Adventure is such an underrated LP. Could never understand that when it came out. I mean Foxhole alone... Glad you highlighted the Alchemy, another gem, with Lloyd's finest playing.
Thanks for the review. I was super late to the party with Marquee Moon, but it’s one of my favorites. I distinctly remember seeing this record in the collection of an old friend who turned me onto Big Star in 1980. I wish we had listened to this record way back then.
Excellent, and detailed, review. This is what we are here for. As for MM, I think the improvement potential for this album over the original is slim. Like you suggest, Mazzy, that angularity, edgy sound is this album's hallmark. It doesn't make for a creamy, open-sounding audiophile experience in my view. But it certainly is a stellar album.
Excellent review Mazzy! I saw Matthew Sweet on my bday in college and after many, many shots I recall a friend mentioning that one or more members of Television were in Sweet's backing band that evening (whoever they were, they were amazing (I know one of them played on the single "Girlfriend")). Very much looking forward to this as I have only sampled it a few times in the past...fun to explore something new'ish & especially when its AAA + Kevin Gray!
Sonically, Television had a lot in common with fellow CBGB regulars Talking Heads, circa 1977. I think TV's 1978 follow-up, "Adventure," is underrated, mainly because that first record was so great. (It's that "sophomore slump" thing, maybe.) My original copy still sounds wonderful to me (and I have it on CD, of course, too -- for a cleaner audio experience) but if the Rhino version reveals something new, I'll definitely pick it up. Thanks for the tip.
i wish you or steve would’ve compared this to the chris bellman cut from a few years back. that one is readily available at about half the cost and sounds wonderful.
I am excited for Television! I have been streaming it for the past couple weeks in my commute and have been wanting to add it to my collection so the timing of this release is perfect!
Thanks Mazzy for bringing this reissue to my notice....Although I live in the UK, I couldn't resist this and ordered one last night. That'll be 6 vinyl versions I have now (I know I'm ill😕😁)
The Rhino Hi Fi Van Morrison was "His Band and the Street Choir" and it does sound fantastic! I have all 6 so far but I'm not a Jazz fan per se, so since I am not familiar with Television, I think I will pass on both these Jan 12th titles. I am in for Candy-O without a doubt! The 6 Rhino Hi-Fi's I have all sound fabulous so I expect these two will as well. Cheers
If you like nice dueling and scorching guitar work you definitely don't want to pass on anything by Television or Tom Verlaine for that matter!! Forget the jazz connotation...just think long drawn out guitar solos.
Great overview of one of my favorite bands/artists, maybe even convinced me to plunk down cash for another copy in addition to my treasured original. My only addition would be to highly recommend Bryan Waterman 's 33 1/3 book on "Marquee Moon." Waterman does a really great job of painting a picture of the time and place out of which Television sprang. Sadly for them, they spent so much time perfecting that first record that the market moment passed them by so that when it came out they were somewhat "old news" in pop music terms.
2003 was… more than 10 or 11 years ago 😅 picked up that live record this year and it’s awesome. I’m lucky enough to have an og of marquee moon but it’s not in perfect shape so I might have to pick this one up
Thanks for that Mazzy. Enjoyed that. I had Marquee Moon when it first appeared. A very unique and under-appreciated album. Certainly a record I return to regularly. Also have the follow-up but never really warmed to it in the same way. I'm going to give it another go. I think perhaps it had tough act to follow and maybe I was a little over-critical.
I have this on CD only so I'm definitely going to get a copy. I'm an Ornette Coleman fan so I'm not missing the other release as well. I haven't been this excited about the Rhino HF releases since its initial launch.
I've got the 2012 Rhino 180g release with Chris Bellman, mastered at RTI and pressed by Optimal. I also noticed that Rhino took the same cut and released a Magenta version in 2015, a Blue Marble in 2018, and finally a clear vinyl in 2022. I feel like Rhino just keeps going back to the well on this one. Will the Kevin Grey cut be that much better and for $40? I'm a bit skeptical.
Television’s self titled third album from 1992 has never been reissued on vinyl (I don’t count the 4MWB one). The OG was only ever released on vinyl in Europe. It gets dismissed as just a Tom Verlaine record disguised as Television and not particularly good, but I think it’s great. Tom seemed not to care or didn’t know how to promote himself and the record didn’t do well. It certainly didn’t sound like a return to form ala Marquee Moon. Nevertheless, it’s a sleeper and highly recommended, especially if you were still a Television fan after Adventure came out.
