Good morning from Portland Oregon. I have not commented in a while. Been a bit off with all that is happening in Portland and the fact the fact that I have not worked in a while. But I am back at work, day off today, and feeling good again. Your show had a huge part in getting me through the last 9 months and I wanted to let you know and to thank you. Keep up keeping us going.
@@ThatPedalShow Cutting to pre-recorded parts helps tremendously with the pacing and dynamics of a roughly 1 hour video. Also, Dan is an awesome repository of technical info when it comes to how guitar gear works, but explaining it off-the-cuff is not his forte. There's often awkward pauses as his cognitive gears grind trying to find words that the muggles will understand. Pre-recording gets around this beautifully. Banter, tangents, and demoing still needs to happen in the room though. That's what makes TPS what it is.
@@daviddorrian5349 Good question. I actually sold it about a month ago lol. I was using an "ampless" setup and the CB Preamp was really important to shaping that sound. I've since switched my setup to a Prince of Tone going into a Blues Deluxe/Ox Box loaded with an Alnico Cream. I basically found "my" sound and no longer NEEDED the Preamp. I only sold it to fund other things; I still think it's one of the best I've owned. I will also confirm that it's a pretty noisy pedal. Side note: I have the CXM1978 and can't imagine not using it.
Us pedal nerds are so blessed to have access to That Pedal Show and The JHS Show!! I could watch both channels forever. Im going to throw into the mix Vertex Effects channel for teaching us pedalboard build basics as well. 3 honks. 😁
3 years?!?! Wow. The Analogman workshop, not sure if it’s considered a store, is about 35 min from my house. I always wondered if I showed up there, they would have KOT’s for sale, but I highly highly doubt it lol I was lucky enough to be at Sam Ash selling some pedals and stumbled across a man selling his and I immediately said I’ll buy it! Sold a bunch of pedals I wasn’t using a walked out with the KOT. I commend your patience.
Nice man!!! I finally decided i was going to put myself on the waitlist. Ive always told myself i would never wait anywhere near that long for any product, but i finally gave in. Im not holding my breath, but i just want to hear it with my own ear balls someday, so i still have 3 years to wait. Lol. Congratulations on finally getting yours. Just realized ur comment was 1 year ago, but still, congratulations. Lol.
Why not ‘sell the settings’. It’s almost like Kemper (oh gosh I said it...) where one could set the settings of Mick’s Klon and sell it to the masses...
This pedal is interesting but it is just really a mini mixing console in a box with fuzz and EQ no? I mean it is cool looking and can get close to these overdrive pedals BUT it is hifi. Like a console preamp. If you already have a neve/api preamp in your recording chain it is redundant if you already have a TB/OD/Fuzz you dig. Further live, I do not think that hi fi sound will be easy to discern. It is nice, but I think if it only comes close to the real pedals, 800 bucks can be spent a lot smarter. The reality is that every damn kind of pedal that uses the same 15 or so FX has been over done to infinity so now we are turning pedals into mini mixing consoles to keep the interest up. I think we are entering into overkill land here.
Best advantage (other than massive flexibility) is, “Hey, I love my Fuzz Face, but"........( too much mid, wrong mid, etc. etc. etc.)”, and you can tune it just the way you like it, hit save, and done. That, plus my Benson Preamp is already my favorite tone pedal. Awesome job! 🎸
This is the exact reason I plan to get one. I looked at a midi controller eq but having the gain in there as well is crucial since I run into a clean amp.
You guys rock!! Had my prostate taken out Monday and what better way to convalesce than binge watch TPS episodes again. Great continent that may not have been applicable to my tone situation several years ago. TPS is a treasure of knowledge. Keep up the great work.
Wow I am blown away! I preferred the sound of it for all except the rangemaster. That “bigness” gives you an impression of a more 3D sound. The price tag is starting to make way more sense now. It even seems like it would eliminate the need for stacking drives.
I can’t wait to see Nev on the show. There’s an old video of Mick and Nev showcasing LP custom shop R9 (“The Dutch” or something like that) which has some tasty tasty playing by them both.
I live in LA and have been a party photographer for 13 years. Hollywood can hardly compete, you guys are the real celebrities in my eyes. Thank you for being kings of tone, your videos always bring me so much joy and inspiration. It’s things like this that make life worth living for so many-what a beautiful thing you guys are doing.
Quite liked this episode. Lately I've been turning off after the first few minutes if it's something I'm not specifically interested in. In this one I liked the little asides where Dan or MIck explained one particular pedal. It held my interest much more. Really like the show and hope you can keep making it fresh..
That Tomatotone is truly impressive. It's an expensive pedal, yes, but from what I've heard here it can capably replace any number of overdrive pedals. In a live setting, I suspect few people would ever know the difference. The fact that it has MIDI switching capability means you can essentially jump between each of your favourites or between gain and level settings for solos.
I sold my klon KTR and Jam Pedals fuzz phrase to help purchase this to be my only drive/fuzz pedal (aside from the deco at the end of the chain) and I couldn't be happier. A perfect pedal.
The TomatoTron from Outer Space has landed, somewhere near Swindon (or wherever TPS HQ is)... Pedalboards and wallets around the globe cower in fear... Great show guys. The show comes out evening time here in Hong Kong, just what is needed at the end of the week. Always entertaining and educational, wish I could say the same about my online teaching! Many thanks 😊
This is like sitting with your friends on a Friday night , a few beers, Lots of laughs and great conversations. Wouldn’t miss it for the world. Simply the best channel on CZcams. I have learned so much. Brilliant!
Six "nopes"! I'm impressed. I always use compression, actually dual compression as well as Q-Strip EQ, so that surely helps some of my other OD pedals sound very close to the Dirty Mac if I want them to. As feel goes, that is very subjective and if it's working for you, great. I suppose we must agree to differ. I do agree, however, that few if any pedals, without compression or additional EQ can do what the Tomato does so well. It surely gives us a wonderful and rare peek behind the curtain of what makes ODs sound as they do. It's remarkable and the very model of versatility. You guys demonstrated it wonderfully. Great show, as usual. Cheers, mates.
