up as long as you have the money.
Oh, and I’m sure many are going to say, well, it’s not like you can get it from the official Porsche web site - yeah, sure, just like 90% of other highly demanded Porsches, same with any other luxury sports car brands.
And where are you from?
@@tonymontana597 I’m from Russia. I’m referencing Russia before the war, as well as satellite countries such as Kazakhstan and etc.
obv now it’s different specifically for Russia :(, although I live in London atm
Wow.
@@STA54662that is fucking wild man. I hope all is going well for you
I’d take a turbo s miles quicker and better for the road
I’d take a 911 turbo over the new gt3 or old 3rs but not the new 3rs
What about the regular 911 gt3 (not rs)
Is it also difficult to afford?
GT3
(original comment) so true
The current price on these things is as much as the gt2 rs
that's why pretty soon, All car makers will implement "direct sale" to consumer without any unlawful premium on top of sticker.
When?
not when this law is still in effect www.justice.gov/atr/economic-effects-state-bans-direct-manufacturer-sales-car-buyers
@@Al-ks5fhikr that sounds like a dream come true
It’s what Tesla does. Imagine how the cyber truck would be through dealers.
You’re not wrong.
911 : what's your emergency
Me : Porsche 911 is scam
Porsche should sue the piss out of their dealers for screwing there customers in this way. Porsche doesn’t gain anything from this long term
They definitely do. People buy a ton of other Porsches, along with Porsche experience trips, trying to get in the good graces of their dealers to be able to purchase the GT3 RS at MSRP
You need to buy slower cars so that you don’t get in the new car and crash. 💥🏎️
Except money………?
They gain money.the cars are paid for upfront at msrp.the dealer pockets the rest.because the dealer paid sticker ur buying from the dealer not porsche.he sell u the slot to design it he paid for it
Dude Porsche knows about this, it was their idea. Lots of other manufacturers do it too. Ferrari is well known for it, as well as suing they're customers
That's allowed in the US, but not in other countries.
Porsche learned this game from Ferrari. Shameful, really.
Those are to high end brands you don’t purchase in the U.S. especially Ferrari’s. You but one of those & they still tell you what you can & can’t do to your own car smh
@@DamienKross20 Porsche doesn't care about what you do with your car. Neither does McLaren or Lamborghini.
Ferrari and Bugatti do.
I was referring to something else. Porsche now requires you to buy many lower end models before you could buy a higher end/exclusive model. Same as Ferrari. Lamborghini doesn't do that, for example.
Smart for the Companys like Ferrari and Porsche it makes the cars more valuable and more exclusive witch makes people want it more, and the cars aren’t made for the average people so it doesn’t really matter
@@Adam_mutthel no, it doesn't. Very flawed reasoning.
They are going to make the same amount of money with these units, because the vehicle is allocated to the dealership at a pre-specified price. What drives scarcity,.which may influence rarity and desire availability, is the number of units built. That won't change either.
All they are doing is squeezing owners, to get as much money as they can.
Other brands don't do that.
So they are "exclusive" ... 🙄 ... only for the best people ... 🧐
Pretty standard practice in the UK
My kidneys: don’t even think about it
😂
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In India ,Toyota land cruiser costs more than 300,000$ 😢😢
Is this because they’re trying to protect the auto industry in India which is producing a better car than a Land Cruiser?
Simple solution: buy last years model :) plenty of options! No scam, production is low, demand is high!
@@Equalizedby12 You have to pay over msrp for that, 200k USD over msrp which is nearly the same amount of money that's lost due to the depreciation of the interim cars that was bought to get an allocation for a GT3RS.
Nah its only a scam in the us… no way a real Porsche dealer charges more than its price😂
False statement watched a video from a German guy complain about
Mark mcan also made a video about how they told him to buy two taycans and two turbo s before he cam have a chance to get one , and even after he does that , it's not guaranteed
Yep definitely world wide.
Can't let just any idiot buy your product or you'll end up like Toyota with every terrorist organization on the planet driving their vehicles
Other Porsche 911 models like Carrera and Targa wasn't a scam?
Bro just pulled this info out his rear end 🗣️🔥
When buying a GT3 RS I don’t think you should worry about the cost but how the car performs. If you’re worrying about the cost work till you don’t have to worry about it.