I think the third album stands up. It's got some fantastic tracks on it - "Call Mr Lee", "1880 or So" and "Rhyme" in particular. I was lucky enough to see them a few times in London after this record came out, a couple of times when Richard Lloyd was still in the band. The extended jams around 1880 were amazing live. RIP Tom V. No doubt now tuning up in heaven...
The new pressing FINALLY arrived last night and I ran both my 2012 pressing and the new Rhino release through my HumminGuru. Just listened to Side 1 from the 2012 pressing and then the new release. I was expecting them to be pretty similar, and they are when compared to the CD or the original pressing. But there’s really no contest here. I never felt it before, but hearing the new pressing I think the 2012 may have been mastered a little bit too hot. And considering I’m running a Rega cart through a Rega phono preamp, I don’t think it’s any chance of a setup issue like a voltage mismatch. Things I chalked up to the master recordings like some unwanted abrasion and sibilants in the hotter vocals are gone on the new press. It still has the same vibe but it’s an easier listen. A little extra headroom seems to also allow a little more depth and character to the drums. It’s still a very top-heavy mix, the bass guitar was never intended to have a lot of rumble and the kick drum isn’t micd very well, but this new pressing is much more pleasing than the 2012, even though they are still more similar than they are different.
Good Morning, Mazzy! To be honest, I would not say that The Cars first album is that rare or challenging either. But, of course, I am a huge Captain and Me fan!
I JUST got this and I'm SUPER glad I did. I had the CB cut, and sold it a while ago. HOPING that KG would get a chance at it. Well, I'm more than PLEASED. I can actually CRANK this album now and it really does make all the difference. SO, if you're someone with the CB cut and are on the fence .... if you love this album, GET IT. It's more than a minimal difference for me. I JUST played it and want to play it again, LOUDER. So that's what I'm gonna do. I've never heard an OG, but had the 2018 and the CB cut, and several CD versions.
One of my favorite albums is Warm and Cool, Tom Verlaine's album on Rykodisc in 1992. It's a noirish, reverbby guitar instrumental album that was apparently mostly improvised in the studio. It only came out on vinyl in the UK on Rough Trade, and I happened to score a decent copy from Amoeba's online store for a not too bad price like 10 years ago. This album and his two 2006 albums came out on Thrill Jockey pretty much because Doug McCombs of Tortoise was a huge fan of Warm and Cool. I happened to see Doug and David Daniell on their tour for Sycamore and talked to him a bit before the show and we talked about Warm and Cool. He wasn't aware that there was a vinyl version of it, so he was very interested in tracking a copy down. I hope he did!
What's your take on Guided By Voices? I've known them but just got into them would love see you talk a little bit about them or what's your favorite albums are? since they're so prolific huge discography and interesting band. Love your channel
Got to be honest, I’d rather play my original release than any remixed or remastered one, I like my music the way it was when I first heard it, don’t need perfect sound, don’t need anything other than the music, a great album nonetheless. I had the pleasure of seeing them live in Glasgow Scotland back in 1977, supported by Blondie.
I'll consider getting this, but after owning the Bellman cut (which is said to be similar), I have my doubts. MM is a jangly ring of fire, and that's how it's been since day one, and for good reason. Bellman lost me on the opening track, the opening chords of See No Evil just don't have the bite, the edge, and everything is slightly smoothed out. It's not what we got originally, and it's that original version that stays in my head, and is why I fell in love with it.
There is also the live tape blow up issued by rior (usa and uk issues) whichbalso have been put to vinyl (as far as I remember a french label) energetic. I also happened to hear the Television Eno demos. Great stuff. Why does Rhino do not isdue all of these in a nice box with or wirhout the capitol album which I own cd only. Cheers from Germany Klaus
Hey pretty damn nice should sound pretty damn good then so let's forget about all the comparisons and get back to what really counts...the music!! I applaud all the record companies reissuing these days. Think of all the great titles and artists they've introduced and made available especially to newcomers in the VC who've never heard of them or for somebody like me who might have a worn out copy that needs replacing!
I only had the cd and it lacked but I wouldn’t know why? It just had a narrow frequency but I loved the record. I just don’t know….The guitars…. The riffs! P.S….ahh…. And I have new big speakers. I love it when you hear the connective tissue.
