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VOX AC15C1 - VOX AC15VR Comparison
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- čas přidán 10. 01. 2018
- Comparação entre o irmão mais novo e o irmão mais velho!
Comparison between younger brother and older brother!
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The C1 definitely has more presence and cleaner tones. I also noticed the C1 sounded better and better as time went on...
Its possibly a poor setup. Its a solid state that preamp and a tube power amp. Phenomenal that they figured out, and are selling a way to load the power amp stage and not the preamp (while keeping volume down too).
So for this, if you crank the master volume and individual channels are near zero its good!
The main goal of the AC15VR amp was to create a lighter, more dependable and more affordable version of the AC15. For this reason, the AC15VR has a solid state power amp, which is much lighter, more dependable and less expensive than a tube power amp. In addition, a 12AX7 preamp tube was used in between the solid state pre and power amp to simulate the tonal distortion of a tube power amp. This is referred to by Vox as the 'valve reactor' approach (hence the 'VR' in the name ;).
They sound similar, the difference is subtle but noticeable, still for the price, i think the VR is a great option.
Just tried out the VR and I was impressed that it sounds full, loud and very clean. I guess the C1 will sound better.
Thanks for this. Very useful. VR is good, but for anyone wanting to replicate those early Beatlesque tones, the C1 stands out. Whether it's just the different Celestion speaker or everything including hybrid stage in the VR IDK, but much as prefer the favourable weight and price of the VR, I'll be buying a C1 when the time comes.
May be the most realistic review that I have ever seen, thanks. The ac15 wins overall for me.
yeah, ac15 was better than the... the other one
@@nickzaytz5712 totally bro, i prefered the ac15 to the ac15 bro
Great comparison - I am very impressed with the new Vox AC15VR and the AC30VR - no typical white or pink noise for either . I will say that there is just a minute bit of more richness in the tube version but the difference is very minimal. Good Work Vox!
The AC15C1 is a clear winner here, but the VR wasn't too far behind it. Be interesting to know the weight difference. The C1 weighs about 48 lbs, maybe the VR would be an attractive option for people who would struggle with the C1 weight but want that unbeatable Vox sound.
Yes, the VR weights a lot less. And it's more versatile with its "OD1" and "OD2" buttons. Those are things to bear in mind when choosing one of them!
valoto the VR is certainly a great amp and yes if that's the kind of sound you are looking for then the OD feature could be a big plus. Is it just the camera angle or is the VR wider? Maybe a twin?
@@davidbarlow431 Exact same size, if i'm not mistaken! It's been a while since the VR is gone.
Vox amps, good playing, Beatles. What else could you ask for? I find the VR to have more midrange. I love both. The C1 is an icon but the VR costs and weighs less. Difficult choice. A pleasing surprise is what you say in the answers about being equivalente in volume. Thank you!
Is someone a Beatles fan, by any chance? Also, great playing and great video. Thanks
It's rare to find one, but I am a Beatles fan
@@nickzaytz5712 Im really big The Beatles Fan :)
Here I am.
The VR has more of the later Beatles sound to me. I’m talking about the era when they were using the solid-state Voxes to record revolver, and Sergeant Pepper. It’s a more compressed sound but I really dig it. I have the Dr. Robert pedal and it reminds me of that tone. Both sound great.
Can't beat a full Vox valve sound (pre-amp and output tubes) and playing response. The thing is the C1 is significantly heavier than the VR so if you are lugging stuff around all the time or for practice it makes sense.
Nice comparison demo . .the C1 sounded fuller, especially the last 3 tunes you did . . but not by a whole lot. Thanks. That Casino sounds pretty sweet.
Thanks! Indeed, the main difference between them is the bottom end, which may be more proeminent on the last tunes. I have to say though, it is much more noticeable live!
It really sounds like the C1 has a chorus on it
Tienen la misma textura pero el color cambia a algo más intenso en el C1. No sé si a eso le llaman más orgánico pero además se siente en el cuerpo. Habría que ver qué parlantes están usando porque eso también repercute y tal vez mucho más que otro aspecto,en el cuerpo y color del sonido.
