Katharine Hepburn Didn't Like Me - Jane Fonda
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- Katharine Hepburn didn't like Jane Fonda -- can you believe it? Jane explains why.
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At least Miss Hepburn was honest. If someone has a problem with me, I would prefer that they tell me to my face.
Bridget Ryder Honest?She was a CLOSETED BISEXUAL, who messed around with a MARRIED MAN.
Bridget Ryder 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼oh yeah
@@kimerietate382 wasn't that 70 years prior ?
Hepburn was head over heels for Spencer tracy and vice versa .
They broke it off and tracy maintained his marriage until his death. Moral failing but it happened years ago and was something she learned from
Kimerie Tate Feel better about yourself now that you’ve attacked a dead woman’s reputation?
I mean, Are you just stupid or a bigot? Not a rhetorical question. Ofcourse she was closeted. You try being OPENLY bisexual (openly anything) in the 30’s, 40’s, and 50’s etc.
And as far as having an affair with a married man goes, who cares?? I guarantee you have family members that do more salacious things.
Your comment smacks completely of ignorance and misplaced self-righteousness. Besides, It’s always the self-righteous ones that are the worst human beings. People like you have something wrong with them. Most of the tome Either intellectual laziness or stupidity, but you seem like both.
So much for manners.
LOL!! The late, great KATE was the very first MAJOR celebrity I ever met. It was the winter of 1982 shortly after she won her record FOURTH Best Actress Oscar for ON GOLDEN POND. We were both patients at HARTFORD HOSPITAL in Connecticut where I grew up. She was recovering from a serious foot injury sustained in an automobile accident on an icy road and I was recovering from surgery. We used to drink hot chocolate and play checkers in the rec room. I was only 14 years old and a HUGE fan. I let her beat me at checkers most of the time bc I could tell winning was very important to her. But, she was also very kind and told me funny stories in that singular, unique voice of hers that was instantly recognizable. It was an UNforgettable experience that I never forgot.
Its truely amazing if its a true story.Well,we will never know.
Wow 😳! I am soo jealous. How special!!!
You shouldn't have let Katharine Hepburn beat you in those checkers games you mentioned. These so-called "celebrities" do not need any more special treatment than they already receive, as their egos are quite enormous enough without being fawned over and being granted any extra privileges based upon their being well-known.
It was honest of you to at least admit your having noticed Miss Hepburn seemed to be consumed with this need for winning even a simple game of checkers with you, though. Why do you suppose she had that compulsion to prevail in competition with others?
Did Miss Hepburn listen, at all, to any of your own stories, jokes or anecdotes (if you had any to share with her)? Or was she only concerned with you listening to what she had to say?
Even Miss Hepburn's having refused to appear at Academy Awards ceremonies during years in which she was nominated for Best Actress shouldn't earn her a pass, as she received more publicity by not showing up for the Oscars than if she had just attended the ceremonies. The act was certainly not based upon any sense of humility on Miss Hepburn's part.
Interesting that Katharine Hepburn chose to have her foot surgery and recover at Hartford Hospital versus at a more prestigious Boston or New York hospital, or even at one of the other internationally renowned medical facilities, such as Johns Hopkins in Baltimore or at Minnesota's Mayo Clinic. I wonder if Hartford Hospital was chosen by Miss Hepburn because that is the hospital with which her urologist father had been affiliated. Could she have had something like a lifetime discount on medical care at Hartford Hospital?
Lastly, why do you use the name "Truman Capote" for your CZcams posting here? Unless that name is, by coincidence, your actual birth and/or legal name, it is obviously misleading to use that name on a public website, since the name is one which had belonged to a late and well-known author.
@@gymnastix Jeezus, lighten up....
What a wonderful story! Thank you for sharing it
Ms Hepburn doesn't seemed like the person who talked bad about people behind their backs. She just went to confront the person directly about her feelings.
Its so true Cal L. Its humorous to me that Ms. Hanoi can cry victim about others in the past but its right after Ms. Hanoi torches you and talks behind your back; the sign of an elite or so Ms. Hanoi acts like.
@@Dbusdriver71 it’s humorous to me that you let one photograph in 1972 dictate your entire opinion of this complex person. People are more complex than a single action they do or don’t do. It was 50 years ago. My goodness, bless that bitter heart.
@@Dbusdriver71 You're a fool
@@Jocelyn_Jade Exactly. I am astonished at how our Reich wing media (Faux I'm looking at you) has made us turn on one another.
She didn't like Meryl Streep either. She felt that Meryl was too hung up on technique and it showed that she was acting instead of making one believe that she wasn't.
Meryl sleep was applauding for Roman Polanski. Now go do research of what kind of man Roman Polanski is when he took advantage sexually of a 13 year old girl and then he went to France when he was about to get convicted.
Hollywood is vile
@@Christian_Ada1 I was paraphrasing a quote that Hepburn made about Streep's acting---not sure how Roman Polanski came into this lol
@@charlesswitzer8378 Welcome to the wonderful world of the CZcams comment section :)
I think JF nailed it "She didn't like people to have attachments - except to her"
Bette Davis thought Meryl was the best contemporary actress before she passed.I guess there were varying opinions about the younger generation of actors by the legends
A friend of mine was working at a hotel many years ago. Jane Fonda happened to be staying there and when she was getting ready to leave they sent him up to help with her luggage. For some reason the limo was delayed and she asked if he wanted to sit and wait in her room. She sat in the living room with him and they talked for like 20 minutes till the car arrived. He said she could not have been nicer.
she should have been that kind to our servicemen.