Curious about this pressing for sure, absolutely a classic. Does the title track get faded out the way it does on the original? More recent pressings I know how the full mix I believe. It's another 30-40 seconds
For those asking about the title track Marquee Moon, they do use the full-length version, which times out at 10:44 (I timed it), although the label says 9:58.
I was given an advance copy of this album, a few months before it was originally released. It's a classic album, of course. The songs here are concise epics. Tom V is a one off. He doesn't use blues cliches. Tom learnt the sax at first, way back when he was young. People, wrongly, keep harping on about the Grateful Dead, which is, frankly nonsense. People who say that ( Simon Reynolds ) have obviously never heard both groups.Rest In Peace Tom.
Cool. Coolcoolcool. I spent years with various thin and overly bright pressings of Marquee Moon, and finally found one that sounds great. No it’s not an audiophile recording but some of those reissues lack punch, not dissimilar to the problem with some Big Star #1 Record and Radio City pressings. Everyone talks about the guitar interplay on Marquee Moon, which is great but it’s the sound of the drums that “elevates” this album for me. One of my top five rock albums of all time. @Norman Maslov did I hear correctly that you feel this new reissue slightly edges out your white label promo?
I still have my og and a Rocktober edition but now I’m curious on how this one will sound. Mazzy is this available now? I checked the Rhino website but I didn’t see anything listed for Television.
What? No mention of the 1992 Capitol Release "Television" with the original band, Richard Lloyd, Fred Smith, Billy Fica.......Excellent CD, 'Call Mr. Lee' is a standout song, also 'Shane, she wrote this' . Tom Verlaine is top notch on this disc.
'...i belong to the blank generation...'...that was a time..all the cbgb bands were putting out albums..tuff darts..the shirts..the laughing dogs..etc..and none of them really sold much (not even the ramones or blondie)..the talking heads and patti were two of the successful few with their debuts..but we all bought all of them and just loved the idea of the opportunity (especially those of us in bands..)..rich lloyd once noted how back then a few gigs a month would take care of the bills and you could spend the rest of the time working on music..now you need a full time job to cover your nut and have no time for the music.. so true..but thanks for memories of better days.. peace my friend..rocky
Inquiring minds wants to know: As the 2012 re-issue was mastered by the great Greg Calbi and pressed at RTI & Optimal, what's the difference between this one and the 2012? And if you have that one, what would make your purchase this one?
I do not have that one. I t the OG , so I cannot comment on it. Some of us have somewhat of preference on mastering engineers and their gear. I usually, not always, prefer KGs work and chain.
I wonder about this Old Waldorf live album...? I'd love to hear more Television music, but I don't think I'd bother picking this one up unless I thought it was going to be a much better recording than The Blow Up. As much as I love Television, I never listen to my copy of The Blow Up, as it's just too rough. What's the verdict on this new Old Waldorf live LP? Also, Mazzy... Check out more of Tom Verlaine's stuff. I own most of his albums and most of them I really dig. His music I an acquired taste, to be sure (moreso than Television), but if you like Dreamtime, you would probably like lots of his other stuff. I happen to think that Television reunion album from the 90s sounds more like a Verlaine album than a Television one, and I would say that it doesn't stack up to the best Verlaine stuff, unfortunately.
I have original Sires of the first two Television albums in near mint that I acquired at used record store in Durango, CO circa 1995. Originals of these didn't really make it to Colorado/Midwest much unlike the Talking Heads/Blondie based on my bin browsing. The press release doesn't say that the new Rhino's are AAA, but as you said ,Mazzy, the punk stuff wasn't really mastered for great sound at the time. Think I will purchase as I'm always up for better bass and drums, which is why I like these records other than Verlaine and Lloyd.
it's good to have someone stand up for the doobie brothers "the captain and me" when there are far "cooler" records to praise in the first weeks of 2024. it's hard to believe that van was relatively "skint" in 1971. i'm glad JL got to see Television...
Saw them open for Peter Gabriel . They were booed so badly they left the stage after a few songs. I’ll never understand why or how an audience can be that rude.
