Nikon Z9 Review
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- čas přidán 13. 06. 2024
- The Nikon Z9 is one of the best cameras we've ever tested, but is there any reason not to jump on a wait list if you're looking for the best hybrid mirrorless camera? We've been testing the Z9 with the new 2.0 firmware for a while, and we have the answers.
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0:00 - Intro
1:18 - Sample images
1:49 - Size
2:59 - EVF
4:24 - Image quality
7:33 - More sample images!
8:01 - Autofocus
9:39 - Video performance
13:40 - Should you buy it?
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I'm just relieved the whole Nikon is dead narrative has evaporated. Having invested in the OG Z6 after a long break away from photography, because i genuinely preferred it to the A7lll and Canon R on offer at the time, to be told i had invested in a dying system was stressful. The toxicity in the photography online communities, more gear focused than on actual photography itself is a mystery.
It's absolutely none sense, but you do have to be careful. Brands these days, sometimes, and particularly Canon or Nikon, tend to abandon certain bodies if they're not successful enough. I'm not seeing this happening anytime soon with this body or any recent ones, but it's a thing. These 3 brands, Sony, Canon and Nikon, they're not going to die, and it's even less likely in the camera market. The cameras, they've gotten so good in terms of image quality that, when you hear for example, you're in a disadvantage regarding DR in this or that situation, and then you see the image, it's like, it's practically the same. What do you mean by disvantage? It's actually pretty funny. On the other side, the toxicity that you mention it's real, but you shouldn't have to feel bad about your purchase, it the camera produces what you need, who cares? I prefer Sony for example, but because I started with their camera back with the first SLTs, cameras that I truly love by the way, especially the articulated screens. But, no one really cares, only extreme fanboys. So, go out, enjoy the camera and keep shooting mate. Have a good day.
Focus on making photographs, not the gearheads who spend more time arguing online over gear. Your mental state will thank you for it.
I agree. I purchased the Z6 on release day, after visiting my local camera store and holding it in my hands. I’ve never experienced any of the complaints I kept hearing about. The main thing to remember is that a lot of these CZcamsrs aren’t real photographers so they require a system to be dummy proof. That’s why I enjoy this channel, because these 2 guys aren’t dedicated fanboys. They really give you the facts from an unbiased user perspective.
I'm not so sure - Nikon seems to struggle to get products to their customers - and it's not just because it's the chip shortage. That's the biggest risk to their bottom line.
@@richrollin4867 I can honestly say that I’ve never had any issues getting products from Nikon until Covid and the chip shortage hit. I’ve shot with Nikon for almost 20 years and have purchased 10 bodies (7 dslr, 3 mirrorless) and 18 Nikon lenses, majority of which were either preordered or bought on release week without any delays. I also shoot Sony and they have suffered as well with the chip shortage, so it’s not just affecting Nikon.
"They've got great weather in Seattle."
Things only Canadians say.
Check out Seattle in the summer and you'll sing a different tune. But only in the summer.
@@genjii931 Been in WA for 29 years. Summers are even dodgy.
Z9's so good that you reviewed it thrice, wow.
The 2.0 is a new camera so that doesn't count.
When you love to use something... It show's.. ❤️🙌🏼
@@Azeemmerchant lots of love
Thank you for that great Review! The Z9 is exactly that and I can only agree after using mine for four months now - its a awesome camera. I just got back from a wedding today and checked the battery status ... 3613 Pictures taken, a few 4k60p clips, the customer looked at some images on the display and the battery has still 40% left. I don't miss my sold sony gear (A7R3 + GM lenses) for a second ...
Glad to hear this. I’ve been dying to see more wedding and portrait photographers reviews of the camera. I think we’ve had enough of wildlife examples 😂
@@flashspotlight i am angry no company is reliasing superzoom camera now i am not pro i love point and shoot but now there are hardly any new point and shoot camera
@@flashspotlight haha you‘re right! 🤣 I was also suprised … it can also handle other genres 😅 even without birds, deers or soccer ^^ If your interested i can write down a few thoughts … ?!
Jared Polin would not like to hear this. If Nikon doesn’t pay him, he don’t like it…
@@importantsomeone153 point & shoot r dead. No companies r gonna release a new PS camera anymore. Use your iPhone
I’ve been using my Z9 for few months now. I am so happy with this camera that I cannot stop bragging about it. Last wedding I shot I took 5,621 images and few 4K60p images, and the battery is still showing 30%. Wow, I can not get over this. Awesome camera.
Thank for the review; I enjoyed it.
Hi is Z9 a good choice for taking photos in black and white?
I can't wait to get my Z9!! Thanks for this great review!!
Although I can’t afford a Z9, I’m really excited for the tech that’ll trickle into the next iteration of the Z7/Z6.
Sony a1 and (former) a7IV owner, here. If it's anything like what Sony's done with those two cameras, you'll be well off with the less expensive options when those features do trickle down. Flagships are for those that want zero compromise and don't mind paying the early adopters fee. Anyone that buys the later, more affordable models will likely benefit from all the bugs / expense the early adopters went through. Good luck!
It won’t happen because of the sensor - the z9 is something new, so it’ll be a z8 or z70 … new model. I expect anyway
Yes exactly. If they could make a video focused model, like a ZV6 or something with a lower megapixel sensor, and with much less "sharpening" on the image, and modes to create cinematic footage without the harsh Z6 "over sharpening." And if they could just put the same auto-focusing style algorithms and chip design on a smaller camera, it would be a less expensive alternative to the Sony A7 III.
