MILLENNIAL'S TALKING COLORISM: DOES SKIN TONE REALLY MATTER?
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I noticed that almost all the pretty dark skinned girls at my college were with white European men or white American men. I now understand why. In their own communities they get treated like second class citizens. They might as well date someone of a different race because its not like black love is positive or affirming for them,
You're a bitter, dark skin female.
How is it bitter to call out black men for not being loyal? Maybe if every other song weren't about red bones and white women, black women wouldn't want to get the hell away from the toxic energy.
Claire H No one talks about white women or red bones more than dark skin women. You're obsessed.
I can tell you're a troll. Lil Wayne, The Weekend, Kodak Black, Donald Glover, are just a few black men who have written about light skinned women / white women or publicly said black women or dark skin women are not beautiful. It happens, its fucked up and black women are sick of it. If black men don't want to respect us then we will open our dating options to everyone not just them.
Claire H I totally agree with you. You’re right. Have you ever watched Chrissies channel here on CZcams? It would confirm some of the points you’re making.
All of these young black people are great-looking.
But I must say that dark-skinned sista is GAWJUS!!
Kory Kent Yes she is 😍
She really is.
They’re all “GAWJUS”.🙄
real shit :-*
they usuallyintentionally choose an ugly dark skinned girl...instead of uglylight skinned girls lolol they kept it...accurate :)
Dark skin men have never not been in. I hear black men say that black women prefer lighter skin men but I don't hear black women overwhelmingly say they prefer light skin men. Most black women I know prefer dark skin men.
U say real black men so what are light skin mixed women? Bingo my point you black men chase after black girls who don’t look black or mixed because y’all don’t consider them “ too black “ they don’t look like the real black women. That’s the look y’all go for closer to white the better
xshesyourqorqeousxx3 Its because dark skin is what many grew up with!
i like what i grew up with...caramel to dark
xshesyourqorqeousxx3 @ you are right black woman don’t openly say that they don’t like or prefer a dark skin man, they actions show when they don’t date you and all the guys they date are medium brown to light skin. What you would normally hear is “ I love dark skin men but the guy I’m with now is light “, like really...
Tanecia Moniqué Shoot! Dark chocolate and caramel is ALL i look at !👀
I don't understand why some people think lighter skin makes you better than a darker skinned person. I "appreciate brown skin".
It doesn't matter what your skin colour, there's no excuse for ignorance.
I, honestly, just want a decent human being, who won't hurt me & who will treat me right.
Demi Schae majority of melinated people don't think that.we just pushing an unnecessary agenda
You’re a female and light skin so I think u may be attracted to darker males which is why u feel that way most black males dark skin and repulsed by their own skin tones on women
Ebony May no we are not😂😂😂😂most black men are with black women.
blame urself for not being able to get n keep a black man
I have one and I have no issue getting a black man a white man an Asian man etc. but I have noticed favoritism and discrimination over skin tone. “ you’re pretty for a dark skin girl , I don’t usually go after those “ is not a compliment it’s not a preference it’s really ignorance I’m pretty dispite your blackness is a straight up insult coming from a black man. So yes they are repulsed by dark skin
2ND BLOCK 66 A.W.O.L But it does become a noticeable problem when lots of dark skin women get together and reiterate the same sentiments being expressed by these men. You seem to want to brush the problem under the table.
The girl in the yellow is so right when she said that accepting dark skin is a trend. I couldn't agree more.
again she is soo right at 8:59 wondering if he even dates dark girls before getting interested.
The natural sister is also right about the wakanda princess Shea comments LMAO!!
Subbing to your channel!
Haya Glamazon I learned more than I thought I would lol. Had no idea women thought about things like that. Thank you for subscribing and watching!!
It was awesome, make other roundtables like this, very unique! I totally agree with the girls you chose and they were very eloquent in how they spoke.
Haya Glamazon yes I was over here clapping
These actors don't want to lose their main fan bases. They know black women are the ones rushing to movie theaters. They especially can't say they prefer light skinned women trying to promote their next psycho thriller. Seems like those have been a trend the past two years or so.
So true, unfortunately it's a trend, it's not genuine acceptance
The sad thing is the dark skin girl is beautiful...its sad that shes made to feel otherwise
Ruth O ....the irony...the dark skinned young lady is beautiful! 🤷🏾♀️
yas the dark skinned girl is the best looking person in the whole video so bomb !
