Dragon's Dogma 2 Is Mostly Negative?! What Is Happening??
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- čas přidán 21. 03. 2024
- Fans of Dragon's Dogma were buzzing with excitement when the sequel was announced, but recent reviews and discussions online have been mixed, with mostly negative reviews on steam. What could be causing this divide among players? Let's dive into the details surrounding Dragon's Dogma 2 and explore what may be happening.
Dragon's Dogma 2 is a 2024 action role-playing video game developed and published by Capcom. The sequel to Dragon's Dogma, the game was released for PlayStation 5, Windows, and Xbox Series X/S on March 22, 2024.
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all i really care about is just adding a new game option and optimization. DD1 had a new game option after you already had a save.
yea no new save is really bursting my bubble
this
Only being able to have one playthrough is the nail in the coffin for me
One save per account is definitely the worst idea ever
And at the very least 2 player multiplayer coop. So easy to implement even with the time passing dynamics
I just want them to fix performance those towns man they're awful
On ps5 there really not bad
@@user-yz8py5dt5hI’m tiered of seeing this ignorant comment on like every game for the past few years. Clearly it’s going to be fine on console as console does not have the same performance cap that pc has. Pc has a higher graphic and performance potential than consoles do which many game developers do not account for when making their game client. It’s a matter of the game not being able to keep up with the pc client. ( most pc at least)
It's bad on console too, it drops sub 25 @@BronzzBloodMK2
@@BronzzBloodMK2Buy a console then and don’t look at the comments 😂😂 you mad bro?
@@TheRealChacorta No just educating idiots. I’m not mad. It’s just sad that devs these days don’t take their time to make optimal pc clients.
Performance for me. Game played great for the first couple hours.
Then I decided to go to the main city and I got Blighttown flashbacks. It’s *bad*.
Ahhh Blighttown … how I both loathe and miss it. 😂
No major issues, but I only run on "high" settings not "mega ultra"
PPL get mixed performance issues but the one true global problem is the city. I wonder if it's just optimization issue or a bigger problem to solve
CPU optimization is chalked
@@FrozenAXLit's supposedly due to the amount of npcs that get simulated inside the city. I guess that coupled with the amount of geometry from all the interiors is just really demanding, hopefully they can smooth it out with a few patches
Some of the items in the shop I agree are pointless to have, but what I think some people don't know is that DD1 actually also had the rift crystal micro transactions when the BB isles dlc came out cause so much of the stuff was locked needing RC to unveil the hidden items.
I don't remember IRL monies for BB item unlocks....??? RC were also pretty easy to get in BBI. If you wanted RC, BBI was the place to do it, pretty much every enemy dropped it. Unless you were going around unlocking all your skills, unveiling all armour, gear, novelty, weapons and rebuilding all the riftstones in BBI, you had RC to spare.
@@ruekurei88If you played Dark Arisen those were included. Dark Arisen is the version with the DLC added
Honestly, since BG3, the first question you should be asking devs and publishers whenever you get any sort of "review copy" is "does your game have microtransactions," and if you get anything other than a straight "no microtransactions in this game" from the devs or publishers, it should be in your prerelease review. in BOLD RED HIGHLIGHTS.
This.
FightinCowboy has stated that reviewers knew about the MTX prior to launch... Its on his Dragons Dogma review by him...
Upvote this man
@@dond2377 More specifically - the information about mtx shop came with the review materials.. which most reviewers decided not to read, even after playing. Great - almost as lazy as game journos..
Would like to like this comment more than just once.
Especially after infos about the DLCs were known in the review materials that Reviewers got from Capcom. But its great to see how many Reviewers react atm. Shows you which of them have integrity and which are sellouts to companies or their own profits via clicks.
I have a 3060ti and a ryzen 5600 and I still couldn't get above 20 fps in cities on low, no ray tracing and dlss. I had 3 crashes in the hour of playing I did before I refunded.
Really? i have a 3060ti and 5700x and with dlss on performance and a mix of mostly medium with some high settings i get 45+fps in the cities and have had no crashes in about 5 hours of playtime so far
@@b.a5112 Yeah it's only in cities though my performance outside of them is way better. That being said the crashes are the most annoying, despite there being autosave I somehow lost 20 minutes in the beginning and had to redo it only for it to crash again. I just hope they fix it soon as I liked the first a lot and will probably like this one too.
I'm running a GTX 1080, 16GB ram and I'll be fooked if I remember what my SSD is called, and I'm keeping a solid 30fps even in towns and im not using the lowest settings. How are you having so much trouble? Edit: I also haven't had a single crash in 10+ hrs
Of course dude, upgrade your cpu and ram lol
@@b.a5112 You have a better CPU, the game is CPU limited. Also hearing some weird stuff from some other PC gamers about it. Like the graphics options being cookey, turning down stuff and it not running well, and saying screw it, turning up a bunch of stuff, and it running fine, so I dunno.
The portcrystal feels like someone higher up saw limited fast travel as a monetization opportunity, shoved it at the game and hideaki went "you can have ONE"
Yep, they did well to preserve game balance while pleasing the suits, great game, shame about the performance, thats a fairly valid complaint but games are fixed so fast these days, i have faith
You forget the following things:
1. It has DRM.
2. You cannot restart your progress (they have announced they will add this like a ''feature'' in the Steam version but haven't said anything about other platforms), which doesnt make any sense at all.
Making it hard for mods to exist? bro within a few hours of the game being released nexus already had 40+ mods for it.... i'm actually using mods myself so the anti cheat stuff is bullshit
i have a bunch of mods already installed, and i have a trainer for the game as well. was using cheat engine at the very start to give myself millions of all currencies.