Awesome review guys. You can see micks cogs turning after the fuzz face test... inner mick: where am I gonna put this on my pedal board, with a dash of mind blown too.
Watched this; then ordered a PoT. Because that’s what I’d end up leaving the Tomato set on. Great demonstration of how all our favourite tones are derived; thank you.
That tomato tone is wondrous! I have to say there is something special about that KOT that really shines, through my headphones at least. The reality being that it's probably easier for me to find the Chase Bliss than a KOT these days! Thanks again, Gentlemen.
A lot of debate online about whether this episode was a shameless plug for the Automatone. Clearly not, but even if it was, this episode was hugely educational. It broke down what makes classic overdrives sound the way they do, and went on to use the Automatone as an educational tool to demonstrate how it all works. Similar to Dan's Frankenstein tape delay build. Outstanding effort.
Thanks Andy. Re the shameless plug bit, the question would be, ‘why?’. What would be our motivation for shamelessly plugging something that we don’t sell, or get any financial compensation for selling... for example Sweetwater (whom we collect a small amount of affiliate revenue from) aren’t even a Chase Bliss dealer! I think it’s a reflection of people’s own stance on how they would do it. Most people just cannot understand that we do not get - and have never been - paid to feature any product. Thanks for the comment!
Honestly. how ridiculously close this thing gets to the OG pedals. My God what a freaking value. It sounds great. There were so many clips where you were a/b ing where I wasn't watching and thought you weren't switching pedals. "Pretty close" in this context is "as good as the original" good stuff guys.
That Pedal Show Respectfully- no way. You guys are creating a new art/media format and making (hopefully) a living doing what you love. Nothing more punk than that.
I had another audition of the Automatone on Saturday, and well, I've pulled the trigger. It's going to be surrounded by a Kingsley Page and Mason which should be a very versatile and organic drive/boost/fuzz set-up.
Just found a "Automatone" in stock and ordered it. I haven't even watched today's TPS show yet. I knew I would buy one weeks ago when Mick and Dan first used it. I see under the "Pedals & Stuff" notes that the Matchless and Two Rock are being featured..Oh my...this is going to be good. Thanks TPS crew!
Got an email from Analog Mike last week that I was finally at the top of the KoT waiting list after three years. (Since June 2017.) It's now paid for and is currently in Hong Kong on its way to Australia. Now I see this video. Sigh. :)
Here I am with a RYRA Klone, Analogman KOT and Kingtone Fuzz, putting together a new mini board. I'd love an Automatone for an all purpose recording tool but when feeling inspired and in the moment its fun to hit a bunch of pedals, makes me feel like I'm doing more EDIT just finished the video, that thing is bonkers
Stunning show. I loved the little in-between vlog sections. Bought the Automatone from Pedal Empire as soon as they arrived in Australia. A fantastic pedal with millions of tones. Stacks well and really is a chameleon amongst pedals. Love it. Great work Dan and Mick. Well done Chase Bliss and Benson.
That was also my takeaway as well. After playing the CXM I purchased I realized something different and wonderful was going on in that brain of his. That pedal is better than any other pedal I’ve ever played in the Reverb, Modulation realm. Nothing is really close imho. I own a King of Tone, a TS-10, 808 and 9, I have a Klon and a Ceriatone Centura ( basically the same exact thing ) and a Fuzz Face. I also now have a Chase Bliss Pre Amp MK II on the way and should be arriving in the next week or so. This is the first time I’ve ever considered selling my King of Tone but I don’t even on on if I heard a difference between the Pre-Amp and the KOT. The Tube Screamer tone wasn’t as close, but it was pretty close after some tweaking. A good Tube Screamer is hard to beat. A Cali 76, a Dyna-ssoR and a TS-10 or the Keeley 808 with or without a Klon boost is my singing sustained blues tone and would be happy with just that and some amp reverb. But at the end the day, Joel from Chase Bliss, with the help of Benson, managed to put all of those pedal tones in that one pedal somehow and I’m still awestruck by how close it is. And why limit when the pedal world is exploding. Besides the Tube Screamer, to me, they were all there. But for me, the Automatone’s fuzz tone and options ( germanium, silicon, gated, open ) is one of the best fuzz tones I’ve ever heard minus vintage Tone Bender’s and Fuzz Faces. The sky rocking of prices in Chase Bliss pedals on Reverb I think is a reaction to people reacting to just how good the CXM 1978 Reverb and the Pre Amp Automatone’s and how they really are that good.
I honestly don't think the Automatone price is unreasonable when you take everything into consideration. Whether you are prepared or able to pay for it is entirely annother question (sadly without a positive outcome in my case)
Wow, you've done a really good job at justifying this pedals eye watering price tag. I'm honestly staggered how well the tomatotone stood up against these classic circuits, and not only imitating but sometimes adding to their original sound. Coincidentally, I fell in love with my range master pedal today. First time back practicing with the band, using my new-to-me 1962 Jaguar. The Laney Black Country Customs TI Boost really brought out the character of the Jag, but added enough grit and balls to it to make it sound fat. And playing loud for the first time in months really put a smile on my face :) thanks for keeping me company through lockdown fellas, you do more good than you realise
Fidelity. I get it. The most telling was the LP into the Klon. In comparison the Automatone sounded more transparent and amp like. The Klon had this artificial, slightly boxy sound that I remembered from my old s/n 64 unless the amp was really cranked, which probably masked it. When I had the Klon I was mostly playing an '86 335, so similar effect. It would be really interesting to use that setting on an Automatone stacked with other pedals in the same way Mick uses the Klon. Would you get more transparency and headroom? Chase Bliss should release that fuzz circuit with the eq on it. No need for the automation. It would rule the fuzz market.