Oh my God, she actually chatted with one of the little people for 20-minutes? I'm tearing up. I mean, most of us do that every time we're in an Uber or what have you. But for her highness Hanoi Jane to have engaged that sort of sacrifice with a mere hotel employee? Truly awe inspiring. Where is she, so we can all bow at her feet.
Tell how nice she was to prisoners in vietnam that she said vietnam should execute them! What if that was poor family menber of urs in a vietnam prison and u saw some rich famous woman get on tv and tell enemy they should execute ur family member. Thats exactly what she did! She s horrible person
So what?
@@vincentmancini6279 She has been apologizing for being young and stupid for about 40 years.
My admiration for katharine Hepburn has grown immensely after the revelations described here by Jane Fonda.
Katharine Hepburn, what a great woman.
You admire a person who does not know another person saying to that other person on first meeting them "I don't like you"? Only an insecure jerk does that. Nothing admirable about that. It's not like Jane Fonda was on record as a bigot or as a person lacking empathy.
@@gheller2261 "A bigot or a person lacking empathy?" Are you for real?
Me too, actually.
@@joeanonymous1834 Um, yeah. You might not have liked her politics (although she turned out to be mostly correct), but she's not a bigot and her political activities have always been directed to helping the "other."
@@gmh471 You must be about 15-years-old. I have no idea where to even start with you. So, I won't.
Jane came to my college to speak, I wanted to go see her but had to attend a class so I missed it. A couple of hours later I was walking off the campus and who do I see walking by herself, Jane Fonda. I went up to her and we talked and walked together, she was meeting up with the car that would take her to her next destination. She was very nice to me, she was taller then I imagined too. Decades have past, time flies...
My brother worked at her house in oldsaybrook ct. Back in the 70s and my mom was picking him up one day at her house. She had some rabbits and chickens, and I remember being out of the car and running after a chicken.
She popped out the door and yelled at me and said..get away from those chickens.
I remember distinctly she was not very nice.
My brother was good friends with her brother Dick and I remember him saying they were both very private and picky.
It appeared she wasn't a fan of too many people from the storys from my brother.
Just something interesting to share I guess.
Thank you for sharing. As a lifelong fan, my impression of Hepburn is that I never wanted to know her ... off-screen.
@mulemule Agree, im a big fan of a very well-known drummer, Niel Peart, who appears to have the same intense personality as her. I do understand, though, as I get older in general, I can't imagine adding being famous W/aging and not being able to go anywhere without being recognized. She must have been really nice personally, though my brother did speak happily about them.
@@jw2877 Agreed: there's much to envy Re: celebrity's lives but living under unrelenting public scrutiny (magnified 10K by the echo chamber media) is not one of them.
It's super classy that you can still speak well of people who you know didn't like you. And it's also super classy on Hepburn's part that she still helped a younger actress despite not liking her. More people should look to these ladies as an example.
This woman has nothing to do with class, she got Americans killed...how is that class I ask you?
No, she didn't. Old myth, she didn't get anyone killed.
+Mrs. Phyllis Stephens even janes father was discussed by her ..liberals are such fools and crybabies
Jane Fonda was young at the time, but she wasn't just starting out or anything. She was already in her 30's when On Golden Pond was released.
Mrs Phyllis...talk to your doc about some hormone replacement therapy. I think you've flipped over the edge, my dear.
I once saw Marlo Thomas's husband, Phil Donohue, interview Katherine Hepburn, on his show. He devoted an hour to her talking about her autobiography called "Me." At the end he asked her to autograph a copy for him. She asked his name and admitted she didn't know him despite his being on TV for 28 years. She wasn't kidding. She had him spell his last name. He laughed but was flabbergasted.
I remember that! it was hilarious. She said, "Donna-Who??..." and the man looked livid.
That's an old way of slamming a person that is full of themselves or a phoney At the end of the conversation and their all puffed up or think they made a new friend. You point blank ask them, Who are you? That just deflates their Big ego. Learned it from an old politician when BSer came looking for something. Hepburn being an old New Englander would use that kind of passive aggressive remark.
I remember a person who told someone who they were. He kept walking and said "Of course you are".
Correct...
Hepburn did not act like she was the brightest bulb in the box. I wonder if she had Alzheimer’s towards the end, seems kind of nutty as a fruitcake to me.
My Uncle Al once told me about the time he had experienced Hepburn's "prickly" personality. He happened to be in a small general store in Connecticut, not far from her home. As he was leaving, she rode up on her bicycle. After recognizing her, he said, Hiya Kate! Apparently, not liking his overly familiar way, she glared at him and said "up yours"! He told me, he wasn't insulted, he thought it was funny.
That just sounds like she was nuts to me... I wouldn't have found that one bit funny, and I don't take myself too seriously, mind you!
@@user-tp9hm2iq6p you have to understand the world she was raised in..and the life she had led..she shirked tradition in many ways (wearing pants) (affair with Spencer Tracy) ,and the "high society" expectations places on her from the time she was a child. If we but only knew..we may be less judgemental of her..she was far from crazy...in fact she was brilliant..