All Life is in Marquee Moon As Norman Equates suss out one of the universe's best ever record Television Marquee Moon It will stay by your side forever once experienced ❤❤❤❤❤❤
The description of this video should have included the hashtag for paid promotion. The opening minute should have included a graphic saying "paid promotion". You were paid with a free record to do a commercial for Rhino; the last minute featured you telling people to order it now and how to do so. If you are ever unsure about the definition of a shill, you should re-watch this video. If you want to take payola to pimp a product, so be it, but you should be extremely obvious about it. Not cool. You embody what the CZcams Vinyl Community has become. Tom
I have them all, except the Doobies. The Herbie Hancock is the best IMO. Im skipping Television and the jazz selection. Great choice, i just dont enjoy Television to repeat listen.
I’ve always had Television Marquee Moon on 12inch 45rpm from when it was released in 1977. It’s stereo on the A side and Mono on the B side. One of those must have records at the time. All the music critics went all in on this particular track! Hearing it again, the bass is so much louder/punchy than the album version imo!
Adventure is very good too. However the record took a long time to come out. They toured the UK at the time and you couldn't get the album. I saw Television three times 77,78 and 93. All those times in the UK - I live here. I lived in West London at the time. Alchemy is a good album. Richards voice is ok, but not great. Tom's voice is not great eirher, but it's conversational, which I like! Thanks for the reviews and insights.
I finally got my Marquee Moon. Who can’t like this? It sounds amazing and I have heard the OG a million times. I agree side 2 seems better sounding than side 1 🫤. Great release. Don’t need the OG. Just get this one while it lasts.
Adventure is such an underrated LP. Could never understand that when it came out. I mean Foxhole alone... Glad you highlighted the Alchemy, another gem, with Lloyd's finest playing.
The Fire is a magnificent song!
I remember how the darkness doubled
I recall lightning struck itself.
Brilliant! Love it forever.
I'll take marquee moon over Rumours any old day. i'm not sure what this says about me.
One of my favorite albums. Absolutely love the guitar interplay. Side 1 is perfection.
Agree, but I found that this time, I was really more engaged with side two. All around a cool album.
I love Marquee Moon…this vid Makes me think of Matthew Sweet . Richard Lloyd and Robert Quine did amazing things on Sweet’s records
Said a mouthful!!
Thanks for the review. I was super late to the party with Marquee Moon, but it’s one of my favorites. I distinctly remember seeing this record in the collection of an old friend who turned me onto Big Star in 1980. I wish we had listened to this record way back then.
Big Star and Television are two of the greatest underrecognized bands of the 70s! Two of the greatest bands of that era period, really...
I just bought this a week ago Mazzy. It was great to see your review of this so soon after I brought it home. Cheers!
Excellent, and detailed, review. This is what we are here for.
As for MM, I think the improvement potential for this album over the original is slim. Like you suggest, Mazzy, that angularity, edgy sound is this album's hallmark. It doesn't make for a creamy, open-sounding audiophile experience in my view. But it certainly is a stellar album.
"See No Evil" is definitely one of my favorite songs from the late 1970s. 👍
So good 😎
Thank you Mr. M. Yes, this Lp is a must for any Rock & Roll fan... And let's not forget Richard Lloyd's work on Matthew Sweet's Lp Girlfriend !
Yes, and Intervention Records did a fantastic version of that album.
I had no idea….that explains so much.
Classic Records too@@mazzysmusic
This was also cut by Chris Bellman in 2012 and is still available. I wonder how much better this would be.
Excellent review Mazzy! I saw Matthew Sweet on my bday in college and after many, many shots I recall a friend mentioning that one or more members of Television were in Sweet's backing band that evening (whoever they were, they were amazing (I know one of them played on the single "Girlfriend")). Very much looking forward to this as I have only sampled it a few times in the past...fun to explore something new'ish & especially when its AAA + Kevin Gray!
Sonically, Television had a lot in common with fellow CBGB regulars Talking Heads, circa 1977. I think TV's 1978 follow-up, "Adventure," is underrated, mainly because that first record was so great. (It's that "sophomore slump" thing, maybe.) My original copy still sounds wonderful to me (and I have it on CD, of course, too -- for a cleaner audio experience) but if the Rhino version reveals something new, I'll definitely pick it up. Thanks for the tip.
Adventure is a great record. Very underrated!
Awesome review! Been thinking about picking up a copy of Marquee Moon. Definitely will now!
Hope you enjoy it ✌🏼
just a classic album, what a great time in music! thanks Mazzy, might consider getting this one
I love your storied, detailed presentation of albums.. please don’t change a thing
Thank you. I won’t ever change 🤠
i wish you or steve would’ve compared this to the chris bellman cut from a few years back. that one is readily available at about half the cost and sounds wonderful.