Hey guys, I love that you give a historical background with the pedals... feels like I'm in a cool music school! Love it! Keep up the good work fellas.
Got to agree with the other comments about the breaks.... Brilliant!! I totally get that you can't remember everything about every pedal on the show so this will save time trying to recall product info and specs. Plus the viewers are getting more juicy bits packed into the same hour!
@@ThatPedalShowGood morning from the shores of Lake Erie in Buffalo, NY! I'd love to own a pair of Beyers! They'll be after I buy a better receiver for the living room and a hardware poly synth (leaning toward a DeepMind 12 due to the price and depth of built in effects from TC...) My new new pair are "just" Philips SPH9500s, but the difference in clarity and comfort vs the closed backs I've heard my whole life is stunning.
@@ThatPedalShow Mick, you may have come to love tube screamers because of SRV, but this lad a generation younger and an ocean away bought a TS because of TPS.
My biggest question... does it really need to sound like anything else? It sounds incredible. It can be it’s own thing and be amazing. Stupid good gents.
It doesn't, but it is a huge plus if one has a midi-controlled board and can recall all those sounds. I revised my midi board a few weeks ago because of the automatone and found out as well that the automatone can sound like a lot of the pedals I considered to be in that board with it. You can save the space for other sounds. Or f.ex. boost a Sweet Honey OD with automatone sounding like the Sweet Honey (or a Klon with a "Klon", a KOT with a "Klon" etc.) if you like :)
I really enjoyed the cuts to you guys talking about the history of each pedal! Very informative, and like most TPS videos, highly entertaining! Cheers gentlemen!
Automatone is a bonkers pedal. It can also do very convincing Muff variants, Tonebender, Tchula, and the list goes on. Really enjoyed this episode, thanks guys!
Hi Mick and Dan!..hope you guys are doing great!..thank you Mick for being one of the only guys(if not the only) I hear pronouncing "automatone" the proper way..good on ya! BTW the inserted short pedal vignettes are a classy touch.
The Automatone is definitely on my radar... Such a great sounding pedal. Thanks again gentleman for a great Friday of information and insight... Cheers
I love the show and listening to you guys play, and I’ve learned a lot about pedals watching, but I think you kind of missed the boat on how revolutionary this pedal really is... it’s great that you can make it sound relatively close to all those classic pedals, but what this thing does is truly amazing, when you get MIDI involved. All those sliders can be sequenced/modulated via control messages to *animate* them while you’re playing, so all manner of swell, envelope filter and tremolo stuff is possible on top of the raw tones. I know that stuff can be a bit harrowing when you don’t come from synth-world like I do, but it just seems to me that this device is a lot more mind-blowing than simply looking at it as a classic pedal emulator with presets.
Man, I love my King of Tone and this video shows why. I've also never had the pleasure of playing a Klon, Klone, or something similar, but it sounded fantastic in this. I really should try one some day.
This another pedal that I took a punt on based on Mick’s observations: in the tomatotone’s case, I hadn’t heard a demo that I was really impressed with, and had decided not to get one. But I did follow his lead in the CXM 1978, which it turns out I’d addictive, and he kept banging on about “fidelity” and “headroom” with the tomato. which are exactly my two favourite characteristics in a low-mid gain OD / boost / comp. I tend to like pedals that run at, or give you the option to run at, 12/18/24v. like the Small Trees or Cali76, and ODs with plenty of low end like the Vermurams. And of course he was spot on - it does indeed sound “big”, which is fantastic when you’re looking for that sound of an amp cranked at non-cranked volumes, and for recording. Even a clean sound with the automatone is massive. And while a few other pedals won’t get bought due to the tomato being so versatile, Morningstar got some custom from me to try and run the CXM and tomato via, M1D1. Great video as always. Watched it again to pinch the settings for KoT etc.
i know that Mick has mentioned quite some times that he always kind of struggled a bit with LP guitars. But man, this one suited him pretty pretty well !!! :) ...great episode, boys !!
Hi fellas, Great show but you missed a great opportunity, after spending so much time dialing in replica sounds to each pedal, and saving it. You could have ended by switching between the presets, and seeing the faders move and hearing the sound change accordingly. Very enjoyable as usual though. Thanks.
Just wow! Every comparison held it's ground for sure, but the fuzz face with the extra fidelity and headroom really blew my mind, and it seemed like there was room to push the volume even further
Great Episode - its not often a true game changer comes along. It'll be interesting to see if it crosses over to be a keeper. Every time I buy a 'it chops, it slices, it dices pedal' its guaranteed to be gathering dust on the shelf after a few weeks.
Great video as always! I would just like to add, the VTs are great! Separates the info from the tangents (we love both). I also prefer the intro sequence this way! Flows more smoothly than an introduction at the top of the video. Cheers :)
Amazing job guys. I've got one on order and will be referring back to this video repeatedly for guidance. As others have commented it would be cool to go back thru each of the presets you created and A/B them sequentially. As someone who has been playing for 40 years with piles of guitars, amps and effects chasing tone it is truly an amazing time to be a guitarist. Cheers!
I'm seeing a lot of comments asking why should the guys try to make this sound like another pedal. For me, that's missing the point. I think the take away here is that if there's a sound you have in your head or are searching for, this pedal can probably nail it. Great video guys
I do a Frantone hep kat in to a kingsley page with some tape echo - haven't really changed much at will with that core tone but I will say that this channel definitely makes me think...
Can't wait to get off of work to watch this. Have been waiting for it. The Automatone is like the kemper of pedals. Over the last 3 weeks of owning the Automatone I have had a lot of fun trying to replicate my other dirt pedals. It can do just about anything. And do it well.
It’s not like the Kemper at all! The Kemper doesn’t sound like the amps it models (especially loud and with pedals).... but the Automatone kinda does. Convincingly.... and even it’s not the same, it’s every bit as good!