Ruth O ... yes. All three are beautiful but she is like *really* pretty. If she were lighter skinned she'd get more praise for her beauty and that's really really sad. All these young people in this video (guys and girls) are gorgeous tho.
Yeah she very beautiful
They ALL are beautiful.🙄 This is why people don’t take colorism serious, because y’all want false preference over everyone else...., when in fact y’all should’ve just said she’s just as beautiful as the other women, that’s more accurate and truthful, but I understand your bias.....
I feel like the brown skinned guy in the middle does not know of any black women
Respectfully I disagree. What I've learned from participating in conversations like this is that the conversation becomes more desirable to watch and/or listen to, when there is someone that plays the role of devil's advocate. I will assure you I do know black women, as I was raised by 4 women and my Grandfather. Please continue to share your thoughts and opinions on the topic and encourage your friends to do the same! That is the only way we can move change the paradigm of colorism :)
Stay Jotivated, LLC I'm not a fan of devils advocate.. I like truth. I saw that I and felt it is counterproductive and wasn't a real window to how you truly felt.
Define What's Next?! I can respect that. I'll make sure i do that the next time. Just make sure you subscribe 😅
Define What's Next?! 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
Define What's Next?! What you mean he does not know of any black women? He's a black man of course he knows black women.
How could a light skin person not feel superior watching that guy and girl fight over the right to prefer light skin? Ya'll feed egos and get mad at the arrogance. Smh
I don't know if they were fighting per se but I think it's part of dismantling colourism. If a light skinned person feels superior after watching this, I'd kind of think they have more problems than the people in the video. It's a discussion.
Haya Glamazon I think my point is going over your head because you weren't paying attention to the same thing . The guy was desperately trying to point out black womens' hypocrisy and how black women like light skin men, so let him/black men prefer light skin women. At the end of the day, it's two people fighting for their right to chase light skin.
Barbara Gordon I read your whole comment, so have a drink and relax, you don't need to be so stressed out over someone responding to your basic comment. You seem triggered over a relaxed group of brothers and sisters having a fun conversation. Peace.
Haya Glamazon Don't be that combative black woman. Have a conversation like an adult. Smh
PRINCESS IBEABUCHI You said it better than I did. Thank you!
The guy with the hat is in denial about the double standards. Black women and men get comments when they make some idiotic announcement about not liking dark skin,the biggest difference is that men will agree more with the guy where as the women would get more flack from both genders about it. The proof is in social media and our music
Samantha Epps you can't waste your time trying to reason with black men like that. Men like him love to make false equivalencies and deny deny deny
I agree. He''s the only brother in the group who seemed to have a bit of a chip on his shoulder.
Samantha Epps can we just like who we like ? As a light skinned person i get extremely offended. When men can’t be attracted to us. I deserve love to. I deserve to get compliments regardless of a dark skinned person feeling insecure. That’s not my problem. And men have never treated me right ANYWAY
Azure Harris I don't see why you took it so personal. My comment was in regards of the false equivalance some black people have in regards to another black person stating they don't like dark skin in a disrespectful way and and try to paint dark skin women in particular as jealous and bitter. Anyone with common sense can see how disingenuous their "preference" is when they broadly paint everyone that fails the paper bag test as masculine, rachet, etc when all of those bad qualities can and do exist in people that aren't dark.
PRINCESS IBEABUCHI lets not forget the supposed " Queen" beyonce. second none of these men on this panel exude or express any real manhood that i would want handsome dark one entrepreneur and all.
The most deeply complected chick is keeping it 100.
Caren Gaskins because she knows what it is. Colorism is very real.
It's not that men can't have a preference it's just that MOST times when men (especially black men) do name their preference it always comes with excluding another shade in that same thought. Nobody is mad at men having preferences because women have them also but, when you exclude an entire shade/color then it becomes a problem.
Lol just admit that it's always a problem when black men have preferences. And it's only black men, not white men, not black women, or white women. You are mad when men have preferences and you don't care if women have them to. What you want is to have your preferences while black men are expected to only ever consider dark skin women. That's what you want. Just admit that.
But why should men have to be dark? What about cute light men? Why do women have to be light? And why do they have to be short? Everyone has a different preference that doesn't fit into a "mould", like some like vanilla ice cream (most popular flavor), but not everyone, some like chocolate, strawberry, pistachio, or sorbet. We have diverse tastes, so you shouldn't generalize the entire population as liking only one standard promoted by the media.
Flitzen the Deer You missed the point.