I don't have that copy. Not sure if Steve does either??
Who cares at half the price go for it!
I am excited for Television! I have been streaming it for the past couple weeks in my commute and have been wanting to add it to my collection so the timing of this release is perfect!
Thanks Mazzy for bringing this reissue to my notice....Although I live in the UK, I couldn't resist this and ordered one last night. That'll be 6 vinyl versions I have now (I know I'm ill😕😁)
Thanks sir. I will be picking this up. Good to have three copies
The Rhino Hi Fi Van Morrison was "His Band and the Street Choir" and it does sound fantastic! I have all 6 so far but I'm not a Jazz fan per se, so since I am not familiar with Television, I think I will pass on both these Jan 12th titles. I am in for Candy-O without a doubt! The 6 Rhino Hi-Fi's I have all sound fabulous so I expect these two will as well. Cheers
If you like nice dueling and scorching guitar work you definitely don't want to pass on anything by Television or Tom Verlaine for that matter!! Forget the jazz connotation...just think long drawn out guitar solos.
Great overview of one of my favorite bands/artists, maybe even convinced me to plunk down cash for another copy in addition to my treasured original. My only addition would be to highly recommend Bryan Waterman 's 33 1/3 book on "Marquee Moon." Waterman does a really great job of painting a picture of the time and place out of which Television sprang. Sadly for them, they spent so much time perfecting that first record that the market moment passed them by so that when it came out they were somewhat "old news" in pop music terms.
2003 was… more than 10 or 11 years ago 😅 picked up that live record this year and it’s awesome. I’m lucky enough to have an og of marquee moon but it’s not in perfect shape so I might have to pick this one up
Thanks for that Mazzy. Enjoyed that. I had Marquee Moon when it first appeared. A very unique and under-appreciated album. Certainly a record I return to regularly. Also have the follow-up but never really warmed to it in the same way. I'm going to give it another go. I think perhaps it had tough act to follow and maybe I was a little over-critical.
Great review, Mazzy. Thanks for sharing your thoughts :-)
I thought I didn’t like Adventure, but heard a cover of ‘Days’ by Real Estate and went back to the original.
Love “ Days “ !
you’re right mazzy the richard lloyd sound you’re talking about is through a (cranked) twin reverb.
I have this on CD only so I'm definitely going to get a copy. I'm an Ornette Coleman fan so I'm not missing the other release as well. I haven't been this excited about the Rhino HF releases since its initial launch.
Thank you for this.
I've got the 2012 Rhino 180g release with Chris Bellman, mastered at RTI and pressed by Optimal. I also noticed that Rhino took the same cut and released a Magenta version in 2015, a Blue Marble in 2018, and finally a clear vinyl in 2022. I feel like Rhino just keeps going back to the well on this one. Will the Kevin Grey cut be that much better and for $40? I'm a bit skeptical.
Just ordered it. The Cars album in this series sounded great and had excellent packaging so hopefully this will be in the same vein.
5 star album , no questions asked
Television’s self titled third album from 1992 has never been reissued on vinyl (I don’t count the 4MWB one). The OG was only ever released on vinyl in Europe. It gets dismissed as just a Tom Verlaine record disguised as Television and not particularly good, but I think it’s great. Tom seemed not to care or didn’t know how to promote himself and the record didn’t do well. It certainly didn’t sound like a return to form ala Marquee Moon. Nevertheless, it’s a sleeper and highly recommended, especially if you were still a Television fan after Adventure came out.
Music is in the ears of the beholder.
I think the third album stands up. It's got some fantastic tracks on it - "Call Mr Lee", "1880 or So" and "Rhyme" in particular. I was lucky enough to see them a few times in London after this record came out, a couple of times when Richard Lloyd was still in the band. The extended jams around 1880 were amazing live. RIP Tom V. No doubt now tuning up in heaven...
The self-titled album from 1992 is really good, if you don't have it I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.
I love this album. I first heard it T high-school (which was a bit ago, but not as long ago as it came out)
It’s brilliant
The new pressing FINALLY arrived last night and I ran both my 2012 pressing and the new Rhino release through my HumminGuru.
Just listened to Side 1 from the 2012 pressing and then the new release. I was expecting them to be pretty similar, and they are when compared to the CD or the original pressing.
But there’s really no contest here.
