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Here’s a question, why are there so many youtubers fawning over this thing. Are they on the cut? Is it just the free stuff tommy sends? Did he invite them to a party, got everyone drunk and took compromising photos of them?
One more thing -- we glossed over the embarrassing use of stock photos of families that were photoshopped to change their PS4 controllers into Amico controllers. Here's a vid showing that: czcams.com/video/KKSbcV3Jc5Q/video.html
Don't forget. What happen to Perrin Kaplan. The wiz from the nintendo wii marketing team. And that J Allard downgraded his title to "advisor". What's that all about.
Here is some more news. Turbojoe said that Tommy has a daily private chat with his shills. That's access media 101. S T brought this up about youtube sponsor rules. brands.joinstatus.com/youtube-sponsorships
This was a good analysis of a lil company that is trying VERY HARD to be taken seriously, while making clowns of themselves the whole time. It's like going to a job interview with toilet paper on your shoe and your fly open. Pat and Ian were way more polite and fair than they needed to be.
It is fascinating traveling back in time to revisit these Amico updates. Once everything is said and done and the Amico never comes out and people get sued or maybe even sent to prison, these will make an incredible documentary Series.
just gotta say that Pat and Ian live rent-free in head of certain Amico fans. There is this Amico podcast that happens once a week or so and they just can't stop bringing these guys up!
I'm gonna post this here because I know TT is checking these comments on the hour every hour (sup buddy, lol). This isn't 2003 anymore. The stereotype of the shut in gamer with no friends chugging Mountain Dew and Doritos is long gone. No one needs the Amico to save them from the 'evils' of modern video games because those evils do not exist. Kids these days play video games, but they also play sports, hang out with friends and family, etc. Even us adults play games, but we also have family, friends, careers and well adjusted lives, something your condescending ass can't seem to fathom. The reason the gaming community has such a negative view on this console is not because they are gatekeeping or they're somehow scared of co-op gaming (which again, is a falsehood in and of itself). The main reason everyone is so down on this console is because it's a $250 piece of crap. The games look like crap, the controller is crap and despite all the false claims, the console is not bringing anything new or exciting to the gaming market. Intellivision could have just put out a modern retro console with some pack-in games and sold it to boomers based on nostalgia, but instead TT had to put on his clown shoes and makeup and pretend the Amico is so much more than what it actually is.
There are loads of interesting comments here and on a smaller channel, self-admitted Intellivision fan cyrus martin. one guy has a webpage with proof of the intense moderation of youtube comments on Tommy's channel. Wouldn't surprise me if TT asks small channels to prune comments, too. In comments, TT is accused of giving lists of people to 'pre-ban' when he does his interviews on small channels, says a guy who showed up at one for the first time, pre-blocked. This is done from fear, if true. I read an accusation that the amico is a retro pi or very close to it, a banana pie. Maybe it wasn't in 2018, but in 2020 this could be possible. To speed production. The 'must be a new release' no ports rule is baby bottom soft, as we knew it would be. The Coleco-retro scam, what was missed is that Mike K had to have known his RetroVGS was fake since he booted it up at the toy show, and before the event. He would blame his engineer as if he was scammed too, but he knew what it was the moment he powered it up the first time.
Amico games are ps1-ps2 level, but I think I get it for mobile game fans that want to play on a big screen, play against pals at home, with better controllers. this is a nice mobile-console hybrid, but when Team Amico saw the under $200 Switch lite, nail-chewing moment, did anyone there not start drinking or punch a hole in the drywall ? Wealthly moms may not care of its low power and quality, and maybe retro fans will be forgiving. but getting out-priced by the switch lite, that has to have his team dispirited. Nes and Snes mini consoles, outprice it too, and have great controllers. Snes mini games crush what Amico has, TG16 mini as well. Switch has everything and is portable, decent controllers too unlike mobile phones. Switch fixed and stole the market I spoke about in the beginning, which is why we see so many games for the amico already on that platform, too ! If only there was some way to hook a switch up to the big TV, ah it does that. His market is not so huge after all, especially with the higher price.
An example of a project that's run well during covid would be the Evercade. They experienced a delay, but also sent out a lot of review units to CZcamsrs, and even made a day 1 update to address the criticisms from those reviews. It was run really well all around and the difference to me is that they seemed to actively want to show the product they created off to anyone who will look at it because they're proud of what they've made. It's the exact opposite of the Amico that feels like they are hiding things from consumers.
Here's the thing: If the project had built up more goodwill and a better reputation prior to the pandemic, people would have been more willing to extend them the benefit of the doubt.
@@timf7413 I agree, but that's just the tip of the iceberg. You can have a well run project that's transparent from the start, builds goodwill with potential fans, etc... but if it doesn't deliver or is underwhelming, it's still going to fall flat on it's face. The Amico costs about the same as a Switch Light with a game, so in order for it to succeed they need to come correct and deliver a product that consumer's will view as being better than a Switch at that price point. As it is now, the mobile looking games are turning off the hardcore gamers, and the unfortunate fact that Intellivision as a brand hasn't been relevant in decades means that they will still be viewed as a generic box that costs as much as the name brand one which really positions them poorly in the marketplace. It is cheaper than a regular model Switch, but not by much which is really an issue.
@@JFlickinger82 FWIW I agree they have much bigger problems (namely the ones you mention). I'm just saying that people probably would have cut them more slack over the delay if they had done more to earn it.
@@timf7413 Yeah, and there are still some people that are giving them the benefit of the doubt. I guess what I struggle with the most is how they could have built up that goodwill with what they currently have to show. Even if they handled everything really well and a lot of people wanted to see them succeed, or at the very least just trust them, I really don't see a valid business case for a $200+ box that plays games that are either currently available on mobile platforms, or look like they could be on mobile platforms. I guess it's kind of like an Nvidia Shield TV, but that's a niche device that doubles as a streaming box so even that is a little different.
Watching Tommy peddle their wares, is a lot like watching your grandma eagerly try and pump you up for the Christmas sweater she bought you..."Look Ian, a sweater! And it has a bear on it!" Thanks, Grandma.
And when you add absolutely no new sounds effect onto this demo it's also looking grim. I'm a fan of earthworm jim (the games not the show that was never released here) because it was gross and disturbing, but here we get something that looks way too much family friendly.
@@XMAlek Earthworm Jim was a fun and reasonably creative game back in the day, but even so, it's hardly a franchise I think many people have been clamming to make a comeback.
One video said the presentation was AWWW-SUMMMM!. Another said it was "Roses." There was a Pat VS Tommy video. Overall, the news of a delay led to a typical fappin' session over how KEWL this is.
The games don't matter, what matters is finding out who is Amico's Marketing Manager and hearing them talk for like 5 - 10 minutes. This is what sells consoles. BTW, anyone seen those reddit comments, brutal. Tommy can't say there are only 4 - 5 "haters" anymore.
@@charvelgtrs8960 Its on RetroBro's channel...not worth the watch as its the same spiel he's been doing for the last several months with like 1 or 2 new tidbits.
Lot's of hate against Pat and Ian, but they've been right so far. Even if they're being dicks ( which is why I like them) can't deny what they've been saying, and Tommy is feeding into it. I wish it luck though and hope it does decent.
@@TheVoidofNothing11 I'd wish it luck if it had a market, but it just... doesn't. Stadia and Ouya at least had a market, even if they didn't reach it. This thing just doesn't have a market, I can't wish it luck.
@@Ben-do1bf Intellivision was my first system and when they first broke news i was like okay. 200 bucks is really the max you can set this thing. I like what Tommy has done musically, but reviving a dead brand an entire different beast. I do wish him luck I don't want to see anyone fail, but for the price and what I've seen, I'm spending my money on other things when it comes to gaming.
@@TheVoidofNothing11 Yup. The Intellivision in the 80s was in a different industry than the modern industry, what made it work then makes no sense now, and it makes even no sense for it to be this console. An Intellivision classic mini would have made 100 times more sense, and even then, how many of those could you really sell, even if it was a solid product?
NEW Intellivision job listing up: Senior Firmware Quality Engineer: "You will thrive in uncertain, *early prototype stages of a project when not all features are implemented* and enjoy putting energy into identifying and classifying issues as a way to improve quality." Sure, Tommy, this was all COVID's fault, and not your gross mismanagement. jobzhq.com/jobs/senior-firmware-quality-engineer_e2e05e3c0d018378_0_0
@Robert Shmigelsky Oh. I know that it's not that much. But the answer to any tough question is market research. I mean can market research answer every question. I said 50 million because that should cover the amount Tommy had to have spent to answer every question with market research.
Tommy bragged of about 50-75 console pre-sales 2 days, after his event. This suggests that sales are small most weeks, that people don't remember intellivision, fear it and the Atari VGS, or they find out that the name and rights were bought out from the founder - not as bad as Colecovision did but the same injury being not the 'real' company. How does he avoid his console being seen as the Family-Rated version of the Atari VGS, a console few think will attract gaming companies more than a year ?A few more questions, where are all the Tommy's interviews by MOM-TUBERS since he said this was Amico's #1 target audience ? What about the convention he was sponsoring for new moms ? I doubt moms care like 30s+ men do, about video games, is why we have zero MOM-Casts with him. Older guys have the interest and spending money, so TT talks to them while denying the retro focus and saying he doesn't care about modern gamers or the switch crowd. Doing mostly small youtube shows tells me the big guys want a reward in exchange for sticking their necks out, after major developers have said 'go away' to Team Amico. at least so far. The project has a make-work effect for TT, he automatically is assigned sound work vs hunting for it, vs maybe pricing and aging out of such work. Will modern companies hire from overseas, or pick younger cheaper sound workers for games.
I have nothing against this system, but all I will say is, who exactly is this system for? If families want to play games together, they’ll be drawn to the Switch. A much better console. Hell, even the PS4 and Xbox have a decent amount of family games now too. This system is entering a market that’s already been taken up by other, better systems.
To be fair, several people who are in their late 40s to early 50s seem to be really excited about the Amico. They are, by their own admission, folks who grew up with an Intelivision in their house. I think THIS is the target demographic (or should be). These folks aren't wearing Tommy's gratis merch, their CZcams channels aren't dedicated primarily to promoting the Amico, and they haven't done any "interviews" with Tommy. I think these folks are for real, genuine, Intellivision fans. That said, these folks are also, from all appearances, a tiny niche of the hobby. I don't think there are enough of them to carry the Amico long term.
James Hargrove agreed. This is such a small market, I don’t understand how money will be made. And the console price is way too high for something like this for a market that’s really really small.