N.W.A. Why can't you see the point she's trying to make? She's saying that black men can have light women and white women. Just don't talk shit about black woman. Period.
Exactly. A preference isn't "excluding one or the other" it's if you had to choose and had know other knowledge of that person which would you pick. Obviously personality and deeper characteristics should play a part tho.
The young lady with the red jacket is so right! Listen to her 💯 Black people have forgotten what our goals are.
What is our goals
polite A building and strength ening our community.
She also made an excellent point about visualizing the dream girl...she is likely going to be fairer skinned with a mixed passing phenotype...that is propped up in the black community.
She talked about feeling invisible being a dark skinned girl. Talk about being a black woman of any shade with no big booty. Lol That's a whole nother topic!
girl yasss u invisible for sure at a hbcu if u aint got a fatty back there
Exactly. You're out of topic.
KD I don't need a parrot to repeat what I said. Thank you and goodbye!
Sydney Lett well, I'd be that girl. At least I could say I was truly down there for my studies lol
aGwEENapple yeah a fat ass count I can't lie, but can you imagine picking a sista's up like your size an walking around with her an her arms wrapped around my neck and shoulders, amazing beat a far ass to me anyway! Lol
Call a "brown" skinned girl dark skinned, prepare to get your face scratched off. I haven't heard the term "brown" skinned until the past 2-3 years. Somehow in a conversation with someone else skin color was brought up. I just didn't know it was offensive to be darker skinned. And also, we're all on a spectrum of brown. It makes my head hurt! Lots of pain.
Exactly!
It isn’t but it’s like stop simplifying us we are the most genetically diverse people on earth. When we can’t accept all of us across the spectrum establish that it’s not just “light” vs “dark” problems ensue we deserve to be equivocally represented in all of our diversity as any other race. You’re brown skinned you’re god damn self you aren’t Lupita your god damn self like girl boooooooooo.
IfYouReadThisUsernameYouSmellLikeAButt go booooo somewhere else. The girl that flipped, and I say flipped because it wasn't that damn serious is quite a few shades DARKER than me. And guess what? There's nothing wrong with it! And btw I'm definitely Angela Simmons shade. Nothing wrong with embracing how different we are but no reason to flip like a nutcase! Have a great daya
The term “brown skin” has been around for decades. India Arie even has a song from 2002 called “Brown Skin”. I just let people call themselves whatever they want. 🤷🏽♀️
Porchea-Londone Miranda that's cool but there wasn't any need for hostility
11:21 so he's basically complaining about being treated just like a humain being without biais from his skin colour.
Because he wishes he could be called "caramel"..ok!
Bitch made..
What I found very interesting about this conversation just looking at The visual dynamic is, I don't know if it was edited out or you know just disregarded but not one of those guys got up and let those young ladies take a proper seat. And it's little things like that that showcase the state and differences of how we have been taught from the past into the future. Essentially the fact that a man would not give up his seat to make a woman comfortable during a conversations shows lack of Preparation and general respect. Although I using this as an example. My intention is to highlight 2 things 1. Black woman fights so hard to be acknowledged and appreciated that she has kinda decided to stop asking for respect in those areas that are considered small where we have been conditioned to just let it go. This activity is the reason why we feel so passed over ..because we feel I should not have to tell a man that I need an appropriate place to sit. 2. Because we have allowed ourselves to be conditioned and do not show or demonstrate that for ourselves with small gestures to stand until addressed properly..the cycle continues. People of color both men and woman struggled with colorism and racism daily.. I think the key to change is not forgetting the small things and what our elders taught about respect. and showing at every chance we get. Iron sharpens iron...I know that this topic introduces the topic of up-bringing. But perhaps showing actions like the description given will help. Social media platforms like this help get the conversation started and can help demonstrate positive reinforcement of how our we can take care of each other. Yo Sweat The Small Things ..They matter!😎
Very good observation. It's like how we treat our community -- no respect or customer service. But how quickly we change our tune when it's a white person. We need to start with respecting ourselves, our men, women and children first. Common courtesy with each other and also giving each other as they say in Jamaica -- a bli, or favors so that we can support our community and help each other get a leg up. We all know it's not way making it as a black person.
This is a good healthy topic that’s extremely necessary happening amongst the community. This outlet is amazing man! Keep it going.
Why is people skin color even a problem like serious this world is messed up 🤦♀️🤦♀️
I couldn’t even watch this...I hate that we are still having these conversations, knowing the history of where it came from.