That Pedal Show Andertons did a video challenge of their owner trying to guess the real amp vs. the Kemper and he can’t tell the difference. That video seemed to be in high volume. So I’m wondering about the high volume part of your comment in context to that video. But it doesn’t take pedals well? I haven’t seen tests on that before, it would be very helpful for us prospective buyers if you can make a video of how well profilers and modellers could take in your fav pedals in the show 😊
@@ThatPedalShow hahaha, that's not what I meant. What I was trying to say is that the Automatone does a great job at replicating every other dirt box on my board. Sort of how the kemper "replicates amps". In another words i have "copied my other dirt pedals". Then sold them on reverb. Some are spot on in feel and tone. Others are very very close. I have the Automatone, it is beyond great. And the fuzz is next level
This! This is what I've been waiting for! Holy ****! Can't believe how it basically nailed everything and even sounded better in some situations. The biggest one that I was interested in was the fuzz since hardly any other videos really covered that aspect and can I just say DAYAMN... Fuzzface. Done. Great job boys! But now I may have to spend more money. Why do you do this to me...
You guys really have the best musical comedy routine going on you tube, its such a fabulous relationship , we really love you two dearly. A big Thanx !
Well I’ll be damned; the tomatotone is way closer to each of these than I imagined possible. Now to find out if it’s drink proof before it goes on a tour board (not that we’ll be out on the road anytime soon). Amazing show per usual, thank you guys so much for being the twice weekly highlight of my week. All my Love, Aaron
God how I wished you would have played a million miles away by Rory Gallagher when you said “not a million miles away”. You guys should talk more about Gallagher when using AC30 and treble booster. He is the king of that combo and also the greatest guitar player of all time. Great video
Dan and Mick, you both receive well deserved accolades for the playing ability in your hands. You both are truly amazing. I’m more impressed and envious of your ears and your ability to dial in one pedal to exactly match another, or to tweak an amp and pedals to glorious tones. The more I tweak the more the sounds get worse. I keep going back to noon and bump from there and it just doesn’t seem to get the magic like you both get. As for the Automatone vs the pedals... Even when set to noon the pedals still sound great which is why I buy them. When I finally get a setting I like, I switch guitars and the old settings are wrong and I have to tweak all over again. This never sounds bad when you swap guitars though. I understand that once the settings are stored in the Automatone it automatically returns itself to those settings, and I could store settings for different guitars. I can’t see me having to dial in the Automatone in the first place as there are too many options to shape tone and my ears are just not good enough. I avoid modeling amps for the same reason. Give me tried and true analog pedals and amps and I’ll spin knobs and some days match the right guitar with the right settings and hear the magic. A blind squirrel can find a nut once in a while... :D John
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Good morning from Portland Oregon. I have not commented in a while. Been a bit off with all that is happening in Portland and the fact the fact that I have not worked in a while. But I am back at work, day off today, and feeling good again. Your show had a huge part in getting me through the last 9 months and I wanted to let you know and to thank you. Keep up keeping us going.
Really like the cuts to VT here, guys - keeps the overall flow very nice.
Thanks Vince, appreciate the feedback!
It really adds to the show!
What does VT stand for again? I guess it is those clips they do from home, but curious to know what VT is short for :-)
Thor Oliversen video tape
@@ThatPedalShow Cutting to pre-recorded parts helps tremendously with the pacing and dynamics of a roughly 1 hour video. Also, Dan is an awesome repository of technical info when it comes to how guitar gear works, but explaining it off-the-cuff is not his forte. There's often awkward pauses as his cognitive gears grind trying to find words that the muggles will understand. Pre-recording gets around this beautifully.
Banter, tangents, and demoing still needs to happen in the room though. That's what makes TPS what it is.
Just stole all your settings for my 3rd bank. Now I can tell everyone I have a Klon, Fuzz Face, King of Tone, AND flying faders.
Yay!
Going to do the same thing lol! My Chase just came today 😊
Now the test, seeing this comment 2 years later. Are you still content and satisfied with the pedal and most importantly, still using it?
@@daviddorrian5349 Good question. I actually sold it about a month ago lol. I was using an "ampless" setup and the CB Preamp was really important to shaping that sound. I've since switched my setup to a Prince of Tone going into a Blues Deluxe/Ox Box loaded with an Alnico Cream. I basically found "my" sound and no longer NEEDED the Preamp. I only sold it to fund other things; I still think it's one of the best I've owned. I will also confirm that it's a pretty noisy pedal.
Side note: I have the CXM1978 and can't imagine not using it.
Us pedal nerds are so blessed to have access to That Pedal Show and The JHS Show!! I could watch both channels forever. Im going to throw into the mix Vertex Effects channel for teaching us pedalboard build basics as well. 3 honks. 😁
My King of Tone has been shipped. 3 years in waiting. Thanks guys for introducing me to all the pedals, it's been great watching you week after week.
3 years?!?! Wow. The Analogman workshop, not sure if it’s considered a store, is about 35 min from my house. I always wondered if I showed up there, they would have KOT’s for sale, but I highly highly doubt it lol I was lucky enough to be at Sam Ash selling some pedals and stumbled across a man selling his and I immediately said I’ll buy it! Sold a bunch of pedals I wasn’t using a walked out with the KOT. I commend your patience.
Nice man!!! I finally decided i was going to put myself on the waitlist. Ive always told myself i would never wait anywhere near that long for any product, but i finally gave in. Im not holding my breath, but i just want to hear it with my own ear balls someday, so i still have 3 years to wait. Lol. Congratulations on finally getting yours. Just realized ur comment was 1 year ago, but still, congratulations. Lol.
Mr. Korte should give 10% to TPS on all Automatone sales, because you both just sold him a boatload. Great show, gentlemen!
Why not ‘sell the settings’. It’s almost like Kemper (oh gosh I said it...) where one could set the settings of Mick’s Klon and sell it to the masses...
Analogman king of automatone coming soon, 2 of these bad boys stackable in one box, waiting list measured in generations.