@@TheJuice70 Agreed. As much as I hate Tommy because of his dishonesty (especially when so many of his lies are easily disprovable) and his small army of shill CZcamsrs who exist ONLY to promote the Amico, I do think there is a market for it. The issue I see it that it's just a reeeeeeallly small market. Which might explain why they're pretty much ignoring that market and, instead, trying to lean in hard to "families" and "family gaming" (an ostensibly bigger market). The problem with this is that it puts the Amico in direct competition with Nintendo, even if Tommy refuses to admit it (of course the HUGE amount of time he spends trash talking Nintendo proves that he's in competition with them, otherwise he'd have no reason to do such). The Amico will NEVER outsell NIntendo. NEVER. That's absurd. And, yet, Tommy is chasing that market in hopes of achieving that dream, while ignoring the small (but guaranteed) market he CAN capture. I think (but, of course I don't have access to the numbers), the profit margins are probably all out of whack on this thing. If they aren't already operating in the red, I suspect that they will be by the time it comes to market. It certainly is 110% more likely that Nintendo will kill the Amico in the short term, than the Amico will kill Ninetendo. While I am cautiously optimistic that the Amico will get made (I don't expect a ZX Spectrum or Coleco Chameleon-level disaster), I also expect it to have a short retail lifespan.
James Hargrove yeah. And again, it’s nothing against the console, I’m sure it’s fine, but when you’re trying to compete in a market where there’s 2 or 3 better options, with better games, bigger companies and proven track records, then your console is just a big. This will be one shelves for 6-8 months, have no traction and will probably die. Market research should’ve been done.
@@jdrakeh I still don't get it. It's just a brand. This machine has exactly jack shit all to do with intellevision. Other then the goofy ass controllers which don't appear to even do anything special this could be called anything.
Look at how defensive TT gets any and every times someone brings u any criticism. He doesn't understand that HE is the hipster. Trying to be cool by clutching onto anything retro, however his condition ventures into midlife crisis more than anything else. Timmy just doesn't know how to run a business... And touring as a musician is not the same as introducing a new gaming console to an already crowded market.
The casual market hasn’t been a thing since smart phones came out after 2010. I would think that they would pack in Earthworm Jim to make it show off how “awesome” this system can be, but that doesn’t seem to be the case. Sorry, but from the footage that was shown and how much this system is going to be, you’d be better off buying an iPad and get all of the similar if not better quality titles for free.
Re: Gamestop pre-orders. Apparently, according to many people who've had games on pre-order at Gamestop locations that closed this year and last, their pre-order money just disappeared when the stores closed. if Gamestop files for Chapter 11 before the Amico releases, I expect something similar [edit: for console pre-orders].
@@PatTheNESpunk I hope not too, but I've seen several first-hand accounts on CZcams and Reddit complaining about lost pre-order money (for games). I really hope nobody loses console-tier dollars in this way, be they Amico buyers or PS5/Xbox buyers. Nobody deserves that.
@@timf7413 I just read the Game Stop website. Currently they're only offering refunds on pre-orders in the form of virtual gift cards: www.gamestop.com/preorderdepositrefund/ The only other option offered is to "wait until your store re-opens" (of course, many stores AREN'T re-opening; they're shutting down forever): gsclosing.blogspot.com/ In short, doing pre-orders at Game Stop currently looks riskier than playing gas station slots in rural Nevada.
@@jdrakeh Which are of course, largely useless for a chain closing locations and very likely to go belly up at some point in the not too distant future. (especially now that giving them business may lead to losing your money for no product).
The whole fact that atariage was turned into this bizarre cult of sorts around the thing: refusing to allow anyone expressing any concerns or worries whatsoever, and how Tommy continues to act unprofessional about this whole thing (and relies on drama YTers/small YTers he convinced to shill hard for the thing), it just further makes me not want to buy this thing, and I'm a guy who thinks Antstream Arcade and similar Retrogaming "niche" things could be good for a small audience. But no way in fucking hell will the average consumer of that sort of thing will spend $300 on a system like this, especially with the game lineup and such.
@@timf7413 God, we already have console war nonsense to deal with, and gamers bring that up by themselves: imagine if Nintendo, Sony or MS openly encouraged such arguments and went against everything they've been encouraging for the past generation. (crossplay/playing with all sorts of people worldwide" Tommy's pretty much trying to do a shitty mini console war with the VCS and Atariage is eating it up because their audience consists of 30-40 year boomers. The absolutely sad part is the great looking games (Breakout/Night Stalker) will likely suffer bad reputation because of the amico and Tommy's actions as a whole. Both of those systems won't do so hot but at least Atari had the courtesy to just shut up about their console (for better or worse) and work on it. Meanwhile Tommy loves drama youtubers and won't stop sending small YTers who praise the thing free shit. I've reviewed HUNDREDS of indie/AAA games on my review website and have dealt with PR reps ahoy and lots of review copies I've been bluntly honest on. The stuff with the amico goes far beyond anything I've ever seen with any other company in terms of the amount of shilling/unprofessionalism from a PR rep or CEO. Even fucking THQ Nordic and Nicalis somehow have restraint and I hate them both.
@@Seafoamgaming As Ian says, there are a lot of games here that look like they might be kind of fun (for what they are), just not in the format they're trying to sell them. IMHO if they were just honest about what they were selling instead of shifting the PR hype into overdrive and hit the market with a reasonable price point there might be a market for this and most of the criticism would evaporate.
@@Seafoamgaming I've had no issues with any PR rep, even after shitting on a game I was given review cods for, except for Tommy and all I did was accurately report on his craziness.
I totally understand courting the casual market, but I can't possibly see how anybody of sound mind is going to want to pay over 200 bucks for a machine that plays games that look like ones I see in cringy youtube ads.
That's the most mind boggling thing about this entire project to me. Even if someone is interested in games like this, there's really no reason they would have to buy a dedicated console to play them, let alone at the price point they have proposed.
I finally understand... Intellivision Amico should have been properly advertised as the "Feed Elderly Game Devs" project, because that's what this is. A charitable cause, no doubt. I just hope the folks in charge are budgeting properly and aren't going to leave their dependants in the cold.
One of the silver linings of this whole thing is that Tommy had to sell all his comic book and toy collection because of funding issues for the Amico. I mean, he's an adult, so he really shouldn't have had an extensive comic book collection in the first place, I mean he's not a kid. But anyway yeah, he was so proud of his children's comic books and children's toys collection, so the fact he had to sell all of it because he's a terrible businessman, is incredibly satisfying. Like, he spent literally millions leasing an absolutely enormous office that wasn't ever needed because they had fewer than a dozen employees. Yet this office could accommodate hundreds of employees. He fully furnished the place too, buying hundreds of chairs and desks and so on. That's how terrible a businessman he is, he spent all the millions of fundraising money on an office that the company never needed and even if things had gone incredibly well and the console had eventually come out the they STILL would have never needed an office that big (and also it was one of 2 offices they didn't need, so it was doubly idiotic). He sold all this stuff, just to try and keep the company afloat, and it was all in vain because the console is literally never gonna come out. He must have genuinely believed it would come out, to sell all his stuff like that. Which is just very sad really. He's that delusional that he really didn't understand why he couldn't get the Amico out. But yeah. Ever since hbomberguy's video destruction of Tommy's entire life and career came out, Tommy has been completely absent from the Internet. He has yet to resurface, even to do something as minor as say liking a tweet or something. Which means he definitely watched the whole video, which is funny cos hbomberguy was right when he said Tommy probably searches for his name on Google and CZcams and watches every video anyone ever makes about him, because even in videos about him that have like 50 views in total, he's in the comments section defending himself. So hbomberguy's video, with over 8 million views now, Tommy has definitely watched it. And because all his decades of lying have caused his entire career and reputation to be permanently destroyed by hbomberguy, and nobody will ever believe a single word he ever says anymore because he's been proven to be such a pathological liar and narcissist. And so he'll never be respected ever again. He's had a complete mental breakdown because of that video. He doesn't even seem to be doing Video Games Live concerts anymore because of this. So hbomberguy's video has destroyed his entire life and career and reputation. So I almost feel sad for him. If it weren't for the fact he scammed people out of literally millions of dollars worth of money. Money that people will never be refunded. People should really research companies and CEOs of kickstarter projects before they donate money to the fundraiser, but even so, the responsibility for all of this is on Tommy's shoulders. He might genuinely be suicidal because of all of this. I don't wish death upon him or anything. But he does need significant amounts of mental healthcare regardless, because he genuinely is a pathological liar, and has narcissistic personality disorder. He lies for absolutely no reason, constantly, he just can't help himself. It's even lies on top of lies, because he always has to one up people. Like he lied for years about being on MTV cribs, when he was never on that show, because he's not famous, he's a nobody. But then when people would interview him and say that he's been on MTV cribs, now all of a sudden he'd say he'd actually been on Cribs "a couple of times". Because one lie isn't enough anymore, he has to one up the person, even when they're complimenting him. That's just fucking weird behaviour. It's pathological lying because there's absolutely no reason to lie like that in that situation. He just does it because he can't help himself. Another example is the fact he supposedly has the Guinness world record for person who's on the most video games in a lifetime (he doesn't actually have that record, he was lying, of course, but that's beside the point here). And over the years he'd constantly increase the number of games he supposedly worked on. First it was 250, then eventually 300, then eventually 350, then 400. He couldn't help himself and just had to keep adding to the lie, increasing the number, with no evidence. It's just nuts. He's genuinely severely mentally ill. And again, maybe I'd feel sorry for him if he didn't scam so many vulnerable people, and didn't act racist and homophobic and so on when anybody ever even mildly criticised him.
Atgames knew the Intellivision flashback was about all we needed of Intellivision for the next decade. If you want to spend $250 or more on a system with cool controllers and mobile quality games that probably won't be exciting after two months more power to you. This does not qualify for my 2021 money.
"Six premium games: Astrosmash, Shark! Shark!, Skiing, Cornhole, Farkle, and a soon-to-be-announced sixth game." Wow they include "Cornhole". Never had a doubt.
@Lassi Kinnunen I just loved how they felt so proud they were selling their units on Walmart.com and Amazon when there are already tons of 3rd party marketplaces on the sites. Thus making that announcement kinda seem insignificant lol.
@Mann Maniac Nintendo switch gives 2 controllers out of the box ( technically as it can count between 1-2). There was an Xbox one bundle that came with 2 controllers. The SNES and Sega mini both came with 2 controllers. The 2 controllers thing has been done. The only specific thing the Amico has is the phone app which can give you theoretically infinite controllers ( or as many phones as you can get lol). Did the WiiU come with a controller besides the main handheld?