You are crying about it like your viewpoints matter to anyone but yourself.
it's because capcom is stupid and trying to go anti modding ever since the streetfighter nude chun li. they dont want you messing with their games, going nintendo mode. This effected street fighter, it effected dragons dogma, AND, it likely will effect Monster hunter Wilds to boot. They're destroying their good will with players for no reason just because of 1 freak incident.
And the Microtransactions were shadow droped, aka they hid them on purpose till launch.
I’m pissed you only get 1 save data per profile me and my roommate can’t both play like wtf
Yea that is enough to keep me from paying for this shit
No ofcourse not, you have to buy a copy each like good little consumers. /s
What you never played the original lol
@@silverflame1987 it's the same as the original game with only 1 save
@@BadEnd98Only in the original you could make a backup from that save, and start another game and thus swap players. Now all the saves are in the "cloud" and you cannot delete it and start another game. At least - That's what I understood. Changing a local file does nothing, because it synchronize with the cloud save, and the cloud save counts as the priority version. It makes sense of course, because they have to make sure nobody can tamper with that save, because the player could then be able to circumvent their payed-for DLC. And selling stuff has priority over letting the player having fun...
How is there no day one patch notes? Did they stop development as soon as they went Gold?
Did u never run over to the steam page?
since when was acknowledging their fuckups, apologizing then stating they'll fix it in the future considered a patch? @@Elzarey
@@JoeKickass63Since he got paid to lick Crapcom's boots. I hope they have good health insurance otherwise he's getting screwed over twice.
@@JoeKickass63
Release unoptimised game, say PR sorry stuff, fix later.
😅 why?
I think if they get the game running stable and let us make new characters/saves then all of this drama os gonna calm down cuz then people'll actually get to immerse themselves instead of the constant crashes they see
That still leaves a $70 game with microtransactions and purposely slow travel to incentivize those microtransactions. Not a good look for dirty Capcom, even though they have been doing these shenanigans for years, they finally get called out on it.
I can ignore everything but the new character/save bit. that’s a new low for a single player game to me, I don’t want to try and refund it just for that but depending on how they handle it I still might. I am vehemently against micro transactions existing at all but excluding the new saves bit this all really just feels like corporate greed, tacked on after the fact, without any consulting or coordination with the devs.
@@sophieedel6324 capcom is filthy for it, and the fact that they’ve been doing it for this long is another strike against them. I had to take some time just to get over the disgust, and I’m still tempted to abandon the game and get a refund just to try and punish this behavior.
I'd like to agree on trying to be immersive, but no Game dev would DARE have their npcs judge people who make silly characters, or even laugh at it
Ooo can I down vote after watching others Benchmarking?
I don't get paid when I'm broken neither should Capcom.
Its not the transactions content, its that they exist to normalize it for when it becomes necessary.
This is the only angry take I’ve seen that makes sense, but DD2 isn’t the first capcom game to do it. Pretty much standard for capcom, it’s weird everyone’s getting upset at this one this late into it
@@RiffFlairDD1 did this over a decade ago, and games like DMC5 and such also had these. Kinda childish to pick now to complain about it really.
@@RiffFlair People are mainly mad because CC were releasing all of these grave reviews for what a game that is completely different from the released game. The 'backstab' lying part is what sparks the flame. Sure, if they came out before and say, yea there will be mtx, the community would be mad, but definetely nowhere near as mad as they are right now.
@@sentryion3106 This level of MTX is typical for them. I don't like it, but you don't need to even buy anything so what's the issue?
then why no outrage before? devil may cry 4, devil may cry 5, dmc, monster hunter world, monster hunter sunbreak s etc?
I hope they add the ability to turn off film grain and motion blur
Motion blur is possible to deactivate.
@@lelysio5688Yes, but actually no. Still motion blurs. Listen, if someone has to literally add in a mod to turn on DLSS settings for some PC then the game is ABSOLUTELY fucked. Well, fucked for PC anyway. IDK about console.
@@shootinandstabbin It's literally an option in the game settings. I turned it off and have no motion blur. It is unironically the first thing I turn off in every game I play. So no idea what you're on about. You can press start and go to settings; graphics and it's right fucking there. "Motion Blur On/Off" And yes, it actually turns your motion blur off. I would know because motion blur gives me headaches.
Horrible performance. That’s it.
And the massive amount of microtransactions
Yeah, i could care less about the usual Capcom microtransaction bs. The game runs like ass, refunded xD
@@blakekoch1299 just don't buy them.... its that simple. Performance is my only concern
That definitely should be the crux of the controversy. It should be considered inexcusable to not at least have a performance mode OPTION in a game you're charging a whole ass $70 for. I really wish reviewers at large would not have been so quick to give them a pass on that because "creative/ambitious ideas" as if Capcom is some scrappy indie devs and it's any miracle the game got made at all.
@@b1zarr01 exactly. I feel reviewers were very biased. A game with this horrible performance shouldn’t have gotten 9 or 10 like it did
When they say they are looking to add the feature to start the game over on steam version.. are they adding this to console version aswell?
Microtransactions are fine for me as they’re at least optional. But not being able to create multiple save files? That’s a major kick in the balls for me
The first game was like that too. I think it has to do with the pawn system. They want you to rent other players pawns. If you have multiple characters (with multiple pawns), it'd be less likely that you'd interact with anyone else's pawns because you could just make and rent your own. I know... because I did that in the first game using 2 PSN profiles.
It does suck that we can't have multiple save files. But I think I understand why they made that choice. And there is a work around... using a second PSN profile for a second character.
@@2DFightergamingI don’t buy this at all because there are so many ways to get around this that I can think of immediately, the easiest being - you are only able to have 1 pawn published online at a time. And it would not be an issue if you switch pawns and someone already has your pawn downloaded because this already can happen if you delete your save data and make a new pawn.