I never felt it before, but hearing the new pressing I think the 2012 may have been mastered a little bit too hot. And considering I’m running a Rega cart through a Rega phono preamp, I don’t think it’s any chance of a setup issue like a voltage mismatch.
Things I chalked up to the master recordings like some unwanted abrasion and sibilants in the hotter vocals are gone on the new press. It still has the same vibe but it’s an easier listen. A little extra headroom seems to also allow a little more depth and character to the drums.
It’s still a very top-heavy mix, the bass guitar was never intended to have a lot of rumble and the kick drum isn’t micd very well, but this new pressing is much more pleasing than the 2012, even though they are still more similar than they are different.
Yes Marquee moon oh dear a massive classic wonderful Mazzy! My favourite track was however Foxhole from the Adventure album!
Saw so many great shows at the Old Waldorf
Agree on Floyd's Animals; MM was released in Feb 77 while Animals the previous month, so has to be a coincidence re 'Elevation' - great review
I also love Lloyd's guitar sound on Matthew Sweet's "Girlfriend." (The title track.)
Good Morning, Mazzy! To be honest, I would not say that The Cars first album is that rare or challenging either. But, of course, I am a huge Captain and Me fan!
Thanks for the "Richard Lloyd Alchemy" mention-it’s a toe tapper, fer sure :)
I JUST got this and I'm SUPER glad I did. I had the CB cut, and sold it a while ago. HOPING that KG would get a chance at it. Well, I'm more than PLEASED.
I can actually CRANK this album now and it really does make all the difference.
SO, if you're someone with the CB cut and are on the fence .... if you love this album, GET IT. It's more than a minimal difference for me. I JUST played it and want to play it again, LOUDER.
So that's what I'm gonna do.
I've never heard an OG, but had the 2018 and the CB cut, and several CD versions.
Agree with you ✌🏼
Ah shit never bought this on vinyl, thanks for the reminder. I will definitely buy a good version of this :)
Mazzy! Nice piece of kit in the Hegel. Care to share the rest of your system with us?
One of my favorite albums is Warm and Cool, Tom Verlaine's album on Rykodisc in 1992. It's a noirish, reverbby guitar instrumental album that was apparently mostly improvised in the studio. It only came out on vinyl in the UK on Rough Trade, and I happened to score a decent copy from Amoeba's online store for a not too bad price like 10 years ago. This album and his two 2006 albums came out on Thrill Jockey pretty much because Doug McCombs of Tortoise was a huge fan of Warm and Cool. I happened to see Doug and David Daniell on their tour for Sycamore and talked to him a bit before the show and we talked about Warm and Cool. He wasn't aware that there was a vinyl version of it, so he was very interested in tracking a copy down. I hope he did!
I have that on CD. Yeah really cool ✌🏼
I have the 2012 Rhino re-release. No complaints.
Have the OG. Haven't played it in decades. Guess I'll blow the dust off it & give it a spin!
What's your take on Guided By Voices? I've known them but just got into them would love see you talk a little bit about them or what's your favorite albums are? since they're so prolific huge discography and interesting band. Love your channel
Great band! Love "Mag Earwhig".
Isolation Drills #1
The late, great Tom Verlaine. Marquee Moon and his solo catalogue are a testament to his mostly unheralded talents.
Got to be honest, I’d rather play my original release than any remixed or remastered one, I like my music the way it was when I first heard it, don’t need perfect sound, don’t need anything other than the music, a great album nonetheless. I had the pleasure of seeing them live in Glasgow Scotland back in 1977, supported by Blondie.
Lucky to see Television in Glasgow at Greens Playhouse. They complained how cold they were…lol
I'll consider getting this, but after owning the Bellman cut (which is said to be similar), I have my doubts. MM is a jangly ring of fire, and that's how it's been since day one, and for good reason. Bellman lost me on the opening track, the opening chords of See No Evil just don't have the bite, the edge, and everything is slightly smoothed out. It's not what we got originally, and it's that original version that stays in my head, and is why I fell in love with it.
Marquee moon. Top 10 debut albums for me.
There is also the live tape blow up issued by rior (usa and uk issues) whichbalso have been put to vinyl (as far as I remember a french label) energetic. I also happened to hear the Television Eno demos. Great stuff. Why does Rhino do not isdue all of these in a nice box with or wirhout the capitol album which I own cd only. Cheers from Germany Klaus
Would love to know how this compares to the 2012 Elektra/Rhino reissue, which I have on right now and it sounds pretty damn nice.
