Jim Cornette Reviews Jay White and Juice Robinson's Confrontation With FTR on AEW Dynamite
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- čas přidán 6. 06. 2023
- From Episode 485 of the Jim Cornette Experience
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Gin and Juice is my new favorite nickname. Partly because it is unexpected from Jim
I have better WHITE JUICE
@I Think About Things he is? I thought he hated most things rap. He warmed up to Max Caster, but I thought that was an exception.
He very openly hates rap. It's probably the one big thing I disagree with Jim on.
I like Juice. He yells funny sh*t during his matches and makes really funny faces. He’s not a bad wrestler either
I cracked up when he yelled "YOU GET UP YOU PIECE OF SHIT" at Dax.
I'm starting to like him he kinda reminds me of Moondog Rex
I know they're pushing Jay as the guy and Juice is supposed to be his flunkey, but Juice is showing us he's out shining Jay.
@@TheMrAlgoh Juice has more charisma his work isn't bad either Jay White his work looks OK just no mmmppphhh to him though besides that.
@@leemoore8446 I know a lot of Cornette listeners scoff at hearing the words “New Japan”, but Jay’s promos over there were pretty damn good. I do agree though that they should have ditched the Bullet Club thing and either went on their own or started a new faction once they joined AEW. As a wrestling fan I’m hoping this new show with Punk/FTR/Joe/Jay/Juice and other actual talented wrestlers who want to work a wrestling show gives them room to breathe. And they can keep the gymnastics on Wednesday.
Gin and Juice makes me laugh every time lol
It's funny cause that's Private Party's tag team finish name
I think once Jay has a ppv match with a worthwhile opponent (I.E. potential Punk feud), Jim will fully get him.
Nah Jay White just don’t feel like a star if anything he’s being outshined currently by Juice Robison
He's nothing special though. He uses like 15 wrestlers finishers as his normal move set, has nothing of a commanding voice. Sounds weak, looks weak, IS weak, just fortunately for him the majority of his opponents are the size of middle schoolers.
@@biggains1 you're delusional
@@biggains1never understood the hype with him even in New Japan. Osprey has more star quality as Top Gaijin.
Jay is making the most of what his getting given with tv time.
Really want Big Bill in Bullet club gold. He has the look and would be a perfect 3rd for them. Doesn’t have to talk just stand there and be big
thats a pretty pog idea
Well he has had his ass kicked by pockets and every other lil guy so why would he be intimidating
Not Big Gold Bill 😭
Big Bill as the AEW equivalent of Bad Luck Fale? I'm sold on that!
Jay would be like Devitt(Jay did mention he had spoken to Devitt/Balor before so there's that)
Juice would be like Karl Anderson but a bit more over the top.
Who would be able to be like Tama Tonga though?
Agreed, Big Bill should join. Also CM Punk in a Bash at the Beach moment
Punk wants to work with jay white and i think thats just what he needs to get going in AEW not what ever the fuck they been doing with him
I’d pay for a Punk vs Jay White match
The problem is, most Americans don’t know who Jay White or The Bullet Club is. AEW need to do a better job of introducing these guys properly so the audience can get invested in them so they’re not like who the hell is this guy and why should I care about him?
@@johnadams9274 my issue is Punk vs Jay SOUNDS good, but...who wins that fued? Jay just got there a week and a half ago, and Punk is just returning after Brawl Out, so don't they both need signature wins?
@@markcampbell2702 Well we got it, not a 1 on 1 but Juice,FTR and Samoa Joe are good additions to it
@@villian99918 I like it. I hope to see possibly a future PPV match with this…..maybe Full Gear 2023. Fingers crossed that Collision will give us wrestling fans (not the modern garbage) a reason to watch Saturday nights
Brian Last: "Heels shouldn't touch the announcers"
1997 DX: "Hold our beer and pills":...
Love how Jim keeps calling Jay White another British guy but he’s from New Zealand 😂
Once again, Jim comes up with an angle off the top of his head that's better than what they did
Totally agree
With the possibilty of having a small CM Punk vs Jay White feud, I hope that can give Jay the opportunity to show how good he really is
Yeah they gonna beat him tonight first.😂😂😂
Jay is extremely good and I haven't seen much of that in his AEW run so far. Tony has to be the one to blame, because he did great in NJPW and ROH.
