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Bro snuck G2 into that sentence
Brother thinks G2 is part of the group
bro thinks he's slick
@@davidmaguellal1613 I mean Caps did solo kill Chovy last year.
G2 is good tho
@@Esotericspirits2019 G2 was. This G2 is dogshit
Surely they won't choke *this* time...
Surely...
i agree with caedrel here, the majority of league fans and analysts have been saying chovy is the best for a few years (with faker as goat but not as op as he used to be) and chovy's teams always seemed to underperform internationally, at some point u just cant put that on his teammates anymore because that would also mean he failed to carry his team multiple times, which contradicts with the argument that he is the best player, i will say chovy is the best domestically
Chovy has the best mechanics, but faker understands the game better than anyone, hence why I still rate him higher
@@jacob2808pretty sure chovy has out macro'd faker on a regular basis
@@jacob2808 i am a huge faker fan but i also love being objective, i do also think faker is perhaps the best shotcaller on the planet, and its not something most people think about when ranking players, but faker also made some big mistakes in the most recent finals, but he also made some pretty big plays that saved the game singlehandedly, but i value chovy's consistency too, so in my mind faker and chovy are extremely close, but chovy is very slightly higher than faker
@@lchn12345678 Faker has that x factor that no other player does, time and time again he does something to save T1 from losing. Sometimes he can int the entire game but his experience and macro is almost unmatched if he is locked in. Sometimes at a random time in a game he taps into some higher energy and raises his micro above everyone else for few minutes. Then you remember he has done this since S2 at the highest level and you ask yourself how does he still do it.
His Ahri is trash compared to Chov, these skill champs is the way Chovy counters him, Chovy is a micro whisperer. Unless this esport goes for another 10 years, there will never again be somebody as good as Chovy on a champion.
@@MartinWasTakenhard agree. most people call it the clutch factor, and it tends to be overlooked most of the time, yet its one of the most important aspect when objectively rating a player. look at fakers azir shuffle against jdg/ruler last Worlds. That singlhandedly won them the game, and you could say that it instanty raised the morale of the team for the rest of the series. Its being able to spot and make those plays THAT MATTER when you NEED IT THE MOST.
gen g fans: "I CAN FIX HIM"
Well get ready to be done with Gen G 👍🏻
imagine geng surprises us all and doesnt choke for once
peyz: nah, I'd int
thats just sad and funny thinking no. 1 team in LCK performing in international stage is a surprise for us lol
@@criisjooy7805add Lehends to that, bot lane is just a play ground
@@criisjooy7805 yah bro perma leaves lane down cs and like 0-2-1 score line
Its so crazy we be making this 1st statememt the team is #1 in lck for like 3 years now, but damn you cant blame the people and the supporters, ive been supporting gen g and t1, but mygod t1 always delivers when mtatters, i hope and please god let gen g win atleast 1 international
I’ve been a geng fan since 2019 where we barely missed playoffs. I’m ready for us to go deep internationally
3 absolutes in life; death, taxes and Choky showing up internationally.
He wasnt even bad last year, it was Doran and Peanut trolling hard.
@@VladaBB surely we watched what he did in game 5 right? Also he was consistently under performing even in the games they won.
@@mathewzheng753 Doran yea, Chovy not really. You just hating. Bro plays with 4 bots most of the time who underperform. To bash on best player in the team is crazy ngl.
@@VladaBB what about game 2 when Chovy E+Q in on azir, doesn’t ult and sells himself out to Jarvan and renata R or what about game 3 when Chovy missed E+Q on yagao and inted but it was Doran and Peanut that won them the fight, or what about in game 4 when he tried to take a 2v1 against elk and on when none of his team was around and died for it or in game 4 he when Chovy r2 over the wall on akali into 4 people and if it wasn’t for yagao missing Neeko R he would’ve died and probably lost the fight, or what about Game 5 on baron when instead of akali ulting 4 people he chose to ult yagao and miss both of his Es? What about those moments were they also Doran’s fault?