I also understand the “issue” behind filling your party with your own pawns but personally since I bought the game I feel like this is a choice that I should be able to make, whether or not my game will be “more authentic” or not... it’s not like it would affect anyone else.
It's the nail in the coffin for me. It's unacceptable for a modern-day AAA RPG not to have more than one playthrough at a time.
@@lamorak9905 it's their design choice - obviously one not appreciated by many. I don't really care either way but the argument "I bought it so I should be allowed to decide" is kinda meh. By that logic every game could come with an integrated cheat module so you can decide everything. Limitations are what create identity.
@@LugaruEvolutions You’re exactly right, every single player game should come with an integrated cheat software to allow the player to do whatever they want... we usually call that modding. Instead Capcom gives us Denuvo anti-cheat... in a single player RPG... why? Because then there would be absolutely no reason to purchase their in game consumables for absurd prices (not like there is anyways but some people will buy that).
Jokes aside, I agree that limitations are great in games. I love monster hunter *because* of how “limited” some might describe the combat as. But here we literally have a single player RPG without the ability to create new characters in-game or create multiple characters. It’s not like this is a technical challenge - during development I would imagine they had plenty of ways to manage / create new characters for testing. The problem is that they are purposely limiting players for no good reason. Tell me, what is the difference between me having two steam accounts each with a character and a pawn, or one with all combined? This is literally an out of game system, in my opinion there is no “identity” being created by omission of this feature.
every capcom game does this. its weird and stupid. but it literally doesnt affect anything. you can play the game forgetting the mtx exist and its the same. and for me atleast, the performance has been really good on my pc. but i hope they fix it for the people having issues
Twitter freaks with blue hair don't care about facts, they just want to find the next thing to rage about.
You kinda make it seem like the reason ppl are leaving negative reviews is only because of the ridiculous micro-transactions, but the game's optimization is abysmal. You'll be lucky get to 30fps in big towns if you have the recommended system specs.
Maybe microtransactions were the only way the game was able to be greenlit
I remember GT racing game when they get all the reviews they decided the hit fans with online services. When they give review copies and not tell them about microtractions is already sneaky
Had a hard crash within 5 mins of first running the game...my fps been hovering sround 50-70 in town and like 70-90 in the wild.all maxed settings running on a 6800 xt i9-10900k...4 year old pc... there's times i dropped down to 30 fps but after coming from ffv remake 30 fps isn't bad..
30fps is manageable, but with good optimization, it could be so much better. The real issue is dropping from 90 down to 30. It's very visually jarring and can take you out of the experience. Capcom definitely has the capacity to fix this, so it's frustrating that it released as is.
60fps is acceptable at certain times. 120 is minimum during combat and close to 200 is what games should aim for when they test it against modern equipment.
Alot of gaming screens cant even use their buillt in features if you can't hit around 120-140 fps.
I would care if it was a multiplayer game. Its just me so i feel no pressure to buy anything else.
Also the game has crashed twice on me. Hours apart from each other. Haven't really had performance issues. So yeah I'm happy with the game
So people with more money than sense can pay to sidestep hardship. Sounds like real life.
I think Capcom has some sort of mandatory MTX quota
The main issue to address here is the poor optimization when playing the game resulting in crashes and unplayable performance.
Monster Hunter World which is made by the same company has over $500 in dlc and somehow we're raging over DD2 dlc?
It was all purely cosmetic, no covenience items at all, neither performance problems.
Mindless NPCs have to be told what to get mad about in CURRENT YEAR
and these are pointless ones. nothing is being locked@@j0obn255
There was a 35% of the overall playerbase on Steam of it that riot over that before. Plus the horrible performance and server issues wasn't helping at the time. This was prior to Iceborne, and the port to PC. It was horrible. The DenuvoDRM is most likely the culprit for impacting the performance. After they removed that, the performance was heavily improved.
Another thing to point out, was that the MH:World's MTX was purely extra cosmetics, unlike MH:Rise. That is a big difference. MH:World sells cosmetics for addons and room decorations and it was never the Weapons nor Armor, excluding the pre-order bonuses. MH:Rise received a lot of flak for MTX of those said Weapons and Armor. That's why the reviews for Rise is lower than World. That's why the sales are also lower but CAPCOM thinks that people just prefer World, because of the large scale of it. If so, I believe this is going to happen to MH:Wilds too when it comes out. Since CAPCOM does this all the time. Not listening to the playerbase.
@@Asriel_Cypher man the mtx dont have anything to do with the lower sales, you gotta realize that 90% of buyers are casuals and they dont know at all about mtx, hells i have 400h and bought sunbreak and i didnt know about any mtx drama for rise.
MHW just hit a much bigger audience compared to rise, rise is just a sidegame for portable mainly.
Games dont get lower sales cause of mtx, the only thing that affects is the actual longevity of the playerbase, look at diablo 4, its dead now but the sales were crazy good regardless.
The portcrystal is weird too since you get one for free after doing the first chapter(?)
And they're reusuable
I dunno, I've also seen reviews about people complaining about Denuvo as well. Why does a single player game need an anticheat? Probably for the microtransactions is my guess, but then I ask why does a single player need so many microtransactions?
The way I see it we shouldn't be having microtransactions like this in a single player game at all. People should just be against this kind of corporate greed by default in my opinion. Also, without microtransactions there would be no real need for Denuvo to be on this game.
So the internet is being the internet
My issue is the *no new game option*, leaving you with only ONE character per account. unless you go into the game file themselves to delete save data as a work around. which is just... why?
The pawns
I wonder how much the starting a new game option would cost.
I don't really care about the DLC because I have no need for them and I knew these where just shortcuts for those that don't feel like playing it for long.