@@TriforceElder08 nope! If it ain’t the EVPs nobody cares
😂😂😂 it's funny how AEW marks forget CM Punk age like wtf he's not gonna move the same somebody tell him and the Hardy Boyz to retire they have destroyed their own legacy
He had a great booker in NJPW. The booker for AEW absolutely sucks
Juice is great. He's over the top but not too goofy, he looks like a Pekingese and he has a very unique screechy voice.
I swear, Juice reminds me of Jack Black.
he really reminds me of Brian Pillman during his Loose Cannon gimmick
@@karma_coin Juice is outshining Jay, he might get more over than him.
Juice Robinson has Hornswoggles face he's essentially just a Giant Hornswoggle.
Im glad Juice is doing well. When he came up in NXT but you could tell he needed work but had a ton of potential and then he got released.
Side note juice is tapping Toni storm so he's definitely doing a few things right 😂😂😂
Jim must hate accents, “sounds like every UK wrestler” is underselling him so hard
Well he liked British bulldog haha, but I'm from the UK and both of these jobbers definitely don't have an English accent, ones from America and the other is from new Zealand, they're still both mediocre and bland.
He's not even from the UK, either.
That's the one thing that gets me about his critique. Everything else is fair but when he's sitting there calling him a "UK guy" I can't help but roll my eyes a bit.
It's like assuming a Minnesotian is from Canada for some reason.
@@HisDudeness316 As Dr. House said, "You put the Queen on your money, you're British."
Especially when he’s from New Zealand 😂
Tony’s booking boils down to ‘Google it if you don’t know’
Most apt description. Bravo
Dusty; we gonna have the Rock N’ Roll Express go over on the Midnights, baybay.
Corny Hogan; that doesn’t work for me, muthaf*cka! 🤣
I have a feeling this might best tag team feud out there at least until maybe they bring in the Von Erichs.
R.I.P. Iron Sheik.
Damn RIP to the iron shiek
As a fan of Jay White, this is gonna be one of those instances that while I respect Jim's opinion, I have to disagree about him. Maybe once he gets a PPV match or that program Punk wants Jim's mind will change, but I won't hinge my opinion of Jay on Cornette's. If he doesn't get him, he doesn't get him.
Juice reminds me of Brian Pillman.
Jay White is from New Zealand.
I actually laughed out loud at the tonic joke 😂
With FTR & Ricky Starks seemingly forming an alliance against Bullet Club Gold, it makes me think we’ll soon see a new 3rd member to Bullet Club Gold. El Phantasmo? Tama Tonga?
would say bring in someone to do the bodyguard gimmick to stand there and do nothing 🫤 but look intimidating.
or do typical TK booking and hire Kevin Nash 😂 cause we all know tony loves the legends
El Phantasmo is feuding with Finlay's BC so I guess he won't show up in AEW.
Edit: After thinking about it. I still think they will do some NJPW BC vs AEW BC Gold at Forbidden Door. Finlay did a promo on BC Gold a few weeks ago and wasn't pleased about it. So with Finlay maybe showing up at FD El Phantasmo could show up too and join BC Gold.
I think Jim would love Tama
i would love for hobbs to join BCG it make sense cause of his history with starks and it would get him away from QT which needs to happen like please
@@dannyquang7359 If it gets Hobbs away from this QTV stuff I'm all for it.
Juice reminds me of Brian Pilman. He's got that unhinged intensity about him.
I feel like Pilman legitimately had a few screws loose lol. That SCSA rivalry in WWF was legendary.
I can't look at Juice without seeing Dwight Schrute.