She was just a moody artist, that's all.
frankly, it is understandable that she would have been insulted by the assumed familiarity of a complete stranger. It was disrespectful. Times have changed now and it may not seem to be as big of a deal but in her time completely understandable. I wouldn't call it prickly, just standing up for herself.
@@lenpey Not an 'artist', an 'actress'. "Oh, Spensah, let's fake a straight love affair...It will be smashing to hide our fruitiness!"
Well there's about 300,000 bikers you can add to the list that let all the patches express what they thought about traitor jane.........
Hepburn was extremely stubborn and inflexible as a person, she made up her mind about a person and that was that, doesn't mean she was always right but she was very black and white and fixed in her ways
I did not think she should have insulted Meryl Streep. Rude. Meryl is a good actress but not the most beautiful. Many think overrated too. But lets give her credit. Kate she is not that bad.
BigDeanoSyd Now how could you possibly know that? (Genuinely curious).
Superfluous Chins I spent a bit of time with Kate Hepburn before she passed away while resident in New York city and I am in contact with Jane Fonda from time to time, I met Jane at a dinner party in London a decade ago that was hosted by Cate Blanchett who I'm very close to, so there you go.
Interesting! I would love to have met La Hepburn-- despite her shortcomings. I'm sure you feel very lucky. And Ms. Blanchett is a superlative actress. I assume you're in entertainment?
;)
I think that is pretty rude Of her to say I don't like you at the beginning of a project and I now have so much less respect for her and how disappointing to learn what she was really like.
I used to see her occasionally around Old Saybrook when I kept my boat docked there, but I never approached her. One weekend I had a twofer, I passed Paul Newman on the highway while on my way to my boat in Old Saybrook, and then later that afternoon I saw Kate in town
I just saw " On Golden Pond " for the first time over the holiday. WOW, what a great movie!! My husband got a kick out of Henry Fonda and I loved the part where Jane Fonda told her dad she wanted to be his friend.😢😢 I'm going to purchase it to have with my other classic movies.
That is true, but she was just 20 years old. I was very against the Nam war. I think we lost that war, and gained nothing. Fonda'a mother committed suicide when Jane was very young. Neither she nor her brother knew why. Henry also said NOTHING. This must have hounded her all of her life.
"Katherine Hepburn didn't like me." That's good enough for me.
+J kK, I was looking at Katharine Hepburn interview and spotted this one. The first thing I thought was, poor Jane. Yes, she will always be Hanoi Jane for what she did in VietNam. She has never apologized, nor has she ever understood the wrong in what she did. At least to my knowledge. It is difficult for any of us to forget.
She absolutely apologized. She also met with many of the vets who were there at the time, and many of them came away forgiving her. It was a terrible war, and the US did some remarkably bad things in it, and we lost it almost before it began.
@@swarzeoz2550 She actually didn't give a full and proper apology. She was trying to sell a book, when (40 years after the deed), it suddenly, became beneficial for her to apologize (sort of). She only apologized, for allegedly, having been "led" to the anti-aircraft machinery, where she was subsequently, photographed, laughing with the Viet Cong. She never apologized for everything else that she did, while down there for 2 weeks. I wonder how many young people were tortured and killed, while she wined and dined, with the Viet Cong? She spoke on their airwaves, making statements that were all, directed against America,. She did all of this and more, at a time when very young, men and women, were bravely, fighting a war. American soldiers suffered horrible torture, and death at the hands of the very people who she visited, supported, ate with, laughed and sang with! She never apologized for having gone there, nor for the vast bulk of what she did there. She only offered a lame "apology" of sorts, for having been photographed on the anti-aircraft missiles.
We all know when someone is giving a sincere apology, and when they aren't. I personally, don't think that she is capable of giving a true apology. Some people are literally, incapable of apologizing. They're too weak. Like her. I just can't respect them, though I might pity them.
I don't care for Fonda, or her brother, generally (that is, aside from her treasonous, cruel, uncaring, actions in 1972). I truly, think that she is a person, who was terribly spoiled, and who ultimately, evolved into a narcissist. She and her brother, have further lost my respect, by the way that they have criticized their father in public, long after his death. I don't respect her for a number of reasons, with treason, heading the list.
@@kl.1993 You wrote that she never apologized. That is a lie. Did you even bother to research it? No, of course not.
We all know now that the Vietnam war was wrong and instigated by the highly corrupt Nixon. If only more people like Jane had spoken up.
I think Ms. Hepburn expected you to *earn* her respect. From all I've read on her , and seen of her in interviews, she didn't just hand out praise willy-nilly. I think we've become accustomed to that these days, just expecting to be fawned over.
Gee can't imagine why....
I heard this said by the writer of "On Golden Pond" on a DVD commentary. It wasn't political and it wasn't even personal, really. Katharine Hepburn found Jane Fonda annoying and complained that she visited Hepburn on set too much, because the woman wanted her space and Fonda was trying to build a repartee (and genuinely liked Hepburn too). The screenwriter seemed to ascribe this to Hepburn's cool manner with people (which he spoke of experiencing at length on the DVD track, though he also credited her for making the movie happen.)
