President Message - Trail Re-Route

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  • čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
  • This video will explain a re-route of the Rubicon Trail in 2025. Please watch the whole video to understand all aspects of the project.
    On March 13, 2024 @ 7PM RTF will be hosting a Zoom Meeting for users to ask any questions they may have.
    us02web.zoom.u...

Komentáře • 25

  • @advapp
    @advapp Před 6 měsíci +1

    Thanks for the video and I think I want to donate because this is how you work together with the community and I'm kind of excited because that part of trail is very boring We have a chance now to make actually more wheeling on the Rubicon where that's going through that is I don't believe that's a road so I mean this is could be a good thing and exciting thing and Barker pass is always been my favorite way out anyway

  • @popo_patty
    @popo_patty Před 6 měsíci +4

    Thanks for the update! I'm liking this a lot!

  • @protacodan4225
    @protacodan4225 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Thank you RTF for the update, hope this keeps the trail open for many more years to come.

  • @samwalker3441
    @samwalker3441 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Awesome news, Ken and RTF. Thanks for putting this out. You go, Mike Barr.

  • @donhappel9566
    @donhappel9566 Před 6 měsíci +5

    Let's hope this re-route works out as well as SlickRock where the trail actually improved.

  • @rockwater1000
    @rockwater1000 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Ken,
    Thank you for moving this towards reality. Only a proactive approach will keep the Rubicon a beautiful and challenging point to point route. The reroute terrain affords some great design opportunities.
    Will

  • @dwaynemartin5174
    @dwaynemartin5174 Před 6 měsíci +2

    After wheeling Rubicon for 45 years I'm excited about a new section

  • @welndmn
    @welndmn Před 6 měsíci +1

    Happy to see the Maniac is a part of it.
    I’m just a shovel but happy to help as well.

  • @MariaBarnes-y4u
    @MariaBarnes-y4u Před 6 měsíci +1

    This project is very expansive and more than what is needed. You are talking about a huge bypass to alleviate a section of trail which is only about 200 feet in length. This could be accomplished with a lot less money, which by the way RTF hasn’t spent that much money on the trail in years. Case law doesn’t mean you can bypass written contracts with the Forest Service which has to guarantee the RS2477 would be implemented on the new section of trail. If not then the FS can close that new section of trail when they wish to. As far as RTF funding, why are you refusing to show the financial records of your 501C3 corporation as requested. Another point should be how is Mike Barr getting a contract when it hasn’t been put out to bid? And I appreciate El Dorado County, but this project is in Placer County and on Forest Service land. Also, this project had a previous grant for planning with El Dorado County that was not fulfilled. There was an agreement in place for the FS to do the work and the County to reimburse about $25,000.00, but this did not happen and the grant was returned without an expense and was unfulfilled. Lastly, where is it documented that the RS2477 will be maintained for the bypasses that will be re-routed around? These areas should not be abandoned or closed. There can be alternates but the original trail should remain. The public should not give up any rights to the original trail. There are just too many questions about this issue that have not been addressed.

    • @RubiconTrailFoundation
      @RubiconTrailFoundation  Před 6 měsíci

      There was a public zoom meeting with the Geologist, Legal and Forest to discuss the project. This will be posted for others to listen, so look for it soon. The basics are...anything other than a reroute, as the geologist stated would be problematic and expensive. Information we received regarding options like post pile driven for support would run into the millions. The forest service has no input in RS2477, and that is included in the meeting. El Dorado County has an maintenance MOU and started this project. TNF as the fee holder and operator of this portion of the road is managing the grant. There is no RS2477 in place by Placer County on this portion, this is addressed in the meeting by RTF RS2477 legal expert. We're hopeful that Placer County will assert their rights, but TNF would still be managing the grant as fee holder. Nothing would change for the project. Our attorney was very clear in the call that rerouting a trail is not legally the same as abandonment. I encourage you to listen when posted. As for RTF Financials, simply request them! We will be happy to provide them and have done so upon request. We don't get asked a lot, but when we do we're legally obligated to do so. It's not a burdensome request. We always have them available. We have 30 days to provide them, but typically it's less than 24 hours that we send them out. Thanks for the comment!

  • @leifwilson7053
    @leifwilson7053 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Won't the road work have to go out to bid being that it is government funded public work?

    • @RubiconTrailFoundation
      @RubiconTrailFoundation  Před 6 měsíci +1

      For sure...that's typically true. The reason it is not required because TNF identified RTF as a sole source provider because we have the experience to build an off-road trail, not just a dirt road or a highway. It's not like they can go to Granite Construction or some other CalTrans road builder. Great question though...thanks.

  • @mojavedesertsonorandesert9531
    @mojavedesertsonorandesert9531 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Had me sweating bullets for a second...😅

  • @WeTheJeeples
    @WeTheJeeples Před 6 měsíci

    Will there be info on the RTF website for volunteers?

    • @RubiconTrailFoundation
      @RubiconTrailFoundation  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Yes. We're building a page specifically for the project. 2025 would be the call out.

  • @squeakin3
    @squeakin3 Před 6 měsíci +1

    how is this good news?

    • @RubiconTrailFoundation
      @RubiconTrailFoundation  Před 6 měsíci

      I encourage you to listen to the Zoom call that took place last night when the recording is posted. The short version, the Geologist with California estimated within 10 years, this section of the trail will be closed. By proactively, creating a route around it, the Rubicon Trail remains open. That is why it's good news.

    • @squeakin3
      @squeakin3 Před 6 měsíci

      I feel it is a double edged sword. It is great news the rubicon trail will stay open. I enjoy the trail at minimum, once a year, but are we opening Pandora’s box? Seeing they can threaten closure and we now have to change the route. When will the gov claim we need to close a major part of the trail. Can’t we do maintenance on the existing route to keep it open?
      I get it’s a balancing act of working with the evil groups and getting along with them but also putting our foot down when we need to as well.