The fact you can only have a save at the time too doesn't affect me since I know you don't need it to enjoy the game (many are saying they want to try multiple builds but the thing is, this game is like Monster Hunter: your gear affects your stats the most, just switch between vocations and you are done, you don't need to make a new character and even if you want to make a bigger or smaller character for the mechanics of weight carrying or stamina repletion and speed just edit your character, it's ingame and really easy to get what you need for it).
Im only miffed about the lack of the option to start all over again the game like you had in DDDA (By hitting new game or switching to hard mode) and how bad is the optimization but the former barely affects me since I usually don't want to restart until after I beat the game and the latter is the reason I never buy a game in the first 5 months of it's release.
I find it interesting that the camping kit gets brought up so much, since it's part of the deluxe edition and I didnt see any outcry over the deluxe edition contents
Everyone’s just bandwagoning and being melodramatic
Yeah like I literally had a Camping kit in the first hour of gameplay.
If I’m not mistaken outside of some rift crystal packs and some wake stones everything else is just the deluxe bundle busted down.
I hate MTX as much as the next person, but the amount of hate being directed at this game in particular is wildly disproportionate compared to all the recent games that intentionally gut the game to push them. Add on the fact that a lot of people are straight up lying about them, saying you have to pay for any of them, and acting like they're not available in game otherwise (They are... they all are... easily), either through sheer ignorance, or through some disgusting desire just to mislead people.
Ubisoft, Activision and EA all put out nearly every single game they release with predatory microtransactions and no one bats an eye. Dragon's Dogma 2 includes them but DOESN'T gut the game in the process, and it suddenly gets shit all over. I agree that I'd rather them not be there at all, but they are so non-intrusive to the game that you can't even access the menu in game beyond the title screen.
There are legitimate reasons to critique the game, like the abysmal performance, so I'm not sure why people feel the need to lie or spread misinformation instead. This is one of the least intrusive inclusions of MTX I've seen in recent history, and yet somehow it is receiving way more hate than any other game for it.
It's not disproportionate. It is compounding result of yet another anticipated AAA game that adds MTX for no justifiable reason. How impactful the MTX are doesn't matter. People are sick of this. Had this been a different highly anticipated AAA game doing this, the reaction would have been the same.
Not to mentioned that people already made it clear with MHW, MHRise and RE4 that they do not want Capcom to do this.
The vast majority of hate towards this game is due to performance and crashes. It is literally unplayable for a lot of people. The anti consumer practices is just salt in the wound and triggering people. Remember when companies started to charge $70 because people were complaining about mtx in games and they said they needed to raise the price instead? Yeah here we are.
Being mad that they purposly hid a feature thats controversial among players is disproportianate? How?!
Its still bad that there are mtx in a full price single player game as we never know if they actively make the game worse because of them. In addition they knew about the shitty performance and PC port issues and what caused it and didnt try to fix it
In addition they will make you accustomed to the mtx and then in the next game its suddenly needed. This will in the large run make gaming worse. Why even have mtx in singleplayergames ????
You CANNOT acquire the explorers camping site nor Heartfelt pendant in game, they are only sold via MTX. All Arekkz showed was there was a specific quest to get a better one, but even then, there shouldnt be player progression/power in a MTX in a single player game. Also, FightinCowboy outed reviewers stating that they knew about the MTX prior to launch is his latest video....
Hows performance on ps5 guys? I had 0 problems within 150 hours of Elden
I’ve played 3 hours on ps5 and haven’t had any issues. Honestly I was annoyed with the 30fps but it’s not terrible so far. Again, I’m only 3 hours in but so far, so good.
@@jeffreydean5112 Glad to hear. Yeah the 30 fps isn't ideal but as long as its not stutter is what matters
It's a simple answer: People didn't know what to expect.
The people who played the first game love the second as well. The people who didn't know the first game expected some kind of insane triple A title instead of a literal successor to a game they don't even know.
I have a big problem with not being able to freely make a new character/save.. You could in DD Dark Arisen! But no.. We’ll be paying a couple dollars to Capcom to change appearance.
You can buy an appearance change for 150 rift stones... you do not have to pay real money... this is going around and its a huge lie.
Yeah, the single save is highly irritating. There is no reason to not be able to have multiple, concurrent playthroughs going.
@@therageatgames That was never the case in any DD game. what the person is complaining about is that you cant actually do "New game" like in other DD games. but there was only ever 1 save file at all times
DLC
@@thepaleitalian2726so are you excusing this like it’s a good thing?
I don't really care about the MTX in the game honestly, Only gripe i have is the performance issues which i don't think they will be able to improve in the near future at all.
And performance issues are a pretty big issue for something being billed as a new, AAA game.
The way I see it running it just screams previous gen/budget title so I'm eagerly awaiting them to knock a bit off the asking price to get the price to match the budget effort on display.
Ok did you just seriously delete my comment pointing out that Capcom did in fact include information about the microtransactions in their media review kit? WTF man
Nope, sometimes CZcams self moderates comments. SOME people did receive a media kit with the DLC information included, it seems like UK-EU content creators didn't and even when we asked for additional guides related to the ending they didn't send the one with the DLC information over.
If we did would have pointed it out like we did for Granblue Fantasy Relink and we certainly wouldn't be lying about it in a video that thousands of people would be seeing and could easy be fact checked
You can see another creator Rurikhan talking about it here:
czcams.com/video/OTgxR3RNT4k/video.html
@@ArekkzGaming I appreciate you taking the time to reply to my comment. Thank you for the clarification.
I see people saying pay to win and it makes me laugh. It's a single player game and the rift crystals are for pawns. It's pay for easy mode.
I love this game. The only REAL issue I had was sprint and pickup were the same button on PS5. That was easily fixed in the options. I've dropped frames like 2 times, and it was for a split second.
