Nazis in the German Democratic Republic
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- The division of Germany after World War II led to different approaches to dealing with their Nazi pasts. The denazification process varied from thorough in the American zone to less systematic in the French zone. The Soviet zone implemented denazification swiftly.
Internment camps were used, with poor conditions in the Soviet zone. Differences between zones arose during the re-employment process in the late 1940s. Many historians criticized West Germany's denazification as ineffective.
The GDR distanced itself from its Nazi past, portraying itself as anti-fascist, while also distancing from West Germany. The GDR employed show trials and propaganda to highlight West Germany's perceived Nazi connections.
In both parts of Germany, denazification faced challenges, and interest waned over time, leaving many guilty individuals unpunished or punished excessively.
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Pictures:
• Hans Globke - By Bundesarchiv, B 145 Bild-F015051-0008 / Patzek, Renate / CC-BY-SA 3.0, CC BY-SA 3.0 de, commons.wikimedia.org/w/index...
• Theodor Oberländer - By Bundesarchiv, Bild 183-23645-0002 / CC-BY-SA 3.0, CC BY-SA 3.0 de, commons.wikimedia.org/w/index...
• Persilschein - By Stadt Burgkunstadt - Stadt Burgkunstadt, CC BY-SA 3.0 de, commons.wikimedia.org/w/index...
• Section of Prisoner of War camp located in Rheinberg, Germany. In this camp, there are 89,000 men." Photographer: Corporal LA Frano
• Waldheim Trials - Verhandlung gegen Ernst Heinicker (21. Juni 1950). - Von Bundesarchiv, Bild 183-S98268 / Rudolph / CC-BY-SA 3.0, CC BY-SA 3.0 de, commons.wikimedia.org/w/index...
• Waldheim Trials - Audience - Par Bundesarchiv, Bild 183-S98084 / CC-BY-SA 3.0, CC BY-SA 3.0 de, commons.wikimedia.org/w/index...
• Globke in Bratislava Slovakia 1941 - Von Bundesarchiv, Bild 183-77013-0002 / CC-BY-SA 3.0, CC BY-SA 3.0 de, commons.wikimedia.org/w/index...
• Draft Globke Document 1937 - Von NS-Administration - Neues Deutschland (DDR-Zeitung) vom 5.11.1960, Gemeinfrei, commons.wikimedia.org/w/index...
• KGB document about Oberländer’s activities in Ukraine - Von Soviet KGB - Gemeinfrei, commons.wikimedia.org/w/index...
• Konrad Adenauer - Von Bundesarchiv, B 145 Bild-F078072-0004 / Katherine Young / CC BY-SA 3.0 DE, CC BY-SA 3.0 de, commons.wikimedia.org/w/index...
• Judgment of Globke - Von Bundesarchiv, Bild 183-B0708-0014-017 / CC-BY-SA 3.0, CC BY-SA 3.0 de, commons.wikimedia.org/w/index...
• Judgment of Oberländer - Von Bundesarchiv, Bild 183-72704-0001 / CC-BY-SA 3.0, CC BY-SA 3.0 de, commons.wikimedia.org/w/index...
• Entnazifizierung - FDP Poster - FDP-Wahlplakat zur Bundestagswahl 1949 mit der Forderung nach Beendigung der Entnazifizierung - Von Graphischer Großbetrieb Georg Stritt & Co - Haus der Geschichte, Bonn; www.hdg.de/lemo/objekte/pict/N..., Gemeinfrei, commons.wikimedia.org/w/index...
• Erste Kundgebung des Antifaschistischen Blocks, August 1945; von: Abraham Pisarek; Quelle: Deutsche Fotothek; Lizenz: CC BY-SA 3.0 DE.
• Persil - Von Bundesarchiv, Bild 183-09625-0002 / Funck, Heinz / CC-BY-SA 3.0, CC BY-SA 3.0 de, commons.wikimedia.org/w/index...
And video footage from the National Archives.
Info: I have been made aware that the footage I used at 3:06 is not post WW2, but post WW1 footage. My apologies.
Good. 😂👍
@@viewer7200 Those little boys were on a winner with their beer trolley business 👍👍.
I was about to mention it.