Back then blacks had a problem being accepted by white people. Now we are having problems being accepted by each other , and that's not ok. We need to be discussing this problems so we can know how to solve it
People are so stupid, right?They are all damn black, you are all black, so what is the issue?
No. We need to be having these conversations because colourism is real. Times are changing for sure, but that is BECAUSE we are talking about it. Colourism has been around since the beginning of time, it transcends culture and geography (largely associated with African culture, but also very present in others eg East Asian and other Asian cultures), it is a sociocultural and historical fact. Growing up as a dark-skinned black woman I went through things mentally that I didn’t understand, and I struggled because there was no one around willing or able to talk about it. Colourism is alive and kicking and if we don’t talk about it, we allow its implicit perpetuation. Unlike general racism, colourism is absolutely something that can be largely addressed WITHIN our community. Why try and silence this conversation?
Then YOU don't Know the history. Everything didn't start from slavery
Then your CZcams name is CARAMEL? BITCH you got nerve. U seem to deny your blackness anyway
colourism occurs in alot of other cultures too..most of the ignorant comments are perpetuated by ppl of our own race
The thing I hate is that when black men(or men in general) will talk about how they don’t like light skins. Then they stop there. Or they say they don’t like brown skins .Then they stop talking ...BUT then when it comes to them saying they don’t like darkskins they always have to add something rude to it. Like if you don’t like darkskin women just say that and keep it going.
Right, like they have 50,000 things to say about why they dislike darkskin girls, but can't ever really thoroughly explain why they dislike lightskin girls, if they do.
TheDiamondsAesthetic Exactly!
I’m having a hard time following the guy with the hat. It’s not a competition in misery. To acknowledge the pain of others doesn’t erase yours. It’s like he just wanted to argue just to argue.
I dislike that he's genuinely believing his crap and had the audacity to say if a black woman announced she's not dating darkskin men anymore that she'd get away with it. Um, as if! She'd get dragged by black men for DAYS on end! She'd get called all types of bedwenches and whatnot. He's delusional. Black men get defended by other black men AND often times by some black women when they announce their disdain for darkskin women, but darkskin don't get that same luxury of defense, even when so much as simply explaining their colorism plight.
The darker you the more you are judged! Smh! Fact of the matter we still black!
i love the dark skinned girl she is sooooo sooo pretty ! and has alot of answers that i agree on
The guy in the middle is a prime example of the dishonesty black women face from black men on the topic of colorism. It is black men who think and speak like him whom are the main perpetrators of colorism in the black community.
The guy who thinks he's light skin really irritated my time
self love is important. smh
Opinions, Facts And Logic word like wtf , the light skin guy IS light skin
think they meant the guy who called himself 'brown skinned' in the middle
Fadzaai C dark ppl always say they brown 🤣.
Brooke Bee so true
Brooke Bee Not me! I'm a chocolate drop but wish I was darker.
Make a list of black male celebrities with dark skinned wives? I promise for every dark skin woman, you can list 20 light skinned. They didn't really address how dark skinned men are perceived differently as far as being attractive compared to a dark skinned woman.
It’s crazy how y’all will act like dark skin men don’t experiment colorism as well
listen, colorism is a symtom of racism. No way to get rid of colorism as long as racism exists.
L * I've been saying this !
And racism is a symptom of tribalism
Kush and tribalism is historically a way of ensuring survival of ones tribe. So sadly there is no way that racism will ever disappear.
I strongly disagree
None of these people are what I call light skinned. Besides black is black. Fashion Fair had cosmetics for us all.
At the end of the day we are People of Color we come in many Shades and Hues of Melanin/Brown Skin
Jesus H Christ, the entire comment section is just everyone calling everyone darker than what they are. Black people really just set the bar at whatever their own skin tone is lol
Kory Kent They’re all dark and brown skinned with slight variations.
The Gina vs Pam wasn’t a good argument bc within colorism u have negative stigmas. The fact the lighter was calmer n the darker was being extra is an example of colorism in itself.
Jaylah Bailey yea but Hilary from fresh prince was stuck up so it's not always in the light girls favor
honey caramel as a light skinned girl I agree. I never considered myself the pretty light skinned girl Hiliary was and a lot of it when younger had to do with her “pretty hair”. This stigma btwn light n dark girls runs deep and the media doesn’t help n that’s the point that I was making. I also remember hiliary not being so smart but still having advantages lol didn’t she do the weather or some dumb shit she wasn’t even a meteorologist....I mean btwn the Cosby n a different world didn’t play that shit with their characters Whitley had to work just as hard as the rest. I have always felt bad for the stigma placed upon dark skinned girls bc my sister is you know “pretty for a dark skinned girl “ n I wonder sometimes if the negative attitude I find in dark toned women is bc of yrs of abuse (not all).