I wouldn't be surprised if most of these are fake.
I think the microtransactions are a purposful trap for those who dont bother looking into the game, probably not the Dev teams fault but Camcoms pressure to monitize all their games after purchase
well deserve, any full priced game with micro transaction deserves to get negative reviews.
@@kusog3 That's a lot of games then man. Helldivers 2, the people's favorite, has micros. Does it deserve negative reviews as well? Ae you gonna live the rest of your gamer life being angry and upset at almost every single new release?
Microtransaction Drama, Capcom have been doing this for years and yet NOW everyone gets butthurt?
I doubt its ever been this bad tho lets be honest lol
@@noblekenshi4637mh rise was absoutly atrocious with the mtx saw this comming a long way off tbh
No. People were just as mad when they got added to MHW/Rise. People were just as mad when DMC5 had them. You are just out of the loop.
They added them on launch day. Told no one
Because the game has denuvo and runs bad, MHW Iceborne had bad reviews as well. Rise didnt because it ran good, just some bad reviews of ppl who didnt like Rise because it wasnt like World.
The fps isn't an issue to me. It plays smoothly on consoles. Im sorry for those who want more. Again, it never bothered me personally. My gripe is the no new game that forced you to manually delete the save file altogether. That really needs to be addressed. Otherwise, the games story and game play are great to me.
I'll purchase it when they fix the PC frame drops. It's just unacceptable. I can't even think of the last game that dipped to 20-30 FPS on a high-end rig.
I'm playing on an RTX 4090, Ryzen 9 7950x at 4K, I'm having to use DLSS on balanced, and I'm getting as low as 42fps in the capital, and as high as 120fps(my refresh rate), it swings that wildly vrr does nothing. When I'm out adventurering, I get a good frame rate that is both close enough and high enough for vrr to work properly and it's pretty smooth, apart from traversal stutter and shimmering on grass due to a bad implementation of DLSS.
This is unbelievably bad performance in comparison to what I'm used to.
Damn I only have a 4060...... You think I should get a ps5 copy?
@BarnzTT it seems to be CPU limitations rather than the GPU. As far as I know ps5 and series x dip into the 20s of fps because they have a weak cpu. It'll also depend on what resolution you want to play at. In all honesty I'd wait for a couple of patches
@@Rocko130185 Thanks, but too late. Bought a copy on steam......
Yeah, the MTX don't bother me cuz the game does not seem designed around making you need them. The no restarting your character is dumb, and they really should change that. Also hopefully the optimization will get better. Overall though, I'm quite enjoying the game and not running into any issues. Super fun, and that's what I really care about, if it's fun. For me, it is.
Running great on my PS5 about 4 hours in. No slow down, or crashes. Can save whenever I want. I think the pawn system is great. You can find them at the Rift, but if you lose a hired pawn in a fight, you will find replacements out in the wilderness.
Remember when a horse with armor dlc was scandalous? 😅
6:20 So what I'm understanding is, they can't fix the performance yet. It's something they have to work on in the long-term, so there's a possibility that it would improve somewhere in 6 months at the earliest and most optimistic.
Talk about shitty development. If their game was going to run like ass then they should have delayed it.
It's because of the DenuvoDRM. CAPCOM will not budge on that because they don't want their games to be pirated. DenuvoDRM was proven to be the problem for performance issues back when Resident Evil was released. I believe a certain channel tested performances proved this. Thus, it's ironic that they put DenuvoDRM to prevent piracy, but pirating the game actually gives you a better game performance, so people pirate it. That's why they said they'll look ways to improve performance in the future, because they do not want to remove DenuvoDRM. They also hate the idea of mods, desite people finding ways to mod it anyways. They kept doing this whole "against the community" thing and it's not pretty to look at... I like CAPCOM for their games but sometimes... They make the most confusing decisions... Most likely because they're a Japanese Company? That their mindset is a bit... far behind?
The reviews were mixed when I saw it this morning on Steam. Also, for the whole "Microtransaction" issue let's not forget the OG Dragon's Dogma had them too. Buying rift currency and starting equipment packs and wakestones and such is nothing new to Capcom or Dragon's Dogma. They're entirely optional and don't contribute to a pay-to-win style. None of them have to be purchased. So I don't see what the big deal is there.
Honestly the biggest issue for me is performance. I have a 4070ti, and the first time I started up the game the audio was desynced in the opening cutscene and the game hung numerous times. I ended up skipping that cutscene entirely and just went into gameplay. From there, it was a locked 60fps for me. Granted, a 4070ti isn't anything to scoff at GPU wise. I don't have those kinds of performance issues that others experience, even in towns. The OG game was not 60fps regardless of how you played. This game feels just like the OG title to me and I honestly don't mind.
the issue is they should not exist if people accept this companies will push the bar further and further. Also I just dont want to fkin see it after paying 95CAD lmao
The main issue that all game companies know how people feel about MTX and they still decided not to disclose that they were going to include MTX. They shouldn't have them in the fist place, but if they did they should've at least said something about it before launch
Theres items in the MTX shop that you CANNOT get in the game. Thats a difference between DD1 and DD2,
Once again Capcom doesn't have to "push" with there MTXs. They have been micro sense 2008 and they use almost the exact same type of micro for literally all there games.
They don't need "push this forward". Stop trying to stir up shit when you blatantly know nothing. There isn't a principal your fighting for.
Game seems incredibly CPU heavy, would be more illustrative to list your CPU. If you're using a 6 year old CPU that's on you tbh.
The worst thing about the game isnt the MTX for me, for like many others said its dumb they exist but theyre not needed. The save system is what makes me mad, because of the fact they made it actively worse than the original games. In the original game you could also only have 1 save, thats nothing new, but not only did they keep that but they then removed the ability to start a new game so you can quickly change your character if you're not completely happy with the appearance....