Stop saying I can’t and start saying I can … I don’t like when people say I can’t change your vocabulary
I just received my Z9 last week and using it for high school sports. I used to use the D5 which I was so comfortable with. The size doesn't bother me and the evf is not an issue for my type of shooting. Give me fast focus, good iso performance, and high frame rate and I'm happy. Still using it with f mount lenses and only have the 24-70 f4 Z which is super sharp. I love it. thanks for another great video
interesting point of view. how you compare the ISO performance of the Z9 with your D5?
@@DanielRodriguez-fg5ll Hi Daniel, Having only used it for a week, I can't really compare iso performance side by side but a gut feeling says its just as good, not better. I did shoot a night baseball game with iso up to 25,600 and was acceptable if you didn't need to crop. I didn't use any LR or Topaz noise reduction when making this observation . I'm still in the learning curve of Z9 but glad I purchased it, opens up so many options that are new to me like video.
@@tedk2814 25600 under lights is not acceptable. Shooting with a D4S I can keep it below 12800 shooting at acceptable shutter speeds to capture action, no problem. I do this with some regularity and it is the one that is keeping me from ordering a Z9.
@@tedk2814 thanks for the reply.
@@acceptitasitis Hi and thanks for the reply. don't take anything I say here as gospel on the Z9. For all I know, I could have accidentally turned the shutter speed up to 1/8000 and the camera pegged out the iso to try and make it. At night games in my small town, I'd say my iso is between 10,000 and 12,000 with 1/1250 to 1/1600 on the D5 with 120-300 2.8. I still have and use my D5 which I like but just wanted to get the Z9. I ordered it on the first of March and it was delivered second week in April, never expected that soon. Sounds like your D4s is one heck of a camera, take care....
I’ve had the Z9 for a couple months now. It is incredible. Having swapped from Nikon to Sony and back to Nikon I’m really glad they produced a winner!
Jason, talk to me. I almost moved to Sony (and have several friends that did or moved to the R5). I'm just curious why you switched back (Have another friend that did the same thing). Specifically, I'm interested in the things that you felt were so important as to make that expensive switch (Video?).
@@dance2jam I actually wrote an article on just that. There were three reasons and all are subjective.
1. The Sony Files: They were different than what I was used to with Nikon. The best way to explain it is with a sing word. I felt the Sony's were "clinical". I was able to achieve the end result I was looking for so really it wasn't a reason as much as a contributor.
2. Ergonomics: I have big beefy hands and when shooting the Sony all day I would walk away with blisters and sore spots on my hands. Still, I thought the buttons were well placed and very customizable.
3. Sentimentality: I started on the Nikon F100 waaaay back in the film days. Nikon was just what I was used to. Everything was familiar.
This all said I don't think anyone could go wrong with any of the big three and even Fuji if it is what you like. They all make great cameras. So, find the one that makes you want to get out and shoot or provides you with options you might not otherwise have for the type of photography you do.
Hope this helps...
If you want to read what I wrote last year it might provide some insight: www.eldridgephoto.com/articles/2021/3/1/there-and-back-again
@@jasoneldridgephotography Of course I'll read what you wrote Jason, and thanks for the response. I'm not down on any brand, but I like learning about what people feel the limitations are on any product (and realize things change). So two of my friends that switched back to Nikon: One - couldn't keep the sensor clean on the Sony cameras and did time lapse for major brands (stuff they put on their TV displays) or construction companies. Second friend: Said portraits /skin tones were never correct, shots were clinical, and if not shot at base ISO revealed wrinkles more than other brands because of the tonality. Not sure I really have that last part correct. The only digital SLR I've used was Nikon, so I was curious. Thanks for providing the link.
@@dance2jam absolutely, hopefully something in there will help.
@@dance2jam
I love my Sony A1 with the 35-150. I also have the 150-600 and a couple others.
Sony a1 i think will be the top camera for a while still. I think it is so advanced that there's no need to upgrade. The af alone is far more superior and now with the new af and video firmware update I'd say its extremely hard to beat. If your pictures are not turning out with either camera it's the photographers error. Even in most literature and real world reviews sony af among other things keep coming up on top. With unbiased reviewers ofcourse. I think the Sony is a little power house and if you need that extra grip you can put it on. You don't have to carry that extra weight especially when your hiking taking pics of wildlife and you have one of those huge lenses to capture your subjects. Plus with it's compact size it's more versatile so you can use it with most gimbals. If we're talking about serious videography that's huge plus. You dont have to spend more money for a larger gimbal plus all the add-ons you would use with a cage. This compact size would help keep the weight down which people dont realize how cumbersome these all that can be. So that compact body is perfect.The Sony a1 body alone is extremely versatile. And don't forget Sony makes sensors for most of these cameras including Nikon. So where would Nikon be without Sony tech. As for working in the dark i don't need gimmicks to get the job done. It's called muscle memory. It's not hard to memorize the buttons. Plus all the third-party lenses. Nikon to call this it's flagship i think is a huge error considering the z8 is rumored to come out.I just think people like to jump on the next new not necessarily the best thing. No loyalty imo.
I’m next in line to get mine at my local camera store! Can’t wait! They had 14 preorders before mine and they’ve all been fulfilled.
Also if you are a wildlife photographer, those new Nikon telephoto lenses are game changers! I too am waiting for a more compact, maybe Z8, Nikon camera.
Jared Polin is the “game changer” photography has been waiting for. Jared Polin has changed photography from a fundamental level!