Eh, I might sound politically incorrect here but a video on how Post world war 2 German population was systematically brainwashed so far as that they refuse to acknowledge their past will make a good video. That brainwashing is still present, still prevalent. It is as if some form of wokeism was invented and tested in both Germanies first where people are turned to ostrichs.
@@typograf62same here
As an East German, I am positively impressed by how much you research the topics of your videos. Of course, when it comes to political assessments of German history, there are always completely contradictory points of view, especially from the various actors in Germany, but you can always make that clear and differentiate.
You feel good about your grandfather and your grandmother now? Good for you! Rock On!
Dor wo ik her kaam nöömt man Lüüd as di Dödbaddel.@@andrejmucic5003
Yeah, whats happend with or to the Nazis?
Firstly, except the National Zionists around 1900 and the American Nazi Party under G.L.Rockwell "Nazis" never existed!!!
A leftist jew used firstly this term for the members of the NSDAP in the twenties. Language is a important tool to fight political enemies or for psychological warfare. Read Richard Tedors "Hitlers Revolution". There is also a german translation. Another point: the territory of the G.D.R. or DDR is not eastern Germany. (Ostdeutschland liegt östlich der Oder-Neiße!) This is historically and geographically incorrect. So, stop this nonsense, brother. Read also Gerard Menuhins "Wahrheit sagen, Teufel jagen" (tell the truth and shame the devil). Its time to wake up. Decades ago a russian historian named Viktor Suworow published his study "Der Eisbrecher" on the so called Kriegsschuldfrage and the war against Stalins U.d.S.S.R.. Nothing what the german majority today has in their mind about the past is true or historically correct.
When all this nightmares today are over and western people survive and build new nation states, our people will have a complete other view on people like A.H. and the Third Reich. Read also Kevin B.MacDonalds "Kultur der Kritik" (Culture of Critique) and the books by Herve Ryssen about the jew. question and history. Its excellent and based primarily on jewish sources. You will be much surprised.
East or Central? Part of my family is East German Prussian Silesian. East Germany is own by Poland and occupied by Russia
@@diongibbs312 "own by Poland and occupied by Russia", interesting phrasing
"Once rockets are up
who cares where they come down.
That's not my department."
......said Wernher von Braun !
Highly recommended reading: “Stasi State or Socialist Paradise?: The German Democratic Republic and What Became of It” Bruni de la Motte
I remember talking to East German colleagues when I worked in Potsdam in 1995 (as a Dutchman) and how upset they were when the extent of Nazi participation in the GDR became known. Particularly BECAUSE of how much the GDR was promoted as the anti-Nazi state compared to the FRG.
Yeah, they were all claiming the Democratic State was somehow fascist. I love commie propaganda sometimes.
It's crazy to think anyone involved in any way would be banished from society. You would eliminate all of your most capable people for no reason. There was only ever a need to punish the leaders.
@@arostwocentsNot exactly "no reason". The GDR prided themselves on being the antithesis of Nazi Germany. There was even a separate party founded to politically reintregrate former Nazis. So to see that so many former Nazis played such a prominent role was quite disturbing.
Consider just how many Germans were involved in the NAZI party, if they didn't want anyone who had been a member, they would have had nobody! But that the soviets used the Gestapo to build their "newer better" secret police force, the Stasi was a bit shocking, but they knew the right people for the job.
"...for no reason..." and that's why we're in the mess we're in. Total lack of any sense of either ethics or morals.
Since you touched on the DDR's support of the Hepp-Kexel group, I hope you eventually do a video about how they provided clandestine support for the Revolutionary Cells and the Red Army Fraction (Baader-Meinhoff group). I've always been fascinated by their stories since watching the film "The Baader-Meinhoff Complex"
Perhaps you should also look towards the West German government, since it appears the Verfassungsschutz agent Peter Urbach supplied not just the RAF, but also the Bewegung 2. Juni with explosives weaponry, and possibly other gear.
de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Urbach
Denazification was partially forgotten when the Cold War arrived. There has been talk of Red Prussianism to refer to East Germany. It did not change as much as it seems, although nationalsocialism would not return.
Excellent work! I was aware of some of what you reported, but this was concise and factual in the limited time you had.