You can technically go into the steam files and delete a save to start a new game, however, you also need to turn off the steam cloud, so if you spent time with their demo creating a character you can no longer use it because it requires the steam cloud to pull that data into the new game.
In other words, they created a demo for character creation, made the new game have only 1 save file (worst part of the original game), removed the ability to start a new game (making the one bad part of the og game worse), and also made it so if you delete your save, you have to also turn off steam cloud so then you can not use your character created in their demo, and to top it all off they just so happen to sell a character edit book in the store on a single player game hopping their player base is dumb enough to not complain, not play the game, and buy it blindly.
Here's what's bugging me about a lot of the complaints I'm seeing: replace "Dragon's Dogma" with "Helldivers" and watch the reactions flip.
How did you get the game in general to be that bright? Seriously, my game is as dark AF and I cant' seem to get it any brighter.
Fix your TV/Monitor
@@arabiancandybar Already done that. Tbh, I hate HDR, it's way too dark for me. Thanks anyway 😁
would be nice to have normal save options, able to restart game. better performance etc
I just dont understand why they didnt say anything prior to release about the MTX. If they had been upfront about it and emphasized items could be gotten in-game, the fallout wouldnt have been anywhere near as bad.
A lot of games do that nowadays. They figure they'd just not say anything so that the critic reviews can't say anything about them, hurting the preorder sales. But you figure that they would care more about the long term health of the game rather than focusing on the short term
the DLC has been in the steam store for weeks....
I think what really bothers me about this is that someone called it "pay-to-win" and everyone just joined the hate train, without thinking about it. It's not even pay-to-win and the items are just deluxe edition content. It's not required to buy these things at all and you can easily get them ingame. It's super sad that people can not be constructive anymore and use the review sections of many games to release anger :/ It's really a shame-
You can only buy them once. Plus they are just selling stuff that was included in the deluxe addition.
I bought the deluxe edition and got most of these items.
Same
Same here.
Im on ps5 and im having fun 😊
The games fantastic despite what people say.
The game is fun but some missions made me feel stupid 😢
Like for example I assumed it was like the original where you had to buy a pickax in order to mine.
But there was none and I’ve been searching for it for an hour until I gave up and just tapp on the ore only to find that I had it up my ass the whole time 🤦♂️
Veteran DDDA player here. I haven't had the chance to spend hours on DD2, but my initial impressions are kinda mixed as of now. It definitely doesn't quite feel the same as DD1, but that might change once I level up enough and unlock more augments and skills. I wanted to try out Archer, and haven't played any other vocations yet, but I am liking Archer. I was afraid that removing the dual blades would result in problems dealing with enemies up close, and while it sort of does present issues, I think that the Pawns aid you enough to allow you to maintain some distance. Up close the Archer doesn't have a whole lot of options. The kick button comes in handy, but isn't exactly ideal, and as of now, Archer can't create distance fast enough imo. I hope additional options are unlocked as you rank up, but if it stays the way it is now, you wouldn't really be wanting to go on solo adventures with this vocation. It doesn't quite feel like your maneuverability and evasiveness is compensating sufficiently for that lack of a satisfying close quarters presence. It's not like a bow focussed Assassin vocation. More like Ranger, with how heavy it sometimes feels.
Moving around on the map, across the terrain also feels distinctly different now, and it's improved in some regards, but feels slower or heavier in others.
Armor/clothing options also took a major hit. DD1's was superior. I don't (yet) have the impression that I can make my character look the way I want her to look.
I'm currently still figuring out where everything is and who does what (shops and such), and it's all a bit confusing, and maybe a bit much to get used to quickly. But perhaps time will remedy that. There's also a peculiar sense of a lack of purpose and direction as of now. Sure, it's cool that you can explore a giant map right away, but I find myself running around in circles, or what sometimes feel like circles, because the terrain is often indistinguishable from other locales. Again, it's too soon to form a valid opinion on that, but I'm doing sidequests that I'm not really digging tbh. Get some girl in the slumbs pieces of gold, then get her some medicine, etc., deliver ghost dust to the nun, lend some kid a sum of money, find this thing, chase that boy. I don't find it impactful or gratifying. And sure, DD1 had sidequests like that, but that's a 12 year old game.
Still, I can't say I'm not having fun with it, because there are definitely times when you are enjoying yourself, but it's not quite the amazing game that I was expecting (based on recent reviews and general hype levels). I think my biggest gripe right now, aside from some performance issues, is that it doesn't 'feel' like the first game. The atmosphere is different (not better), and while the gameplay feels fresh and has potential, I think I still prefer DD1's (slightly) faster past and more responsive mechanics. That's just my initial impression. I'm hoping it's just a case of getting used to.
I just hope the performance is updated, I saw the Steam Deck Gaming video that says when playing the game does not fully utilize the cpu and gpu so there is something very wrong about their performance. I just hope they can optimize it so much so that it can be played 30fps on a steam deck...
$70 and you can't even delete your save and create a new one. Your save is stored on their servers. You only have the 1 save.
Speaking for the port crystal mtx and even some of the others the creator may not have had any input on what was available or its price. Yoshi P of ff14 kinda has a deal of he has full control of the game and story but no control of the cash shop iirc
The main issue is the weight and inventory system. If your heavy in the first hours, it means the game is literally about managing your weight THE ENTIRE GAME!!!
I'm honestly enjoying the game, but I hope they give the option for multiple saves.
So people said that they didn't give it because of the pawn system.
I feel the MTX backlash is a bit over blown. This was the same back in DD1. They did added an item in game that let you change your character with an unlimited use later on. Hopefully, they will do it again.