THIS is just it, the comparisons to other manufacturers are almost all made with native glass for Sony and Canon. The new Z400 TC is a killer combo! Jared knows this. But wait there is more. Although the 800 PF is out and is fantastic..... Nikon has yet to drop a Z 300mm, Z 500mm and a Z 600mm lenses. Many feel that Nikon will not release....don't be fooled All the great Nikon F/4 and F/5.6 BIG ASS GLASS will be released in time. Stay patient my friends the wait will be worth it!
We will see about that - they haven't been out long enough (and need more evaluation) but you might be correct (still waiting on the 600mm f/4). You probably should be hoping on a D500 replacement Z camera that perhaps is 24 to 32 megapixels with some trickle down tech (and I'm sure that will be able to shot 30 fps raw). Look out HDs all over the world.
Lots of people talk about the potential for all the Z9 technology to trickle down into other cameras in the future line up. Some of it will but it is worth remembering that only a some of the technology will make it into smaller cameras. The flagship cameras are in a different league. They offer more customisation, more capable video, bigger battery, faster burst rates, more focussing choices, more programs and quick changes in set up.
There is a lot of technology in the Z9 and not all of it will make it to the Z6iii or Z7iiii / Z8.
What would your feature list actually include (in order of priority)? What could you live without if the first 4 on your list were the only bit of technology to make it?
@@Gr1ff1D0 My number 1 priority in Z7iii/Z8 is image quality (dynamic range and color depth). I know that means adding a physical shutter and that is totally okay for me. In essence it would be the equivalent mirrorless of the D850.
Next is ISO performance.
Third is autofocus tracking.
Yesterday I played with Z9 for a while. For a wildlife photographer like me, Z9 is the way to go. You don't want to change your batteries frequently on field. There is a reason why Pro bodies are with integrated grip. I don't know how you tested camera with Wildlife photography in mind, but Z9 surely has the advantage over A1 because of big body.
Great review as usual gents. Sincerely glad that Nikon have finally caught up in the mirrorless game. Shot with a D750 & D810 before switching to the Z6 in 2019 and after three weeks of struggling with the erratic focus system I went over to the dark size. Initially the EOS R now R5, which focus system is miles ahead of the Z6 & Z7. Fingers crossed for Nikon to release some new prosumer bodies later this year with some of the key Z9 features. May tempt me back.
I'm *far* from the market segment of the Z9, and I'm not Nikonian, but I do find I agree with Chris on that the Z9 has more soul as a camera than the Sony a1.
Neekon has a winner on their hands with this one. Just waiting for more third party Z-Mount glass. Thanks Dr Drake and Chris!
Neekon? Did you think the Knight of Ni sacrificed his limbs so you can put mud on the holy Nikon's name?
Difficult until Nikon opens the mount .
Specs. This is the biggest advantage of sony system. Any other drawback will be overcome in the next iteration , but you can't beat the 3rd party support . All my lenses are currently 3rd party for my A7iii.
Viltrox offer great prime lenses for the money…now Nikon offer new low price zoom with the first 28-75mm f2.8.
Which lenses do you want?
Knee-Con.
@@trym2121 That's how it's pronounced in Japan & most of the Western world. But what would the Japanese know?
Thanks for not leaving us with a pre-production review from you guys for the Z9 and R3.
Excellent review. I agree with Chris, the Z9 is a big mutha and I'm no spring chicken, with arthritic wrists (do chickens have wrists?). So I was disappointed when it became apparent that the Z9 would c/w integrated vertical grip: I'd gotten used to the lightness and compactness of my Z6s. But, boy, what a joy the Z9 has turned out to be! I've just had it for 5 weeks and a day with 2.0.
I've been shooting Nikon cameras since I bought my first FM, around 1980 and never splurged for a "flagship." I think it's safe to say I hit the jackpot with this camera, or should I say Nikon did?
Yes, as a Final Cut user, I'm hoping Apple will support N-RAW but, as Jordan says, the internal 8K H-265 10-bit is really quite lovely -- certainly will be my most-used setting for video.
One thing NO ONE mentions is the DX mode and how good it is on this camera. Unlike the D850 what you see in the view finder is exact what will be captured by the sensor (like a Nikon D500) and onto the memory card. No having to make sure the frame is framed within a small box/guides in the center of the screen and loosing frames because you have to be worried if the parts of the image you need in the frame are etc.. The images are easily on par with the Nikon D500 for those who need to replace their D500. Its also cool how you can use your FF glass and shoot in FX mode nd then put on your DX glass change the image capture mode to DX and shoot at the crop (and 21MP). Nikon nailed the DX mode in this camera as good as they nailed the video features.
You guys do great work! You have the reviews that I trust the most!
Finally oversampled 4k/60 in a high res body.
Sitting here in Stillwater, Oklahoma thinking its a small world. Nice shirt!!
Thanks for your considerable efforts and impressions / comparisons.
Thanks guys,
Was really waiting for this one.
Even though I'm not in the target group for this one, it's a great proof of work from Nikon.
It is an awesome looking camera! I'm very much looking forward to seeing some of these features move down to future cheaper and smaller Z cameras. In my case especially those video features!
Way to go Nikon!! I always had faith in them!! Been using their cameras for quite some time now , including the Z9, and I’ve been telling people that Nikon Z is a beautiful and ergonomically perfect camera !