This pedal is interesting but it is just really a mini mixing console in a box with fuzz and EQ no? I mean it is cool looking and can get close to these overdrive pedals BUT it is hifi. Like a console preamp. If you already have a neve/api preamp in your recording chain it is redundant if you already have a TB/OD/Fuzz you dig. Further live, I do not think that hi fi sound will be easy to discern. It is nice, but I think if it only comes close to the real pedals, 800 bucks can be spent a lot smarter. The reality is that every damn kind of pedal that uses the same 15 or so FX has been over done to infinity so now we are turning pedals into mini mixing consoles to keep the interest up. I think we are entering into overkill land here.
Best advantage (other than massive flexibility) is, “Hey, I love my Fuzz Face, but"........( too much mid, wrong mid, etc. etc. etc.)”, and you can tune it just the way you like it, hit save, and done. That, plus my Benson Preamp is already my favorite tone pedal. Awesome job! 🎸
This is the exact reason I plan to get one. I looked at a midi controller eq but having the gain in there as well is crucial since I run into a clean amp.
My gosh, there were times I was unable to tell that you were switching devices, This thing is CRAZY!
Moo
Chase Bliss Audio totally need to release a run of the Automatone in tomato red
When you spill beer on it, will it be a Fried Automatone?
You guys rock!! Had my prostate taken out Monday and what better way to convalesce than binge watch TPS episodes again. Great continent that may not have been applicable to my tone situation several years ago. TPS is a treasure of knowledge. Keep up the great work.
We wish you a speedy recovery Donald - all the best sir!
What does a prostate even do. I legit don't know
Boggesh Zahim Apparently it causes cancer.
@@boggeshzahim3713 It helps make your loads thick and creamy. I'm serious.
Stay strong mate. Regards from the U.K.
We need a special run of TPS Tomato-tones in Tomato red!!
Noise Code YES PLEASE!!
This. So much this.
I like to hear the tomato tones in the mattress.
Oh the ONEDERs of it all,
Wow I am blown away! I preferred the sound of it for all except the rangemaster. That “bigness” gives you an impression of a more 3D sound. The price tag is starting to make way more sense now. It even seems like it would eliminate the need for stacking drives.
Mick you played that LP like you've had it all your life. It's probably the best sounding humbucking geetar you've had on the show!
No arguments here. :0)
I can’t wait to see Nev on the show. There’s an old video of Mick and Nev showcasing LP custom shop R9 (“The Dutch” or something like that) which has some tasty tasty playing by them both.
I have to say, Dans got an amazing ear. always astounds me when he gets a pedal or combination of pedals to sound like something else. Well done Dan
Andy Lord Yeah, Mick’s not bad either but Dan... he can hear it!!
Yeah it’s incredible
Agree. Love em both, but Dan can: "Really-Dial em in" - probably many years . . . fiddling with his Flanger : )
He hears everything and dialed in the Automatone extremely well and fast.
I live in LA and have been a party photographer for 13 years. Hollywood can hardly compete, you guys are the real celebrities in my eyes. Thank you for being kings of tone, your videos always bring me so much joy and inspiration. It’s things like this that make life worth living for so many-what a beautiful thing you guys are doing.
Thank you Preston. We wish we could see what you see!
Quite liked this episode. Lately I've been turning off after the first few minutes if it's something I'm not specifically interested in. In this one I liked the little asides where Dan or MIck explained one particular pedal. It held my interest much more. Really like the show and hope you can keep making it fresh..
That Tomatotone is truly impressive. It's an expensive pedal, yes, but from what I've heard here it can capably replace any number of overdrive pedals. In a live setting, I suspect few people would ever know the difference. The fact that it has MIDI switching capability means you can essentially jump between each of your favourites or between gain and level settings for solos.
I sold my klon KTR and Jam Pedals fuzz phrase to help purchase this to be my only drive/fuzz pedal (aside from the deco at the end of the chain) and I couldn't be happier. A perfect pedal.
Mine landed last week. I’m absolutely blown away by how good it is. Will be banking all these settings you’ve used!!
I have one and worth every penny! Replaced 3 drive pedals for me! Paid for itself!
The TomatoTron from Outer Space has landed, somewhere near Swindon (or wherever TPS HQ is)...
Pedalboards and wallets around the globe cower in fear...
Great show guys. The show comes out evening time here in Hong Kong, just what is needed at the end of the week. Always entertaining and educational, wish I could say the same about my online teaching! Many thanks 😊
This is like sitting with your friends on a Friday night , a few beers, Lots of laughs and great conversations. Wouldn’t miss it for the world. Simply the best channel on CZcams. I have learned so much. Brilliant!
Thank you Walter!
Dan's got golden ears. He nailed the sound of the Dirty Mac to an absolute T. Legend!
That fuzz face moment. Wow.
Everything you figured out is completely amazing - but the fuzz face is just mind blowing. That Potatotone is the shizzle, my fizzle.
Six "nopes"! I'm impressed. I always use compression, actually dual compression as well as Q-Strip EQ, so that surely helps some of my other OD pedals sound very close to the Dirty Mac if I want them to. As feel goes, that is very subjective and if it's working for you, great. I suppose we must agree to differ.
I do agree, however, that few if any pedals, without compression or additional EQ can do what the Tomato does so well. It surely gives us a wonderful and rare peek behind the curtain of what makes ODs sound as they do. It's remarkable and the very model of versatility. You guys demonstrated it wonderfully. Great show, as usual.
Cheers, mates.
Awesome review guys. You can see micks cogs turning after the fuzz face test... inner mick: where am I gonna put this on my pedal board, with a dash of mind blown too.
Watched this; then ordered a PoT. Because that’s what I’d end up leaving the Tomato set on. Great demonstration of how all our favourite tones are derived; thank you.
I’m getting to the point where I might just have an Automatone and an Eventide H90, and that’s my whole board.