It's not overblown at all its shady as fuck
They are testing the water all the time , i say no more stupid MTX , especially for single player , Witcher 3 success with very few MTX , the one they had was expansion or actual useful feature , if it is cosmetic , it is free . Here we see Capcom sell cosmetic with 1/5 of the price of an expensive game . Some may be not buy it but other will , and that is what MTX do , they will fiddle around till they find 1 that will strike your fancy and make you open the wallet , all of them cost money .
@@iouplayyy9191 how is it shady? They seem open as hell about stating that these items are all obtainable just through playing normally. People are just so scorned by other companies like EA that the second they see a pricetag they start acting like monkeys and throwing tantrums, it's an optional skip button that most people will ignore and forget about.
@mcsoosh1822 they hid it from reviewers never said there was mtx before release and shipped it without a word
@@kampfer91said it before not testing the waters this is the exact same micros sense the original DD and EVERY Capcom game has micros going back to 2008.... what the hell do they need to test. It's always the exact same MTX too.
even if the MTX can be earned in game if we do not stand our ground here it will become the industry standard for single player games and we may have pay to win single player games so keep the pressure up
Eh? They did this in Shadows of War, years ago, in game shop with prompts. The last Deus Ex too, even more years back.
We had the same microtransactions in part one over 10 years ago...
All this talk about "omg they are going to push it farther and farther, just you wait and see every game wil cost 1694 $ in microtransaction in the future!!!", is really undermined by you people losing your minds over a game having the same stuf from 10 years ago...
Get a grip man...
Also, if we boycott & downvote this game and/or cause it to sell fewer copies, we will not get games like this anymore. Just more Fortnite clones and long cinematic bore-fests instead. Is that what you want? Is that worth "standing our ground"?
Microtransactions are here to stay dude -- the businessmen beholden to their greedy shareholders run the show, make the decisions, pay the devs. So let's buy and celebrate good games rather than crap games ... before all the good games go away (like has happened with music, movies, TV). Videogames are literally the last medium where you can get this high quality of a fun experience in 2024. DD2 is awesome.
@@sonicmania9993 I've endured the FPS and the game is, very good, it's like an accessible, open world, DS1. This was hyped way too much, probably 40% of the people were never going to like it at best.
They got hit with the trinity - crashes, performance issues and mtx.
I'm loving the game so far on PS5, the 30 fps feels pretty normal since i just came directly from playing DDDA.
The micro transactions are just a cash grab for the players that are too lazy to farm anything, especially the one time use gaol key.
Fighting cowboy confirmed that all early reviewers new of the mtx that were gonna be added to the game on release
Man I was super hyped for this game. I didn’t preorder though because the obvious and purposeful lack of PC gameplay being shown. I watched moist cr1tikal last night trying to play and the crashes were unforgivable. I cannot justify supporting a game that charges $70 has no delete character option, mtx, denuvo, and seems to be unplayable for a lot of people. I can’t bring myself to risk $70 on the “chance” that may be one of the lucky few that it runs ok for.
0:29 It sounds like it’s stated that reviewers “weren’t made aware”/“had no prior knowledge” when it comes to the MTXs.
But even people who were sent For Review details have said they had read it in the given material, and only didn’t mention it because Capcom always have useless boosters.
It was just assumed that most who buy into Capcom games already knew this and were going to do as always… not use them.
I'm on ps5, been really enjoying the game so far. Funny to wake up to all the negativity and drama. I will concede though that steam players get shafted release after release. A tale as old as time.
microtransaction patched since released but optimization is "looking to fix near the future" i cant 😂
You're right, you probably are incapable.
They are a one time purchase on PS5 at least. So it doesn't bother me that much. I can see how gamers would get angry. I would rather not have these predatory practices though.
i mean you also said it i think
its performance is bad on all platforms
and then there's the whole shop thing i think
i love the game but i guess that's that
This was an amazing review. This helps me actually purchase this game. Was worried I needed to buy some of these items.
It feels sluggish and a bit clumsy compared to the first one. I keep wanting to roll dodge. I want the roll dodge back!
Yea I noticed there no I frame Dodge. That liked the main part of action fighting mechanics. How you suppose to I frame a Boss that shoot big aoe attack
The roll dodge was only on Daggerists in DD1. Thief, the Daggerist vocation has a dedicated Dodge button.
It's still not a "ROLL" dodge, and theres no double jump.
@@ProfessorBalth
@@Killerwhale317 There's a way higher mobility ceiling though... Have you seen how Thiefs can move?
@ProfessorBalth I played the last one for years, and I was pretty good at the combat. This new one, though, is poorly designed. I know what you're saying, im just nad that the changes dont feel like it's for the better. 😫
the argument that you can get these items in game anyway isnt a good argument, these microtransactions should not be in the game in general. plain and simple
But why is wrong?
Just don't buy it
It's more the fact that they added them after the reviews so people who wouldn't have purchased the game if they had known already got the pre-order . It's a scumbag practice regardless @@Yawar25
@@Yawar25 people just like to cry, i understand not liking micro transactions when it comes to the stuff in said transactions being locked behind a paywall but this isn't the case at all, erverything is obtainable so there's no reason to cry about there being an option to pay to skip ahead if someone wants. Same people crying about this OPTION are the same people crying about not having other options like multiple saves (which is something I agree should be added).
Why? These microtransactions are affecting my game experience not at all.
A few cheap time-savers/conveniences help people with busy lives or who aren't so good at games enjoy this game some more, for the first 10-20 hours or so. Why is their ability to have fun offensive to you?
No that's a good argument, if you can't hold yourself from buying them then that's your fault. Those microtransactions been here since many years and will still be in future games.
My advice, wait a bit then sail the high seas with a cutlass and an eye patch. Then if it's really worth it, buy it after two years at a sale.