AEW is not the place to go if you want things explained.... you have to already know.. if don't even think about asking because if you ask the AEW marks will just call you a "hater" rather than answer you.
Reminded me of that time TK announced some Vikingo guy and all we got was crickets from the audience. Then when he appeared, I was like, Lol, it's just a small Mexican manlet barely 5 foot cosplaying as a Viking.
@@TheMrAlgoh and if you went online and asked "who?" you would be called a hater by a whole bunch of people who also have no idea who the guy is but insist that its a "dream match" 🤣
Internet marks don't care about watching wrestling, they care about saying things that other internet marks will think is the cool thing to say.
@@TheMrAlgoh AEW and their fanbase have whittled themselves down to a bunch of nerd circle jerking while complimenting each other on their form.
Died looking at this thumbnail 😂
Bullet Club Gold is like the NWO Wolf Pac, because Jay White was kicked out and started Bullet Club Gold in AEW. Kinda like how Nash and Macho Man left NWO Black and White and did their own thing. It could do well if done right.
Juice came up in the NXT system under Dusty. He had a strong foundation to work with.
good to see that Jim knows how good juice is he's definitely got something once Jay gets a decent feud and opponent maybe he'll get him aswell
yeah i can understand jim not getting how good e is but he was great in this segment along with ricky
I feel like anyone non-Japanese working for NJPW who gets to work in AEW ,Jim wouldn't be too nice. Jim actually nicknamed Will Ospreay, Will Ostrich, which is a shame given if you watch Ospreay's matches with the likes of Lance Archer, Shingo Takagi, a wrestling fan who wants to enjoy wrestling would enjoy it. When Jim watched the WK match between Ospreay and Omega, Jim actually warmed up to an extent.
@@sigmablock true but he has praised will as well. If anything the fact that Jim Ross clearly rates WIll Ospreay very highly shows that HC would probably liked him if he saw him more regularly.
@@kamikoto1558 Oh I do agree. In fact somebody should tweet both Brian and Jim that they should watch WALTER(A.k.a. Gunther in WWE) vs Will Ospreay back in 2018 in an indie promotion called OTT Wrestling. A match that imo would make Jim further warm up towards Ospreay.
Jim once praised Moxley the same way. Just give it a couple months 🤣
Juice in this image looks like Braun Strowman and Bo Dallas' love child.
They feel Tony up and everything. Lol.
Lovin' this thumbnail Travis !!
Quite Ironically, WWE has explained the Bullet Club way better than AEW because Michael Cole brought them up every time AJ or Finn Balor faced each other or when Anderson and Gallows did something.
They did a small video on the Bullet Clubs history a few weeks ago tbh
Yeah I remember that
I was there this was good live
JAY'S FROM NEW ZEALAND
On my "Never would I ever" modern professional wrestling bingo card would I have had "Jim Cornette is intruiged by Juice Robinson" in a square
This segment was great nothing to complain about.
Juice, Gin & Tonic, hahah love it!
I believe the "Gold" complements the brand they are on, not particularly a branch of the "Club".
Juice is Randy Savage ironically without the Juice and only a couple key hits of coke instead of the whole 8ball.
This reminds me of the 1980 and earlier 1990 .
Curt useing them on jerry lawer
R.I.P. Iron Sheik
Juice Robinson has the same energy Brian Pillman used to have in his promos. (Kinda hilarious considering Tony Khan has Brian's son under contract and doesn't use him.) I actually like him.
As for Jay, haven't seen anything impressive yet.
Another guy named Tonic.... That was pretty good lol
* cues up FTR theme *
Absolutely love Juice Robinson!
Juice and Jay White are both great performers. AEW has, as is typically, not featured their best aspects. Jay White is phenomenal in the ring, especially in drawn out fueds were he can work a lot of drama. Juice is a wild man and over the top personality. But we haven't seen either showcase their best side in AEW because AEW booking is (again) messy at best.