I find the perspective of you younger folks very interesting. My granny from Alabama, used to say that when she was growing up in the 1920's, it was far better to be Brown. Light skin meant that either the man could not protect the women in his family from being taken advantage of by White men, or the woman had low morals willing to have sex with White men unwilling to marry them. And too dark made the White folks nervous, like you had just gotten off a slave ship & were unruly and or violent. At the same time, the men in my family were encouraged to marry lighter than them, but still in the race. My granny was really pissed when my dad brought my mom home. She had never SEEN a Puerto Rican, she just knew Maria wasn't Black, but I was raised to be pro Black. Trippy.
Some blacks are even confused about their skin tones, because both of the females on the end were darkskinned, the girl in the middle was a medium brown! Light brown is like actresses queen latifah, taraji p.henson, toni braxton, tyra banks, nikki minaj, then your medium browns are nia long, meagan goode, mary j. Blige, then dark browns are gabrielle union, kelly rowland, amara le negra, then extreme dark like black is lupita, supermodel alek wek, truthfully your light brown is dark red, like amost light skin, so its considered light complexion!!!!!!
My take on the dude in the middles statement about double standard is that it’s not the same, if a black women says she’s done dating black men I wouldn’t be upset with her because TODAY I don’t blame her like I could see if BM had a good track record (of protecting their women, honoring them, not degrading them, not disrespecting them) then I would be like whaaat sis?!?, but y’all don’t TODAY. So I wouldn’t blame her, which on the other hand black men have that, black women always have the black mans back no matter what. No matter what he does and what he says, so for So many BM to be so comfortable being colorist and degrading black women and hating black women. It’s like what?!? So if a BW does say that I would assume that would be the reason or I wouldn’t blame her because look at BM’s track record of TODAY. That’s just my opinion.
That guy isn't light skinned he is brown skinned.
Eyana Nichols Blake Lmao at anybody thinking anyone here is light skin😂
Gshit,dude like half a shade lighter than the dude with the snapback😂😂
I wonder if the issues of colorism "goes away" when a person gets married. As a married woman, I don't concern myself with light skin/dark skin dating issues. I'm married to a dark skinned black man too. I also understand that all of the colorism issues aren't just with dating so, it would be interesting to hear from married couples who still feel like they experience colorism.
The sad part is that we have to have this conversation.
I lovee how he said "dark and lovely"
The music is so distracting. Its like soft core porn. Not necessary during a conversation like this.
Wouldn't say porn lol... But yh it's a bit unnecessary and is making me feel like I have to listen really carefully
Yah Girl u trippin...i didnt even notice the muisc until i saw ur comment..plus its relaxin..ur mind is totally in the gutter. Its jus a nice chill song.
Maybe the music toned down later into the video. I stopped watching after a few minutes.
The music is definitely not a good choice
Yah Girl lmao this comment killed me
objectively, the dark skinned girl is the most gorgeous one on the panel. no shade.
The cutest guy to me was the chocolate brother with the red shirt😍😍😍 That melanin was poppin!!!!!
I grew up in the 80,s and early 90,s. My generation created hip hop. We had so much dark skin representation in the media I was unaffected by colorism. We had shows like “good times, what’s happening, The Jefferson’s, the Cosby show, Steve Harvey show, the fresh prince, Martin, DL hugely, Moesha, The Parker’s, and 227” just to name a few which all had dark skin leading women or representation of dark skin women. Most of the best R&B singers were dark skin and just about all the female rappers were dark skin. So this concept of colorism was never an issue for me. When I look at the best female actress. I’ve lived and worked in 8 states. I’ve been married and engaged more than once. I also think that I am a very average looking dark skin woman with long get black hair. I never felt colorism. In this generation it may be a thing. Black men who dated outside their race back the. Didn’t bash sisters the way this generation does. We lived through the discovery of HIV and the crack error. We still had leaders who supported the Black community when there were injustices. Watching this makes me so grateful that I grew up during a time when you saw dark skin people everyday on TV.