Haven't had any real issues on my PS5 and yea the microtransactions are a greedy and disgusting move but it don't affect my opinion on the overall game.
"fast travel is limited to encourage exploration"
translation "some open world games with tedious traversal used exploration as their excuses for just bad travels so we think we should to"
It’s an awesome game, I don’t care about none of this stuff. I’m loving it
As it should be, you pay full price for the game and you get the full game
Same
imo if corporate told them to add useless mtx just to make extra cash, they shouldve just made some cosmetic items like the jesters hat in DD1. small things that have no impact on gameplay so people cant complain but die hard fans will still buy and corporate will get their money
I am Kinda worried about Monster Hunter Wild! at this point .
You are supposed to encourage replayability in your game. especially if its an RPG, not take away the option too. whoever had the "genius" idea only 1 char per play should be thrown out a window 😒
I'm waiting for a random $1.99 charge to show up on my PS account from using their character creator.. 😒
Thats not how that works and this is why this game is getting the unnecessary hate it doesn't deserve because people like you when you pre-order a game and they give you the stuff that becomes purchasable that doesn't mean they're going to take it out of your PSN account later😂😂😂
@@Sted916boy settle down, francis, it was a joke 🙄
@@Sted916boy btw: games don't receive "unnecessary hate" - if it's ass it's going to get called out for being ass.
stop apologizing for mediocrity.
The main issue is the game unoptimized, thats is, for mtx is optional , u can get the item from in game.
i don't give a cow about the selling of the items outside the game i just want to see the floor when i play not clear patches of grass and rock
those microtransactions literally dont matter woah its gonna help for the first 4 hours in a 40+ hour game resident evil has mc too and no one said anything 🤣
I played the game 12 hours today on ps5 and I haven’t found anything negative.
Same fam. I'm reading all this and wondering if we are playing the same game.
@@JustGiggs Is it true? Thank the heavens.
@@RadishHead7 I'm not excusing mtx since that is a trash practice. Buuuuut, the game is fun. Hell, maybe my eyes are trash and the 30 fps is really bad. But I'm fine. Gameplay is solid. To each their own tho. I like it and my wallet cares less what others think. I loved DD1 and DD2 is just better. All that matters is are you ok with what's there. If the answer is yes, go for it. If the answer is no, protest it. Fun game. Love it so far.
Played now over 30 hours and its still a masterpiece. Love everything about it.
Same fam
As a long time gamer the only problem I have with micro transactions is if something is locked behind it. If I can obtain the item in game without to much trouble then I don't really care. Or if it's just a skin or something cosmetic, I look at that as like giving the game devs a tip because you like the game. If however something is locked behind a transaction or if they say "you can get it in game" but its super rare impossible thing or currency to farm so you pretty much HAVE to buy it, That's where the problem is
The RC bundles were in DD1, no one bought them then. Performance issues? Absolutely need to be looked at. The MTX feels like much ado about nothing.
I already refunded it, the fact that there isn't a new game option and the optimization is so bad is too much to ignore even though the gameplay is great
Have you fully beaten the game?
Games not even 24 hours old with a base campaign of 50+ hours and your needing a new game option already? How?
@@torukisaragi2712 maybe some people want to try a different build? Imagine that
@vprocop79 change vocations? They changed the way stats work they change based on your vocations so yall are griping over the inability to create a new character when the game works in a cycle.
My main problem and the reason I didn't buy was because of the no new game option thing. The fact that you have to stick to a single character and save file is such BS, I'll buy it when they fix that and has at least the same save files method as DD1, which I don't love, but is better than this.
Fully agreed, MTX are no prob to me since i will not buy them and you dont need to if you don´t wannato, the one character made me do a hard pass
It’s good you can gain all the for sale items in game. Because of that, it seems like purchasing items are waste of money.
This trend of people crying about a game having dlc or microtransactions, Is like going to a restaurant, ordering a steak, then getting mad you didn't get the entire menu for free... lol
Nail in the coffin is performance, shitty performace can be the downfall of any game, the microtransactions is alright if u can obtain those items in game, its just also the fact that why add microtransactions in the first place? This is a single player rpg game with no multiplayer, we already spent 75$ dollars for the whole game and now they expect us to buy something for 2-5 dollars. I understand the hate for microtransactions and its the idea of adding it to a single player game is what i would assume is the reason for many players being angry about it, including me. Again, microtransactions doesn’t affect me at all, if they improve the performance i sure as hell would still play this game.
- Many games have performance issues at launch. This game is super-playable.
- They don't "expect you to buy something for 2-5 dollars" -- those time-saver items are purely optional, and anyway they are findable in game if you really want them for free, just like every other RPG since the early days of gaming.
This is a single player game. You play alone. To be honest who cares if there is micro transactions. If there is a skin or whatever that makes you look cool or something you got a choice to get it or not. Hell..if there would be a buy this and become level whatever who fking cares in a single player game.
I personally am loving DD 2 my only complaint is I miss the way armor work from the first game and I don't want the micro transactions but that means I won't use them. Its not like you have too
The problem I have with these micro transactions is that we have been waiting a VERY long time for them to release a new entry in this IP to then ruin the fanfare with micro transactions that NO ONE was made aware of prior to the release.
Plus as you have said, they are basically pointless. It shows how capcom does not have faith in their own brand and is something of a stab in our backs by them. I now absolutely refuse to EVER purchase Capcom products ever again. They have killed what little faith I had left in them. From now on I will have to think about future titles that I will be waiting for from other publishers to hope that they don’t make the same stupid mistakes. It’s just a real turn off.
The ONLY thing I would justify paying so much for a game to then shell out more money is for expanded DLC that gives MULTIPLE things at once, or a keys to the city type dlc like Crackdown did for its first game way back when. But this? This is just scummy.