Thank you so much for providing us with this information in English, with subtitles as well! You're doing a greet deed to history! And also, your way of sharing the information is very easy to absorb, and holds a strong educational value! Danke, greetings from 🇲🇰 ❤🔥
Love your channel - so informative. Keep up the excellent work!
Wow, impartiality of this video is through the roof. Well done. Subscribed.
I have to say this is a wonderful channel that provides great education on an often overlooked subject of common knowledge on the Cold War.
Danke! Please keep this great and informative content coming! Another great one!
This channel provides outstanding content. Please keep making these videos. I'd be interested in the whole Wandlitz Waldsiedlung and the SED leadership even having a shop with Western goods there, obviously living against their own publicized believes
Outstanding content you say they completely neglected to mention a thoroughly relevant fact that ex Nazis particularly from the SS as well as Ultranationalist Ukrainians that had been collaborating with Germany were formed into various groups to conduct espionage against the USSR (Gehlen Organisation and as these people were fascists then the Russian or East German Anti-fascist machine guns is an apt title because the Ukrainian fascist’s were infiltrating East Germany and Russia as well and the biggest omission in this waste of data in a CZcams server is that the OUN or Ukrainian Ultranationalists the Neo-nasties are still alive and active and attempted to ethnically cleanse Eastern Ukraine from Russo-Ukrainians and they started artillery shelling of civilians in 2014, killed over 10,000 people, many children because they targeted the children so the Russian speakers couldn’t reproduce (I know that for a fact I have seen the evidence of a Ukrainian fascist stating that literally and he said the were following the ideology of SS Officer Adolf Eichmann and these Nasties are still active, still shelling civilians and you are all blaming Russia for finally defending them because Ukraine never de-nazified so Russia is determined to finish it but is not interested in reviving the USSR or the empire or anything but they are not going to just pack up and leave.
Indeed , continue what life was like in the GDR
Many documentaries around on YT. That's the stuff he translates and condenses for his own videos.
Intershop ?
Interesting history! Thanks for the video.
If I may suggest a video, one that's similar to this one, could you cover how differently East Germany and West Germany taught German history including World War II and how they compared to each other?
I enjoy your content by the way! Nice to see the GDR get covered in detail.
That was fascinating! Thank you for all the hard work you put into researching that terribly interesting topic.
This is marvelous ! I’m so excited, I must confess ! As a person with an almost lifelong ‘ fetish ‘ for both DDR and Warsaw Pact history, and iconography, paraphernalia, etc. ( including that of Hoxha’s Party of Labour, and Albania 🇦🇱 in general ), I can scarcely believe that I’ve managed to discover such a channel ! 😊
Have you been to Albania in Hoxha's time because I have...
Spent 2 weeks there in one of the few organized trips (no individual trips were allowed, no beard, no pop music, no cars,no foreign books, no nothing...)
The film footage showing the internment camps till 03:55 look like they're from post World War I.
I mean, look at the uniforms.
The German soldiers are all wearing the 'baker caps' (as we call them in Dutch), example 03:44
The British soldier in the same shot is wearing a World War I style visor cap.
In World War II, British soldiers wore berets mostly.
thank you very much for the video, very well made and the topic is fascinating
One of my favourite channels and one of a few that I watch on topics I have no interest in simply becasue how well presented they are.
Another excellent and highly interesting video. Thank you for your work 👍🏻
Dang I can't believe I'm just now finding out about this channel. My family is from East Germany so we grew up learning to speak German when we were kids so I find this stuff fascinating great work by the way you earned a new subscriber. Hope you do some more videos about the NVA military.
judging by the recent AfD polling, they weren't dealt with well enough.
If you think the AfD is even close to Nationalism, you must be a Trotskyite.
Love the conservative afd ❤️ 😍
@@NoRemorse1992Conservatives preserve the current order; the word you're looking for is "Reactionary", one with a desire to make the world even crappier than it already is.😂
@@nektariosorfanoudakis2270 I asked Google - What is the political ideology of the AfD?
Since 2015, AfD's ideology has been characterized by Islamophobia, anti-immigration, German nationalism, !!national-conservative!!, and Euroscepticism.🤣🤣🤣🤣
30th like from me. Keep making good works sir.