No camera is perfect (and I love my Z9) but, as good as the ergonomics are on the Z9, there are issues for some. I don't have a problem with the memory card door, but a lot of people do. I have a problem with the Fn 1, Fn2, Fn 3 buttons feeling awkward in location (my hand size) and uncomfortable if you are holding the camera horizontally all day to reach some of them without straining your hand. Vertically, only the Fn 3 button is really reachable. Then there is the AF/area mode button on the bottom left of the camera being in a difficult place (yes, I know you can reprogram that function many places). My fingers also have issues finding the EC button and more often hit the ISO button. The rubber covers over the ports are also grouped and not individualized (exposing several to elements if uncovered instead of one). There is no longer a meter mode button (yes, again you can use the i menu or program it to a button (like the microphone memo button). Listen, I could be labelled a Nikon fan boy (although I'm not), but ergonomically perfect. No Sir. Not for me.
@@dance2jam yes I agree with you in many points. sometimes hand size could be a factor. You have many valid points !! I own Sony , canon and Nikon. Like you said , there is no perfect camera , but to me , this is one is at the top of my list.
@@FamilyofTech And on that note (although I do not own a mirrorless Sony or Canon), I'm inclined to agree!
As always a great review!
I really appreciate your review! You have definitely helped steer me in the right direction for what I need. Thank you!
Fantastic. I'm just still waiting on mine!
I’ve had mine for a few weeks now and had a chance to work it pretty hard after the 2.0 update and I absolutely love it. Since this is my first mirrorless I love the ergonomics of it and I’m also not bothered by the EVF since I play back images through the screen. Chimping on the back is way easier than holding the camera up to use the EVF and I’ve trusted the autofocus after the first five frames so I know if the exposure is good in the EVF the autofocus is nailed if it makes sense even at 60fps in the viewfinder. I absolutely love this camera!
Currently shooting a major volleyball event with two Z9s with 2.0 firmware.
I've had then Z9 since first shipment on Dec 23rd. The 2.0 firmware really makes a difference and makes this the camera I had hoped I was buying. the 120hz screen update ... I forgot I had enabled it until I realized how much more comfortable the viewfinder was. The AF is much much stickier and agressuve about finding eyes, even when the face is very small in the frame and the new group settings are really making a difference for me. Previously the Z9 struggled so much shooting through the net that I had to workout a special, lanor intensive technique to get good results.
Now the Z9 is way better at ignoring the net (not perfect, but so much better I mostly don't have to worry about it - whereas before ... well, it was a big issue)
This was my first day with the new firmware, but the camera really had me smiling!
All I know is how much more I want a Z9 now more than ever
Thanks guys, great review.
I just wish the Z9 was available without the massive waiting list!
The Z9 truely is a special camera. I have only had it for a little over 4 weeks so I am still discovering lots of details and learning. Every time I use it, the camera shows me how wonderful it can be. I like the form factor especially when I use it with a long prime lens on a gimbal (you need the weight to balance the longer lenses properly).
There are some strange little habits it has that I am discovering and working around. It can for example, decide to refuse to focus on a bird on a branch, especially small rosellas, if it cannot pick up the eyes when the bird looks directly at you. It is however happy to focus on the same bird when it is partially obscured in a roof gutter. It snaps back into action the moment the bird starts to fly- so manual focus has to be called on at awkward moments.
That said the rest of the time it does an amazing job finding subjects and gaining eye focus faster than I can even locate the eye looking through the viewfinder. I like being able to trust the camera to focus and concentrate on expression, details, composition/framing, background set up and anticipating action. I have so many choices now when I look at the results of a quick burst.
As you say, if you are a Nikon shooter and can raise the capital, this is a no brainer. The Z6ii is also now a lot easier to love as a companion camera with an alternate lens, using up very little space in the bag, for the times you see something which needs an alternate set up immediately. The Z9 is big and I love the stability and flexibility that provides. The benefits of the large body, large battery and control system that a fully worked out professional and rugged camera provides is not to be underestimated.
Spent a good week testing the Z9 and didn't know that it has waveform monitor!
This camera is a killer.
The NRAW graded shot and the H.265 footage looked really nice in 8.3K on the Z9
Truly great review !
An exciting product. Congratulations Nikon! I too want the prosumer version of the Z9: I thoroughly enjoyed the D700 & D800. Perhaps Nikon can grab me for a Z8 with a lot of lens purchases over the coming years? I hope so!
What happened to the radial test pattern image in "High Efficiency *" mode? It's split across the middle like there was a scan problem (6:35).
Wow that long exposure is stunning. So smooth. 👍👍👍
Thx for the video! I'm still waiting for my Z9 to be delivered, so hopefully it will be shipped soon! Can you please tell me what tripod you were using that you when you were doing long exposure shots? Thx!
I use a 500 f/4 a lot, been using DSLR’s since 2004, every single one of them with a grip. I have small hands, I hate tiny cameras. Love my Z9. Give me a big heavy camera, every day, all day. And I’m old too, still want a big camera.
Absolutely love my Z9 (only had it for 2.5 weeks as of this very moment). I also have the Z7ii and used to use a D850 with the add-on battery / control unit. That was a great DSLR but I prefer the feel of the Z9, it just feels right in the hands. I have never used a higher resolution EVF so am d not concerned by the fact that there may be sharper ones out there, I certainly do not find the Z9's elf of any concern and am more interested in the output user experience this unit gives, It's build quality is absolutely second to none and I see this camera being with me for many, many years.
Could you please comment on the comparison of AF performance between the Z9 and Z7ii?