Saw one doing a pull while I was walking down a sidewalk, it's not a scam that thing is crazy
Doesn’t matter about a pull😂 if that’s the case then buying a top fuel dragster is the best available option and not a scam
I might love this thing more than you, but they are overpricing it and you know they will sell every single one of them
@@Messup7654 ok and?
200, $$$ over the msrp is not a scam?
You're nutz
It’s a fairly slow car for how expensive it is
Well it’s arguably their number #1 car aside from the 918
Id argue the S/T and the upcoming gt2rs will be #1/2
@@alexrennemann4788Theres a new gt2 rs coming??
@@realherobrine5636 yep. They've spotted it testing quite a bit
@@alexrennemann4788 Oh sick man
@@alexrennemann4788I agree with you there mate for me the gt3 touring just does it for me
My dad drove Porsche for the last 40 years and had around 12 Porsches in that time span but didn’t have any chance of getting one of these. They told him he could have the 992.2 gt3 or a gt4 but no rs
So many people get this buying a Porsche thing wrong. Porsche doesn’t care about selling cars. They do care about selling a very expensive and exclusive experience. And if you have enough money you can go for Porsche’s all-inclusive program including factory tour and delivery, shipment of your automobile to your country of residence, even shipping insurance. And don’t forget free cab fare from the airport to the Porsche factory and one hotel night is included! It’s an exclusive experience. Nothing more.
simple solution: don't buy lol
Broke man talking
@@andyleo8418dumb man talking
Simple solution: Don't comment if you don't like it
Buy a 918 Spyder instead
Or buy used
That’s the main reason why J Leno doesn’t buy his cars from the greedy dealerships.
Jay Lenin - a man with his priorities so far out of whack he doesn’t deserve such a fine automobile 😂
@@feederx08dude has cars worth 100x time more than a GT3. He knows what he's doing. And please if you're telling me a 911 GT3 would give better driving feel than a McLaren F1 you must be kidding yourself
@@ShogunAT3 Jay is dumb. I’ve tried McLaren and Ferrari is the best, better handling and more solid feeling. Bugatti is okay but can’t be driven often… Jay Leno is a garbage collector.
@@feederx08i mean i can see why you say that however let’s not sit here and pretend like there’s not different collectors with different taste , when you collect it’s not simply so that you can collect what everyone else wants but to collect what you find to be valuable to you , and if everyone wants it then it’s just bonus points .
@@feederx08 You know absolutely nothing about cars, Porsche beat Ferrari and McLaren on the nurburing in terms of handling and the GT3 RS sounds much better then any new Ferrari and basically any McLaren
It is good but it's rare, that's what makes people buy it.
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As a company, why would they not give preferential treatment to the most loyal customers of the brand? Plenty of other customers give special treatment to loyal customers.
Half the time they promise to give you the allocation after spending 200k on other models. Then when the car comes your allocation is no where to be found. Thats 100% a scam.
In austria you You are not allowed to buy a Ferrari unless you have the exact money for the Ferrari and around 30 to 50k extra in your account 😭💀
This is wicked work😭
@gabemorales9888 yeah bro 😭
Car manufacturers need to do what Tesla is doing. Sell directly to the customer and skip the dealership bs. It's a win/win. Dealers don't have to sell their cars at wholesale, and customers don't pay a dollar over sticker price.
I don't agree with what dealerships are doing with car prices but the last thing we need is laying off thousands of people of their jobs
@@fififairuzfuyoooAgreed
@@fififairuzfuyoooTesla isn’t the only company laying people off. It happens all the time, in all kinds of industries. Sucks but just the way shit goes sometimes.
porsche emloying ferrari business tactics is something I didn't think I'd ever see.
Most people do not realize that the most important part of having the “chance” to buy as GT3 RS is that the most important thing is to be nice to the seller, because that’s what makes him decide if it’s a Yes or a No
Tell that to any Ferrari dealer ever bud 😂😂
That will not guarantee
@@WilliamHD2 it will definitely make a big difference. If you have the money and you’re nice, you’ve got a 90% chance of getting it
Buy a 20 year old viper for 1/5 the cost and smoke any Porsche lol
@@jaymac11211The viper will definitely win… If the finish line is a tree. Those two cars aren’t comparable, other than they’re both fast. Sure, some Vipers were tamed/better built for the track and performed well in racing.
P.s. I’d take a “20 year old” viper in a heartbeat. I dig the hell out of them. The Porsche is definitely a better sports car, overall.