@Mann Maniac depends on how the DLC is used. Most games now in days I will admit don't use it correctly, but the purpose of DLC is to add to the game. Currently playing SAO Alicazation and the DLC they are releasing right now is free ( along with game updates they are adding dungeons and even a new character). Then of course they have a season pass which will add two big scenarios after the main game. Do game updates count as DLC? Unlike in the past games don't come out in perfect conditions with all the tech involved. Even mobile games have to download updates at times lol.
TBH I also think that's a function of crowdfunding to some extent. It's way too easy for people to talk up their big ideas and get in over their head without having to prove they can actually produce anything.
I find the Amico depressing and have since it was first announced. The idea was obviously so stupid and solved a non-existent problem and my guess has always been that it will fail. But that means that everyone involved in this thing is going to fail and that's depressing. Look at this video and look at all these devs and such that they're interviewing. Their games are going to sell like crap, if this thing even comes out. Every investor is going to lose money. Everyone working for this company is going to lose their job and there will probably be devs involved that go out of business. I can't help but feel sad about that. If it was a scam or was from a big corporation I wouldn't feel this way, but this is like watching a small business fail.
The reason smash works is because they are taking many very different properties (in no way does Metroid or Xenoblade look like its in a similar world to Yoshi or Kirby) and a very talented team is able to turn those into a single cohesive world for Smash. The problem with these amico games aren't that the lack cohesion across each other, its that each game on its own lacks any form of cohesion or finesse in style. And when they are then viewed as a group the pattern of assets with little focus being thrown together becomes even more clear.
I know nothing of this tommy fellow, but I see his comments all over CZcams vids. If he has time to personally respond in such aggressive manners, he is just wasting time. Reminds me of a coked out used car salesmen
Tommy fellow? What are you a millenial? Well let me enlighten you child... Tommy Tallarico was famous for working at Virgin Interactive back in the 90s working on tons of video games. He was a huge composer for many games for them. Earthworm Jim was a big series for him, he went on to host shows on G4 tv in the future as well. On the side he worked on games as well including Metroid Prime. He is a sound composer mostly.
DaNerd89 yeah, and none of that means jack squat to his intended family audience. It will obviously mean a lot to you and the historians, but a good story is just that, a good story. The people I feel sorry for are the ones that buy the damn thing, wrap it up for little Johnny and Suzy (Xmas 2022 probably) and then get their feelings crushed when the kids give it one look and go back to their phones.
tommy was definitely better when he was doing sound design work for a bunch of games. The games weren't great due to his work, but it was an adequate contribution to games made by skilled developers. A lot of them were uncredited. But I mean, THPS 1, unreal tournament 2004, maximo vs army of zin, war of the monsters, metroid prime 1 and 2. But, his ego took over everything. He got into this thing way over his head thinking he could compete by offering something alternative to other consoles, but it's just stuff that you could get cheaper anywhere else without dropping 250 on the console.
I still can't figure out if the guy behind this is knowingly selling snake oil or if this is just sheer incompetence on display. One wonders how this product would fare under different leadership.
It's a shovelware machine. Literally most of the demos look like browser games. It's using "simple" and "easy" as an excuse to pump out very quick and cheap subpar games the cost of a very expensive console upfront. Could the hardware do more? Sure. I'm willing to bet that whatever the final product is could produce something nice if enough development time is put into it because every media device within reason today can produce something nice. A $200 phone can run most android games. But why would an indie developer spend resources on this instead of Switch, Apple or Android?
I feel for Ian when this topic comes up, however I also value his opinion. By now it seems clear that Timmy doesn't know what he's doing running this business. Virtually everything he's doing or has chosen to do has either been ill advised, or a complete mistake. How do you announce 2 months from release that a new gaming console has to be delayed another 6 months beyond that, and then delay a press event at the 11th hour to finally unveil the console... But not show anything? He's trying to make this the next Wii, but not understanding or following through on what's required to make something like that work. Keiji Inafune is a better businessman than old TT.
Final thought: Tommy's sound of delight, past bragging, at selling 50-75 pre orders 2 days after his Amico Event. It is not in his skull that people may cancel or return them for refund ? False Relief to the terror of his $275 console going up against a sub-$200 Switch Lite ? And still, even now, where is the killer app even in sight for 2021, it ain't moon patrol, and don't think they won't someday release the full title on ios and android, no dollar left on the table. Every pre-sale is less loss if all goes up in smoke, same with investors... 2019, once the Switch lite sold for under 200, he had to, after having an OMG soil pants moment say 'we need investors, limit our losses if this sinks'...when Nintendo hardware next comes due for a price-drop, or a new, no-screen console switch box for 150. even now, 200 lite, mom sees Mario vs Amico in a shop, even a MOM will know the Italian guy means games and happy kids, despite a few obscure adult-only games that no kid will bother with. it has the look of a cash grab like the Atari VGS, loc n' chase but for real ! Console here next year, gone next year. Only a few consoles have been released with loads of great titles at launch, but this is dusty four year old shovelware mostly, very similar ports from mobile mostly. Will it get scrapped, cancelled even, we are allowed to ask when there is a major delay and so little to show. It might have been get investors to replace those who may have fled, as Pat Nes said, and even, a need new ones to limit risk, or scrap the project, put it on ice.'
Intellivision needs to have Teen and Mature rated games their console. Fuck the concept of only family friendly bullshit. Earthworm Jim exclusive to Intellivision Amico.....seriously? If Intellivision Amico fails Earthworm Jim will fall into obscurity.
Tommy wrote several times on AtariAge that the video legitimizes them. 😂 We already know he's got millions from investors and FIG crowdfunding, but somehow a bunch of subcontractors telling their boss he's awesome "legitimizes" the Amico. 😂 He couldn't even power-up the system or show it running without cutting to his controller to hide the 15 second load time (his words from AA).
@@ST-te8do Yeah, but what about this really harkens back to the old Intelivision? Gaming wise, it seems more akin to modern smartphone or flash gaming to me. I don't see how they can market anything as the next Wii, when the Switch is already essentially filling that market niche rather handily.
Leaving everything else aside, I'm surprised at how not-ready a lot of the games were for a system that was supposed to release in two months. A few looked ready or not too far off, but many seemed to be in concept stage at best or not shown at all. Assuming the system comes out on that new April date, how many of those could actually be finished in time..?
I still don't get who this is for. The casual market? It's gone in terms of console gaming. Phones killed it, that's where the casual market lives now. It's on devices people already have for other purposes. Also, the days where grandma plays the wii are over, grandma has an Ipad/Iphone her kids gave her in which she very much enjoys playing match 3 games. So, is it for the family market? Nintendo exists and sells two products right in the same price range with a vastly superior games line up, you ain't getting people to buy an amico over a switch. That leaves no one but a very tiny group of 45-55 year old people who are attached to the NAME intellevision. I really can't think of anyone else.
"Nintendo exists and sells two products..." // Make that 3 products; the 3DS XL is still on retail shelves and is just a tier below the Nintendo Switch Lite.
Putting everything else aside, the games just don't look fun to me for the price. Those on rails shooters particularly don't appeal to me at in in a world where other games exist to take my time.
I mean, that's the biggest flaw of all. Put aside the weird online behavior, the excuses, the wacky controllers... where are the fun games? The games that you can only play on Amico, that give you a special or unique experience?
Having this thing is going to be like carrying around a second smart phone that only plays the same games that your first smartphone already has. Tommy should be doing music for indie games now (probably would have been a great contributor to something like, say, Streets of Rage 4)...
I have seen Pat's haters get together and make 2 hour video responses to a 10-minute podcast clip. Imagine how long the responses will be to THIS video!
I have more confidence in Polymega than Amico, because I've actually seen working Polymegas in the hands of actual people. Even there though their customer notifications about delays have been crap.
If Tommy was smart he would've announce the delay last week, have the playstation event overshadow that news. Then have the event this week. Stupid decisions like this is why J Allard changed his job title to "advisor". And where was Perrin Kaplan?
As a young guy mid 20's, I've never heard of intellivision. And growing up with Sony,Xbox, Nintendo,GameCube,etc. I can't see anyone my generation and under ever getting into this console. This is definitely a bad investment. Look at who they are up against. If you want to invest in some with a super growth. Look into PC and Microsoft. Avoid nft. Look at the consoles. They are still behind on the consoles compared to pc. I lovey retro consoles but don't invest in some without looking at the whole
I'm old enough to have been a kid when they were around, and the only appeal would be a small niche of retro gamers. The only reason for it would be the Intellivision had that very unique controller. I can't remember the game, but there was a dungeon exploring game I seem to remember using them as hot keys for spells and stuff? Some games had an overlay that would go over that numeric pad so you'd know what the buttons did. It was really different for a console, and it was never a hugely popular one because I think they only had 10-20% and Atari had the rest. They kinda took off later when they introduced an adapter to play Atari games on it, but the crash was right on their heels. Tommy could have spent money to recreate the original controllers to every last detail (except wireless) - maybe, maybe, update or improve a few things. You know, there has to be something that could be improved with forty years of hindsight? Then stick a FPGA in a woodgrain case, pay to "remaster" a couple of the core games, pay to get a couple people from the original team on board, or an original programmer to update their own game... something. Then just stick it in a display quality package and try to avoid the coins as a small group throw a lot of money at you. Oh, and have effing online capabilities so that people can get updates, buy new games, whatever. If you want to go crazy, make each one capable of being a basic dev kit so people can make their own little games and share them, only because these systems still have healthy homebrew communities. These old systems ran on slightly different flavours of BASIC, and some even included the BASIC interface so you could code your own programs, so a baby dev kit would just be the updated version. I think Intellivision had a BASIC editor, but no keyboard (a different fiasco). That's the thing that kills me about this - there's a blueprint for this kind of thing and it always works when followed. Tommy is literally too stupid to do this the right way. He had to commit fraud because he doesn't actually know anything about video games, business, or interior decorating. He is incapable of ever pulling this off in the same way a quadriplegic simply can't get up and walk a few steps - something fairly simple. Tommy doesn't have the parts necessary to do business the right way.
I appreciate that pat and "the long haried dude" spend so much time criticizing and analyzing the amico, but that is a testament to why i couldnt do their job id take one look at that and go, "this is a piece of shit and if you helped fund this, you are fucking stupid" and that would be the end of my analysis.