Its so weird how Tony just hands off the mic then slinks off to the corner for every segment. I like that they force him to stick around
I think CM Punk chose well with Joe and Bullet Club Gold as his opening match with FTR. Can’t wait.
Damn it! I know Jim doesn't want to book anything. But hearing him book this makes me wish Tony would smarten up and hire a real booker
This segment was awesome it’s amazing what happens when you let people speak
Should've began the feud with promos because that's Ricky and Jay's strength
Juice can be what moxely wants to be
A wildman drifter
I love when the heels mess with the announcer/commentator. That was good and old school.
CORNYMANIA RUNNIN WILD BRUTHAAA 😂
Juice looks like a dwarf suffering from gigantism
Gin, Juice & Tonic 😂
I would be interested in juice and white vs FTR. That could be good but it’s looking like it’s going to turn into a 6 man tag with starks and FTR vs white and juice with another bullet club guy come in. I’ll give it a chance but I’d rather see a regular tag match.
Curious who the 3rd guy will be. I thought it was going to be ELP since he & Jay were a decent tag team, but it looks like he's gone full babyface with a new theme song & all. Can't imagine FinnJuice reuniting with Jay there, so that's out too.
@@superrobot5384 not sure but I wish they would just leave it alone and do a regular tag match but they always gotta do something for the marks in Aew with some trios nonsense
Killer Instinct Gold
Jay white is from New Zealand not England 💀
Someone should tell jim that Jay white is bushwacker lukes grandson and hes from new zealand
For the last time Jim, Jay isn't from the UK!
I’m glad that Jim likes Juice I have always enjoyed his work in New Japan and his work as a face was always good to me
Juice might become a bigger AEW star (more over) than Jay White even though AEW is trying to tell you he's just 2nd fiddle to Jay.
Bullet Club Gold could have El Phantasmo soon
Goddamnit Brian is right again😂
“ I hope they don’t turn this into a trios“ WELP
Last no selling the tonic. Brutal
Gin Juice and Tonic....perfect AEW Trios group! They could be the Barflies
Wait I just thought of something...could they make Miro a character named "Vodka" and give him a partner "Tonic", like maybe Andrade? Then Gin and Juice could feud with Vodka and Tonic on Collision.
LICENSE
TO PRINT
MONEY
This had Punk creative written all over it
I like when the heels bully the announcers within reason
I mean don't bloody them but pull their tie, push them around so when the face comes down you want them to kick their ass
Juice explained last week what is bullet club gold on Hey EW!!
To answer Jim’s question, no, they haven’t ONCE explained the difference between Bullet Club regular and Bullet Club Gold on any AEW TV I’ve seen. But if you say anything like that to those fans, their responses are always to “just google it”. I don’t want to be spoon fed every detail when I watch wrestling but I don’t want to have to be on Wikipedia for a half hour to understand why two guys were mad at each other in Japan 8 years ago
What I don’t get, is that David Finley, the current leader of the BC in Japan attacked Jay white on his last appearance. So why is Jay white still representing the bullet club.
cos aew fans are marks for japan so they stick it on their tv
NXT + NJPW Dojo = Well-Rounded
I kinda fucks with juice Robinson Brian planted a seed in my head that I like crazy looking ppl.. juice got something
Bullet Club Gold just a way to get around copy rights
I liked this segment a lot. I want to see more of the two guys and less of trampoline cowboys. Is calling the group "Bullet Club Gold" a way for them to sell shirts? They obviously couldn't call it the Bullet Club and sell it. And they don't talk about it on this show, but Tony assumes you're watching WWE and know it's just The OC's South charter.
Jay loves Seagrams 7.🥃🥃🥃
Tony has never had a good suit. Even on Nitro, Nash asked Tony if he got a free bowl of soup with his suit
Juice is awesome . He can be a great babyface too . And Switchblade is great too we just havnt seen it in AEW . Im not sure why that is . Its not like he forgot how to do great promos ! I dont think lol ! ?
I'm surprised Brian hasn't corrected Jim about Jay White yet. He's from New Zealand, not England.