Michelle Rowe-smith Black men don't bash black women. Stop saying that stupidly false shit. If black women want to date white guys, or are angry that the cute guy in high school didn't date them, just say that. You don't need to make up shit about black men like you're a white supremacist in training.
N.W.A. They do do that. Not all, of them but it happens because of some of them. Sorry, you miss it.
We need to be having these conversations because colourism is real. Times are changing for sure, but that is BECAUSE we are talking about it. Colourism has been around since the beginning of time, it transcends culture and geography (largely associated with African culture, but also very present in others e.g. East Asian and other Asian cultures), it is a sociocultural and historical fact. As a dark-skinned black woman I mentally went through things, growing up, that I didn’t understand, and I struggled because there was no one around willing or able to talk about it. Colourism is alive and kicking and if we don’t talk about it, we allow its implicit perpetuation. Unlike general racism, colourism is absolutely something that can be largely addressed WITHIN our community. People in these comments that imply that this conversation shouldn't be occurring are trying to silence a very important conversation. What is the point in pretending colourism does not exist?
I don’t understand why people think that if you are from Africa you are automatically dark skin 🤷🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
I think this is more of an issue in places that are predominantly black. In places where black communities are small, it's not such a big divide. The attitude is if you're black, you're black no matter your shade.
This happens in small towns too
It’s also in our black celebrities too. In woman, Beyoncé got lighter over time which I didn’t like bc back in her old days she had more brown and she was looking like sexy brown sugar and Nicki Minaj is another one that got lighter too. Woman like Lupita and Micheal B.Jordan are just now surfacing more.
None of dark skinned Vs light skinned would matter if a race war broke out. Black is black in all our various shades. Embrace, love, and nurture all our beautiful shades. It may not be reality, but it’s an achievable goal.
We all black, and don’t let nobody tell you any differently.
This is so oddly done - Fake intellectual discussion - Being in front of the camera is a hell of a drug
I am feeling this channel 🙂 I like hearing how people feel about these type of topics .. gives an insight.
I've never felt like I was light skinned, but I've been called light so much since Trump has been in office. I think people are doing the paper bag test in their heads and that is sad. I am simply human. My color should not matter, but since it does I love my blackness and preach positively about it daily. My family is a rainbow but we were never raised to think that means anything other than that is a different person than you & we all bleed the same. We all put on our clothes the same and no one is better than me because of their race or shade.
Sadly a lot of dishonesty on the men’s side. Typical colorism conversation. The interviewer asked the right questions, just dishonest answers.
White headband lets get married...the girl talking about the paper bag test was unnecessary and dumb
Daja Hardt 😂😂 I’ll put in a good word for you. And nooooo she just framed her responses in a light hearted way but made some really good points.
Yesss! He’s soooo sexy!
The question is: Does he want to marry you? I agree that the guys and girls here made very valid points. I would have liked to see this discussed, however... That is, why do black men of darker hues prefer women who look NOTHING like themselves and vice versa (women of certain hues)... What other race of men around the world [Asian, White (blonde, brunette, and red-haired), and Latino] have the reputation of "preferring" women that look NOTHING LIKE THEM, THEIR MOTHERS, THEIR SISTERS, or (close to) etcetera? I'll wait. Men of darker hues simply need to admit the fact that they are the only group of men (as a collective) in the world (statistically) that prefer women who look NOTHING like the woman who birthed them, assisted them in life. That is in fact how nations (ethnic groups and cultures) are built. By men making their selections based on preference, next making a proposal to the women they have selected, then women following suit and agreeing to said proposal, lastly the two procreating. To change the narrative, we can ask why that is (BM of darker hues not "preferring" women who are their counter image? There is nothing wrong with having a preference. But the broader and more direct question is why black men of darker hues, by in large, initiate the preference for women who look NOTHING like them? I also understand that the universe is an atom of equilibrium so we will see men of lighter hues creating a balance by selecting darker hued women as a result. Sorry such a long rant. I appreciated the content and respectfulness of this video. It was interesting.
Damn Obio fine asss helll lmao ..yall really gon keep his channel from me?
Lol funny how 3:02 a question is asked, everybody else answered it , but this guy is quick to defend himself. Just answer the question. And if your answer is light skin, then just say it
I have not yet watch the whole video but I already know that this one will on the defense whereas honesty os what we're looking for..so sad..
I understand and respect your opinion Lore, however, my role in the discussion was to be devil's advocate. Thus the reason every topic I answered, (or did not answer) with the intent of opening up additional realms of thinking. It worked, and is evidenced by all the comments on the video.