I remember when Porsche was struggling to keep the lights on. These days they’re on that Ferrari mentality thinking they’re better than the customer. “Are you qualified to buy our best sh!t?”
When was Porsche ever struggling to keep the lights on?
@@vitsadelhole you must be young, but Porsche was on the verge of bankruptcy in the early 90’s. They bet the house on the Boxster and that’s the model that saved the marque.
@@mr.butterworth4216 fun
@@mr.butterworth4216actually it was the Boxster AND Cayenne that saved them over the course of several years.
Na it’s about money
The USA seems to be riddled with this problem to various degrees with almost all new cars nowadays. In Aus you need to have bought several (4 or 5) new Porsches from the same dealer before being offered a position to secure a 3RS allocation. If you’re allocated a car, there is no stipulation over price - simply pay for your build spec and receive your car. While I understand 992 3RS is limited to between 4000-5000 units it’s still blasphemous that these dealerships especially in USA get away with this at increasing rates. This has got to stop
The markup for sure is a scam. The reason they want to see you've been loyal to the brand is to curb scalpers which is absolutely not a scam.
So essentially, the toxic Porsche fans who have been complaining about Ferrari have been glazing a company that does the same exact bullshit as Ferrari.
Except Porsche does not cease and desist your modified car.
I like Porsche more than Ferrari but this predatory behavior by dealers is inexcusable and it’s price gouging. I doubt I’d ever be able to even get my dream Porsche (shark blue gt3)
@@tomw485 just saying lil bro if i had 400k laying around i wouldnt buy a fucking porsche lmao, get a sf90 for the similar money, an actual hypercar, shits so hyped online just like the supra
But the problem is not the brand it's the independent dealers that are scamming
@@LockheedMartinF22Raptor7I wish people would stop making these stupid comments saying this. Ferrari did not sue anybody for modifying their car, they sued people for debadging the car which is not only disrespectful, but also a borderline violation of their rights for creating the car. When buying a ferrari you are forced to sign a contract, and it is blatantly written that you cannot debadge the car. It says nothing about modding it or putting ugly wide bodies on it.
just take a 911 turbo s much quicker, luxurious, comfy, cheaper and daily/grand tour worthy!! GT3 RS is tack car and very stiff and uncomfortable. how often r u gonna go on track anyways... Turbo s make much more sense
I dont know dude, how often will you use the speed from turbo s? Meanwhile gt3 rs handles like a track car and people who drive it on twisty roads absolutely fall in love with it. At least in Europe there is a lot of roads like that. I can imagine in states you drive huge distances in a straight line
tbh i love the gt3rs idek what spec id get it in but the turbo s is also better for daily use however the gt3rs is more of a weekend fun type car or to take to the track sometimes which is understandable how often id take it to the track but id still have one for the fun of it
If I have $300,000 to spend on a car, you bet your ass Im tracking it once per week minimum.
@@TheShattanTurbo S is the better buy. I don’t care if it handles betting going around a bend at 30mph. The Turbo S is far more comfortable and luxurious.
@@jordanp1859 Yes That is what I am saying but these people just do not understand and it is not like turbo s is not good on track it beat a gt3 by 4 seconds around spa (a famous track in Belgium) in a carwow video
Pro-tip. Enjoy the car without the investment. Porsche mechanic gets to regularly drive and test the cars. Often testing to the limits of capabilities. Things that make you go hmmm.
“Is the Porsche gt3rs really worth paying over price for it…?”
Yes it’s literally a perfect specimen
This is simply not a half million dollar car. Maybe a special edition GT2 of this generation
What is an SE of GT2?! The GT2 is the SE of 911. 😂😂😂😂
Just as the GT3/RS is a SE.
You're talking about a special model, but you don't even have the money for the normal 911. 😂😂😂😂😂
What are you smoking?
i agree, some dealers that got one are selling them for 200k over sticker which is worth around as much as a 991 GT2RS
This vehicle is a monster for those loyal customers who appreciate it. Its never a scam but a dream.
The car isn’t the scam, the dealerships sell the dream of having one and that’s the scam.
Those “loyal” customers don’t even drive the damn thing. They just keep it in the garage to collect dust as an “investment”
It isn't even a limited car and they charge $300k for it while you can't get one in the first place unless you buy all those shit macans ...... definitely not a scam lol
It's absolutely insane that the 3RS is now reselling for about what the 2RS has been reselling for since it came out a few years ago. I can only imagine what the new GT2RS will cost/resell for. 350-400k MSRP? Their cars have steadily been going way up in price. A 2012 Turbo S was about $150k give or take depending on options. A 2024 Turbo S is $250k
Rolex does the same thing. Most dealers are for "Exhibition only". They produce millions of watches.