UPDATE: XBOX price $300, November 2020 release, further hurts Team Tommy, beat to market, beat to holiday spending season, matched in price to those who can handle no disk player, weaker hardware vs PS5. The Amico team melted down in 2019 at the $200 Switch Lite release... it explained why Tommy went after Nintendo and SONY for allowing sexual and violent themes in 5-10 games... Tommy went 'knives out' : 'they support and promote GRAPE !' without the G... What if the Lite costs $150 in April 2021, or a home console system, no screen, $150 ? More comments from desperation-mode Tommy ? AMICO still have time to buy 20,000 rapberry pies with INTELLIVISION shells, a custom OS, controller and online store, lower the price to $150 ?(JAGUAR SHELLS + Duct tape anyone ?). cheapest xbox will be $300, gamepass nice n cheap... amico may even die on the vine, make the paid up units and wriye it off...Amico needs $500+ consoles with $100 games, high network fees. MSFT + NINTENDO are spiking their boots, ONLY Sony is playing ball.
A multimillion dollar ego stroke, tsk tsk tsk. Dead-on-arrival out the gate, guaranteed, and this Tallarico guy makes off with a wad of $$$. I've been involved with video games since they've been in existence and I've got to ask, sincerely - is *ANY*one taking this thing seriously?? They DO realize that this is 2020 and you can put together/buy a similar gaming device for around fifty bucks, RIGHT? A hot mess....
grew up in the 70s before playing games was "gaming" years before there were "game stores" or "GameStops" so few of us 1st gen "gamers" ever bought any games and 90% of the kids playing games now called "gamers" had Atari 400/800s because we got our games for FREE because every few weeks we dropped our life savings of quarters into unknown cabinets chasing adventure not genres, consoles, systems, controllers, characters, etc. Adults at the time had the Cadillac Apple II ala Wolf and a few hard core kids had C64s BUT from Gilroy to Wine Country driving 1,000s of miles to pirate games from Atari heads through Silicon Valley and the Bay Area incl. arcades NEVER saw a single Intellivision console, game, etc. until going to PRGE for the 1st time 30-40 yrs. after playing pong and collecting 1,000 games I can't remember on floppies...
@@PatTheNESpunk for your video. I was joking. I agree completely with you about Cornhole, it had a weird frame rate issue, I thought I was the only one who noticed
Not sure why people still doubt you guys about this stuff. The Coleco Chameleon fiasco wasn't that long ago, and you two were on the ball with that shitshow.
@Lassi Kinnunen I 100% agree that this system will most likely flop. When it comes to a console, especially a brand new one, there has to be great games, exclusive or not. After watching the press conference, nothing got me excited. I am curious to what kind of MLB game they maye as well as the Earth Worm Jim. The rest of the games shown have no interest to me, especially with the price tag of the console. I still wouldn't put the Amico anywhere near the Chameleon. Mike Kennedy had like 3 guys working on a console. He himself had zero experience in the video game market. The guy started with the God damn shell of an old console and thought he had most of what he needed. I actually attempted to write a book on the subject, so I am well informed on the topics. Mike Kennedy and Chameleon was one of the biggest jokes in vidoe game history. When it comes to Tommy, he has like 30 years of video game experience, with a tons of connections. Putting him and Mike Kennedy in the same conversation is not righy
Rewatching a year+ later…and thinking that ALL of TT’s-“HyperScan Amico” games should have doubled single word titles like Ian’s “Tank Tank” name for the Battle Tank(?) game. So…then it is a matter of renaming…and adding maybe adding “!” to all of them + just use one syllable for the word… Shark! Shark! -> stays the same Battle Tank -> Tank! Tank! Cornhole -> Hole! Hole! Astrosmash -> Smash! Smash! Evel Knievel -> Elk! Elk! Finnigan Fox -> Fox! Fox! Moon Patrol -> Moon! Moon! Breakout -> Break! Break! Farkle -> Fark! Fark! Cloudy Mountain -> Cloud! Cloud! Biplanes -> Plane! Plane! just bringing cohesion & uniformity to the entire naming system… 👍👍🥳👌🤡👌🥳👍👍
I also heard Tommy answer the question "are original Intellivision games going to be sold for Amico?" And his answer was "wait a year"... Who will want to wait a year for the Intellivision originals to be sold? B-17 Bomber, Night Stalker, Treasure of Tarmin, Utopia are what I expect from anything having the Intellivision name on it. Did they have a clue what makes the old system so interesting?
In all honesty, I've thought there was a parallel between both for as long as Pat and Ian have been covering them. Both seem based around providing a type of content that is somewhat popular, but which very few people are likely to see the need for a dedicated product or service for.
Not sure how Tommy will define success for this console but based on youtube views alone of Amico videos, I don't think the console is getting enough exposure to result in sales beyond the retro gaming community.
Basically, Doug believes that anyone who isn't a straight, conservative Christian is being controlled to spread "evil" by some supernatural character called Satan.
Tales of 2 opposites. Intellivision wants to make an actual game console but no signs of ability to actually produce it. Atari wants to sell you an underpowered, overpriced PC as opposed to a game console but they can produce it.
You'll keep bringing up unity, but Tommy announced at the beginning they were using their own unique engine ( Karma) so the games may be worse then unity games lol. That may be the reason the fox game looks worse.
Pat , Ian, why do I love it when you guys rip stupid things. When I saw this dumb as amiiga presser, I was giddy at the thought of you guys destroying these guys. Can you guys get into the issues with the Nintendo EShop. It’s bullshit that titles 3 years old are 60 bucks. But the major issue is that it looks like the AppStore game section. Many mobile games that basically have all grinding and micro transactions off. So much garbage...thanks for the video
What did you think of the Intellivision Amico Event? Did it give you more confidence in the console coming out and being a success or does it now look worse to you?
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Now has about as much chance of succeeding as a Cesaro push.
Looks even worse now. Im betting we get delay 2 in February.
I didn't think my confidence in it could get lower. So good on them for proving that wrong.
You'll said delay until April...best fools joke ever.
Here’s a question, why are there so many youtubers fawning over this thing. Are they on the cut? Is it just the free stuff tommy sends? Did he invite them to a party, got everyone drunk and took compromising photos of them?
Pat and Ian. Tenacious truth tellers tastefully taunting Tommy Tallarico's tendency towards telling tall tales.
Nice one!
Holy alliteration, Batman !
Is that an original or lovingly recreated.
@@schnarfschnarf5886 It's original, I could even edit it again to add turgid in front of tendency to make it slightly better.
@@azure1259 Alliteration always acknowledges amico abominations.
One more thing -- we glossed over the embarrassing use of stock photos of families that were photoshopped to change their PS4 controllers into Amico controllers. Here's a vid showing that: czcams.com/video/KKSbcV3Jc5Q/video.html
Don't forget. What happen to Perrin Kaplan. The wiz from the nintendo wii marketing team. And that J Allard downgraded his title to "advisor". What's that all about.
Here is some more news. Turbojoe said that Tommy has a daily private chat with his shills. That's access media 101. S T brought this up about youtube sponsor rules.
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This was a good analysis of a lil company that is trying VERY HARD to be taken seriously, while making clowns of themselves the whole time. It's like going to a job interview with toilet paper on your shoe and your fly open. Pat and Ian were way more polite and fair than they needed to be.
It is fascinating traveling back in time to revisit these Amico updates. Once everything is said and done and the Amico never comes out and people get sued or maybe even sent to prison, these will make an incredible documentary Series.
Oh, I can't wait until you catch up with us even further in the future.
Can't anyone list stuff for sale on Walmart's website as a third-party seller?
just gotta say that Pat and Ian live rent-free in head of certain Amico fans. There is this Amico podcast that happens once a week or so and they just can't stop bringing these guys up!
Tommy has painted them as the Boogeyman, for whatever reason. I guess he needed someone to rail against
Amico podcast? Talk about completely unnecessary
I'm gonna post this here because I know TT is checking these comments on the hour every hour (sup buddy, lol).
This isn't 2003 anymore. The stereotype of the shut in gamer with no friends chugging Mountain Dew and Doritos is long gone. No one needs the Amico to save them from the 'evils' of modern video games because those evils do not exist. Kids these days play video games, but they also play sports, hang out with friends and family, etc. Even us adults play games, but we also have family, friends, careers and well adjusted lives, something your condescending ass can't seem to fathom.
The reason the gaming community has such a negative view on this console is not because they are gatekeeping or they're somehow scared of co-op gaming (which again, is a falsehood in and of itself). The main reason everyone is so down on this console is because it's a $250 piece of crap. The games look like crap, the controller is crap and despite all the false claims, the console is not bringing anything new or exciting to the gaming market.
Intellivision could have just put out a modern retro console with some pack-in games and sold it to boomers based on nostalgia, but instead TT had to put on his clown shoes and makeup and pretend the Amico is so much more than what it actually is.
I want to thank you for this comment. :)
There are loads of interesting comments here and on a smaller channel, self-admitted Intellivision fan cyrus martin. one guy has a webpage with proof of the intense moderation of youtube comments on Tommy's channel. Wouldn't surprise me if TT asks small channels to prune comments, too. In comments, TT is accused of giving lists of people to 'pre-ban' when he does his interviews on small channels, says a guy who showed up at one for the first time, pre-blocked. This is done from fear, if true. I read an accusation that the amico is a retro pi or very close to it, a banana pie. Maybe it wasn't in 2018, but in 2020 this could be possible. To speed production. The 'must be a new release' no ports rule is baby bottom soft, as we knew it would be. The Coleco-retro scam, what was missed is that Mike K had to have known his RetroVGS was fake since he booted it up at the toy show, and before the event. He would blame his engineer as if he was scammed too, but he knew what it was the moment he powered it up the first time.
Amico games are ps1-ps2 level, but I think I get it for mobile game fans that want to play on a big screen, play against pals at home, with better controllers. this is a nice mobile-console hybrid, but when Team Amico saw the under $200 Switch lite, nail-chewing moment, did anyone there not start drinking or punch a hole in the drywall ? Wealthly moms may not care of its low power and quality, and maybe retro fans will be forgiving. but getting out-priced by the switch lite, that has to have his team dispirited. Nes and Snes mini consoles, outprice it too, and have great controllers. Snes mini games crush what Amico has, TG16 mini as well. Switch has everything and is portable, decent controllers too unlike mobile phones. Switch fixed and stole the market I spoke about in the beginning, which is why we see so many games for the amico already on that platform, too ! If only there was some way to hook a switch up to the big TV, ah it does that. His market is not so huge after all, especially with the higher price.