KH was quite aware that she had little to prove, let alone fear or compete with at that time in her professional life. You are correct,....she did the movie, and though she never appeared at any of the Academy Award ceremonies, ( save once, to present the Irving Thalberg award to a man she admired, Lawrence Weingarten.), won her fourth Oscar for her performance in it.
Hepburn was one of my all-time favorite people, not just because she was a star but because of the strong person she was. I sent her a note once and she sent me back one that she wrote on Christmas Eve 1992. Obviously I still have it.
telling someone that has never been mean to you that you don't like them, says a lot about the teller
perhaps, but Jane never says why KH said she didn't like her. You do not need to be mean to a person for them to not like you. There are a lot of politicians that I don't like and I would say it directly to them if I met them, and they have not personally been mean to me, however my reasons for dislike are very strong. Jane did say that KH did tell her why. We can only guess the reasons. Jane was involved in quite a few controversial things, maybe it had to do with that. KH was a perfectionist when it came to acting, maybe there was something in Jane's past acting history that sparked the remark. Who knows.
@@tamoshanter6268 I was brought up not to be mean spirited. It's not like Jane Fonda asked KH what she thought of her.
@@tamoshanter6268 wrong, there was no good reason for it especially towards a motherless teenager.
Katherine Hepburn did her own fall into the Venice canal in the film 'Summertime'. The canal was also a public sewer but she did the fall without thinking, and she caught an eye infection that she never got over. Had to use drops everyday. This is why her eyes were always glassy and red afterwards.
I think it was ear infection, not an eye infection.
kuroniro1 Feel free to Google...
hjarten eye problem was from the movie "the African Queen ",you dumbass
kuroniro1 eye infection
@@nancyneville8700 No, you're the dumbass, and rude at that. I watched an interview with Hepburn and she definitely said she got an infection when she had to jump in a Venice canal for a movie scene.
This is wonderful; thanks for letting us see it on CZcams.
Katherine Hepburn wasn't alone.
I suspect her own father couldn’t stand her.
Yea Fonda is not a likeable person
Katherine Hepburn chose people of real substance as friends. She demanded principles from any friend she may have had in life.
and hence the reason she wasn't real fond of Hannoi Jane.
Are you implying that Jane Fonda is not of real substance and principles? That would be hilariously absurd, and stupid.
@@russs7574 Dumb.
It just hit me that Jane Fonda is about the same age in this video as Hepburn and Henry Fonda were when they made “On Golden Pond.” And Jane’s still going strong in 2019.
Jane looks so much younger than either her father or Hepburn at that age. Granted, neither one had plastic surgery.
Now I like Katharine Hepburn even more!
Indeed! I used to have a mad crush on Jane Fonda when I was a teenager. Then, I left Cuba in 1980 and a couple of years later I found out some things about Jane that turned my stomach. Even her own father disliked her for her political views and the betrayal to this country.
Why?
Same here Bill.
Me too. Jane should go off and live in North Korea.
Me too!
Always knew Hepburn had good taste....
There were also many others who didn’t like her. There was her trip to N. Vietnam and her and Hayden’s politics in Santa Monica.
She apologized for doing that and admitted she was wrong decades ago.
All you have to do today is say your sorry and then anything is ok.
@@lindauribe6872 She expressed opinions, she didn't murder anyone.
@@fionah3433 take an egg and throw it on the floor then apologize to it... You'll notice that the apology doesn't count for shit in repairing the damage done to the egg.
Yes. Some old crabapples still can’t let it go and repeat false embellishments to the story.
What a bore.
Jane's life was unconventional to Kate. Jane had so many lives and has evolved in so many ways that some people may judge and misunderstand her. I admire both Kate and Jane. Look at the affair between Spencer Tracy and Kate Hepburn for many years, that was unconventional. That is life with Kate and Jane and nobody should judge.
Fonda and Hepburn; BOTH strong survivors. Many people who work together do not like each other, they just don't come out and say it ...they usually stab you in the back quietly.
@J. K. and to think, she speaks so very highly of you.
I don't blame her for not liking Fonda. What American likes a traitor?
Interesting she hated you but she liked you at the same time 🤔😉 Old school teachers ways to get you focused
To what extent did Hepburn believe that Fonda only became a major star because of her father?
I wondered that too.
And Jane didn't like me! I attended the infancy mental health event at the governor's mansion in Santa Fe, walked up to Jane and thanked her for her performances, and reminded her we met once before at Berkeley...she said nothing....just started flirting with the cameraman across the room~
A bit of a kick in the teeth Brenda..I hope you moved on in the knowledge that you were the better person, since having Hollywood status and money, doesn't buy class!!
And I'm certain, on another day, things would've been different. Imagine someone of her stature, having to put the 'glad act' on to all whom meet her. I'd give her a pass here. I've read also, that she's quite nice. We're all human and nobody is going to be perfect all the time, or meet some standard or expectation. I'd simply be honored by Jane's presence. Cheers.
You'd have to imagine there are countless people walking up to her everytime time she's in public. However grateful she is for her success, it must get tiring sometimes. Give her a pass for having an off day.
God bless people who are true to themselves. To hell with anyone's opinions, esp. on social media.