I've just found and subscribed to your channel Olaf.
You could do a video about the Trabant, and how it got a nation moving, a bit like the DDR's version of the VW Beetle. As someone who has an interest in East Germany, and also a Trabant owner myself, it would be very interesting addition to your channel.
Please keep up your good work on these otherwise informative and interesting posts .. cheers
Very interesting video! A topic not often talked about in all the depth that would be necessary
Very well put together, thank you
very high quality and detailed videos, keep it up
Very interesting topic. Und Danke für die Infos!
Great channel! There is a lack of content on internet when it comes to GDR most of the attention goes to the USSR maybe due to the lower standard of life, not sure. But it's a good thing that someone is taking about GDR hope to see more about the people daily life. Good luck.
Excellent video! Thank you so much.
WOW!
The paperwork you showed at the beginning of your video had a really interesting subject that I think you could make a whole video about. Listed on the document at number nine, it was about the seizure of property owned by IG farben. I know they were involved in slave labor and other shady and dark practices. I would love to see a video on this subject if you haven't done it before. Danke.
Great video, love your channel. Do you have any recommendations for channels that cover the DDR in German? Thanks.
Das ist extrem gute Arbeit! Bor danke für deine Bildungsarbeit!
If something took place "behind closed doors," it cannot be a "show trial." That is on its face contradictory.
The term you are looking for is summary justice.
You are right, it cannot be both, but I meant to say that both kinds of processes took place:
The majority of the processes took place behind closed doors. An additional 10 processes were show trials.
Well crafted coverage.
Strangely, no mention of all the solders sent to the Gulags. Quite a few came back and lived long lives too. Who knows what their Opa really did in the War.
well to be fair the gulag system (however poor the conditions may have been, especially during the course of the war) were purposed for rehabilitation which is more than you could say for west germany with +70% of their high-ranking judiciary being former nazis lmao. now as to whether or not the released soldiers were *actually* rehabilitated is another question entirely, though
He did mention that 1/3 of prisoners in Soviet camps did not survive due to the poor conditions. *correction* Those were in the Soviet Zone in East Germany.
If I'm not mistaken a former SS officer became the West German ambassador to Sweden and many others went on to have careers in law, academia and business. One such was Hanns Martin Schleyer who became the most high profile businessman in West Germany, and who was murdered by the Rote Armee Fraktion or Red Army Faction in English.
Interestingly the NDPD Bloc Party in the GDR was meant to represent former Nazis and Wehrmacht soldiers in the new socialist state and supported the end of denazification (alongside all other SED policy). Even West Germany did not have an explicit party to represent former Nazi interests.
They did it was called the CDU.
@@BibkyOh for @~?£'s sake.
They did, it was called SRP
have to say im impressed that you gave up on being monetised by having the swastica in the thumbnail to start with, and mentioned nazi in first 30s, well done, not afraid to tell some truth
I would disagree that the Americans attempt at denazification was anything approaching "thorough". Even Marshall admitted that they couldn't rightly punish everyone and still ramp up the Soviet "threat". Many former Nazis found their way into the West German government, whereas in the Soviet zone, what became the GDR, they went HAM on the Nazis.
"Stasi State or Socialist Paradise?: The German Democratic Republic and What Became of It" goes into this in depth.
Oh yes that one written by a socialist, yeah?
Did you watch the full video? He says clearly that the denazification process in all zones was not done thoroughly or correctly
@@scarybird977it was done way better on one side than the other
@@Vikdam Quite debatable
@@scarybird977 no, it's not. in 1957 77% of senior officials in the west german ministry of justice were former nazis. later president walter scheel and chancellor kurt georg kiesinger were former nazis. to act like the frg and gdr were even remotely equal in their approach to denazification is literally just ahistorical
Is there any possibility that you are considering a Patreon account? I would be very interested in beconing a paid subscriber to support you thoroughly detailed work.
On a side note this video reminded me of the cultural side of denazification, including the move from Ufa to an Allied-based film industry in western sectors to DEFA in the Soviet zone. The account of the changes to the resolution in the film, "Die Mörder sind unter uns," for me was an interesting example: the antagonist facing prison rather than execution as justice, after alterations to the script.