Add hx stomp and midi controller mc6 pro
That tomato tone is wondrous! I have to say there is something special about that KOT that really shines, through my headphones at least. The reality being that it's probably easier for me to find the Chase Bliss than a KOT these days! Thanks again, Gentlemen.
That gold top is also GORGEOUS
A lot of debate online about whether this episode was a shameless plug for the Automatone. Clearly not, but even if it was, this episode was hugely educational. It broke down what makes classic overdrives sound the way they do, and went on to use the Automatone as an educational tool to demonstrate how it all works. Similar to Dan's Frankenstein tape delay build. Outstanding effort.
Thanks Andy. Re the shameless plug bit, the question would be, ‘why?’. What would be our motivation for shamelessly plugging something that we don’t sell, or get any financial compensation for selling... for example Sweetwater (whom we collect a small amount of affiliate revenue from) aren’t even a Chase Bliss dealer!
I think it’s a reflection of people’s own stance on how they would do it. Most people just cannot understand that we do not get - and have never been - paid to feature any product.
Thanks for the comment!
Honestly. how ridiculously close this thing gets to the OG pedals. My God what a freaking value. It sounds great. There were so many clips where you were a/b ing where I wasn't watching and thought you weren't switching pedals. "Pretty close" in this context is "as good as the original" good stuff guys.
I agree. Seems you can shape anything with this!
Gotta say, really digging Mick’s facial hair. He almost looks like a Colonel from the American Civil War!
Thank you! Now March!
Mick being tuned to F was a real TPS punk rock moment
It’s as punk rock as I’ve ever been! ;0)
That Pedal Show Respectfully- no way. You guys are creating a new art/media format and making (hopefully) a living doing what you love. Nothing more punk than that.
I had another audition of the Automatone on Saturday, and well, I've pulled the trigger. It's going to be surrounded by a Kingsley Page and Mason which should be a very versatile and organic drive/boost/fuzz set-up.
This video is helping me understand the EQ of classic pedals more. Cheers guys.
Incredible. To even take a stab at those pedals and be in the neighborhood is a statement within itself!
Just found a "Automatone" in stock and ordered it. I haven't even watched today's TPS show yet. I knew I would buy one weeks ago when Mick and Dan first used it. I see under the "Pedals & Stuff" notes that the Matchless and Two Rock are being featured..Oh my...this is going to be good. Thanks TPS crew!
Oooh you lucky boy! I wish you hours of enjoyment in it! :)
Anyone else going through this video and saving all these settings into their Automatone as a starting point?
Got an email from Analog Mike last week that I was finally at the top of the KoT waiting list after three years. (Since June 2017.) It's now paid for and is currently in Hong Kong on its way to Australia. Now I see this video. Sigh. :)
Here I am with a RYRA Klone, Analogman KOT and Kingtone Fuzz, putting together a new mini board. I'd love an Automatone for an all purpose recording tool but when feeling inspired and in the moment its fun to hit a bunch of pedals, makes me feel like I'm doing more
EDIT just finished the video, that thing is bonkers
Love the editing between the footage in the room and the explanations of the pedals. Brilliantly done as always.
Me too. They don’t talk about diodes as much anymore. Miss it.
Stunning show. I loved the little in-between vlog sections. Bought the Automatone from Pedal Empire as soon as they arrived in Australia. A fantastic pedal with millions of tones. Stacks well and really is a chameleon amongst pedals. Love it. Great work Dan and Mick. Well done Chase Bliss and Benson.
The takeaway: Joel is a genius.
And Chris :)
That was also my takeaway as well. After playing the CXM I purchased I realized something different and wonderful was going on in that brain of his. That pedal is better than any other pedal I’ve ever played in the Reverb, Modulation realm. Nothing is really close imho. I own a King of Tone, a TS-10, 808 and 9, I have a Klon and a Ceriatone Centura ( basically the same exact thing ) and a Fuzz Face. I also now have a Chase Bliss Pre Amp MK II on the way and should be arriving in the next week or so. This is the first time I’ve ever considered selling my King of Tone but I don’t even on on if I heard a difference between the Pre-Amp and the KOT. The Tube Screamer tone wasn’t as close, but it was pretty close after some tweaking. A good Tube Screamer is hard to beat. A Cali 76, a Dyna-ssoR and a TS-10 or the Keeley 808 with or without a Klon boost is my singing sustained blues tone and would be happy with just that and some amp reverb. But at the end the day, Joel from Chase Bliss, with the help of Benson, managed to put all of those pedal tones in that one pedal somehow and I’m still awestruck by how close it is. And why limit when the pedal world is exploding. Besides the Tube Screamer, to me, they were all there. But for me, the Automatone’s fuzz tone and options ( germanium, silicon, gated, open ) is one of the best fuzz tones I’ve ever heard minus vintage Tone Bender’s and Fuzz Faces. The sky rocking of prices in Chase Bliss pedals on Reverb I think is a reaction to people reacting to just how good the CXM 1978 Reverb and the Pre Amp Automatone’s and how they really are that good.
I honestly don't think the Automatone price is unreasonable when you take everything into consideration. Whether you are prepared or able to pay for it is entirely annother question (sadly without a positive outcome in my case)
Wow, you've done a really good job at justifying this pedals eye watering price tag. I'm honestly staggered how well the tomatotone stood up against these classic circuits, and not only imitating but sometimes adding to their original sound.
Coincidentally, I fell in love with my range master pedal today. First time back practicing with the band, using my new-to-me 1962 Jaguar. The Laney Black Country Customs TI Boost really brought out the character of the Jag, but added enough grit and balls to it to make it sound fat. And playing loud for the first time in months really put a smile on my face :) thanks for keeping me company through lockdown fellas, you do more good than you realise
I was getting so close to being content with my board and now this episode. WOW. Well done guys
Fidelity. I get it. The most telling was the LP into the Klon. In comparison the Automatone sounded more transparent and amp like. The Klon had this artificial, slightly boxy sound that I remembered from my old s/n 64 unless the amp was really cranked, which probably masked it. When I had the Klon I was mostly playing an '86 335, so similar effect. It would be really interesting to use that setting on an Automatone stacked with other pedals in the same way Mick uses the Klon. Would you get more transparency and headroom?