Jane came to my College ..Whittier.........to speak.I was the campus dinning rm supervisor and you were so rude to all of us.This was 1970........I was happy to see so many walked out on you at the ampitheater.So bravo Ms Hepburn!
In the early seventies, when I was a teenager, a friend of mine was working for a hotel in Chicago, when Katherine Hepburn checked in. He took me to the hotel so that I might catch a glimpse of her. As we were pulling up to the hotel, a horse drawn carriage was approaching, and, to my surprise, Katherine Hepburn was the passenger.
She was wearing a big hat, with a scarf, the same way I had seen her wear them on television.
My friend asked, there she is, are you going to say hello to her? I didn't, because, I felt I would have been intruding.
From some of the comments on the thread, I have to say that I am glad I didn't approach her.
I didn't know her, personally.
I knew her as an actress whose movies I liked.
Had I approached her carriage, and she had been hateful to me, I would have been very disappointed, and sad.
I'm surprised, when I hear some people say that they " love " a celebrity, as though they know them personally. . .
Deborah 5122 Very true, I used to work in the Industry, and they are nothing like their onscreen selves.
Marjorie Margel that’s why it’s called acting.
Most of the time, meeting our favorite celebrities ,actors or musicians, can be a disappointing experience.
M Zz
miss Hepburn told another actor, I think it was Anthony Hopkins,”don’t act, just say the lines. “
''interviewers'' who constantly interrupt
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You mean Marlo Thomas?.....Hahaha. put some respect on her name.
She ain’t alone.
Isn't it hilarious when someone bothers to say they don't like you. It's as if "am I supposed to be crushed by this revelation?" 😁 The best answer has to be "goodness, I hope you can get over it"
Jane Fonda always comes across so well in interviews, she has had a fascinating life and worked with some incredible people and always has a really interesting, illuminating story to tell about it. I admire her honesty and love her self-deprecating sense of humour. Great lady!
Maybe you should make that remark to the families of our soldiers that she helped to destroy.
She's a Scumbag !
@@sandiwinters4400 destroy,? That's an overestimation of her behaviour
Jack Shite Our soldiers deserved EVERYTHING they got for what *WE DID* to that country. We had no fucking businesses in Vietnam.
@Jack Shite Jane Fonda's actions were not anti American - what was anti American was the war mongering foreign policy that brought about Vietnam. The US rightly got its ass kicked by the Vietnamese - but how tragic so many boys from BOTH sides died in the name of an indefensible war! Jane was courageous to speak out and take a stand and I am astonished that all years later anyone fails to see the folly of the Vietnam war. SHAME ON YOU.
How not to interview people, Jane struggling to answer questions because the interviewer keeps asking questions before Jane has finished.
The interviewer? That's MARLO FRIGGIN' THOMAS - a great actress herself.
How's that relevant?
If you want to cringe watch Megan Kelly interview her. She beings up Jane's plastic surgery out of left field totally awkward cringe.
@@nazur72 Wow!
@Ed Miller Marlo Thomas has been nominated for several Golden Globes and Emmys - even winning an Emmy for her 1986 movie "Nobody's Child" (1985's "Consenting Adult" and 1984's "The Lost Honor of Kathryn Beck" are also GREAT). She has three other Emmys, as well as a a Grammy Award, and a Star on Hollywood's Walk of Fame all to her name, too.
I don’t understand how people can idolize someone like Hepburn or make light of their ugly demeanor and bad behavior. There’s never anything remotely cute, funny, or enduring, about rudeness or insulting others.
People who knew her loved that part of her, it was what made Hepburn, Hepburn.
It doesn't matter if everyone doesn't like her, she simply didn't care. I think many need that attitude today.
@@tigergreg8 There's a YUGE difference between being an individualist and not being respectful towards others. Sounds like you're acting like a jackhole too? If so, it's not cute. #BeBest
@@tigergreg8I heard that many times about her 😂
👍👍@@Ladybhive71
Even If you are excelent in something, you don't have to be so cold and so mean like Hepburn..about Fonda what can I say..least when she talked, she has a better carisma .
Hey me either!
Dorothy Parker on Hepburn's acting range: “She runs the gamut of emotions from A to B.”
perfect. leave it to dp. 🙂
I'm sure Kate Hepburn's four Academy Awards will help her feel better about herself. lol
Dorothy Parker had issues herself, didn't she? Being a tormented alcoholic like DP isn't exactly something to strive for. Maybe Parker shouldn't have been throwing rocks? Js
Nice
As digs go, that's a very good one. I don't think Hepburn had much range; what she had was personality. Parker made the quip when Hepburn was still very early in her career, I believe when she was dubbed "box-office poison" just before she got her first Oscar.
According to QuoteInvestigator.com: "The writer and movie director Garson Kanin was a close friend of Katharine Hepburn and Spencer Tracy. In 1971 he published “Tracy and Hepburn: An Intimate Memoir” which revealed the personal knowledge he had gained through his friendship. The book also described an interesting episode during which he questioned Dorothy Parker. Kanin knew about the harsh remark credited to Parker, and he was surprised when she recommended Hepburn for an acting assignment:
“I thought you didn’t like her,” I said.
Those great brown eyes became greater and browner.
“Me?” said Dottie, “I don’t think there’s a finer actress anywhere.”