Great great job! It is strange to find this kink of videos.Thanks a lot guy!
Different mics? And can't be sure from the camera angle, but the mic placement appears different. Different enough to make a significant difference in tone.
I did enjoy this video. Good work
Sin duda la diferencia en notoria, pero relación precio calidad no merece la pena el C1, sin dudas si tuviese la plata al pedo como para comprarlo lo haría de una , pero la mejora de sonido no creo que justifique la diferencia de plata
I have an Ac15vr made it open back cabinet. Also changed the 12ax7 tube, which made a big diference and removed a diode on OD2 channel to have a more natural overdrive!
Hi, what tube did you put in ??
I used a nickel plate 12ax7 (i think it's a chinese hi grade). Also remoevd C42 for more output brightness and changed the speaker to a Eminence GB128 which is darker than the original one, but has a more rounded bottom!
E aí pedro! O AC15VR desse video foi revisado recentemente e o luthier realmente me falou que trocar a válvula dá um resultado legal. Infelizmente estou vendendo ele então pra mim não vai dar tempo! Mas muito legais as modificações que você fez no seu! Abs!!
Replaced the VR's only tube, with a 1950s mullard....wow really opened it up....
What diode did you remove? The original od2 indeed sounds harsh imo
A diferença entre ambos parece muito sutil. Com o ac15 c1 sendo levemente um pouco mais orgânico apenas. Seria isso mesmo?
Cara, ao vivo a diferença é maior, mas é por aí mesmo! De qualquer forma pela diferença de preço o VR manda muito bem. É um bom apli
Gracias por publicar esta comparación
De nada! :)
Parabéns pelo vídeo. Amigo, pra eu conseguir um som melhor no vr, ou seja, usar mais da válvula, eu preciso utilizar mais o volume master do que o normal? Agradeço se puder me ajudar. Obrigado!
E aí Jackson! Cara, não precisa abrir muito não, o VR apresenta sons legais mesmo em volumes baixos. Abs!
I play Ac15vr on rehearsal with bands at 80% power is on par with other instruments ....
To get a nicer tone as a pedal I use a Vox cooltron overdrive with a tube ....
Could it be used to gig or just rehearse
@@dominickfine1310 I was playing an open-air concert as the whole band sounded and I had one microphone on the amp
Ac15 has top boost and the vr only has this in over drive ?
Hi! It's been a while since the VR is gone but from what I can remember it did not had top boost on any of its channels. But in the overdrive channel you could switch between "od1" and "od2"!
How do you get that clean settings for the AC15C1 while recording? At the moment, im recording my new album, and i need to get more or less a clean sound for recording!
Hey Jon! I can't remember exactly the settings I used but just don't turn it up too loud and you'll be fine, really! :)
@@bundr cool. Im keeping experience. Can't quite find the tone for my 95 strat 😂
Thanks! this was super helpful in choosing which to buy!
(I got the VR)
@@mikedesena5065 Great choice! Can't go wrong with either! The VR is a great sounding and very versatile amp. Glad I could help!
@@bundr does it react to pedals well? Send return equipped? I have a boss Gt1 I use.
Vox ac15vr se la llevará bien con pedales análogos y si realmente suene lo suficientemente fuerte
Moço, me dá um help!!
O ac15vr é realmente uma boa opção? a diferença de volume pro C1 é muito grande?
preciso de amp pra pequenos shows, em bares e etc
pra servir como retorno também. Tô muito em dúvida se pego o VR ou o Blues Junior. Porém a diferença de preço é tão gritante...