Haven’t heard that edition
Hey pretty damn nice should sound pretty damn good then so let's forget about all the comparisons and get back to what really counts...the music!! I applaud all the record companies reissuing these days. Think of all the great titles and artists they've introduced and made available especially to newcomers in the VC who've never heard of them or for somebody like me who might have a worn out copy that needs replacing!
@@louismartinez7387 Just trying to figure out if it's worth the $40 if I already have a 2012 copy. Already ordered, so don't worry.
I only had the cd and it lacked but I wouldn’t know why?
It just had a narrow frequency but I loved the record. I just don’t know….The guitars…. The riffs!
P.S….ahh…. And I have new big speakers. I love it when you hear the connective tissue.
Curious about this pressing for sure, absolutely a classic. Does the title track get faded out the way it does on the original? More recent pressings I know how the full mix I believe. It's another 30-40 seconds
For those asking about the title track Marquee Moon, they do use the full-length version, which times out at 10:44 (I timed it), although the label says 9:58.
I was given an advance copy of this album, a few months before it was originally released. It's a classic album, of course. The songs here are concise epics. Tom V is a one off. He doesn't use blues cliches. Tom learnt the sax at first, way back when he was young. People, wrongly, keep harping on about the Grateful Dead, which is, frankly nonsense. People who say that ( Simon Reynolds ) have obviously never heard both groups.Rest In Peace Tom.
Hey Mazzy gotta try Tom Verlaines COVER 1984 release on WB and FLASH LIGHT 1987 release IRS...I have both on cassette and vinyl and both sound great!
Brilliant album, seminal
Cool. Coolcoolcool. I spent years with various thin and overly bright pressings of Marquee Moon, and finally found one that sounds great. No it’s not an audiophile recording but some of those reissues lack punch, not dissimilar to the problem with some Big Star #1 Record and Radio City pressings. Everyone talks about the guitar interplay on Marquee Moon, which is great but it’s the sound of the drums that “elevates” this album for me. One of my top five rock albums of all time. @Norman Maslov did I hear correctly that you feel this new reissue slightly edges out your white label promo?
Yes you heard correctly.
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In interviews Richard Lloyd pronounces Billy Ficca's name "ficka" (rhymes with My Friend Flicka).
I still have my og and a Rocktober edition but now I’m curious on how this one will sound. Mazzy is this available now? I checked the Rhino website but I didn’t see anything listed for Television.
Same- just checked out the site to immediately order upon seeing this vid and it wasn’t on there.
What? No mention of the 1992 Capitol Release "Television" with the original band, Richard Lloyd, Fred Smith, Billy Fica.......Excellent CD, 'Call Mr. Lee' is a standout song, also 'Shane, she wrote this' . Tom Verlaine is top notch on this disc.
'...i belong to the blank generation...'...that was a time..all the cbgb bands were putting out albums..tuff darts..the shirts..the laughing dogs..etc..and none of them really sold much (not even the ramones or blondie)..the talking heads and patti were two of the successful few with their debuts..but we all bought all of them and just loved the idea of the opportunity (especially those of us in bands..)..rich lloyd once noted how back then a few gigs a month would take care of the bills and you could spend the rest of the time working on music..now you need a full time job to cover your nut and have no time for the music.. so true..but thanks for memories of better days.. peace my friend..rocky
Thanks for your comments as usual and your wonderful book of words. Yeah this is right in your musical hood. As is my upcoming video ✌🏼🤠
Totally agree with you about the Pink Floyd reference. What a great album! Are you happy with this reissue? Ordered my copy today :)
I am enjoying this version ✌🏼
I'll buy this one and Candy-O
Came right over...
Inquiring minds wants to know: As the 2012 re-issue was mastered by the great Greg Calbi and pressed at RTI & Optimal, what's the difference between this one and the 2012? And if you have that one, what would make your purchase this one?
I do not have that one. I t the OG , so I cannot comment on it. Some of us have somewhat of preference on mastering engineers and their gear. I usually, not always, prefer KGs work and chain.
I wonder about this Old Waldorf live album...? I'd love to hear more Television music, but I don't think I'd bother picking this one up unless I thought it was going to be a much better recording than The Blow Up. As much as I love Television, I never listen to my copy of The Blow Up, as it's just too rough. What's the verdict on this new Old Waldorf live LP?