“But what about ‘all the way from A to B’?” I reminded her. “Or didn’t you say it? Or do you think she’s improved?”
Dottie sighed. “Oh, I said it all right. You know how it is. A joke.” She looked distressed. She shrugged and swallowed. “When people expect you to say things, you say things. Isn’t that the way it is?”"
It's great to hear Jane Fonda's honesty about her relationship with Hepburn. Love Fonda and I think Kate probably finally liked her.
Jane's hair style is soo beautiful
Is it not-that is how I wish my hair was !
Katherine Hepburn must have been a good judge of character.
Oh, she was....
Jane Fonda is a miserable bitch.
Yep, I never cared for Hanoi Jane either.
I see Katherine Hepburn was a good judge of character...
Hepburn was full of herself, and a bad judge of character.
@@ananita6888 You're insane.
There must have been a reason why Katharine Hepburn didn't like Jane Fonda...Wonder why Jane didn't tell Marlo the reason or reasons why!...
Did you ever see Hepburn in interviews? She was a bitch. Ain’t complicated.
It probably had something to do with Jane’s political views during the Vietnam War. Jane was known as “G.I.Jane” because of her protests against the war in the U.S. & abroad. There were some photos taken when Jane was over there & she didn’t know that she would be posing with a member of the opposition’s army. She was just a young girl & was basically tricked. The press got a hold of the pics & they went viral.The press crucified her & accused of her being a traitor. She has really never been able to shake that narrative because many older people thought she should support the war regardless of the reason we were at war. She was supporting the troops by wanting it to end. Our troops were not accustomed to fighting in that kind of terrain & their captures were torturing our soldiers. They held many P.O.W.’s (Prisoners Of War), for years after the war was over. It really was an unnecessary war, in my opinion as well. A friend once told me that “Men in suits will send your young people to war every time, but they don’t necessarily send theirs, or go themselves!”. I believe that is true.
She did say, at :54 - because Jane was married, with kids and a pet. Hepburn thought actors should have no attachments.
“There were reasons”. I wonder if Vietnam had anything to do with it.
No, Ms. Hepburn was extremely liberal, was friends with many actors who were considered “leftist” and supported Democratic candidates and causes all her life.
Deidra Egan thanks, but being a Democrat and supporting the Vietcong could be considered as two separate issues. But you could be right. It might have just been a personality conflict.
L Karamazov I think KH was an extremely good at determining one’s character. And Hanoi Jane has none.
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She was. But the Democrats supported the war. At least until 1973.
@@luisllorens70 Spot on. Troop levels really ramped up under Kennedy and peaked under LBJ. They started to draw down under Nixon.
Apparently I have something in common with Katharine Hepburn. Life is good.
You, me, Kate, and thousands of Vietnam Veterans who would not give 'Hanoi Jane' the time of day!
Wow! My respect for Ms. Hepburn just went thru the roof! Bravo, Katherine!
The unfortunate thing is if she wasn’t famous you’d just think she was a bitch and move on.
If someone told me they didnt like me, I wouldnt have listen to her to take the dive.
you do not say that to a very young person, in their teens.
I met Marlo Thomas when she came up to me at Dino's restaurant one evening and someone introduced us. I told her mom liked her TV show That Girl, and that was the end of that girl. 😊
I met, or almost met, Jane Fonda when she did a bit from her FTA show at an ACLU meeting in a park somewhere in West LA. I was standing off by myself on the grass and she came over near me with her back turned and lit her cigarette. She had her Klute haircut. I didn't interrupt her, and that was the end of that girl. 😁😁😁 Ah, the 70s!
My roommate worked for a film producer who in turn worked with Marlo Thomas professionally. This was after she was married to Donahue. One day Thomas gave her a lift somewhere in her limousine, and my roommate surprised me by relating that Thomas swore like a sailor through most of the ride. It was Fck this and Fck that, and much more besides. Doesn't matter to me...I'll always have a crush on her from That Girl.
Hepburn had an extraordinary gift for seeing the essence of people in a single glance. Jane and her father were often at odds and Hepburn’s loyalty was to her own generation.
love Kate
Jane doing the backflip herself made the movie more authentic, so Miss Hepburn was kind of like a brilliant acting coach lol
I loved both Jane and KH in OGP❤️
i have only seen the film once but i would imagine that there was some sort of antagonistic feelings between the character of Jane's and miss Hepburn's vying for the attention of Henry Fonda's character.perhaps miss Kate was indeed trying to help Jane formulate her character to the fullest.I wonder what would be the possibilities of Peter doing a play version or film.could be interesting?
Burned into my memory forever, Marlo, is Ketchup Soup. I must have been nine at the time. I can still see the scene to this day.
Katherine Hepburn was a great actress. Dont confuse her talent with her personality. She was a rather spoilt and thoughtless elitist. If you want talent and grace in a single package might I suggest another Hepburn. Audrey Hepburn.
That is total bullshit Your describing Fonda. Hephern was as down to earth as they come. She had no patients for stupidty or women who acted dumb to please men. She was salt of the earth
She didn't suffer fools well, so she wouldn't have tolerated you.