Definitely not worth the Hype and nonsense...for that money im getting a 720s Spider
Its definetely worth it
Gt2rs arnt selling for 200k+. Anyone can walk into a dealership and order/buy one for sticker. Over the last 6 years Porsche has been building as many of their GT cars as they can sell. They’re not rare anymore unlike the 996 gt2rs or gt3 which were built in very small numbers unlike the recent GT cars.
@@WhiteOwlOnFire_XXXGo try to find a 991 gt2rs for under 200K. It’s not possible. What are you smoking?
You know that McLarens have the built quality of a toy right
@@channelgg7881they dont, weve had less quality issues across 3 mclarens than one porsche. Ive spoke to plenty of other owners and the majority have had the same experience with mclarens that arent the 12c
Bro hasnt unlocked that item yet 💀
Hahahahah that was nice😂😂
bluds mad he cant unlock it yet
Cringe
@@CrewExpendable2007 what is cringe with this comment?
@@Noobiidk He is cringe in this comment.
Generally that will be decided by the dealership. Anyhow, you can get "secondhand" ones for less than the buying plan costs. If you think it's a scam, just look at an AMG 1. Less than a tenth of a second faster than the Porsche on the Nurburgring, while objectively slower on many other circuits, it's also far less reliable, and costs wayyyy more, even if the Porsche is marked up!
Wouldn’t buy a car brand new ever in my life anyway. Worst financial decision ever.
As I own one, yes its worth the hype.
Wow do you really? That’s awesome!
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how much was it kinda annoying only ones i find are over 400k
I turned down a GT3-RS at MSRP. Took a GT4-RS allocation instead. The GT3-RS is overpriced and ridiculous for the street.
Gt4-rs resale price is horrible , the gt3 mantains his price and yeah is basó allí a 450k gt3 but is the ultimate, check the numbers
@@martinsuareznunez2620 You're assuming that he bought it expecting to resell. Remember resale values matter only if you intend to get rid of it. If it's a forever car, market values mean nothing!
@@rahulsudhir666 yeah but lots of people by porsches to flip them after 3 years , read about it , is everywhere
No you didn’t. You’re a liar
They’re both the same price. You’re a liar
is he acoustic.
the US is not the only country in the world.
also, its like ferrari. honoring, and creating valuable relationships with customers
If creating a valuable relationship means I have to shell out a large amount money before I can get the best stuff, than I'd rather not have that relationship at all. There's no human decency. It's kind of like meeting a girl for the first and she wants the pin to your bank account already.
Scam is what bad customers do, buying and selling overvalued to customer willing to cut the line. They are just flipping the flippers.
That car is stunning
You’re wrong on so many levels. Yes the car needs a special buyer. Porsche isn’t just going to ala carte a car for you when they don’t know you. When they sell you the car it’s sold at MSRP + options if any. Only cars sold by 3rd party dealers or resold by Porsche as a CPO (Certified Pre-Owned) can they sell it for $200,000+ MSRP. You will also be black listed from Porsche if you sell your car within a certain timeframe of ownership. So yes, Porsche will hand pick people to buy their super rare limited edition #1 demanded car in their fleet. It’s not a base 911 where anyone can buy.
its not rare, they can make as many as they like, its downright thievery. made out to be exclusive to generate more interest.
Why does porsche needs to know the customer, selling a car is not personal, it's business 🎉
Porsche doesn't require prior ownership or purchasing of other vehicles prior to getting a gt3RS. It's dealerships doing that.
@@sutherlacd27 Its porsche vip list. You are no allocated a build unless you are on the list. The dealer does not control the list, however the dealer can influence the list by providing Porsche info on the buyer and why they should be on the vip list.
And the dealer can add markup on the car to the vip customer.
Can't let just any idiot buy your product or you'll end up like Toyota with every terrorist organization on the planet driving their vehicles
Maybe dont buy from some Independent Dealers. Go to Porsche directly and order one. Greetings from Zuffenhausen....
Price over MSRP is a US-thing.
In Germany we pay MSRP.