It's like saying a guy is from Georgia not Texas.😂😂😂😂
Probably because he knows Jim will respond with something like "Does anyone give a shit?"
Juice could be the grandson of one of the moon dogs (spot or Rex)
I popped loud af at the tonic joke at the end. 😂
I think the thumbnail kinda tells something. We all know the parody aspect of BC and NWO, and if I remember my WcW and I do Schiavone was always being teased and goofed by Hall and Nash and look i'm no Tony Khan hater but I do agree he goes to the well a bit much recalling WcW and TNA stuff. So is "Gold" AeW's version of NWO...basically, especially if they bring a legend as their third lol that's unlikely but recruitment jokes...do we see Gold add members, it's possible but hopefully it's just done right.
New Zealand Jim ffs. Hes not from the UK 😂😂
Why not the Golden Juice ?
Naaah, Jay White is much better than Jim is giving him credit
I popped for tonic
Jay went from being the leader of the Bullet Club to now being part of Jin and Juice 😂.
Cornette's storytelling skills are superior.
Juice reminds me of Pilman
Jay White is a kiwi dammit!
I like ol juice. I hope he can get more TV time
Juice was always good, he had a tag title after one match in FCW back when it existed. They never did that before and again.
Who?
Travis Is Too Good 😭😭😭
Drives me mad how they introduce these factions and give no back story. There are so many thrown together groups and they expect you to treat them as a big deal.
I don’t watch NJPW, I know bullet club but why don’t they explain what BC Gold is!?
But you are suppose to know everything going in to a show, if you aren't Googling every wrestlers entire history, you're not a rEaL fAn. /s
BC Gold doesn't really have any story at the moment.
Jay White was the leader of Bullet Club for some years now.
In January White lost the IWGP World Heavyweight belt to Okada. White blamed Hikuleo for his loss. Hikuleo was a BC member and attacked White last year and left BC then. So this lead to a match between Hikuleo and White with the stipulation of the loser having to leave Japan. White lost toHikuleo, left Japan (not NJPW) and went to NJPW Strong, the US division of NJPW and which White help building up.
White had a rivalry with Eddie Kingston going on, who also shows up at NJPW Strong shows here and there. This rivalvry led to a match between White and Kingston at Battle in the Valley PPV in February. The match got a stipulation: if Eddie loses he would have to ask White if he wants to wrestle for NJPW. If White loses he had to leave NJPW completely.
White lost to Kingston, left NJPW, took a break for some weeks and then joined AEW.
Juice Robinson officially never left Bullet Club NJPW.
After the White vs Kingston match Jay White got attacked by David Finlay who is now leader of Bullet Club NJPW. After another NJPW event Finlay did a promo about Bullet Club Gold and disavowed it.
So Bullet Club Gold is at the moment just White and Robinson and not acknowledged by the true BC in NJPW.
@@Bjaerke And this screams a BC Gold vs BC at Forbidden Door, I hope this could happen. And ELP should help Jay and Juice.
@@gm2998 Yeah, I still think they will do some BC Gold vs BC NJPW stuff at FD. The only issue I see is: which outcome?
If Team Finlay wins why should he allow BC Gold to exist? Why should he acknowledge them?
If Team White wins how would that not underminde Finlay's leadership of BC NJPW?
I would like to see a White vs Finlay match though.
And ELP could easily show up to fork with Finlay and probably cost him the match.
@@Bjaerke You're right. Tbh, I'm still not invested in "Rebel Era", Finlay is a forced leader to me. So, maybe this matchup isn't the best thing right now but I'd love it!
Yeah Juice is fantastic
I like Juice Robinson and I’m giving Jay a chance but the fact that Bullet Club Gold is a thing is extremely weird because the Elite were the ELITE of Bullet Club, what is gold the gold memebers of the bullet club??? bullet club itself is played out and it all feels done before
Wow did Jim say something nice about juice and jay. And them hiding behind Tony made that segment