@@pm-ec1fc There are many, many "professional" reviewers here on CZcams that can do far more in depth detailed reviews of the AF of both cameras. However, my personal experience is that for many every day photographic jobs the 7ii is superb, however, I was very frustrated with the speed and tracking when photographing birds in flight especially, and other aspects of wildlife photography when time and accuracy mattered. Even with Z9 firmware 1 I immediately felt the difference and got far more keepers than I ever did with the 7ii. I have yet to attend an airshow since getting the 9 but when I used the 7ii to photograph fast flypasts in burst mode I found the EVF couldn't keep up with the motion of the passing aircraft which led to missed shots. I am looking forward to trying the 9 out in this role as the season is about to start. I carried out a portrait shoot in a dark studio with strobe lights to nights ago. Using the Z9 every shot was perfectly in focus (using the eye) whereas in similar shoots with the 7ii I had had trouble with getting the eye focus to lock on under the modelling light. Just some personal observations. As I said, there are numerous reviews out there which will go into much more detailed information.
@@pm-ec1fc I do not own the Z7, but I can theoretically answer this question. The Z9's processing engine is 10x faster than the Z7ii's. That allows it to perform 120 auto exposure and autofocus calculations per second. That said, you need a lens that can keep up with that performance (i.e. to help the OSPDAF - on sensor phase detect AF system work better - wider aperature / more light / faster focus motors). As @Brian Dandridge mentioned, he wanted to photograph BIF (fast moving objects) and quick, accurate AF is obviously important. The engine in the Z9 is just that much faster than the duel engines in the Z7ii.
@@pm-ec1fc There is no comparison. I have the Z7ii and its not even close
Thank you for the balanced and fair review. I'd hate to curse you to a future of 35mm only reviews. LOL. Balanced and fair. Appreciate it when so many YT channels are anti-Nikon.
Great to see nikon back with a vengeance. Competition is great for whatever brand you shoot with. Future cameras will be amazing and will probably just boil down to the system you are already invested in
Don’t forget about the elephant in the room, Jared Polin!
Prefer sensible reviews
The video doesn't state which camera was used at the 14:40 mark, but the crispness in the detail of Chris' hair (and lint thread on his jacket collar) is truly impressive.
It’s wild seeing so many Z9 owners in the comments, obviously very happy. It is equally wild seeing such an overwhelmingly positive Nikon video after the flak the Z system has received since launch. I have an original Z6 and was blown away by its high-res 3.69M dot viewfinder, because the EVFs that I used before it were awful for manual focus, and often on cameras with unreliable autofocus (can you tell I haven’t used a Sony newer than the A7II?). To me, the Z6 already offered significantly better performance and much cleaner image quality than the 5-10 year old I was using before it, so I was very satisfied with the Z6 for my use. I think it’s nice to see Nikon giving a camera that has the beautiful image quality and great ergonomics that I have been enjoying all this time, but offers high level features and has the capability to do everything that other people need.
Waiting for an update to the Z6 and Z7, hoping for a Z8 maybe? A lighter and more compact z9 without the grip.
Well you guys gave the z9 a 94% Gold so its pretty obvious. Had mine since Dec and love it.
Not sure why people would think the A1 is even competitive with the Nikon z9. The A1 is $1000 more to begin with, to get the battery grip is a few hundreds more, also Sony's choice to use a CFexpress card type a in the Sony A1 is also mysterious. A1 and Z9 photo capabilities are about the same but yet Z9 has much better video specs.
I love my Sony A1 with the 35-150. I also have the 150-600 and a couple others.
Sony a1 i think will be the top camera for a while still. I think it is so advanced that there's no need to upgrade. The af alone is far more superior and now with the new af and video firmware update I'd say its extremely hard to beat. If your pictures are not turning out with either camera it's the photographers error. Even in most literature and real world reviews sony af among other things keep coming up on top. With unbiased reviewers ofcourse. I think the Sony is a little power house and if you need that extra grip you can put it on. You don't have to carry that extra weight especially when your hiking taking pics of wildlife and you have one of those huge lenses to capture your subjects. Plus with it's compact size it's more versatile so you can use it with most gimbals. If we're talking about serious videography that's huge plus. You dont have to spend more money for a larger gimbal plus all the add-ons you would use with a cage. This compact size would help keep the weight down which people dont realize how cumbersome these all that can be. So that compact body is perfect.The Sony a1 body alone is extremely versatile. And don't forget Sony makes sensors for most of these cameras including Nikon. So where would Nikon be without Sony tech. As for working in the dark i don't need gimmicks to get the job done. It's called muscle memory. It's not hard to memorize the buttons. Plus all the third-party lenses. Nikon to call this it's flagship i think is a huge error considering the z8 is rumored to come out.I just think people like to jump on the next new not necessarily the best thing. No loyalty imo.
@@xr3217 I don't think u have anything relevant to say except for your anecdotal experience, which is fine - you enjoy your a1. You didn't refute anything from the original post. The fact is that z9, being a flagship, is still $1000 less, and Nikon's native lens lineup is nothing to sneer at.
Certainly sounds like Nikon have got a winner.
Nice review !!! Thanks
I am so glad I am in a good situation. I didn’t have to wait for nikon to come out with mirrorless that hold their own. Just getting into photography 3 years ago and ready to move mirrorless and full frame. Cant wait to order one.
I retired from shooting MX in 2008/09 just before the launch of the D3… so I’m coming back to shooting with a Z9 from a D2X. Needless to say but the EVF looks incredible to me lol and the size is a touch smaller than I’m used to… so yeah, I love this body, it’s soooo nice to have a full frame sensor and the 45 mp ability to crop much of the image and still have quality is incredible.
Excellent!. The only thing missing is the review of the lens options for Sony A1 vs Nikon Z9. For both landscape and wildlife perspectives. This would really help many making that decision, including me! Keep up the good work. Really appreciate what you are doing. 👍👍
Sony Wins in that regard, with its 14mm 1.8, and Pixel shift which can produce for 200mp shots for stunning architecture. Plus carrying it is going to be a helluva lot easier on your back if you are packing light to get to certain spots
I love my Sony A1 with the 35-150. I also have the 150-600 and a couple others.