But yes, only selected long time customers get to buy one. And it’s their choice who they want to sell it to.
lol it’s the exact same in uk and uae
This guy is lying you have to pay $200,000 over msrp if you don’t get a allotment and you want to just buy one. If you get a allotment you pay MSRP
So he's right anyway
@@superlight1999no because he is making it seem that it’s impossible to get MSRP when it is possible.
so... you need yo buy more cars to have Msrp?
@@WheelieMediabasically same result.
But to get an allocation you have to spend 200k on other models you most likely do not need and will lose 50% of their value in less than 2 years
I'm afraid the gt3 rs is getting the supra and gtr34 treatment
German automotive in general is getting that treatment, especially Porsche and the Audi RS6
The R34 was an outdated boat the day it came out, the supra wasn’t even the best of its own class. I’d take the lightweight RX-7 over both those garbage ass cars. The GT3 RS has the 5th fastest time on the Nurburgring and it’s in a completely different class and galaxy than the supra and r34. Absolutely stupid comparison.
@gigachad6162 its not a comparison it's getting overhyped like the other two cars by 12 year old boys.
Read a bit deeper into comments before giving a piece of your mind
fax, the GT3RS might be fast but it is overrated@@lilgooseyvert
@@SparklingWalrus apparently it has the 4th fastest according to wikipedia. but guess whats the 3rd fastest? AMG. and thats what I'll buy because I have done before. porsche drivers have a similar obnoxious personality and It gives the car a bad name.
I would rather take a stock 911 and pay $200k to a reputable car customization shop to build a better, truly one of a kind Porsche.
Most super car manufacturers will only sell you a car if you have already bought from them. Paying 200 000 over sticker price was not true when car went on sale. It just was that good that it was in demand and limited so would increase in price due to demand and supply. That's economics 101.
What part is the scam???
Some customers get told by Porsche employees that they will 100% get the GT3 RS if you buy this, do this and all that. And in the end they don't get the car they wanted.
200K over sticker price. Car dealerships are an organized racket. It’s anti-American to not be able to buy cars straight from the manufacturer.
They should have gotten it in writing.@@zygis1819
@@jsilva7005Bro what are talking about "Anti-American" What?!
@@jsilva7005i got mine at sticker and skipped the whole line due too my connections so not everyone is getting scammed
Well done Porsche!
Keeping the social media idiots with money far away from their cars for longer
No those guys can just pay the aftermarket price which is 400-500k. Not worth it at all though loo
Scams aren’t buying rare cars… what a joke
Gt3 rs is a monster on the track. You can’t use the car 100% in the road, but if you buy a gt3 rs, money is not the problem. You just buy this car to enjoy
No it’s not worth it at all. A C6 ZR-1 or C7 Z-06 would beat it those each costing just over $100,000
Nah it's track focused but too overpriced
Least delusional corvette/american fan
@@AB-fr2ei Bruv, I’m just stating facts. It’s really sad that the GT3RS got ruined by the internet. Such a beautiful car.
@@A-bombSnowman A C6/C7 ZR1 will never beat a 992 GT3 RS wheter its lap times or 0-100 times
@@AB-fr2ei I suppose it is lighter but has a lot less hp. But for the price, me personally, I’d go with a vette.
Don't buy from Dealers. I got mine by walking into a shop. Dealers are pure evil. I use Dealers to try out the car I want to buy and then go elsewhere to buy it.
This is the dumbest statement I have ever seen.
@@highlifehaggs1514 😂
The reason is that all of those rappers dont ruin the brand. That happened to Lambo.
Ah yes, it's a scam coming directly from Porsche and not the horrible dealership tactics to make profits.
“If you’re broke just say that 🙄”
This coment will be lost in the bast universe
i spotted it
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Stop the Cap 😂 I’m from Jamaica and the ones here you just go and buy it even if it’s your first car the markups is to cover shipping cost for independent dealers obviously
No one would buy a NA GT3RS when the Turbo is so much better!!!
yeah!!! Turbo s gang is THE BEST!!! all smart people buy 911 Turbo s and the dumb ones end up buying gt3 or gt3rs and then realize it is too uncomfy and they ae rarely gonna go on tack anyways and realize should have bought turbo s
No GTS gang here?
@@superlight1999 That is a really good car as well!! I just don't understand the hype around gt3 and gt3rs they r good but don't deserve all this hype. all other 911s are gr8 but my fav is turbo s
It's not a scam, it's a reward for loyalty lol
Except sometimes you jump through hoops, buy extra lesser models, show “loyalty” (aka give us more money), and they still don’t give you the allocations. Mark mccan made a great series on this exact thing.