An example of a project that's run well during covid would be the Evercade. They experienced a delay, but also sent out a lot of review units to CZcamsrs, and even made a day 1 update to address the criticisms from those reviews. It was run really well all around and the difference to me is that they seemed to actively want to show the product they created off to anyone who will look at it because they're proud of what they've made. It's the exact opposite of the Amico that feels like they are hiding things from consumers.
Here's the thing: If the project had built up more goodwill and a better reputation prior to the pandemic, people would have been more willing to extend them the benefit of the doubt.
@@timf7413 Yeah, Tommy was attacking the gaming press for reporting on this with a critical eye from jump street.
@@timf7413 I agree, but that's just the tip of the iceberg. You can have a well run project that's transparent from the start, builds goodwill with potential fans, etc... but if it doesn't deliver or is underwhelming, it's still going to fall flat on it's face. The Amico costs about the same as a Switch Light with a game, so in order for it to succeed they need to come correct and deliver a product that consumer's will view as being better than a Switch at that price point. As it is now, the mobile looking games are turning off the hardcore gamers, and the unfortunate fact that Intellivision as a brand hasn't been relevant in decades means that they will still be viewed as a generic box that costs as much as the name brand one which really positions them poorly in the marketplace. It is cheaper than a regular model Switch, but not by much which is really an issue.
@@JFlickinger82 FWIW I agree they have much bigger problems (namely the ones you mention). I'm just saying that people probably would have cut them more slack over the delay if they had done more to earn it.
@@timf7413 Yeah, and there are still some people that are giving them the benefit of the doubt. I guess what I struggle with the most is how they could have built up that goodwill with what they currently have to show. Even if they handled everything really well and a lot of people wanted to see them succeed, or at the very least just trust them, I really don't see a valid business case for a $200+ box that plays games that are either currently available on mobile platforms, or look like they could be on mobile platforms. I guess it's kind of like an Nvidia Shield TV, but that's a niche device that doubles as a streaming box so even that is a little different.
Watching Tommy peddle their wares, is a lot like watching your grandma eagerly try and pump you up for the Christmas sweater she bought you..."Look Ian, a sweater! And it has a bear on it!"
Thanks, Grandma.
Open Every Sweater
@@foofyno-no6073 Pete seems nice, if very misguided.
@@foofyno-no6073 underrated response right here :D
I had relatives that peddled Herbalife, Tupperware, Avon, Amway, and Kirbys. Yeah, family reunions were fun!
@@juicyfruit6311 oh wow. Families of salesmen seems like a miniseries i would watch for the comedy and the baggage.
This is turning into a disaster, throw in the killer app being 5 seconds of running on a beach and...yeah it’s not looking good
And when you add absolutely no new sounds effect onto this demo it's also looking grim.
I'm a fan of earthworm jim (the games not the show that was never released here) because it was gross and disturbing, but here we get something that looks way too much family friendly.
@@XMAlek Earthworm Jim was a fun and reasonably creative game back in the day, but even so, it's hardly a franchise I think many people have been clamming to make a comeback.
Far kinder than they deserved but still a fair analysis. I can't wait until the usual suspects flood YT with "This is why Pat is wrong!" videos...
Time to wait to see how Rich the shill ( bought with a mug) defends this lol.
zibbidybopnbadop splort
Are there seriously people making videos defending this thing? It looks so fucking lame.
One video said the presentation was AWWW-SUMMMM!. Another said it was "Roses." There was a Pat VS Tommy video. Overall, the news of a delay led to a typical fappin' session over how KEWL this is.
I think "cornhole" sums up the Amico perfectly
Tommy just wants someone like mark Cuban to stupidly jump on this and bail him out. But that's never going to happen
The games don't matter, what matters is finding out who is Amico's Marketing Manager and hearing them talk for like 5 - 10 minutes. This is what sells consoles.
BTW, anyone seen those reddit comments, brutal. Tommy can't say there are only 4 - 5 "haters" anymore.
On his latest infomercial he said the haters are up to 7 or 8
@@FrogTony Which interview?
@@charvelgtrs8960 Hey, don't watch or comment on that new amico video with retrobro it was trash.
@@charvelgtrs8960 Its on RetroBro's channel...not worth the watch as its the same spiel he's been doing for the last several months with like 1 or 2 new tidbits.
I'm just here for Tommy's defensive comment. Someone alert me when it happens.
Lot's of hate against Pat and Ian, but they've been right so far. Even if they're being dicks ( which is why I like them) can't deny what they've been saying, and Tommy is feeding into it. I wish it luck though and hope it does decent.
Don't worry.... It won't
@@TheVoidofNothing11 I'd wish it luck if it had a market, but it just... doesn't. Stadia and Ouya at least had a market, even if they didn't reach it. This thing just doesn't have a market, I can't wish it luck.
@@Ben-do1bf Intellivision was my first system and when they first broke news i was like okay. 200 bucks is really the max you can set this thing. I like what Tommy has done musically, but reviving a dead brand an entire different beast. I do wish him luck I don't want to see anyone fail, but for the price and what I've seen, I'm spending my money on other things when it comes to gaming.
@@TheVoidofNothing11 Yup. The Intellivision in the 80s was in a different industry than the modern industry, what made it work then makes no sense now, and it makes even no sense for it to be this console. An Intellivision classic mini would have made 100 times more sense, and even then, how many of those could you really sell, even if it was a solid product?
NEW Intellivision job listing up: Senior Firmware Quality Engineer: "You will thrive in uncertain, *early prototype stages of a project when not all features are implemented* and enjoy putting energy into identifying and classifying issues as a way to improve quality." Sure, Tommy, this was all COVID's fault, and not your gross mismanagement. jobzhq.com/jobs/senior-firmware-quality-engineer_e2e05e3c0d018378_0_0
LMAO of course the shills will call you wrong despite the facts right in their faces.
This is #Tommyknockers idea of partnership
czcams.com/video/0TRb3kZOSuQ/video.html
IT'S FOR PERIPHERALS, YOU HATER. And definitely not for a console that just missed it's shipping date of two months from now. :D
@Robert Shmigelsky If you listen to Tommy. He has sent 50 millions dollars on market research. Market research is his red herring.
@Robert Shmigelsky Oh. I know that it's not that much. But the answer to any tough question is market research. I mean can market research answer every question.
I said 50 million because that should cover the amount Tommy had to have spent to answer every question with market research.
It's a joke....Tommy's behind on the Ferrari payments and Steven Tyler wants his loan back
HA HA HA HA HA!!! :D
Damn, why did Tommy have to buy the Intellivision name? Why couldn't someone with amazing credentials in the manufacturing and business arena buy it?
Go fly a kite.
@@AllPro777 I did it was the amico 747 disaster edition
@INXISIV at this point I totally agree.
Sounds like the multi-game CD-ROMs I used to have for my Packard Bell computer back in the 90's.
I still have these and a Packard Bell computer running Win 3.1. It's glorious, though the games are fairly poor. Brings back so many memories though.
Notice how incredibly sparse that motherboard that Tommy holds up is? This thing is massively under-powered.
Tommy bragged of about 50-75 console pre-sales 2 days, after his event. This suggests that sales are small most weeks, that people don't remember intellivision, fear it and the Atari VGS, or they find out that the name and rights were bought out from the founder - not as bad as Colecovision did but the same injury being not the 'real' company. How does he avoid his console being seen as the Family-Rated version of the Atari VGS, a console few think will attract gaming companies more than a year ?A few more questions, where are all the Tommy's interviews by MOM-TUBERS since he said this was Amico's #1 target audience ? What about the convention he was sponsoring for new moms ? I doubt moms care like 30s+ men do, about video games, is why we have zero MOM-Casts with him. Older guys have the interest and spending money, so TT talks to them while denying the retro focus and saying he doesn't care about modern gamers or the switch crowd. Doing mostly small youtube shows tells me the big guys want a reward in exchange for sticking their necks out, after major developers have said 'go away' to Team Amico. at least so far. The project has a make-work effect for TT, he automatically is assigned sound work vs hunting for it, vs maybe pricing and aging out of such work. Will modern companies hire from overseas, or pick younger cheaper sound workers for games.
Ian, I applaud your patience, lol...”Pat, focus” as pat reads the 17th mlb licensed game....
I have nothing against this system, but all I will say is, who exactly is this system for? If families want to play games together, they’ll be drawn to the Switch. A much better console. Hell, even the PS4 and Xbox have a decent amount of family games now too. This system is entering a market that’s already been taken up by other, better systems.
To be fair, several people who are in their late 40s to early 50s seem to be really excited about the Amico. They are, by their own admission, folks who grew up with an Intelivision in their house. I think THIS is the target demographic (or should be). These folks aren't wearing Tommy's gratis merch, their CZcams channels aren't dedicated primarily to promoting the Amico, and they haven't done any "interviews" with Tommy. I think these folks are for real, genuine, Intellivision fans. That said, these folks are also, from all appearances, a tiny niche of the hobby. I don't think there are enough of them to carry the Amico long term.
James Hargrove agreed. This is such a small market, I don’t understand how money will be made. And the console price is way too high for something like this for a market that’s really really small.
@@TheJuice70 Agreed. As much as I hate Tommy because of his dishonesty (especially when so many of his lies are easily disprovable) and his small army of shill CZcamsrs who exist ONLY to promote the Amico, I do think there is a market for it. The issue I see it that it's just a reeeeeeallly small market. Which might explain why they're pretty much ignoring that market and, instead, trying to lean in hard to "families" and "family gaming" (an ostensibly bigger market).
The problem with this is that it puts the Amico in direct competition with Nintendo, even if Tommy refuses to admit it (of course the HUGE amount of time he spends trash talking Nintendo proves that he's in competition with them, otherwise he'd have no reason to do such). The Amico will NEVER outsell NIntendo. NEVER. That's absurd. And, yet, Tommy is chasing that market in hopes of achieving that dream, while ignoring the small (but guaranteed) market he CAN capture.
I think (but, of course I don't have access to the numbers), the profit margins are probably all out of whack on this thing. If they aren't already operating in the red, I suspect that they will be by the time it comes to market. It certainly is 110% more likely that Nintendo will kill the Amico in the short term, than the Amico will kill Ninetendo. While I am cautiously optimistic that the Amico will get made (I don't expect a ZX Spectrum or Coleco Chameleon-level disaster), I also expect it to have a short retail lifespan.
James Hargrove yeah. And again, it’s nothing against the console, I’m sure it’s fine, but when you’re trying to compete in a market where there’s 2 or 3 better options, with better games, bigger companies and proven track records, then your console is just a big. This will be one shelves for 6-8 months, have no traction and will probably die. Market research should’ve been done.