@@mathewzheng753 its ok chovy defenders dont watch games
Man im so hyped
MIKYX OVER KERIA AINTNOWAY
As a fan of gen g who been there for a long time, please make it happen this time
Honestly respect the commitment. Hope you lot do well
feel like pedro shouldn't take this risk here, but should take it at worlds. this is the first split and first intl this exact roster has played together. pedro at worlds though should accept this bet
Why does that matter? Worlds is way harder to top 2 even if you are top 2 team in the tourney. For example, most people agree jdg was 2nd best team at worlds last year but they just ran into the tournament winner before final. With msi, there is double elim. Both blg/jdg were new team last year.
@@oreoyo5639msi is harder
@@oreoyo5639 jdg was the best team going into the tourney, they were on path to a golden road not sure how they wouldn't be the top favourites.
yeah lets keep acting that Kiin, Canyon, Lehends are rookies this year...... my man forgot how just last year JDG smack everyone when Knight and Ruler joined
Pedro is a rat for a reason.. do you think he ll stick with what he said? Lmao 😂😂
Caedrel betting his whole cathedral sponsoship on this take
I’m a little teapot
FINALLY
Do i think objectively its possible for geng to choke? No. Are they a flawless team ? For sure not - Knowing how the lpl loves to bot dive nd play aggressively if peyz and lehends cant keep up (especially considering how good of a map presence Xun has and one of my disagreements with caedrels tierlist of canyon over xun) and if ksante gets banned against Kiin and he is isnt well prepared enough it could be a horror..
Yeah people are once again glazing GenG because of their domestic dominance, then when we get to MSI it'll probably be T1 vs BLG as JDG aren't there this year. Then GenG will do well at summer and the glazing starts again until World's. We've been going through this cycle way too much. Elk and On are also going to run a train on GenG's botlane and Canyon will be fully suppressed by Xun. T1 and DK already exposed the cracks in GenG, and I have a strong feeling the LPL is going to shatter them.
@@ajaypersaud2040ok so are you stupid? What do you mean glazing domestic dominance, the only way you can rate a team going into internationals is by judging them on how they played to get there in the first place. Like what are you talking about, it’s the exact same as saying why are we glazing BLG’s domestic dominance, TES are clearly better because JKL, Meiko and Tian have won worlds. This take is so braindead, when T1 went 18-0 in Spring 2022 did you call that glazing domestic dominance because in the end they choked in the finals?
Would be funny if Chovy choke this one but win World and get finals mvp lmfao
imo the problem with geng or chovy or any other "superteam" is that they changing the roster after every year instead of keeping it together to build synergy like T1 did with Zeus oner faker guma and keria. that t1 roster didn't do well until after a good while despite having top1-3 player in every role. especially in league where games are focused around teamplay, people really down play how much synergy can affect teams at these really high level of play
T1, G2 are the only teams doing that all the other team change at least 1 or 2 players every year that how league work
@@kingslayer4346 so its better to not change much every year? Bec T1 and G2 kinda smashing it for years...G2 more domesticly but you get my point i hope
@@borusse19000 Maybe you are right but I think its more a financial, or brand problem because I agree with you but the only teams who keep players together are the biggest team of their league
my man forgot those T1 players are mostly rookies(xcept Keria and Faker) when they started and ur comparing it to a vetarans like Kiin, Canyon and Lehends who've seen a fair share of different teammates
T1 isn't superteam though. They are from the academy, they were going to zero to superstar, Zeus debut 2022, Guma 2021, Oner 2021 and Keria 2020. That is superteam for you? i dont think so. They are rookie, this roster isn't superstar at all when this roster debut. 1 GOAT and 4 rookies.
watch this be the year chovy desides to win msi
I second that! Prayge 🙏🙏🙏
Niko play 13 majors in CSGO and didnt win it cause his team failed him or because of himself playing bellow his level
There is players like that whom is insane eyetest wise but cant get the trophy in the end for many factor not their fault alone
For league players is even harder cause Riot only do 1 worlds a year and you have to be top 2 at you region to qualify for it so Chovy really compete to win with strong maters his sede in the last 4 worlds/msi give the man a break
People like to blame Chovy for underperform at internationals but seems to forget some of the most imbecily plays Faker did more than once at LCK finals on Ahri, Orianna..