So much to delve deeper in in future videos 🙂
Love your work, thanks for all your videos. Great info.
Great description, a lot to learn here.
Excellent video, once again! Keep 'em comin", I'll keep watchin' :-)
Another excellent vlog. An interesting look at a subject never usually explored as DDR seemed to be in a news and moral vacuum post 1949. Interested if you're intending to do one on 'sport in the DDR'
Actually, Stasi apparently did hire former Gestapo officers.
The Stasi were literally the Gestapo, they were hired to create it.
"Corps" is pronounced "cor". The pronunciation "corps" is the one used for the word "corpse", which means "cadaver".
In german its pronounced that way
they only had 24 chairs. True fact.
Nice video. One imoortant regrettably omitted was that a substantial amount of East German Nazis were sent to work camps in the Soviet Union of which many did not return. The last prisoner returned to the GDR in 1956. This also allowedthe GDR regime to claim that therewere no Nazis in their ranks.
This seems like a good punishment!
Just a note that while I appreciate the references to Federal Republic of Germany, I feel like you just added the bit at the end with the book without exploring it. It would have been nice to know of like two people.
Most likely there were SS officers that would go on work for the East German Stasi but was kept silent.
Fascinating information! Thanks from Florida!
Damn dude, hope you didnt get that black eye after getting jumped for speaking fax about the DDR. Stay strong and keep speaking fax!
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DDR?
@@danielstan707Deutschland DR
Good video. Ivan really loved the 1957 re-issue of military awards the Bundeswehr could wear.
Direct geabonneerd, heel interessant!
Thanks for the nuanced view. In school I've learned that the DDR was basically a miserable police state, while west Germany was the free and democratic part. Now that I'm reading about the DDR I'm forced to navigate through both sides of the cold war capitalist/communist propoganda and biases.
When I was a young Export Manager in the 1970s selling British products but also buying in technology from the DDR and other Warsaw Bloc countries I never got involved in my host's national politics. I did notice that DDR citizens could live a very good life if they were able to accept some of the restrictions of their regime. A bit like life in the U.K actually. I really enjoy your videos. Might I be so bold to ask if you are a Nederlander by birth?
They formed the European Union
the official story: there were no more Nazis in East Germany
but my grandfather complained, before he had problems with the people with brown shirts, after that he had problems with the people red shirts. But the heads remained the same.
Many of the lower ranks of the former Nazis joined the Communist Party in the East. Therefore they were communists and were considered blameless.
The communist party gave the message that there were no Nazis hiding in East Germany and especially among the communists.
And so many disappeared without anyone asking.
East Germany only looked for Nazis in the West
There really is not that much difference: many former KPD members joined Nazi organizations after 1933, including the Gestapo and DAF (German Labor Front).
@@thegreatcat2095 Nazis and communists are vastly different, please don't say "horseshoe theory". Anyways, they utilized "socialism" in their name to kind of fool the people and it partly worked, they were not socialist but fascist.
Also I'd appreciate if you told me more about the KPD members joining Nazi organizations.
@@gamerf3643they were socialists. They were simply a different type of socialist that believed in racial struggle over class struggle. Just because one isn’t a Marxist doesn’t mean they aren’t socialist.
no diffrence other than the communists killing even more
@@doronaznible7298 the nazis/hitler were oppertunists. they wanted to gain power so they called themselves national socialists because socialism was very popular in the early 20th century, they needed to appeal to the working class while offering them hardly any benefits, the real beneficiaries was the ruling class. The first thing the party did after hitler was appointed by hindenburg was purging socialists/communists, social democrats and jewish people and outlawing trade unions. they used the term socialism to refer to how they interfered with the economy (which wasn't unique at all in both socialist and capitalist countries, since capitalism was in crisis at that time), but not for the interests of the working class but exactly the opposite, for the capitalists. Similarly how the (capitalist) US bailed out banks in 2008 (and any other financial crisis) and subsidizing many private companies. You're spreading a narrative that alters history by turning genocidal nazis into socialists, which just helps contempoary anti-worker policies (against your own interests) and minimize nazi atrocities
I visited briefly East-Berlin in the eighties , I was appalled by the East-German police and military uniforms ,
they had not changed them since the nazi period .