@@jdrakeh I still don't get it. It's just a brand. This machine has exactly jack shit all to do with intellevision. Other then the goofy ass controllers which don't appear to even do anything special this could be called anything.
How bad could it have be... oh, the video is *40 minutes* long... oh no.
I can't wait to play Amico games that look like mobile games on my phone, in my living room, after paying $250 for the right to do so!
If this gameplay was showed in 97 I wouldn’t be excited about it!
The price point wouldn't have been out to lunch in '97 either.
Why '97 specifically? :)
Jan Jacobs felt right
Tommy said the CNet article author was a “snarky hardcore gamer” and a “hipster”. 😂
He also bragged about getting a Cnet video done by a real journalist...
The Geek Getaway Real journalist i.e. someone who is Amico friendly
im sure CNET appreciates him insulting their writers.
That turns me off more then anything these days. How very Trumpian of him which totally turns me on to buying his product.
In other words, exactly the market likely to have any interest in a niche video game console (or even know the Amico is a thing).
Look at how defensive TT gets any and every times someone brings u any criticism. He doesn't understand that HE is the hipster. Trying to be cool by clutching onto anything retro, however his condition ventures into midlife crisis more than anything else. Timmy just doesn't know how to run a business... And touring as a musician is not the same as introducing a new gaming console to an already crowded market.
The casual market hasn’t been a thing since smart phones came out after 2010. I would think that they would pack in Earthworm Jim to make it show off how “awesome” this system can be, but that doesn’t seem to be the case. Sorry, but from the footage that was shown and how much this system is going to be, you’d be better off buying an iPad and get all of the similar if not better quality titles for free.
Re: Gamestop pre-orders. Apparently, according to many people who've had games on pre-order at Gamestop locations that closed this year and last, their pre-order money just disappeared when the stores closed. if Gamestop files for Chapter 11 before the Amico releases, I expect something similar [edit: for console pre-orders].
I hope that's not true. Yikes.
@@PatTheNESpunk I hope not too, but I've seen several first-hand accounts on CZcams and Reddit complaining about lost pre-order money (for games). I really hope nobody loses console-tier dollars in this way, be they Amico buyers or PS5/Xbox buyers. Nobody deserves that.
The sad thing about that is that individual customers will be so far down the bankruptcy chain, they will likely never see that money.
@@timf7413 I just read the Game Stop website. Currently they're only offering refunds on pre-orders in the form of virtual gift cards:
www.gamestop.com/preorderdepositrefund/
The only other option offered is to "wait until your store re-opens" (of course, many stores AREN'T re-opening; they're shutting down forever):
gsclosing.blogspot.com/
In short, doing pre-orders at Game Stop currently looks riskier than playing gas station slots in rural Nevada.
@@jdrakeh Which are of course, largely useless for a chain closing locations and very likely to go belly up at some point in the not too distant future. (especially now that giving them business may lead to losing your money for no product).
The whole fact that atariage was turned into this bizarre cult of sorts around the thing: refusing to allow anyone expressing any concerns or worries whatsoever, and how Tommy continues to act unprofessional about this whole thing (and relies on drama YTers/small YTers he convinced to shill hard for the thing), it just further makes me not want to buy this thing, and I'm a guy who thinks Antstream Arcade and similar Retrogaming "niche" things could be good for a small audience. But no way in fucking hell will the average consumer of that sort of thing will spend $300 on a system like this, especially with the game lineup and such.
The lack of professionalism really gets me. Can you imagine a top exec at Sony, Micosoft or Nintendo arguing with random internet commenters?
@@timf7413 God, we already have console war nonsense to deal with, and gamers bring that up by themselves: imagine if Nintendo, Sony or MS openly encouraged such arguments and went against everything they've been encouraging for the past generation. (crossplay/playing with all sorts of people worldwide" Tommy's pretty much trying to do a shitty mini console war with the VCS and Atariage is eating it up because their audience consists of 30-40 year boomers. The absolutely sad part is the great looking games (Breakout/Night Stalker) will likely suffer bad reputation because of the amico and Tommy's actions as a whole.
Both of those systems won't do so hot but at least Atari had the courtesy to just shut up about their console (for better or worse) and work on it. Meanwhile Tommy loves drama youtubers and won't stop sending small YTers who praise the thing free shit. I've reviewed HUNDREDS of indie/AAA games on my review website and have dealt with PR reps ahoy and lots of review copies I've been bluntly honest on. The stuff with the amico goes far beyond anything I've ever seen with any other company in terms of the amount of shilling/unprofessionalism from a PR rep or CEO. Even fucking THQ Nordic and Nicalis somehow have restraint and I hate them both.
@@Seafoamgaming As Ian says, there are a lot of games here that look like they might be kind of fun (for what they are), just not in the format they're trying to sell them. IMHO if they were just honest about what they were selling instead of shifting the PR hype into overdrive and hit the market with a reasonable price point there might be a market for this and most of the criticism would evaporate.
I find it more strange that AtariAge.com is shilling for ... Intellevision? And they're piddling on ... Atari? Really? That's just ... weird.
@@Seafoamgaming I've had no issues with any PR rep, even after shitting on a game I was given review cods for, except for Tommy and all I did was accurately report on his craziness.
I totally understand courting the casual market, but I can't possibly see how anybody of sound mind is going to want to pay over 200 bucks for a machine that plays games that look like ones I see in cringy youtube ads.
If it gets that raid shadow legends game I will take up jogging.
@@ColeslawVariant same
That's the most mind boggling thing about this entire project to me. Even if someone is interested in games like this, there's really no reason they would have to buy a dedicated console to play them, let alone at the price point they have proposed.
I finally understand... Intellivision Amico should have been properly advertised as the "Feed Elderly Game Devs" project, because that's what this is.
A charitable cause, no doubt.
I just hope the folks in charge are budgeting properly and aren't going to leave their dependants in the cold.
One of the silver linings of this whole thing is that Tommy had to sell all his comic book and toy collection because of funding issues for the Amico. I mean, he's an adult, so he really shouldn't have had an extensive comic book collection in the first place, I mean he's not a kid. But anyway yeah, he was so proud of his children's comic books and children's toys collection, so the fact he had to sell all of it because he's a terrible businessman, is incredibly satisfying. Like, he spent literally millions leasing an absolutely enormous office that wasn't ever needed because they had fewer than a dozen employees. Yet this office could accommodate hundreds of employees. He fully furnished the place too, buying hundreds of chairs and desks and so on. That's how terrible a businessman he is, he spent all the millions of fundraising money on an office that the company never needed and even if things had gone incredibly well and the console had eventually come out the they STILL would have never needed an office that big (and also it was one of 2 offices they didn't need, so it was doubly idiotic).
He sold all this stuff, just to try and keep the company afloat, and it was all in vain because the console is literally never gonna come out. He must have genuinely believed it would come out, to sell all his stuff like that. Which is just very sad really. He's that delusional that he really didn't understand why he couldn't get the Amico out.
But yeah. Ever since hbomberguy's video destruction of Tommy's entire life and career came out, Tommy has been completely absent from the Internet. He has yet to resurface, even to do something as minor as say liking a tweet or something. Which means he definitely watched the whole video, which is funny cos hbomberguy was right when he said Tommy probably searches for his name on Google and CZcams and watches every video anyone ever makes about him, because even in videos about him that have like 50 views in total, he's in the comments section defending himself. So hbomberguy's video, with over 8 million views now, Tommy has definitely watched it.
And because all his decades of lying have caused his entire career and reputation to be permanently destroyed by hbomberguy, and nobody will ever believe a single word he ever says anymore because he's been proven to be such a pathological liar and narcissist. And so he'll never be respected ever again. He's had a complete mental breakdown because of that video. He doesn't even seem to be doing Video Games Live concerts anymore because of this. So hbomberguy's video has destroyed his entire life and career and reputation.
So I almost feel sad for him. If it weren't for the fact he scammed people out of literally millions of dollars worth of money. Money that people will never be refunded. People should really research companies and CEOs of kickstarter projects before they donate money to the fundraiser, but even so, the responsibility for all of this is on Tommy's shoulders. He might genuinely be suicidal because of all of this. I don't wish death upon him or anything. But he does need significant amounts of mental healthcare regardless, because he genuinely is a pathological liar, and has narcissistic personality disorder. He lies for absolutely no reason, constantly, he just can't help himself. It's even lies on top of lies, because he always has to one up people. Like he lied for years about being on MTV cribs, when he was never on that show, because he's not famous, he's a nobody. But then when people would interview him and say that he's been on MTV cribs, now all of a sudden he'd say he'd actually been on Cribs "a couple of times". Because one lie isn't enough anymore, he has to one up the person, even when they're complimenting him. That's just fucking weird behaviour. It's pathological lying because there's absolutely no reason to lie like that in that situation. He just does it because he can't help himself.
Another example is the fact he supposedly has the Guinness world record for person who's on the most video games in a lifetime (he doesn't actually have that record, he was lying, of course, but that's beside the point here). And over the years he'd constantly increase the number of games he supposedly worked on. First it was 250, then eventually 300, then eventually 350, then 400. He couldn't help himself and just had to keep adding to the lie, increasing the number, with no evidence. It's just nuts. He's genuinely severely mentally ill. And again, maybe I'd feel sorry for him if he didn't scam so many vulnerable people, and didn't act racist and homophobic and so on when anybody ever even mildly criticised him.
Atgames knew the Intellivision flashback was about all we needed of Intellivision for the next decade. If you want to spend $250 or more on a system with cool controllers and mobile quality games that probably won't be exciting after two months more power to you. This does not qualify for my 2021 money.
"Six premium games: Astrosmash, Shark! Shark!, Skiing, Cornhole, Farkle, and a soon-to-be-announced sixth game."
Wow they include "Cornhole". Never had a doubt.
This thing is going to flop like a dying fish.
It would actually need to come out, before it flops LOL
@Lassi Kinnunen I just loved how they felt so proud they were selling their units on Walmart.com and Amazon when there are already tons of 3rd party marketplaces on the sites. Thus making that announcement kinda seem insignificant lol.
@Mann Maniac Nintendo switch gives 2 controllers out of the box ( technically as it can count between 1-2).
There was an Xbox one bundle that came with 2 controllers. The SNES and Sega mini both came with 2 controllers.
The 2 controllers thing has been done. The only specific thing the Amico has is the phone app which can give you theoretically infinite controllers ( or as many phones as you can get lol).
Did the WiiU come with a controller besides the main handheld?