Sony a1 i think will be the top camera for a while still. I think it is so advanced that there's no need to upgrade. The af alone is far more superior and now with the new af and video firmware update I'd say its extremely hard to beat. If your pictures are not turning out with either camera it's the photographers error. Even in most literature and real world reviews sony af among other things keep coming up on top. With unbiased reviewers ofcourse. I think the Sony is a little power house and if you need that extra grip you can put it on. You don't have to carry that extra weight especially when your hiking taking pics of wildlife and you have one of those huge lenses to capture your subjects. Plus with it's compact size it's more versatile so you can use it with most gimbals. If we're talking about serious videography that's huge plus. You dont have to spend more money for a larger gimbal plus all the add-ons you would use with a cage. This compact size would help keep the weight down which people dont realize how cumbersome these all that can be. So that compact body is perfect.The Sony a1 body alone is extremely versatile. And don't forget Sony makes sensors for most of these cameras including Nikon. So where would Nikon be without Sony tech. As for working in the dark i don't need gimmicks to get the job done. It's called muscle memory. It's not hard to memorize the buttons. Plus all the third-party lenses. Nikon to call this it's flagship i think is a huge error considering the z8 is rumored to come out.I just think people like to jump on the next new not necessarily the best thing. No loyalty imo.
You guys are the best ❤️
Felt this was a honest, fair, overview and review. Have shot with the Z9 for 4 months (sports/action/wildlife and some portraits) - not Astro yet. Elephant in the Room first: EVF - agree with Chris, but really not an issue most 99 percent of the time. Weight: Heavy (I'm on a tripod a lot), but that said, the D850 with D5 battery and vertical grip was the actually heavier except when you add the FTZii adapter on the Z9 and then they are both 1400 grams (approx.). D850 DR at low ISO (better). Shooting experience: Z9 hands down. Memory Card door (some many complaints at first) - not an issue. Hold the camera in your left palm, push the switch back and down with right thumb. Quick and easy for me. Menus: Good, but could be better. Features: Packed (could have more - i.e. not just a count up timer for long exposures, but image update). As a Nikon shooter, I was waiting for a sports/wildlife/action camera that was in the family (rather than move to Sony/Canon and have to purchase new glass). The Z9 was that camera and I haven't put it down since. P.S. I think it would have been more inclusive if you had covered use of flash and the Z9 as well.
I was wondering why you compare it to the now ancient S1H but then I checked its release year (2019). Time really flows strangely in a pandemic.
Can't wait for mine. Waiting 24 days through NPS. Hopefully sooner than later.
Excited for a Z9II with leaps in DR...
I thought that the larger size and weight of the Z9 would be bothersome, especially carrying it over a long day, however, it practice, it just hasn't been as big of an issue as I thought it would be. That being said, all of my current gear bags are designed for a smaller body, which means I can carry one less lens in my normal travel bag. The other issue with the larger format is that my gimbal is over taxed with anything but a shorter focal length prime lens, which reduces my options. The evf res hasn't been much of an issue as I was used to the lower resolution of the previous Z cameras, and I absolutely love the starlight mode for astro. It isn't a perfect camera, but may be the goldilocks of the R3/A1/Z9 trio available at present.
a1 definitely easier on gimbals.
Nice job guys Thank you good performance Beautiful explanation
0:50 I love the frame. So simple and calm. Would make for a nice picture
Here I am in a waiting list to get my hands on to one, still going to be using F mount glass since I've got almost 2 dozen lenses but still thinking the 800 f/6.3 would be a great lens to add to the stable, even though there's no more space in the already giant pelican case. For what it is the EVF resolution not being optimal to review pictures isn't an issue, that's what the larger screen is for.
Outstanding review....you do a great job with fly fishing too ;) all round top notch ...!!
I appreciate all the time y’all put into these reviews. It would be cool if you tested the autofocus in these cameras in situations that are actually challenging and that professionals regularly encounter. Would love to see a test where a person is dancing in a dimly lit room. That would cover wedding photography and photo journalism.
go to their iNSTAGRAM pages to see results. CZcams does not pay well to spend oddles of time creating these niche style videos.
@@bigboi36 they sure spend a lot of time on them though… My point would be to do one AF test that was actually challenging for a camera in 2022 instead of just pictures of random landscapes and the occasional bird walking by.
@@bigboi36, CZcams actually pays better for longer videos.
Agreed, Jesse. A lot of Z9 prospects are people who shoot birds in flight. And Nikon's AF has a very poor reputation in that application. I would have liked to have seen if the Z9 is up to the game.
Does the Canon R5 & R5c not exist? How could this pair not be mentioned, especially the R5c. Bizarre.
Why would those two be mentioned alongside the A1 and Z9?
@@livejames9374 Why would they not? High resolution, 8K, RAW internal video in both FF & APSC, high rez EVF, waveforms, I could go on, but it’s obvious why they should have been mentioned.
What kind of tripod are they using in this video, is that a Leofoto Urban series? If so, any ideas on which size?
WOW! Jordan almost never gives such a high rating on any camera so this is special!
For the EVF... How is the brightness, since Nikon says that it is much brighter than others?
Does anybody know if it is still only 4:2:0 and long GOP in h265 or is there a 4:2:2 and all intra option as well with that update?