By the way I have read that in the first time of the french occupation in Germany , when a german policeman
would enter the office of a superior authority of the occupation force , they sometimes would made the
nazi salute as a pavlovian reflex ! Denazification needed !😡
so if you had to put a number on it what percentage of deNSing happened?
Hi, I enjoy your videos, but as a native English speaker, I must point out that we universally pronounce "Corps" (the military term) as "core", with the "s" being silent.
The way you pronounced it would be "corpse", as in a dead body.
fantastic video! super informative
Yes a new video of the Dutch DR. Mark Felton
"The policy was applied consequently". This should be "consistently" or "thoroughly". ("Consequently" is a synonym of "therefore")
Another great video ! German is history has some dark pages but it is never boring!
Great job . I thought it was a video to glorify the communist DDR regime but I have seen that it is very well documented and balanced.
You forgot to mention about the Berufsverbot in BRD? Otherwise very nice video.
thank you for the conclusion that you came to at the end.
the West was just as interested in employing the "good' Germans
(and was as lax in pursuing them), as the East was.
I was going to stamp my foot if you had only gone after the East.
Curious and odd that you display very old film of Germany from World War 1 when discussing the internment camps post World War 2 .. this is completely inaccurate and should be corrected .. I enjoy your variety of videos and posts but this was an obvious flaw here and somewhat annoying to watch as it has no bearing or resemblance to the internment camps in the occupied zones within Germany after WW2 .. as a Journalist I find this quite misleading .. I really think you should replace this vision .. cheers
Great video. It would be nice to deal with the subject of generals and other high-ranking military officers who were in the Wehrmacht, and then continued in the army of East Germany. I know for several generals from WW2 in the Wehrmacht , such as Von Seldlytz, von Lenski etc. which were a generals in new East Germany in NVA (after 1955, remember Germany was 10 years without army). I believe that in the case of the SS there was no such thing, but in the regular army it was.
Danke - eine Analyse, die sehr „ausgewaagt“ war.
Communists and non-communists are praising this video's accuracy, that's how you know it's legit
Can you get some documentation around the continuing existence of the Deutsche Vertiedigungs Dienst in Dachau or elsewhere?
Thank you for making video on a difficult subject. I have always been interested in how Germans saw it themselves.
But I have trouble following you. While I understand you decided not to pay extensive attention to comparison I have trouble following you in a comparison about amnesty perhaps because of German grammar and double negatives. Or maybe the use of word amnesty. What is implied by amnesty?
4:11
In the Eastern Zone there was an amnesty for former Nazi Party members. They were
4:16
allowed to be re-employed but not for internal administration, justice and police functions,
4:21
whereas this was not the case in the three Western zones where people with the necessary expertise,
4:26
except former high ranking Nazi officials that had been demonstrably involved in Nazi crimes,
4:32
were hired.
Thanks for your comment. Maybe it helps I split it in two: In the Eastern zone they took the effort to keep former Nazis out of internal administration, justice and police functions. In the Western zone, they cared less about it. Only the high ranking Nazis would not be hired.
In the GDR, Nazism was not as shameful as in the West. When they managed to get drunk with the German colleagues, they started playing Erika and panzerlied, etc. to sing, we were terrified that the police would take us away. I'm Hungarian.
Interesting, I saw a shocking tableau in the Topography of Terror museum. The people of the West German secret services were old Gestapo members until the end of the 70s.
Yeah, those Nazi guys basically made the backbone of our "security" services. From police to the "Verfassungsschutz". Seems like we have to deal with that crap again... Greetings from Germany! :)
every Nazi was welcome in the GDR if he worked for the new communist regime. Here a list of former Nazis in GDR parliament (called "Volkskammer")
de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_ehemaliger_NSDAP-Mitglieder,_die_nach_Mai_1945_politisch_t%C3%A4tig_waren#Sowjetische_Besatzungszone_und_Deutsche_Demokratische_Republik
I always thought if was much more hated considering their history with the soviets
@@guycrew3973 It was, this guy is lying. The state was literally called an anti-fascist one.