@@claramerchant9210 neither of you know either of these women. You cant judge them when you dont know them nor have walked a mile in their shoes. I met Jane and she was the kindest celebrity i ever met...and i wont forget that...and Katherine Hepburn was raised in a very stoic elitist family and era..she bucked traditions (wearing pants and having an affair with Tracy) but can you imagine how hard it must have been for her to cope with a changing world while being brilliant herself? We don't know anything ...if we but only knew...
Love Katharine Hepburn, one of the greatest actresses of all time.
KH was not known for being nice. Kind of like Betty Davis. Brilliant, but mean.
I only ever saw Hepburn play one character, the same person in every movie. Like many actors, she had a good presence, and could memorize, recall and fire off lines brilliantly, but was one dimensional in the characters she could portray. She didn't play a role, the role was written for her.
@@jaelge oh george. how correct you are. hepburn couldn't act her way out of a paper bag. same person every time. could not go deep. think of hepburn and then think of an actor like eva marie saint in waterfront. kate hepburn couldn't touch one's heart.
She was great in Breakfast at Tiffany's
@@ianbauer4703 That was "Audrey Hepburn"…. No relation..
Loved her frigid performance in "Klute".
And the Academy agreed!
Blond Thought
-- And the ICONIC Haircut!
She was brilliant in Klute, just amazing.
Fonda's best performance, in my opinion. She got the Oscar for it too.
Many now feel Jane should've won a third Oscar as a marathon dancer in "They Shoot Horses, Don't They" in 1969.
Jane, you were amazing in "California Suite" not many characters can make me laugh out loud but you did exactly that in that movie.
she was amazing in Hanoi also!!
FIRST...bravo ladies. Bravo. Marlo, my dad looked like yours when he was younger. He ain't nowhere near alive. Fact is...in 5 short years he would have been 100. But, yeah...you and your dad came up in my home growing up. Jane, what can one say to a living-icon of a human being. Yes, you did some stuff. Thanks. But it's who you are that makes me and those that get you..LOVE you and you're amazing heart. Peace to you both from Wisconsin.
Imagine that!!!!
I would trust Hepburn's judgment.
As an actor absolutely, you would be stupid not to.
You bet.
Ridiculous. Jane Fonda is so easy to like. Loved Hepburn, but clearly she’s wrong here
@b carb yeh, yeh, yeh...so what?
ALWAYS, compared to Hanoi Jane's !
One time Phil Donahue (Marlo's husband) interviewed an elderly Hepburn. Donahue was very upset that Hepburn couldn't remember his name (or didn't know who HE was). He tried to really make the elderly woman look really bad. He felt offended that someone didn't know who HE was. I used to love Phil. I've hated him ever since. And Jane loves to praise people, like Hepburn, and rip them at the same time. I think they call that Passive/Aggressive.
Fantastic video that shows Ms. Hepburn's real personality.
Blessings
Hepburn didn't like her? I'm in great company!
Great video...love Jane & Marlo...💖🎅...2 lovely ladies...2 originals...Jane has her father's eyes...wonderful 😃
Indeed, they both chose their best field of work; also, most fruitful, each others' "just right" career sequence.
Yeah, I'm with Hepburn, never liked this spoiled insulated traitor, either!!
@Blue Wave 2020 typical tolerant LIBTARD. Pitiful!!
Great story, and so honoring of Katherine Hepburn. A fun story, full of warmth. Love to you Jane & Marlo!
dont worry jane, they love you in hanoi
Katharine isn't the only one that doesn't like traitor Jane!!!
even Ted Turner dumped that well used snake ..... ' old floppy muff !
I'm an almost 54 yr old male, and know nothing about the Hanoi Jane stuff, but I do know her story, and to me she's one helluva strong woman, and a very good actress. She went through a lot growing up, and is still kicking butt and looking good at close to 85 yrs old. My favorite movie she was in was 1978's "Comes A Horseman" with James Caan, and I also like her in "Coming Home", also 78', and her role with Robert Dinero in Stanely And Iris was also great.
You should learn about it.
A picture of her sitting in an anti-aircraft gun battery in NORTH Vietnam DURING the Vietnam war clapping her hands and laughing. Not something that would endear her to men fighting and dying in a war NO ONE could justify. Even the French were smart enough to get out of and leave us stranded!
@@63bplumb Well I'm a patriot that loves his Country, with all of the love and respect for the great soldiers that fought for it, and that's enough for me. F her. I knew she was an activist, just didn't know the extent of it. Surprised she could play the role she did in Coming Home, and surprised she would be cast for that role.
@@63bplumb Not only the pictures, she said anyone soldier who participated in the war should be executed. She's a traitor.
@@63bplumb AFTER we helped them in France and Belgium etc.
Jane's 1:41 impersonation of Kate's voice is a spot-on funny caricature.
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No one liked the Vietnam war dork. Protesting the war is fine. BUT, POSING WITH THE ENEMY, IS GOING WAY TO FAR. THESE SOLDIERS YOU WERE POSING WITH WERE THE ENEMY, THEY WERE KILLING OUR SOLDIERS AND YOU SEEMED TO BE CHEERING THEM ON. YUCKING IT UP AND HAVING A GREAT TIME. ONCE IN THE LIFETIME OF MOST PEOPLE WE ARE FACED WITH A TOUGH DECISION, A DECISION THAT MAY HAUNT US FOR THE REST OF OUR LIVES. JANE FONDA MADE ONE OF THOSE DECISIONS, AND HER DECISION WAS TO POSE WITH THE ENEMY, AND THAT WAS A VERY BAD DECISION. I HAD FRIENDS KILLED IN THE VIETNAM WAR, AND THEY WERE KILLED BY THE SIDE YOU WERE POSING WITH. I HOPE THAT IT'S UNGODLY HOT WERE YOU END UP.