Oi Michelle! O VR imita o CC1 bem em todos os aspectos, até mesmo com relação ao volume geral e ao headroom! Então o volume é equivalente sim, e é suficiente pra shows pequenos e médios (especialmente se vc não se importa em ter um som 100% limpo, pq ele começa a crunchar cedo). Já com relação ao Blues Jr, sua escolha vai ter que ser mais pautada com relação ao estilo dos amplis! Eu tenho o Blues Jr tb e posso te dizer que o AC15 é um ampli com personalidade mais forte (puxa mais pro agudo e médio, e não tem regulagem de médios, seja na versão CC1 ou VR). Já o Blues Jr é mais versátil, e tem um reverb bem melhor. O VR tem uma vantagem com relação ao CC1 que é ter dois tipos de distorção diferentes, uma mais overdrive e outra com mais ganho, o que torna ele ideal pra tocar de tudo na notie (mas não vem com footswitch tem que comprar separado!). De qualquer forma com qualquer um desses vc não vai errar, são todos amplis muito bons e que vão te atender em shows pequenos e médios! Abs!!
valoto nossa, me ajudou muito. Eu testei o VR e achei o som dele encorpado na minha semi acústica, tô com medo do blues Jr ser muito agudo porque não testei só vi reviews. Mas os guitarristas num geral são bem puristas em relação a ampli valvulado e eu só quero praticidade no momento. O blues Jr ia me custar um pouco mais e eu nem testei. Mas seus dados sobre os amps me ajudaram muito, é um investimento grande e eu tô querendo ter cuidado pra escolher. Obrigada.
Michelle Marques Guitar Works Sei bem, guitarrista é um bicho fetichista!! Eheh!! Não esquenta, se você gostou do VR vai fundo. Eu acho ele um ampli muuuito legal (e além de tudo é mais fácil de carregar que o CC1), só tô me livrando dele pq não posso ficar com os 2. Abs!!
Certainly sounded almost identical particularly for the clean.
But the VR must have sounded much quieter since it was 15 watt solid state? Not enough to gig I imagine.
Didn't think that there will be THAT MUCH difference
Change the ax7 to a mullard or other high product it changes its tone try
What kind of mics are you using?? I’m in the store for a good sounding mic. And this sounds great🤯
Hey Josiah. I'm using behringer's XM8500, which are SM58 clones.
Hello good video, my question is there are significant differences between the volume of each amplifier in clean channel and in saturated? (Sorry for my bad English)
That is, between the volume in clean channel (vr) vs clean channel (valve) and saturated (vr) vs saturated (valve)
Is Very close
Thank you!
Parece que temos dois fans de Beatles aki
En lo personal me gusta más el c1
O AC15C1 eu sei que aguenta, mas o VR consegue fazer pequenos shows/ensaio? Ou talvez servir como retorno no palco quando micado? Uso o canal limpo então precisava de um headroom confortável
Giuliam Uchima Fala Giuliam! O VR é uma boa cópia do C1, inclusive no que diz respeito ao volume total e ao headroom. Eles são bem comparáveis nesse sentido, não tem muita diferença! Só não espere som 100% limpo de nenhum dos dois em volumes altos, eles não tem muito headroom e saturam relativamente cedo. Na minha opinião dá tranquilamente pra fazer shows e ensaios pequenos com o VR. A saturação não é o suficiente pra deixar o seu som sujo de verdade (adiciona só um pouquinho mais de agressividade no som limpo). Dependendo do estilo que vc vai tocar, é até algo desejável.
Dá tranquilo. Nunca tive problemas com o volume, ele dá e sobra. Às vezes fico até contrariado por causa de não poder deixar tão alto em certos pubs, pois soa melhor em volume mais alto. Só preciso microfonar quando o espaço é aberto ou muito grande, mas aí tem que microfonar mesmo, independente da potência do amp. Ele fala bem alto.
🔵 wow ❕ I'm interested in this VR amp cause it won't cost me selling sumptin' else ; already got the Orange crush 35RT and I wanted a good mix of two different kinds of amps for about the same money ; is this a good idea or am I just wastin' my money with two similar amps ❔❓😐
I don't have experience with the 35RT but the AC15VR is definitively a good amp for the money! And it'll give you that Vox sound.
C1 sounds fat but better IMHO. Good for seeing the mistakes while playing.
They don't have the same speakers, the one on the ac15vr is a Celestion seventy 80 wich has less bass, the one on the c1 (greenback) is fuller, it changes the tones... I've had both and the two are really good amps... 😉
@@meihdi123 My AC15VR has a Celestian VX12 which was made specially for this amp. I am really tempted to try a Greenback as I have played the C1 with a GreenBack and also a Warehouse speaker and they both sounded great.