@Mann Maniac depends on how the DLC is used. Most games now in days I will admit don't use it correctly, but the purpose of DLC is to add to the game. Currently playing SAO Alicazation and the DLC they are releasing right now is free ( along with game updates they are adding dungeons and even a new character). Then of course they have a season pass which will add two big scenarios after the main game.
Do game updates count as DLC? Unlike in the past games don't come out in perfect conditions with all the tech involved. Even mobile games have to download updates at times lol.
This is what happens when the marketing department takes over the company. All talk, no action.
TBH I also think that's a function of crowdfunding to some extent. It's way too easy for people to talk up their big ideas and get in over their head without having to prove they can actually produce anything.
Exactly.
I find the Amico depressing and have since it was first announced. The idea was obviously so stupid and solved a non-existent problem and my guess has always been that it will fail. But that means that everyone involved in this thing is going to fail and that's depressing. Look at this video and look at all these devs and such that they're interviewing. Their games are going to sell like crap, if this thing even comes out. Every investor is going to lose money. Everyone working for this company is going to lose their job and there will probably be devs involved that go out of business. I can't help but feel sad about that. If it was a scam or was from a big corporation I wouldn't feel this way, but this is like watching a small business fail.
The reason smash works is because they are taking many very different properties (in no way does Metroid or Xenoblade look like its in a similar world to Yoshi or Kirby) and a very talented team is able to turn those into a single cohesive world for Smash.
The problem with these amico games aren't that the lack cohesion across each other, its that each game on its own lacks any form of cohesion or finesse in style. And when they are then viewed as a group the pattern of assets with little focus being thrown together becomes even more clear.
Between the Evel Knievel shit an the obsession with the Intellivsion stuff, Tommy strikes me as someone who never grew out of the late 70s-early 80s.
I know nothing of this tommy fellow, but I see his comments all over CZcams vids. If he has time to personally respond in such aggressive manners, he is just wasting time. Reminds me of a coked out used car salesmen
Tommy fellow? What are you a millenial? Well let me enlighten you child... Tommy Tallarico was famous for working at Virgin Interactive back in the 90s working on tons of video games. He was a huge composer for many games for them. Earthworm Jim was a big series for him, he went on to host shows on G4 tv in the future as well. On the side he worked on games as well including Metroid Prime. He is a sound composer mostly.
DaNerd89 yeah, and none of that means jack squat to his intended family audience. It will obviously mean a lot to you and the historians, but a good story is just that, a good story. The people I feel sorry for are the ones that buy the damn thing, wrap it up for little Johnny and Suzy (Xmas 2022 probably) and then get their feelings crushed when the kids give it one look and go back to their phones.
@Lassi Kinnunen In either regard "famous" is probably overstating things a fair bit.
tommy was definitely better when he was doing sound design work for a bunch of games. The games weren't great due to his work, but it was an adequate contribution to games made by skilled developers. A lot of them were uncredited. But I mean, THPS 1, unreal tournament 2004, maximo vs army of zin, war of the monsters, metroid prime 1 and 2. But, his ego took over everything. He got into this thing way over his head thinking he could compete by offering something alternative to other consoles, but it's just stuff that you could get cheaper anywhere else without dropping 250 on the console.
@@danerd8978 So?
All the comments on that Amico Live event video are positive. They must be deleting all those negative comments.
Mine was negative it's gone
Not at all surprising given their pattern of behavior in the past. They obviously moderate everything rather heavily.
They are.
the first 4 or 5 comments with most votes are negative, and are still there after 2 weeks, so I don't see it seeing the case
I still can't figure out if the guy behind this is knowingly selling snake oil or if this is just sheer incompetence on display. One wonders how this product would fare under different leadership.
Why not both?
Please, Pat and Ian, when this is all over we need an omnibus video of this entire timeline.
It's a shovelware machine. Literally most of the demos look like browser games. It's using "simple" and "easy" as an excuse to pump out very quick and cheap subpar games the cost of a very expensive console upfront. Could the hardware do more? Sure. I'm willing to bet that whatever the final product is could produce something nice if enough development time is put into it because every media device within reason today can produce something nice. A $200 phone can run most android games. But why would an indie developer spend resources on this instead of Switch, Apple or Android?
He’s taking money from the German government... he’s the Uwe Boll of video games. XD
I feel for Ian when this topic comes up, however I also value his opinion. By now it seems clear that Timmy doesn't know what he's doing running this business. Virtually everything he's doing or has chosen to do has either been ill advised, or a complete mistake. How do you announce 2 months from release that a new gaming console has to be delayed another 6 months beyond that, and then delay a press event at the 11th hour to finally unveil the console... But not show anything? He's trying to make this the next Wii, but not understanding or following through on what's required to make something like that work. Keiji Inafune is a better businessman than old TT.
Final thought: Tommy's sound of delight, past bragging, at selling 50-75 pre orders 2 days after his Amico Event. It is not in his skull that people may cancel or return them for refund ? False Relief to the terror of his $275 console going up against a sub-$200 Switch Lite ? And still, even now, where is the killer app even in sight for 2021, it ain't moon patrol, and don't think they won't someday release the full title on ios and android, no dollar left on the table. Every pre-sale is less loss if all goes up in smoke, same with investors... 2019, once the Switch lite sold for under 200, he had to, after having an OMG soil pants moment say 'we need investors, limit our losses if this sinks'...when Nintendo hardware next comes due for a price-drop, or a new, no-screen console switch box for 150. even now, 200 lite, mom sees Mario vs Amico in a shop, even a MOM will know the Italian guy means games and happy kids, despite a few obscure adult-only games that no kid will bother with. it has the look of a cash grab like the Atari VGS, loc n' chase but for real ! Console here next year, gone next year. Only a few consoles have been released with loads of great titles at launch, but this is dusty four year old shovelware mostly, very similar ports from mobile mostly. Will it get scrapped, cancelled even, we are allowed to ask when there is a major delay and so little to show. It might have been get investors to replace those who may have fled, as Pat Nes said, and even, a need new ones to limit risk, or scrap the project, put it on ice.'
I love these systems. They produce such great podcast portions.
Intellivision needs to have Teen and Mature rated games their console. Fuck the concept of only family friendly bullshit. Earthworm Jim exclusive to Intellivision Amico.....seriously? If Intellivision Amico fails Earthworm Jim will fall into obscurity.
Tommy wrote several times on AtariAge that the video legitimizes them. 😂 We already know he's got millions from investors and FIG crowdfunding, but somehow a bunch of subcontractors telling their boss he's awesome "legitimizes" the Amico. 😂 He couldn't even power-up the system or show it running without cutting to his controller to hide the 15 second load time (his words from AA).
IMHO they will be legitimate when they actually produce something and manage to sell it.
I still don't get the appeal of this thing.
There is no appeal.
@@ST-te8do Yeah, but what about this really harkens back to the old Intelivision? Gaming wise, it seems more akin to modern smartphone or flash gaming to me.
I don't see how they can market anything as the next Wii, when the Switch is already essentially filling that market niche rather handily.
@@ST-te8do From what I remember, Mattel Electroncs Intellivision was not marketed to a very diverse crowd back-in-the-day.
Leaving everything else aside, I'm surprised at how not-ready a lot of the games were for a system that was supposed to release in two months.
A few looked ready or not too far off, but many seemed to be in concept stage at best or not shown at all. Assuming the system comes out on that new April date, how many of those could actually be finished in time..?
I still don't get who this is for. The casual market? It's gone in terms of console gaming. Phones killed it, that's where the casual market lives now. It's on devices people already have for other purposes. Also, the days where grandma plays the wii are over, grandma has an Ipad/Iphone her kids gave her in which she very much enjoys playing match 3 games. So, is it for the family market? Nintendo exists and sells two products right in the same price range with a vastly superior games line up, you ain't getting people to buy an amico over a switch. That leaves no one but a very tiny group of 45-55 year old people who are attached to the NAME intellevision. I really can't think of anyone else.
I could see them marketing this to families that didn't want to/couldn't buy a Switch, but that would require a substantially lower price point.
"Nintendo exists and sells two products..." // Make that 3 products; the 3DS XL is still on retail shelves and is just a tier below the Nintendo Switch Lite.
Putting everything else aside, the games just don't look fun to me for the price. Those on rails shooters particularly don't appeal to me at in in a world where other games exist to take my time.
Ghost Squad on the Wii is $3.00. Great game.
@@ColeslawVariant Huh. That does look pretty cool.
@@ColeslawVariant I used to love Ghost Squad!
I mean, that's the biggest flaw of all. Put aside the weird online behavior, the excuses, the wacky controllers... where are the fun games? The games that you can only play on Amico, that give you a special or unique experience?
@@djconvoy Cornhole enters the chat then slowly backs away.
Having this thing is going to be like carrying around a second smart phone that only plays the same games that your first smartphone already has. Tommy should be doing music for indie games now (probably would have been a great contributor to something like, say, Streets of Rage 4)...
He's mediocre at best. Koshiro and kawashima have more talent in their fingertips.
What? No Demon Attack? Beauty And The Beast? AD&D??
Pretty sure the retail partners are places like Big Lots and Ollies Bargain Outlet
Give it 6 months after release and it'll be Dollar Tree.
You in the Baltimore area?
I have seen Pat's haters get together and make 2 hour video responses to a 10-minute podcast clip. Imagine how long the responses will be to THIS video!
Man that is at least a 17hrs of response time lol
Good to see another Pat and Ian show! Love this channel! Been out of wifi for a week and also my phone. So I am catching up today.
*loads up video before dueling Obi Wan Kenobi and Anakin Skywalker*
"I've been looking forward to this"
I have more confidence in Polymega than Amico, because I've actually seen working Polymegas in the hands of actual people. Even there though their customer notifications about delays have been crap.
If Tommy was smart he would've announce the delay last week, have the playstation event overshadow that news. Then have the event this week. Stupid decisions like this is why J Allard changed his job title to "advisor". And where was Perrin Kaplan?
@Lassi Kinnunen He was too scared of people cancelling preorders.
As a young guy mid 20's, I've never heard of intellivision. And growing up with Sony,Xbox, Nintendo,GameCube,etc. I can't see anyone my generation and under ever getting into this console. This is definitely a bad investment. Look at who they are up against. If you want to invest in some with a super growth. Look into PC and Microsoft. Avoid nft. Look at the consoles. They are still behind on the consoles compared to pc. I lovey retro consoles but don't invest in some without looking at the whole
I'm old enough to have been a kid when they were around, and the only appeal would be a small niche of retro gamers. The only reason for it would be the Intellivision had that very unique controller. I can't remember the game, but there was a dungeon exploring game I seem to remember using them as hot keys for spells and stuff? Some games had an overlay that would go over that numeric pad so you'd know what the buttons did.