It’s not a scam, it’s because Porsche don’t want people reselling
It's good that Porsche doesn't sell such a power car to any mofo. Those clout chasers like the person talking on this video will never get to own this Porsche, and I'm OK with that.
you have issues lol
Literally anyone with the money can buy Turbo S with 125hp more power. Yeah..
All that for a GT-R to sweep you
I mean, it’s their price and they have the right to decide.
Not Porsche and not a scam.Dealerships give it to loyal customers of their dealerships.
Nah bruv, there's a missing piece cuz some billionaires in my city have both GT3RS and GT2RS with no other porsches in their garage
Same here too
If I was someone that’s had one Porsche for a long time I wouldn’t just want everybody getting one.
The reason they do this is to ensure a balanced and uninflated secondary sale market.
If I want to sell mine I have to give my dealer first right to buy it back.
This is also called a relationship….
Those who are not able to declare it as unfair…. I get what I want and the dealership manages the market accordingly. Think of it as playing and trading hotwheels with a big greedy brother who still kinda likes you…. Cause you get him pop tarts and stuff while he’s playing n he d for speed… but he still wants you to buy him lunch but then gets you cool pokemon that nobody else can get…
$ 200 000 over sticker price is insane 😅
It's not a scam. Porsche simply wants their cars to be driven and not only bought by rich people who dont care about Porsche and just let it sit in a garage as an investment.
It’s not the dealers fault, it’s the other buyers who bid up the price. The dealer knows they can get it. But because other people make the stupid decision to over pay, they pump up the market artificially. This is why the JZ Supra is $100,000, it’s also why R34 GTRs are selling for 100s of 1000s, e30 m3 is 100K and integra type Rs are 50K. None of these are are realistically worth anywhere near that. If people don’t buy it, prices will come down
How did Matt Watson manage to snag one? I'm not entirely sure about his Porsche collection, but I believe he simply strolled in and made the purchase.
If you buy an allocation you pay list price. If you’re so impatient that you go into a dealership and buy one, that’s on you.
They are doing it like Ferrari because it works! Keeps residuals up
My buddy straight up bought one just from Porsche, he traded his 911 gt3 for it but as far as I know he said no problems.
the problem i’ve seen with my local porsche dealership is that they want $500-600k for a $300k car. Those are SVJ prices…
Its not a scam. its to keep exclusivity. Do your research
100% a scam
I owned a 911 years ago. A very nice quick good handling car. Not my bag anymore.
Definitely worth it !
My favorite cwr
No car is worth over sticker. Literally the manufacturer said so. Paying more is just you being willing to be a victim.
the GTS literally 100k less with the same engine and horsepower. deadass not even worth it unless you want to spend 100k for a spoiler
Missleading. You can't buy it from the factory, but you can buy it at 250k from normal dealers
Why do American dealers charge above MRP for cars AND get away with it?!
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You only have to pay $200k over if you decide you just want one. Don’t have to go through the process if you’re willing to pay $200k over
Well, the car isn’t a scam. Buying it from a stealership is. They’re the problem with any decent car coming out these days. Just marking shit up to double the price. It’s ridiculous and should be made illegal.
Dude that’s fckin cheap compared to many other countries…that thing costs more than 400k in mine, and the dealer forces customers to add their Weissach package
Work for Porsche in the UK as a sale executive and i can confirm this short is utter nonsense.
What about Mark McCann's videos?
Even if I buy a 911 Turbo S - a better choice - dealers abuse me on service. Tried to stick with repairs I don’t need. Feel abused every time. Better off buying a top of the line Honda Civic with manual gears. Way more fun, easier to maintain.
This is only in the US , and where is porsche from.... GERMANY. its not them ,Its the single delearship that sell them like this. Any other country (other than the us) this doesn't happen since its not allowed in the law.
A base model 911 with a twin turbos and a tune will blow doors off any GT Porsche models. Its also a cheaper car to own.
You don't understand why they do this
The reason they do this is to avoid selling to resellers who just try to flip the cars for profit
They want these cars to go to collectors.
Porsches almost always appreciate in value, and resellers take advantage of this because they know people will pay no matter the price.
Porsche isn't about that, it's about engineering masterpiece.
Prince of a used 2024 GT3 RS in 6 years : $750k
literally no point in buying this unless you want to use it on the track