Chase Bliss should release that fuzz circuit with the eq on it. No need for the automation. It would rule the fuzz market.
Hey guys, I love that you give a historical background with the pedals... feels like I'm in a cool music school! Love it! Keep up the good work fellas.
Got to agree with the other comments about the breaks.... Brilliant!! I totally get that you can't remember everything about every pedal on the show so this will save time trying to recall product info and specs. Plus the viewers are getting more juicy bits packed into the same hour!
Just bought new open-back headphones. Excited to listen to a new Friday show on my new cans!
Ooooh! I LOVE my Beyer 880 Pros. Mick here. Such a different experience. :0)
@@ThatPedalShowGood morning from the shores of Lake Erie in Buffalo, NY! I'd love to own a pair of Beyers! They'll be after I buy a better receiver for the living room and a hardware poly synth (leaning toward a DeepMind 12 due to the price and depth of built in effects from TC...)
My new new pair are "just" Philips SPH9500s, but the difference in clarity and comfort vs the closed backs I've heard my whole life is stunning.
@@ThatPedalShow Mick, you may have come to love tube screamers because of SRV, but this lad a generation younger and an ocean away bought a TS because of TPS.
After redundancy, this is a welcome friend. Top work guys. 👌
My biggest question... does it really need to sound like anything else? It sounds incredible. It can be it’s own thing and be amazing. Stupid good gents.
That is a great comment. Cheers!
It doesn't, but it is a huge plus if one has a midi-controlled board and can recall all those sounds. I revised my midi board a few weeks ago because of the automatone and found out as well that the automatone can sound like a lot of the pedals I considered to be in that board with it. You can save the space for other sounds. Or f.ex. boost a Sweet Honey OD with automatone sounding like the Sweet Honey (or a Klon with a "Klon", a KOT with a "Klon" etc.) if you like :)
Aleksi Heinilä or get two Automatone and boost it with it! ;)
@@Jewdly Mind blown, I'm going to need a bigger board (once again) ;)
I really enjoyed the cuts to you guys talking about the history of each pedal! Very informative, and like most TPS videos, highly entertaining! Cheers gentlemen!
Automatone is a bonkers pedal. It can also do very convincing Muff variants, Tonebender, Tchula, and the list goes on. Really enjoyed this episode, thanks guys!
Thanks guys for the show. Recently purchased the tomato and I love it. Sold my KOT, Sunset, Fuzz and EQ pedals. Unbelievable.....
Enjoyed the highly intellectual discussion about how the word “tomato” was in the name.
Yeah this sold me. It’s worth the 760 -800 - it’s like 10 plus pedals in one.
Hi Mick and Dan!..hope you guys are doing great!..thank you Mick for being one of the only guys(if not the only) I hear pronouncing "automatone" the proper way..good on ya! BTW the inserted short pedal vignettes are a classy touch.
The Automatone is definitely on my radar... Such a great sounding pedal.
Thanks again gentleman for a great Friday of information and insight...
Cheers
I was waiting for this episode, hoping you guys would do it. Thank you so very, very, very much!!! Great playing as always!
I love the show and listening to you guys play, and I’ve learned a lot about pedals watching, but I think you kind of missed the boat on how revolutionary this pedal really is... it’s great that you can make it sound relatively close to all those classic pedals, but what this thing does is truly amazing, when you get MIDI involved. All those sliders can be sequenced/modulated via control messages to *animate* them while you’re playing, so all manner of swell, envelope filter and tremolo stuff is possible on top of the raw tones. I know that stuff can be a bit harrowing when you don’t come from synth-world like I do, but it just seems to me that this device is a lot more mind-blowing than simply looking at it as a classic pedal emulator with presets.
Man, I love my King of Tone and this video shows why. I've also never had the pleasure of playing a Klon, Klone, or something similar, but it sounded fantastic in this. I really should try one some day.
This another pedal that I took a punt on based on Mick’s observations: in the tomatotone’s case, I hadn’t heard a demo that I was really impressed with, and had decided not to get one. But I did follow his lead in the CXM 1978, which it turns out I’d addictive, and he kept banging on about “fidelity” and “headroom” with the tomato. which are exactly my two favourite characteristics in a low-mid gain OD / boost / comp. I tend to like pedals that run at, or give you the option to run at, 12/18/24v. like the Small Trees or Cali76, and ODs with plenty of low end like the Vermurams. And of course he was spot on - it does indeed sound “big”, which is fantastic when you’re looking for that sound of an amp cranked at non-cranked volumes, and for recording. Even a clean sound with the automatone is massive. And while a few other pedals won’t get bought due to the tomato being so versatile, Morningstar got some custom from me to try and run the CXM and tomato via, M1D1.
Great video as always. Watched it again to pinch the settings for KoT etc.
Me: No! No! No! Dan & Mick, I just had a baby. I do not need a $750 pedal.
Also me: BUT I NEED IT.....
Treat yo self! And congratulations!
Same boat
congratulations! i always recommend the album Riceboy Sleeps by Jonsi and Alex to help newborns get to bed.
I was really shocked at how close you came to all of those pedals. That tomato thing is incredible!
I like the little cut scenes you do with Dan explaining the history of the pedals. Works really well. Good content, as usual.
i know that Mick has mentioned quite some times that he always kind of struggled a bit with LP guitars. But man, this one suited him pretty pretty well !!! :) ...great episode, boys !!
Hi fellas,
Great show but you missed a great opportunity, after spending so much time dialing in replica sounds to each pedal, and saving it.
You could have ended by switching between the presets, and seeing the faders move and hearing the sound change accordingly.
Very enjoyable as usual though.
Thanks.