Also, Mazzy... Check out more of Tom Verlaine's stuff. I own most of his albums and most of them I really dig. His music I an acquired taste, to be sure (moreso than Television), but if you like Dreamtime, you would probably like lots of his other stuff.
I happen to think that Television reunion album from the 90s sounds more like a Verlaine album than a Television one, and I would say that it doesn't stack up to the best Verlaine stuff, unfortunately.
I have original Sires of the first two Television albums in near mint that I acquired at used record store in Durango, CO circa 1995. Originals of these didn't really make it to Colorado/Midwest much unlike the Talking Heads/Blondie based on my bin browsing.
The press release doesn't say that the new Rhino's are AAA, but as you said ,Mazzy, the punk stuff wasn't really mastered for great sound at the time. Think I will purchase as I'm always up for better bass and drums, which is why I like these records other than Verlaine and Lloyd.
All these Rhino HiFi series are all analog aaa. At some point there may be some from digital when the hit records from the 90s and beyond.
The pinnacle.
Remember it well , brother an I played this to death.
hi Massey. 1st from Glasgow.
it's good to have someone stand up for the doobie brothers "the captain and me" when there are far "cooler" records to praise in the first weeks of 2024. it's hard to believe that van was relatively "skint" in 1971. i'm glad JL got to see Television...
Doobies made great records
I do not see this album on the Rhino website.
The next two: Television and Ornette Coleman, will be available to buy this Friday, January 12th and ship soon afterward
i cannot find any information about this limited reissue at the Rhino site.
The Television and the Ornette Coleman Jazz order links will go live on Friday, Jan 12th and they will ship pretty quickly.
@@mazzysmusic thanks. now it seems it is sold out but luckily I ordered a few days before it did and I am waiting on Rhino to ship it.
Saw them open for Peter Gabriel . They were booed so badly they left the stage after a few songs. I’ll never understand why or how an audience can be that rude.
All Life is in Marquee Moon
As Norman Equates suss out one of the universe's best ever record Television Marquee Moon
It will stay by your side forever once experienced ❤❤❤❤❤❤
22nd best album of all time for me! I bought the 12 inch single when it came out, and then the album. Adventure though was a big disappointment.
You are fast 😂
I wish you would devote part of your video presentation to playing a song
I do occasionally. Copyright doesn’t always allow me. ✌🏼
The description of this video should have included the hashtag for paid promotion. The opening minute should have included a graphic saying "paid promotion". You were paid with a free record to do a commercial for Rhino; the last minute featured you telling people to order it now and how to do so.
If you are ever unsure about the definition of a shill, you should re-watch this video. If you want to take payola to pimp a product, so be it, but you should be extremely obvious about it.
Not cool. You embody what the CZcams Vinyl Community has become.
Tom
Why do you wear a hat indoors?
His roof leaks .
I have them all, except the Doobies. The Herbie Hancock is the best IMO. Im skipping Television and the jazz selection. Great choice, i just dont enjoy Television to repeat listen.
I’ve always had Television Marquee Moon on 12inch 45rpm from when it was released in 1977. It’s stereo on the A side and Mono on the B side. One of those must have records at the time. All the music critics went all in on this particular track! Hearing it again, the bass is so much louder/punchy than the album version imo!
What ‘77 pressing of it is 45rpm?
@@PluralofvinylisvinylsIt’s listed on Discogs, Special Limited Edition!
@@Pluralofvinylisvinylsthe UK 12” single has stereo and mono versions of Marquee Moon. It came out in an Elektra generic 12” Cover, not picture sleeve
@@dylanmccoubrey5615 oh ok I thought he meant the whole album
Immigrant from Gene Loves Jezebel is ten times and more than anything Television ever was.
Cool. Didn’t know it was a competition, like football. 🤷🏻♂️
Adventure is very good too. However the record took a long time to come out. They toured the UK at the time and you couldn't get the album. I saw Television three times 77,78 and 93. All those times in the UK - I live here. I lived in West London at the time. Alchemy is a good album. Richards voice is ok, but not great. Tom's voice is not great eirher, but it's conversational, which I like! Thanks for the reviews and insights.
I finally got my Marquee Moon. Who can’t like this? It sounds amazing and I have heard the OG a million times. I agree side 2 seems better sounding than side 1 🫤. Great release. Don’t need the OG. Just get this one while it lasts.