I used to just go around with a larger photography bag, but these days a lot of the times I run-and-gun it with a smaller bag. It's really nice to have the Sony camera body slip into the smaller divider that I have, making room for another lens to go in that bag when I need to make a decision about which lenses to carry with me. In crowded situations I can easily handhold the camera, no tripod or monopod to get in the way, even when shooting video for a long time. It's funny that people who have known me for a long time and have actually been interviewed by me with MY camera, weren't able to tell if I was taking stills or doing video, thrown off by the fact that I was just holding the camera in my hands, looking through the EVF.
ah sure would be nice to see a comparison of the Z9 and the Canon R5 and 3. don't ya think ey?
I also thought it odd that they didn’t even so much as hint at canon, but dropped Sony comps throughout and even Panasonic. Maybe they think canon doesn’t have an equivalent body to match the others? Or the Nikon money truck only comes if they pretend canon doesn’t exist lol who knows
Hello. congratulations for the video. Does the nikon z9 have ibis better than the nikon z6ii?
IMO, the short answer is the Z9 overall image stabilization (lets call that IS, meaning all of the various forms of image stabilization, i.e., IBIS, lens VR, electronic VR, and combinations thereof) is far superior the Z6II for both stills and video. There is nuance. For example, the Z9 doesn't have to deal with shutter shake in burst modes. However you could use the Z6II in electronic shutter mode and improve IS a bit if you can live with the negative effects of the Z6II's inferior sensor for electronic shutter. The Z9 is far, far superior IS for video. Many video modes in the Z9 does not even let you use electronic VR, and you will not miss it. The Z6II's electronic VR tends to be very warpy, and while it is an available option I would almost always regret using it because it is very difficult to fix the warp in post. I do feel, however, the latest Z6II firmware did make it better than it was at launch. There is a lot more to say here, but the short answer is the Z9 IS is far superior to the Z6II IS.
Sounds like Nikon has fully arrived on the mirrorless scene and the Z9 is the "best hybrid camera" on the market - Gerald Undone has said so, and he is definitely not a Nikon guy and now DPReview has said so and they traditionally have not been Nikon people.
I am glad that I have stuck it out with Nikon - I thought it would pay off and it has. Something that is generally not mentioned much is that the Z glass is excellent and as a complete line is higher quality than the competition - they also have more lenses with less focus breathing than the competition.
When they release the Z6III and/or the Z8 - I will be getting them - both if they both exist - the Z9 is just too big for my style of shooting but if it were not I would buy it in a second. Since I think that the Z6III and/or Z8 will be out soon (in the next 12 months) I can easily get by with my Z6II's until then - they are already really great cameras when you know how to use them.
Thanks for the video and the honesty.
Love the green shirt Chris!
Hi Chris,
What brand and type of camera bag did you use in this video review?
Thanks to you both for your real world take on the equipment we all use or want to use. I am completely won over by the Z9's technology. I put my hands on one this morning. It feels great---but way to big and heavy for my use. Compared to the D850 and 70-200---still doesn't matter. I too would like to see the Z9s tech filter down to a more 'compact' version. There will be compromises--hopefully not with the AF system and 'auto' sensor shield. Waiting impatiently.
Hope you get your wish. I also thought it felt heavy but I own the D850 (with vertical grip and D5 battery) because I shoot sports, action and wildlife. I put the D850 on a scale and the Z9. Z9 was not only a bit lighter, but more compact. Once you added the FTZii adapter, they were virtually the same weight at 1430 grams. Again, the Z9 felt more compact/stout and a bit easier to hold. If you don't shoot with the D5 battery and vertical grip, you're correct. D850 lighter and better DR all day long (esp. at lower ISO).
no it's not. I have a d850 and a d4s, the d4s is way easier to carry around. you can't feel it in your hands. you don't have to grip it at all. I like the feel of all D8x0 bodies but the pro cameras have that extra ergonomic feel.
I guess I need to clarify something. My point is that the Z9 is just too big and heavy for me. I love my Z6 with Z glass. 20.7 oz and 5"x4" (approx) compared to the Z9 47.3 oz and 6"x6" approx. And yes, one has an integrated grip and the other does not. So, I used the D850 as a Pro comparison without the grip as well. 32.3 oz and 6"x5". The Z9 is still almost 50% heavier and almost the same size. I'm hoping that the new Z camera will be somewhere between the Z6 and D850 in weight. And FWIW..if you add the FTZ to the D850, the weight will still be 10 oz less than the Z9. And yes, the Pro cameras with grip have a great feel...but that is not my priority. My comments are not in anyway to detract from the Z9 or other pro cameras with a grip...just a statement of opinion and fact regarding the bulk and weight. I want the Z9 tech..but not with the weight and bulk. I'll wait.
@@Juventinos Can't argue with that. I always wanted a D4S, but mirrorless was already on it's way. So, it didn't make sense for me to put money there. Thanks for the thoughts.
Integrated vertical grips are fantastic. Every camera I've ever had for 20+ years has had some annoying intermittent connection problem with attachable ones. I really need the 40MP X-H2 to have an integrated grip or I can see a Z9 in my future. You don't really want to be recording any kind of 8K on a small battery anyway, so just drop the pretense. Also, Fujifilm usually makes the vertical grip mandatory anyway since they insist on putting the headphone jack on it, and possibly a full size HDMI port this time.
@Jason Eldridge
I love my Sony A1 with the 35-150. I also have the 150-600 and a couple others.