Chovy looks far away from others at LCK, he makes plays, he can change the way a match was going, he could turn it around. Internationally, he doesn't do anything of that. At MSI, he did it for 1 set Vs T1 with Ahri, then after that, he just looked as a KDA player Vs BLG along with mispositions. So, it's other factors? Same like Peanut, they praise him so much, yet he's also a reason why their teams don't win. In every international tournament Chovy has never been the one people talks about in the LCK. So, international is always harder, same like Kanavi that also gets a lot of praise, yet internationally he's bad against stronger competition; Chovy is not that good.
Done deal. Geng is ready this time.
fair
Don't believe you nor Riot casters and co-streamers,
for some reason most of them are saying GEN will win this time.
If GEN lose yet again, all of you will go back to say they'll win in Summer,
just like in previous year and in the previous one and again.
Aight... T1 will put up messi 91 goal in 1 calender season in MSI
Honestly same here. I've been a Chovy lawyer, witness, judge, jury, etc since the past 3 years and with this super team if they don't atleast get top 2 on msi or worlds then i have no hopes for the future.
Like i feel so bad for him, he's consistently the best or one of the best yet he gets clowned on because he's yet to win an international. This is the year, I'm fucking calling it, give me the whole copium factory cause I'm gonna need it.
Unfortunately unless Chovy starts preforming in internationals he will always be overshadowed by better players. When talking about goats of other sports they are not just incredibly skilled which they are, they have done amazing feats often almost every time to single handily bring the X factor that helps their team win the highest tournaments not just coast and be invisible in big tournaments doing nothing.
Lck is not a big tournament then. Great analysis. Thank you for your insight xd. Where was Faker's X factor the last 4 times they lost lck finals to Chovy? Is he saving it for MSI or???
@@ojfeh LCK isnt as important as an international its only the LCK, internationals have them all from EVERY region. You are not gonna be the goat if u cant even preform against anyone from an international tournament. Imagine trying to argue someone was the goat at a sport i.e soccer while that person has never won a international tournament. You would be clowned on the second you try mention it. Bro bringing up faker? Faker has 10 LCK titles chovy has 4 no matter what metric u try bring up its pointless.
@@bellor123 For starters, you talk like Chovy lost to LEC/LCS. You legit typed "cant even preform against anyone from an international tournament", like he didn't outlcass Caps and Faker before loosing to BLG last worlds. Saying worlds contains the teams from all the regions is also disingenuous, it contains the teams from LCK and LPL, that's all that matters, the rest just get dicked every time.
AlsoIt's not an argument about who is the goat, this whole video is not about who is the goar, but rather about who is the best rn. Do you think Faker is better than Chovy rn? If not, then why are you even arguing?
"no matter what metric u try bring up its pointless" No, the most relevant metric of all, skill.
for me i feel like this time Gen will not choke not with canyon
- Kiin he can do his things nothing wrong with that
- Canyon He can covered all mistake
- Chovy He can covered all mistake w/canyon
- Peyz look under perform and what? every player can have bad split he will comeback like guma down bad msi22 and super consistent after that
- Lehends I think his champ match the meta even if he missed thing other player can covered it for him
- team coach all can stop them is meta read but back to the final spring24 game4 canyon pulled his kha'zix and gapped oner so hard (i mean its not surprised) and game5 T1 ban kha'zix let oner play his comford, not ban ksante -> gg /// this geng is more be flexible on their draft
as a non-geng fan, i have to say i cant see they will choke this time
This is the last season chovy plays at Geng
And his last chance to get international trophy
If chovy leaves Geng
I doubt that he will play consistently like before
Are you Chovy, Arnold, coaching staff, or GENG higher ups?