It was really different for a console, and it was never a hugely popular one because I think they only had 10-20% and Atari had the rest. They kinda took off later when they introduced an adapter to play Atari games on it, but the crash was right on their heels.
Tommy could have spent money to recreate the original controllers to every last detail (except wireless) - maybe, maybe, update or improve a few things. You know, there has to be something that could be improved with forty years of hindsight? Then stick a FPGA in a woodgrain case, pay to "remaster" a couple of the core games, pay to get a couple people from the original team on board, or an original programmer to update their own game... something. Then just stick it in a display quality package and try to avoid the coins as a small group throw a lot of money at you.
Oh, and have effing online capabilities so that people can get updates, buy new games, whatever. If you want to go crazy, make each one capable of being a basic dev kit so people can make their own little games and share them, only because these systems still have healthy homebrew communities. These old systems ran on slightly different flavours of BASIC, and some even included the BASIC interface so you could code your own programs, so a baby dev kit would just be the updated version. I think Intellivision had a BASIC editor, but no keyboard (a different fiasco).
That's the thing that kills me about this - there's a blueprint for this kind of thing and it always works when followed. Tommy is literally too stupid to do this the right way. He had to commit fraud because he doesn't actually know anything about video games, business, or interior decorating. He is incapable of ever pulling this off in the same way a quadriplegic simply can't get up and walk a few steps - something fairly simple. Tommy doesn't have the parts necessary to do business the right way.
Fire Festival: the Video Game.
Pat, you should cut a deal to help sell these intellivision consoles at your next Flea Market Madness! $$$$$$$
I appreciate that pat and "the long haried dude" spend so much time criticizing and analyzing the amico, but that is a testament to why i couldnt do their job id take one look at that and go, "this is a piece of shit and if you helped fund this, you are fucking stupid" and that would be the end of my analysis.
Posting from the future: You guys are going to be shocked, shocked at him much progress happens over the next year and a half.
the only coverage i noticed was the article on kotaku about the sadness of the earthworm jim “trailer”
Has there been any real world sightings of Tommy the grifter over the last 4 months
pat was more excited about a baseball stars game on ios than anything shown, lol
(Just subbed, considering the 'membership' thing...)
Thanks Uncle Lou!
UPDATE: XBOX price $300, November 2020 release, further hurts Team Tommy, beat to market, beat to holiday spending season, matched in price to those who can handle no disk player, weaker hardware vs PS5. The Amico team melted down in 2019 at the $200 Switch Lite release... it explained why Tommy went after Nintendo and SONY for allowing sexual and violent themes in 5-10 games... Tommy went 'knives out' : 'they support and promote GRAPE !' without the G... What if the Lite costs $150 in April 2021, or a home console system, no screen, $150 ? More comments from desperation-mode Tommy ? AMICO still have time to buy 20,000 rapberry pies with INTELLIVISION shells, a custom OS, controller and online store, lower the price to $150 ?(JAGUAR SHELLS + Duct tape anyone ?). cheapest xbox will be $300, gamepass nice n cheap... amico may even die on the vine, make the paid up units and wriye it off...Amico needs $500+ consoles with $100 games, high network fees. MSFT + NINTENDO are spiking their boots, ONLY Sony is playing ball.
A multimillion dollar ego stroke, tsk tsk tsk. Dead-on-arrival out the gate, guaranteed, and this Tallarico guy makes off with a wad of $$$. I've been involved with video games since they've been in existence and I've got to ask, sincerely - is *ANY*one taking this thing seriously?? They DO realize that this is 2020 and you can put together/buy a similar gaming device for around fifty bucks, RIGHT? A hot mess....
True.
Did you see the Kotaku article about earthworm jim? It was not positive coverage for these grifters.
i do like how the controller has that area for doing lines though.
grew up in the 70s before playing games was "gaming"
years before there were "game stores" or "GameStops"
so few of us 1st gen "gamers" ever bought any games
and 90% of the kids playing games now called "gamers"
had Atari 400/800s because we got our games for FREE
because every few weeks we dropped our life savings
of quarters into unknown cabinets chasing adventure
not genres, consoles, systems, controllers, characters, etc.
Adults at the time had the Cadillac Apple II ala Wolf and a few
hard core kids had C64s BUT from Gilroy to Wine Country
driving 1,000s of miles to pirate games from Atari heads
through Silicon Valley and the Bay Area incl. arcades
NEVER saw a single Intellivision console, game, etc.
until going to PRGE for the 1st time 30-40 yrs.
after playing pong and collecting 1,000
games I can't remember on floppies...
This 30 fps format is unacceptable.
For Cornhole?
@@PatTheNESpunk for your video. I was joking. I agree completely with you about Cornhole, it had a weird frame rate issue, I thought I was the only one who noticed
Not sure why people still doubt you guys about this stuff. The Coleco Chameleon fiasco wasn't that long ago, and you two were on the ball with that shitshow.
The Chameleon makes the Amico seem like the PS5 in comparison. That was console was run by a complete idiot with a pipe dream.
@Lassi Kinnunen I 100% agree that this system will most likely flop. When it comes to a console, especially a brand new one, there has to be great games, exclusive or not. After watching the press conference, nothing got me excited. I am curious to what kind of MLB game they maye as well as the Earth Worm Jim. The rest of the games shown have no interest to me, especially with the price tag of the console.
I still wouldn't put the Amico anywhere near the Chameleon. Mike Kennedy had like 3 guys working on a console. He himself had zero experience in the video game market. The guy started with the God damn shell of an old console and thought he had most of what he needed. I actually attempted to write a book on the subject, so I am well informed on the topics. Mike Kennedy and Chameleon was one of the biggest jokes in vidoe game history.
When it comes to Tommy, he has like 30 years of video game experience, with a tons of connections. Putting him and Mike Kennedy in the same conversation is not righy
Rewatching a year+ later…and thinking that ALL of TT’s-“HyperScan Amico” games should have doubled single word titles like Ian’s “Tank Tank” name for the Battle Tank(?) game. So…then it is a matter of renaming…and adding maybe adding “!” to all of them + just use one syllable for the word…
Shark! Shark! -> stays the same
Battle Tank -> Tank! Tank!
Cornhole -> Hole! Hole!
Astrosmash -> Smash! Smash!
Evel Knievel -> Elk! Elk!
Finnigan Fox -> Fox! Fox!
Moon Patrol -> Moon! Moon!
Breakout -> Break! Break!
Farkle -> Fark! Fark!
Cloudy Mountain -> Cloud! Cloud!
Biplanes -> Plane! Plane!
just bringing cohesion & uniformity to the entire naming system…
👍👍🥳👌🤡👌🥳👍👍
Careful pat, you don't wanna be called bad names online :o
I also heard Tommy answer the question "are original Intellivision games going to be sold for Amico?" And his answer was "wait a year"...
Who will want to wait a year for the Intellivision originals to be sold? B-17 Bomber, Night Stalker, Treasure of Tarmin, Utopia are what I expect from anything having the Intellivision name on it. Did they have a clue what makes the old system so interesting?
How to take a giant poop on the Intellivision Amico without even trying = watch this video ;)
@A Volpe sarcasm was in my comnent and a smiley face, meaning I enjoyed it being pooped on ;)
Jan 2024. I love the way you guys pick this thing apart. You don't see much critical analysis these days. That's why our society is crumbling.
It won’t be long pat before you see a stack of these with that family at the flea market
The Amico will be the Quibi consoles.
In all honesty, I've thought there was a parallel between both for as long as Pat and Ian have been covering them. Both seem based around providing a type of content that is somewhat popular, but which very few people are likely to see the need for a dedicated product or service for.
Not sure how Tommy will define success for this console but based on youtube views alone of Amico videos, I don't think the console is getting enough exposure to result in sales beyond the retro gaming community.
I'd like to hear Ian expound on his feelings about Doug Tennapel.
Basically, Doug believes that anyone who isn't a straight, conservative Christian is being controlled to spread "evil" by some supernatural character called Satan.
No way the amico press conference flopped? I mean this console has so much promise (cough sarcasm). 🤣🤣🤣
Tales of 2 opposites. Intellivision wants to make an actual game console but no signs of ability to actually produce it. Atari wants to sell you an underpowered, overpriced PC as opposed to a game console but they can produce it.
My Leg Hurts - Ryzen isn't underpowered. Top shelf? Nah. But 250 is a lot cheaper for a Ryzen box than 250 for a SoC Android ... thing.
Poor Tommy’s toy is going to be a failure..... doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see that...
"Some sort of family playing..
CORNHOLE!"
Sold 🤪
Cornhole is more fun than this "console".
Love both of you, been a fan since day one. Listen to you every week. Thank you for everything
Pat is going to get a DM within the day. Guaranteed. You guys are right, but the truth hurts, thus, Tommy being defensive.
Did u read the article where Tommy says he can't complete with the big three....but he says his console is like a Ferrari...fast and fun....hahahahaha
The Amico will never succeed it’s a lame joke
Wait till the folks over at AtariAge see this scathing vid 😬
Pfft those weirdos even troll the VCS indigogo page (um ... why?). They're everywhere.
why doesn’t tommy just go sell some fuckin sham-wows
You'll keep bringing up unity, but Tommy announced at the beginning they were using their own unique engine ( Karma) so the games may be worse then unity games lol. That may be the reason the fox game looks worse.
The "karma engine" was Tommy's special handicap system that he admitted was just a philosophy.
These games are being programmed in Unity - it is a standard for mobile game development.
@@FrogTony Like Blast Processing?
@@almightycinder exactly like it
@Lassi Kinnunen Oh, Tommy said it's a special Linux/Android hybrid under the hood.
Pat , Ian, why do I love it when you guys rip stupid things. When I saw this dumb as amiiga presser, I was giddy at the thought of you guys destroying these guys. Can you guys get into the issues with the Nintendo EShop. It’s bullshit that titles 3 years old are 60 bucks. But the major issue is that it looks like the AppStore game section. Many mobile games that basically have all grinding and micro transactions off. So much garbage...thanks for the video
That's the thing that really gets me, if someone truly has a burning desire to play games like this, they can already do so from any smartphone.
Tim F I think we all assume that everyone know basic computer programming. Maybe a subset of busy parents, who are ignorant to the cheap options.
@@liamboyle6345 It doesn't take programming knowledge to download a mobile game to a smartphone or tablet.
On the next episode of bankrupt...