Just wow! Every comparison held it's ground for sure, but the fuzz face with the extra fidelity and headroom really blew my mind, and it seemed like there was room to push the volume even further
I’d forgotten about that video. Definitely going to rewatch.
Mick, that gold top you're playing just reminded me why I bought a Les Paul!
Reminded me why I’ve always wanted one and only every liked the crazy expensive ones. Sigh.
Thanks for the presets, guys! Especially the klon and fuzz face. They are all stored👌🏻
Was there a link to the presets?
That fuzz tone ... Wow. I christen that, "The Attack of the Killer Tomato". 🤯
Wow, was not expecting that. Wow. I’m reconsidering all my life choices now.... 😳
Great Episode - its not often a true game changer comes along. It'll be interesting to see if it crosses over to be a keeper. Every time I buy a 'it chops, it slices, it dices pedal' its guaranteed to be gathering dust on the shelf after a few weeks.
Keep coming back to this video. The Automatone is powerful.
Great video as always! I would just like to add, the VTs are great! Separates the info from the tangents (we love both). I also prefer the intro sequence this way! Flows more smoothly than an introduction at the top of the video. Cheers :)
Amazing job guys. I've got one on order and will be referring back to this video repeatedly for guidance. As others have commented it would be cool to go back thru each of the presets you created and A/B them sequentially. As someone who has been playing for 40 years with piles of guitars, amps and effects chasing tone it is truly an amazing time to be a guitarist. Cheers!
Thank you for the episode, guys. The best way to start off the weekend. Cheers!
I'm seeing a lot of comments asking why should the guys try to make this sound like another pedal. For me, that's missing the point.
I think the take away here is that if there's a sound you have in your head or are searching for, this pedal can probably nail it.
Great video guys
Erm. Yah!
I just adore the way Dan says "tomato"
I do a Frantone hep kat in to a kingsley page with some tape echo - haven't really changed much at will with that core tone but I will say that this channel definitely makes me think...
12:17 holy crap I cant believe he dialed that in.. I am so close to ordering one
My reaction to the ending of the intro was the same as Mick's. Incredible work as always guys!
Can't wait to get off of work to watch this. Have been waiting for it. The Automatone is like the kemper of pedals. Over the last 3 weeks of owning the Automatone I have had a lot of fun trying to replicate my other dirt pedals. It can do just about anything. And do it well.
It’s not like the Kemper at all! The Kemper doesn’t sound like the amps it models (especially loud and with pedals).... but the Automatone kinda does. Convincingly.... and even it’s not the same, it’s every bit as good!
That Pedal Show Andertons did a video challenge of their owner trying to guess the real amp vs. the Kemper and he can’t tell the difference. That video seemed to be in high volume. So I’m wondering about the high volume part of your comment in context to that video.
But it doesn’t take pedals well? I haven’t seen tests on that before, it would be very helpful for us prospective buyers if you can make a video of how well profilers and modellers could take in your fav pedals in the show 😊
@@ThatPedalShow hahaha, that's not what I meant. What I was trying to say is that the Automatone does a great job at replicating every other dirt box on my board. Sort of how the kemper "replicates amps". In another words i have "copied my other dirt pedals". Then sold them on reverb. Some are spot on in feel and tone. Others are very very close. I have the Automatone, it is beyond great. And the fuzz is next level
This! This is what I've been waiting for! Holy ****! Can't believe how it basically nailed everything and even sounded better in some situations. The biggest one that I was interested in was the fuzz since hardly any other videos really covered that aspect and can I just say DAYAMN... Fuzzface. Done. Great job boys! But now I may have to spend more money. Why do you do this to me...
You guys really have the best musical comedy routine going on you tube, its such a fabulous relationship , we really love you two dearly. A big Thanx !
Holy shizbangs, the Dirty Mac into the Matchless sounds magnificent.
Well I’ll be damned; the tomatotone is way closer to each of these than I imagined possible. Now to find out if it’s drink proof before it goes on a tour board (not that we’ll be out on the road anytime soon). Amazing show per usual, thank you guys so much for being the twice weekly highlight of my week.
All my Love,
Aaron
EF86 channel, Tele and a treble booster - I remember the days of the muddy Angry Charlie and I approve! But that could just be my hearing loss talking
I feel that the Automatone got closer to the pedal sounds than most of their budget replicas.
Ha! Yeah, just a bit!
Extraordinary. Did not expect it to get that close. Wow.
This really shows the versatility of the Ourtomatotone.
I feel a great disturbance in the Force...
Like millions of souls across the universe looking for the perfect set of boutique and rare pedals suddenly screemed out in pain...
Hahahaha
God how I wished you would have played a million miles away by Rory Gallagher when you said “not a million miles away”. You guys should talk more about Gallagher when using AC30 and treble booster. He is the king of that combo and also the greatest guitar player of all time. Great video
Dan and Mick, you both receive well deserved accolades for the playing ability in your hands. You both are truly amazing. I’m more impressed and envious of your ears and your ability to dial in one pedal to exactly match another, or to tweak an amp and pedals to glorious tones. The more I tweak the more the sounds get worse. I keep going back to noon and bump from there and it just doesn’t seem to get the magic like you both get. As for the Automatone vs the pedals... Even when set to noon the pedals still sound great which is why I buy them. When I finally get a setting I like, I switch guitars and the old settings are wrong and I have to tweak all over again. This never sounds bad when you swap guitars though. I understand that once the settings are stored in the Automatone it automatically returns itself to those settings, and I could store settings for different guitars. I can’t see me having to dial in the Automatone in the first place as there are too many options to shape tone and my ears are just not good enough. I avoid modeling amps for the same reason. Give me tried and true analog pedals and amps and I’ll spin knobs and some days match the right guitar with the right settings and hear the magic. A blind squirrel can find a nut once in a while... :D John
Had to go back and rewatch this one. Most surprised by the fuzz face. Got to get one. Thanks gents!