It's kind of played as a joke in the east sometimes. My grandpa used to kiddingly sing a song about wanting back kaiser Wilhelm in the GDR, which was, of course, forbidden. But no sane person herr takes nazis seriously
What do you know about how the BRD dealt with redistribution of private property after the Weende? Just returned from Thuringen and there are many beautiful properties that were certainly not owned by regular Burghers before the war...
"East" Germany was partially financed and supported by "West" Germany
As the Federal Republic of Germany never recognized the GDR - that, by the way wasn't democratic at all - and that gave the GDR the possibility to sell her products in west
Unfortunately the real existing socialism system never managed to make the GDR a model country, on the contrary
Two things that the DDR did to wash their hands for any responsibility for the past. As the video states, they rejected any attempts to restore businesses or property to any Jewish owners who might assert claims for their losses against the state. The DDR also never found it necessary to make gestures of reparations to Israel, the way West Germany did.
The DDR was also actively hostile against any returning veterans who returned to civilian life either right after the war or during periods of repatriation in the years following. While former Wehrmacht soldiers in West Germany were able to claim a measure of support from the state, East Germany continued looking at these men as criminal attackers of the Soviet Union. Not only was it official state policy not to provide any support, or at best very little, to those veterans, but to actively shame and denounce them for their service.
Why would they need to pay reparations to a state that was established three years after a war?
Hello, what about the NDPD or the policy of extending a hand to "The Little Nazis" of West Germany?
I think when it comes down to it there were too many Nazis for any side to deal with completely. In the end, however, the effects of the war that hit the civil population, the loss of an entire generation, and an utter defeat and occupation that brought about the reality of the Nazi regime brought about de-Nazification. No one after the war wanted to be associated with the genocidal regime and in time those Nazis who returned to their positions were gradually replaced by those who wanted to distance themselves from the Nazis. Even during the Nuremberg Trials Goering allegedly remarked about the Allies efforts to condemn Hitler were unnecessary because "he condemned himself." This is all my own opinion based on whatever I've heard.
Very interesting
If you do the math you'll see that the British had almost double the amount of people in their camps then the other Western allies. Obviously I could be wrong because the camps weren't all running at the same time but my calculator told me that the US and French camps were about five thousand while the British had 10,000 in per camp. I know the British were in bad financial straits after the war so that may have something to do with it. Also their sector may have had less concentration camps during the war. The Soviets definitely had the most crowded camps with about 15,000 people by average. Their sector probably had access to more camps if I remember how they were spread out during World War II. Sorry I just like using the calculator on my phone. Lol.
A really interesting video, thanks!
Very informative and well put together.
Very interesting video
There were plenty of Nazis in West Germany also. It was only during the war there were no Nazis in Germany
I’m not able to say the same, unfortunately. My grandparents lost three direct relatives in Latvia, two to execution on the sand dunes of Courland by a combined einsatzgruppen and Latvian anti-Semitic death squad, the other to an extermination camp,..not to mention a slew of distant relatives. No possibility for us to claim that Nazi occupation and rule did not equate with maltreatment and death.
Does anyone claim it was not bad?
How to get a Braunnuch in English?
To this subject I recommend the film “Labyrinth des Schweigens” where lots simply put on their tie and restart building their society’s
A minor quibble thee film with the internment camps dates from just after WW1
You are right. The footage is not correct. Thanks for making me aware!
Nice good Video about Nazis in Germany during the time of the german split
Great Video!!!
Very comprehensive and informative. Thanks.
Wow, talk about serendipity at its best! Incidentally, I spent my Sunday yesterday, watching the following documentaries:
1) A Sinister Sect: Colonia Dignidad
2) Europe's Most Dangerous Man: Otto Skorzeny in Spain
3) The Devil Next Door
4) Camp Confidential: America’s Secret Nazis
And let me tell you, everyone got away with it. It reminds me of running into a high-ranking ISIS commander in Munich of all places, during my two-day visit, back in September of 2018.
God bless every consecutive German government since 1945 😅
Ok so saying that bc there was a couple of run off the mill ex NS members the denazification in the DDR was a failure in the same way as in the BRD where actual high ranks kept their careers not only in government but also in the military and security is a big stretch.