So C1.... gotcha
yo me pegué una clavo con el vr. no se banca big muff con delay. no tiene nada de bajos ni de medios.
Wow. I prefer the VR. IM shocked
Oi, não sei se vc já chegou a testar o Boss katana, mas se sim? Acha qual mais jogo? O vox vr ou o katana? Da pra tocar o vox vr em casa e ter um timbre legal sem que minha mulher e vizinhos surtem?
Fala Pablo! Nunca toquei o Katana, mas o VR tem timbres muito legais em volumes baixos sim.
What switch are you using to plug into two amps?
It's a handmade A/B box!
complimenti bella dimostrazione. mi sono iscritto al canale
Grazie mille per il supporto, Giovanni! Grande abbraccio!
O som do ac15 c1 e muito mais limpo e cristalino do que o ac15 vr
I didn't know what I was watching at first . I emediatly thought to myself that the c1 sounded better. The hybrid vox sounded kind of dead. Still has that vox tone though. I had no idea what a vox vr was until after the video so there was no bias here.
I, considering buying the one the left,tune your axe likesay!
What's the difference between that two amps in terms of volume?
They are pretty much equivalent in terms of volume!
Very impressive,i think is enough for a little gig I think
Really?@@bundr
Nice video mate! BTW, which tune do you use on your guitar? Cheers!
Hey Omoges! Sorry but I didn't understand. You mean the guitar tuners? Or the actual songs (tunes) I'm playing? Maybe the tuning of the strings?
Hi Valoto, thanks for the demo. By any chance is the C1 louder than the VR at same volume knob levels?
Mariano Chavero Hey Mariano! It's been a while since I played these two side by side, but as far as I can remember there isn't much difference regarding sound levels (or even headroom before the amps start to saturate, the AC15VR is a good equivalent even on this aspect!). The main difference lies on the sound (Cc1 has fuller, bassier sound which I wasn't able to capture appropriately) and on the fact that the VR has 2 overdrive channels (which is really cool and sound great).
Thanks Valoto. I'm wondering how the VR would sound with a BlueBack on it
1:18 song?
While my guitar gently weeps!
thank you.
could you show me your guitar tone setting and amp eq setting?
Hello Hyunchul! Unfortunately I don't remember the exact guitar and Amp settings. What I can say is that the amp knobs were dialed to equivalent positions to make the comparisons!
@@bundr Thank you for your answer.
Big difference.
4:16 what is the music ?
Take five by Dave brubeck, with a few wrong notes tossed in!
Ac15c1 wins for me
C1 sounds better
Obviously
Quanto de ganho você usou no VR? Tenho um Ac 30VR, mas o clean sempre parece um pouco “sujo” demais
Fala Johnny! Não lembro quanto ganho eu usei no dia da gravação, mas sei que não foi muito. Esses amplificadores tem característica de saturar mais cedo mesmo!
valoto Valeu!!
@@JoaoGuilherme-fn8jo Oi Johnny, eu tenho um AC30VR, e o canal limpo é realmente limpo (volume principal até o máximo e volume "normal" ao mínimo), ele tem a desvantagem de que você não pode usar os dois volumes cheios porque ele começa a saturar um pouco, você pode compensar isso afastando os microfones do violão (o mais distante das cordas, o limpador), outra alternativa é usar o OD1 (com todo o "volume" cheio), mas diminuindo o volume do violão, isso limpa um pouco o sinal , ele não se torna um "canal limpo", mas você tem a vantagem de poder usá-lo no volume máximo, desculpe pelo mau português, estou usando o google translate: D saudações da Argentina!
C1 15
Heads up to anyone looking to buy the brand, it sounds awful. The video doesn’t quite get this across.
2:14
2:38
The vr sounds god awful. Wtf did I buy? Could’ve gotten a used C1 for $100 more
vox
Listen through good speakers and the VR gets badly beaten. The VR sounds great til he’s switched to the C1
no se dejen engañar: está tocando un riffito pedorro, si llega a tocar acordes completos vas a notar que suena a radiocita
Both sound fantastic great playing c1 little warmer but VR sound great as well and a lot better priced