Lore Lange You are right!
#FACTS!!! It was like he wanted to be told it is okay to not only prefer light skin but also be colorist towards the end (without ridicule) ummm you SHOULD be ridiculed if you are color struck. And YES there is a difference between a man dating someone lighter because of genuine interest and not their shade...I have dated mostly lighter guys and I attract many non-black men but Black men are actually my preference. They just need to show me more love :) hahhaha by no means I'm a colorist nor would I expect to be respected if I was openly colorist!
They should be honest to each other and themselves. The guys in this articulât are preoccupied in backlash. While backlash is real, if they are afraid to be real they shouldn’t even be in the conversation.
I'm the same as the light skinned dude, growing up I was always attracted to darker girls but as i got into middle school I was more attracted to Mexican and cuban girls, and now I really don't have a preference at all I'm physically attracted to many different women.
The minute ppl dismiss lightskin facing colorism I just stop.
Why do we need to classify our skin tone? Like "I'm caramel, I'm a brownie..." , We are all black in the end, that's it
I prefer chocolate, dark chocolate, black, and the bluest black -- black man!! LOL
IDONTKNOW That would be considered “colorism.”😂
Do You like cheese? No it wouldn't
No it is not colorism actually...
So let black men prefer light skin
They guy in the middle has way too many people in his head defining him. But black men rarely have a sister’s back at work. Have a disagreement between a black woman and a white woman and black men ALWAYS take the white girl’s side, even if the white girl is wrong and is not of a high job status. Why?
"Attracted to everything." That's really scary. I hate when they say that.
I agree that is unnatural to say tht
...anyway, why play music when people trying to talk?
Respect to the dude in the chequered shirt bringing up the double standard.
Nice video watched all however, the use of brown, dark, and light skinned as a classification throughout the conversation made it all sound trivial. I think we have heard the classifications and talked it to death and understand we are in a colorist caste system. The majority of the conversation comes off binary and very focused on the individuals or gender perspective and negative feelings to this system. No conversation of dismantling these terms in this colorist caste system or White supremecy role in creating this structure. I liked the last girl point and focus but wish that was what this talk was about. We are all black and black is many shades. Stand in all its shades....hope to see more videos from yall.
I don't know if the lighting is bad but the "light skin" guy is IMO, mid-brown and those that would be lighter than him can be grouped into the light to lightest skin column and those darker than him can grouped into the dark to darkest skin column. Sorry but there were no "light" women. Women tend to label themselves as light when they are true brown to dark brown with the slightest bit of redness peeking through.
mj peter he’s light skin clearly. You’re just blind and probably bias.
This video was amazing, please post more “millennials talking”, especially ones targeting racism, how social media is treating black people, the use of the n word by non PoC people, etc. this was amazing!!
To all the dark skinned women that has been gaslighted to feel they ain't pretty pls hear this you are extremely beautiful infact ur beauty is out of this world you are heavenly the true blue prints don't let nobody tell you what only you can tell your self
Being a light skin black girl i always get called out by being mixed... and it kinds of hurts black girls can be light skin.
If colorism is for dark skin ppl what's the word for discrimination toward light skin/mixed ppl cause we get it too,not in the same way don't get me wrong,but I've had my difficulties from darker men and women who automatically don't like me cause I'm mixed I'm just curious if there's such a word
The word is jealousy and envy.
N.W.A. And that comes from pain. Can’t have one without the other.
it doesn't exist
I say like who you like but don’t have a fetish over skin complexion.
I feel when it comes to the media we’re seeing more black people in a positive light when the shows are written or controlled by a black person example Black panther and Shonda Rimes on ABC. When it’s a full on white show you’ll get the token black person or any minorities to look like we are being represented example Happy Endings, Roseanne, Big Bang theory(love the show but that 1 Indian person is the token POC) this may not apply to every show but its what I’ve observed.
The host is VERY handsome!!! I like any color in the black rainbow but other races approach me just as much as blacks do so wish it was more black men...um um basically the brown skin guy towards the end was saying if he declares his colorism he'd be ridiculed...but HE SHOULD be ridiculed...I guess the actual concept of colorism went over his head. I think colorism have a nuanced affect on the basis of gender and skin tone.