@@user-ot4on2he3w
Chovy renews his contact to GenG in 1 year only
I think season 15 chovy will leave geng
@@user-ot4on2he3w Gen G lost their two Main sponsor(Hyundai and Sidiv) last year due to Taiwan incident, that's gonna hurt a lot, I doubt they still have extra money to sign back Chovy if They failed to win any international this year.Until now streamers in China still saying they won't stream Gen G game for now as they crossed the red line so I think some brand maybe won't sponsor Gen G until the ban get lifted.
@@coollim8901oof that's sad
we see what happened with worlds not seeing any changes with just MSI 🤣
Imagine they choke at msi and when somehow win Worlds
I mean, Choky is not 100% of GenG, if he plays like he has been playing but his team is trolling it is what it is but if he's the one choking then yeah, international curse
Chovy should have pulled a Viper years ago:
Pick a competent LPL team, and win worlds.
And then nobody will talk shit ever again, unless they suffer brain cancer.
(I'm fully aware there are still dumbasses who shit-talk Viper even when he evidently won worlds THE VERY FIRST YEAR he went to LPL.)
I feel like chovy hasn't had the best teams till now, this team by far feels the strongest.. if he cant perform this year then.....
Not only geng choke at internationals their gameplay is often not as fun to watch as other teams and most of the team feels imo incostistent with delivering. idk I've never really been into that geng hype. Still Chovy in isolation is amazing player. MSI finals geng vs T1 would be sick game of chicken who chokes first :)
i mean geng downgreaded so blg will win
Honestly just want lck to win if geng is first seed they better perform like one just don’t want lpl to win
Chovy is overrated, Peyz is underrated and Kiin/ Canyon are the best top laner and jungler in the world.
Props to caedrel admitting lck is the best region in the world. So Chovy winning LCK automatically makes him the best player in the
world, verified lpl haters🎉🎉🎉
Knight by far the best player if u want to compare with Chovy ı am here , ı will win all competation
Uhh no. Chovy beats Knight in Laning, side push, champion pool, teamfight
Yep nobody can beat Knight akali, his invisibility lasts 4 games
Looks slightly less dominant domestically in a region with more competition but actually manages to perform internationally. Yeah taking the golden left hand over chokey any day of the week
@@sukfkdjsjd Let's wait till MSI, Chovy doesn't have the best record against the LPL, especially BLG who fathered him all series at World's
@@sukfkdjsjd Knight has one msi one MSC everyone missed also he has 2-0 against chovy 2-1 against faker and his laning slightly better than chovy , roaming better and team figting better even chovy not win lane against Chovy who has Knights son
You can tell how many geng haters and trash 1 fans in this comment secition
Faker has the same number of worlds titles as Chovy has LCK titles
Imagine if GENG actually win the MSI.
T1 fans: it's s fluke, chovy doesn't do much, kiin solo win the game, canyon solo win the game. T1 doesn't want MSI, they only care about Worlds.
Bro is arguing with ghosts xdd
Nah we'll just say that they finally conquered their own demons and maybe root for them in Worlds
Bro hate T1 by starting argument out of nowhere
MSI didn't even start lil bro. T1 rent free in your head.
Do you have a schizophrenia?
Sure,but if T1 chokes again will we finally give them title of biggest chokers of all time? And stop calling keria best supp in the worlds and their bot lane best in the world? How about that?
At least they went to almost every finals. But choky? He has never been to international final. 88848
@user-kc2nl8yv1d nobody cares if you go to finals or not. You either win ot not. And that chovy has 4 LCK titles in a row while T1 only managed to win 1 trophy in same time
@@azrrrrrrrr And that one trophy is the worlds title. Even chovy himself cares about that
Lol T1 has beaten the choker allegations by winning the biggest and most prestigious tournament of the year. When has Chovy ever beaten the international choker allegations? Show me one international tournament they were at where they didn’t perform below expectations.
@user-kc2nl8yv1d true but winning worlds doesnt delete they choked in other 5 finals. Especially when that tournament was just a patch zerk like DRX