Terry Smith it was a stupid war that we never should’ve gotten involved in! Leave her alone! My god we’re all human so the enemy to her was a human race, let it go!
Madame,
Madame, I didn't like the war either. BUT, like it or not, HANOI JANE ROOTED FOR THE OTHER SIDE. THE VIETCONG WHERE KILLING AMERICANS. HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF SOMEONE IN YOUR FAMILY (a father, brother, best friend, or someone down the street was killed fighting the Vietcong) and you see HANOI JANE posing for pictures with the enemy. NO ONE LIKES A WAR, BUT, THEY HATE TRAITORS EVEN MORE. I HAD 3 FRIENDS KILLED IN VIETNAM, WHILE HANOI JANE WAS KISSING UP TO THE ENEMY. I'M SORRY, BUT, JANE FONDA IS A SCUZ BUCKET.
jane fonda's a seriously good actress. no one can ever deny that.
that's all right Jane I think you will find there are a lot of people who don't like you, there are a lot of people in the sixties and seventies who will never forgive you.
Amen to that!
I agree with her that the war was wrong, but then she went off the deep end going to Hanoi and making that broadcast for the Vietcong. She’s since expressed regrets for doing that, and it seems she might have been on a lot of drugs at the time, though that’s no excuse.
Because they have no life, and never grow up.
Jane Fonda apologized and admitted she was wrong decades ago. It takes courage and integrity to do that ~ but to "never forgive" someone who made a mistake in their misguided youth and has since admitted fault and apologized...not so much. I hope for your sake that others are more emotionally generous to you than you are to her.
@@fionah3433 She was in her 30s, she wasn't a teen or a person in their early 20s.
Let's be real. The list of people who don't like Jane Fonda is endless. The legacy of Hanoi Jane.
Everyone go watch the movie. You’ll get it. It so great and funny and tearjearking. The bonus is Henry Fonda at his most stubbornness best
I must be weird. Because if someone came up to me and said, "I don't like you.", my big mouth would spout back, "Well, I don't like you either.", and go about my business. I don't care who it is.
OKAY!
I'm with you ;)
Good for you!
I knew I loved Kate, the woman was a great actress and even more a great judge of character
If true, then it's an indication of Hepburn's good judge of character (or lack thereof).
Do you have any videos of Jane talking about her movie "Julia"? I was curious how Fred Zinnemann directed her and Miss Redgrave in that wonderful scene in Albert's restaurant. Thank you.
Love ya Kate RIP .. 1st Cav 70 -71
Hepburn didn't like me #lifegoals
What an honor! :P
Why?
@@tomkellycartoons Because just knowing Hepburn had an opinion of you is amazing.
Good for Katherine Hepburn. She’s very wise woman. Jane couldn’t fool her, like she does the fans. Jane Fonda always plays the victim role. Henry Fonda never talked in public about his children but Jane Fonda always said bad things about her legend father. Henry Fonda always talked great about his children. He had class and a brilliant actor. Victim Jane Fonda, poor Jane. All her mistakes she blame her father , it was always his fault. The problem with her is she was a spoiled brat. No one had perfect parents and she had it better then most people. She’s a millionaire and has lived a long life. Still plays a victim and still promoting communism. She is not a true patriot. She careless about the poor. She lives in a bubble like all of Hollywood. .
I've never heard her say why Katharine Hepburn didn't.
NOT MANY OTHER PEOPLE LIKE YOU.
Thanks Ms. Fonda and Ms Thomas, er Marlo GREAT to see ya back!
In Jane’s book she wrote about living in NYC behind the brownstone home of Richard Nixon. Her window faced his backyard and she said that he would relax in his garden wearing a suit and tie……LOL !
A very attractive lady! But why the hell did she go to Vietnam during the war to support the other side earning the nickname Hanoi Jane. She could have protested at home like everyone else. Her actions went beyond protest and were border line treacherous.
K Higgins...it seems when you have some money and some fame there will be people popping up out of the woodwork to encourage you to use your platform to support their agenda. In betting there were people putting her up to it and convincing her she had a duty to speak out and all of that. She was young and trusting and idealistic. I can't imagine how hard it would be to learn your life lessons in the public eye.
Wonderful insight. Thank you, ladies. You are both very inspiring.
@Darren Taylorwell, aren't we just a tad unhinged.
@Darren Taylor yawn.
@Darren Taylor is that the best you got? Yawn 2 The Sequel.
@Darren TaylorYawn Trilogy. One Yawn is never enough.
Hey,hanoi jane,news flash,nobody else does either.
She wasn’t alone!
That was an interesting snippet of gossip. Katharine Hepburn may have been a difficult person to get to know and took a long time to warm up to people. The stories Jane Fonda tells are interesting but I loved seeing Marlo Thomas. I was a big fan of her dad and hers as well. She also married Phil Donahue of whom I'm a big fan. I loved his show. -Subscribed!