Dude in middle spoke the truth. Only time I got dark or burnt jokes were from other black girls. And I remember the craze with lightskin men like Drake and Chris Brown in the 2000s and early 2010s
Colorism is not just prejudice or discrimination against individuals with a dark skin tone, typically among people of the same ethnic or racial group. It's not judging people by their character! Don’t judge me based on the "color of my skin, but on the content of my character ~ Martin Luther King Jr.
Thank you for this conversation!
Being a dark skinned woman(Don't argue with me on this, yes I'm dark skinned and beautiful. Lol) I love black men of all shades. But why is it that, the ones that are respectfully attracted to me are guys that are Drake's complexion? Meanwhile, I really want a big strong black man that looks like, and carries them- selves highly like a Travis Cure or Aldis Hodge. But I don't even get approched by that phenotype of a male. All I get is the dark or brown guys that are like "Aye yellow sundress, shorty, shorty, F you then burnt b****!" ..SMH... It seems like more and more educated black men don't even find dark skinned women attractive not even when the women are educated as well?! 😥
Being educated means nothing
on getting a relationship most educated women are conceited
that's why most men don't go for educated women
God damn, all this melanin is just 🤤🤤
I herd the white guys bragging about the new secretary they hired how beautiful she was. To my surprise she was dark chocolate and mad pretty.
Isn’t it colorist to say tou prefer a «dark skinned men». It’s feeding to the narrative that dark skin is masculine..
I loved this! I would love to sit and talk with you about topics like these! Amazing work.
These women need to not work where they are constantly being disrespected.
I like the debate but I’ve never considered myself as a brown skinned, just black. If you consult other races no one is gonna say .... “oh that caramel brown guy 🤨”
Obio, I Think It Would Be Interesting So You Do A Reaction/Reflection Of You? Your Mind Has Greatly Expanded Since This Video and It’s So Evident.
Connect with an individual who creates their own trends and unapologetically defines their own preferences.
They must be in the deep south cause here in california that light woman would be considered brownskin. That medium tone woman MIGHT be considered dark. Is it the lighting?
I was thinking the same thing because the light ones seem to be brown skin in my eyes. I can think and find a lot more lighter people to rep the light skinned people in that room. I'm in Calif too
She said she was brown 🤔
Not exactly true that they have to be from the south to think like that... I'm from the south and I agree with you that The light women would be brown skinned here and the other might be considered dark. It has nothing to do with the south, my sister in law is from NY and she is brown skinned (to me and everyone else) but she considers her self light skinned even though she is not.
The World would be boring if we all had the same Skin Tone
I just wanted to add to the bit at the end, where one of the members mentioned that if a BW said she prefers only Light Skin men she would not be socially reprimanded by Dark Skin men. I think that has less to do with the fact of colourism and moreso to do with masculinity and pride. It would be 'shameful', not my standards but socially, for that to occur. Just my 2 cents.
Loved this convo 👌🏾
I've watched several of these videos all following around the similar topic of colorism and preference, and what I've found is that lightskinned people especially the women prefer dark skin if not ALWAYS. Just thought that was interesting
When will we stop calling ourselves "black" though?
Thanks for this dialog! You just gained a follower.
I don't have a preference on color or race I like em all. I had a crush on four dark skin guys , three light skin guys and two white guys. But I dated a light and dark skin guy
I will admit that I have in certain instances fetishized dark-skinned men, especially after reading the Midnight trilogy (except the 3rd one) by Sister Souljah. Lol. Sorry y'all. But in general, like the one young lady said, fine is fine. If you got it, you just got it. Regardless of shade. But I feel like when it comes to colorism, women get the brunt of the negativity, and more specifically dark-skinned women do. I don't see anyone else receiving the same amount of just pure hatred and disgust as dark-skinned black women. It's truly sickening. But it was so nice not to see that type of bashing in this video. Love the conversation. Even though I'm super late lol.
If you have to ask that type of question, of course it matters, we might not think so or believe so consciously. Although our rich history plays apart if it.
I wish black people understood that this whole "Light skin is my preference" ignores the fact that preferences are manufactured and not intrinsic
I like the conversation. Keep it up!
Love this!!!
I sooooooooo appreciated this video. So dope loved to see the setting of our handsome black men and gorgeous black women of all shades ♥️♥️♥️♥️
For me whenever I have closed my eyes to visualize my King 🤴🏿 it’s has always been a black man at this point the shade does not matter as long as he’s a good loving Blackman man....I have dated all shades even to the rich dark dark chocolate 🍫
There is beauty in all shades and colors