Sony a1 i think will be the top camera for a while still. I think it is so advanced that there's no need to upgrade. The af alone is far more superior and now with the new af and video firmware update I'd say its extremely hard to beat. If your pictures are not turning out with either camera it's the photographers error. Even in most literature and real world reviews sony af among other things keep coming up on top. With unbiased reviewers ofcourse. I think the Sony is a little power house and if you need that extra grip you can put it on. You don't have to carry that extra weight especially when your hiking taking pics of wildlife and you have one of those huge lenses to capture your subjects. Plus with it's compact size it's more versatile so you can use it with most gimbals. If we're talking about serious videography that's huge plus. You dont have to spend more money for a larger gimbal plus all the add-ons you would use with a cage. This compact size would help keep the weight down which people dont realize how cumbersome these all that can be. So that compact body is perfect.The Sony a1 body alone is extremely versatile. And don't forget Sony makes sensors for most of these cameras including Nikon. So where would Nikon be without Sony tech. As for working in the dark i don't need gimmicks to get the job done. It's called muscle memory. It's not hard to memorize the buttons. Plus all the third-party lenses. Nikon to call this it's flagship i think is a huge error considering the z8 is rumored to come out.I just think people like to jump on the next new not necessarily the best thing. No loyalty imo.
Can I save still images from a video file internally ? Maybe raw too ?
Super! Thanks.
What these bodies need are magnetic hood attachments to help you see the rear screen. I bought a black lupe to do just this but need to find tape that won't leave residue.
The size is an issue… until, after a while, I went back to my Z7ii… I found it so small, and less stable in my hands… when I use longer lenses, the extra size help the balance as it feels so good in hands… after that… not sure yet if the size is an issue, but when traveling?
this microphone is horrible, please hide it. The content is amazing, as usual. Love you guys!
Probanly your channels best video according to me.🥺🙂😊
Same here, size was too big when I got the chance to use it. Until they come out with a smaller one I will continue to use the Z7II for landscapes and Sony's A7IV for sports and wildlife. Hoping to get down to one system some day. Would go A1 which I have used for a month but the Nikon colors are warmer and better
Chris I spoke with Nikon and their working on the perfect camera for you. Its a Z9 Light!!!
Debating about the Z9. The camera geek in my says awesome but the photographer in me says this is too much camera for what I need and I should wait but the problem with waiting is I won't be buying a Nikon with the same style of body as the Z7 II. I hate the ergonomics of that camera, with a passion and really hope that Nikon make an updated version feel a little more like the D850.
I shot my daughter's hockey game last night with the Z9 on a 70-200f2.8S and my Z7ii on my 300mmPF. The Z9 made the Z7ii feel and look like a relic. There is no comparison. The Z9 just lies in my hand beautifully and it functions amazing. The AF, the tracking, the customisability is just on a another level. I can't see using my Z7ii for anything else but landscape currently. The Z9 just feels and works so much better. I think the ergonomics of the Z9 will grow on you, especially if you put big glass on it.
Fun Fact those who are waiting for Z7III/Z8 will need to another 6/8 months after Nikon released those bodies.
@14:52 SOLD! I want this camera.
Great Video 👍👍
Z9 is a fabulous camera. It's impossible to get a copy but it's fantastic. But the first time I held it, I realized why I moved away from DSLR's. (I know it's mirrorless). For me walking the woods and setting up for wildlife adventures and backpacking, the A1 is just better for me.
Will those new camera's use an older Nikon ED AF Nikkor 80-200mm lens 1:2.8. Which I got back in the late 90's used with 35mm stuff. It's a good quality fast lens that I got back in the day, hate to get rid of it.
Excellent camera review, guys. I enjoy all your videos. The z9 skin tones look bad to me. Jordan’s skin looks a little too red in his talking headshots. I’m sure it can be fixed in post or use the Eterna lut.
Question for Jordan: is there audible confirmation of roll/cut in video mode?
Waiting for the Z6 III with internal N Log 4k@60 oversampled and 4k@120 binned (Possibly 6K raw?), cmon Nikon make me buy into the Z system again, I miss it terribly!
Not mentioning lenses when comparing systems?
As for pro video features, WHY doesn’t it have a shutter angle setting (so you can leave it safely locked at 180, and so you don’t have to make an extra change when you switch frame rates) and WHY doesn’t it allow me to turn off both the monitor and EVF when using an external monitor (to save battery life)?
But can they deliver it into stores.....
We have 3 of them and they are great, used everyday battery life is fantastic! Best Nikon pro product for many years.
Z9 tech sounds good for future tech camera . i also like a small camera that's why I grabbed an Sony A7C, the EVF and the flip screen sucks on the A7C, I would love a bigger EVF and a tilt screen like the S1H on the A7C and more knobs . So if there are headquarters from major Company like Nikon or Canon reading DPReview subscribers comments, that have a minute to call Sony to do what's necessary on a A7C MKII, thanks
After the D5, i just waited for a mirrorless replacement,,, a long wait so i got the Z6 to join my D850, at first,, well not love at first snap but i was growing. Soon the D850 was nr2. Then roomers started to been heard, Z9 a mirrorless monster, hell yeah :) And i waited and waited, then one day the fist announcement, it is true, it will come . God damn i was fast on the pre-order as soon it was possible. Then a new era of waiting and waiting. But one day in January i had a call, -you will have it next week, happiness was a fact. I shoot a lot of model and portray, it works more than perfect, i shoot wildlife as my relaxing hobby (but im on a new wait for the 800pf) and it works more than fantastic. At my other work (outside my own company) in the Air Force, i just wait for some time up in the blue for the hardcore test with Bigfoot (Z9) and the 24-120 that i think is a superb lens up there, ok it will be horrible when the G starts to press the arms down. So my though about the Z9, well total love and if you need a monster, just get it :)
I walked the exact same path and also agree 100% with you