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  • čas přidán 10. 05. 2023
  • Shiv and Tom decide to clear the air about their relationship, personally and professionally.
    The final season of Succession is airing now on HBO Max.
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  • @AA-qb7ni
    @AA-qb7ni Před rokem +5978

    This is like 4 seasons of built up anger finally projecting out. This is one of the best scenes of the series. I hope Sarah and Matthew get their well deserved Emmys.

    • @Fad80s
      @Fad80s Před rokem +81

      Seems next year will be Succession Awards featuring Emmys

    • @renelimas333
      @renelimas333 Před rokem +48

      I mean yeah they are hot and they are going to win, but better call Saul, and the disrespect they got from they Emmys is just ridiculous, their last season was maybe one the best top 10 seasons in TV history.

    • @juddmandeluxe_
      @juddmandeluxe_ Před rokem +9

      @@renelimas333 They are literally my two favourite shows and I couldn’t agree more.. let’s share the love! (Also somehow everybody lost best actor to the Squid game guy)

    • @greekarmorsports4415
      @greekarmorsports4415 Před rokem +20

      @@renelimas333 The fact either Sarah Snook or Rhea Seahorn will end these two series without an emmy is criminal.

    • @victorbinzar7126
      @victorbinzar7126 Před rokem

      what about jeremy strong?

  • @nickmenn5443
    @nickmenn5443 Před rokem +3707

    Tom’s sleep deprivation clearly added to the level of his bluntness

    • @lockekappa500
      @lockekappa500 Před rokem +265

      Yup, and I love how thy set that up for this scene to happen. Because this is NOT the Tom we know, and he even knows it after the scene ends.

    • @iorekby
      @iorekby Před rokem +100

      Tom forgot to HALT..... as in never do or decide something important when you are feeling Hungry, Angry, Lonely or Tired

    • @ryanneale6501
      @ryanneale6501 Před 8 měsíci +28

      to be fair he wanted to go to bed and shiv insisted that he stay.@@iorekby

    • @krishnawidardjo5777
      @krishnawidardjo5777 Před 7 měsíci +5

      @@iorekby This is a good tips btw. Thank you!

    • @IlikemyprivacyNN
      @IlikemyprivacyNN Před 7 měsíci +2

      This happens to me too. I felt that

  • @ryanjackson3428
    @ryanjackson3428 Před 11 měsíci +3276

    Everything they said to each other was true, but Tom ultimately understands Shiv much, much more than Shiv understands Tom, which made his insults more effective and devastating.

    • @genericallyaccepted
      @genericallyaccepted Před 11 měsíci +287

      Shiv had some good insight, but when she called him a "hick" it was complete evidence that she was reaching deep and grabbing air.

    • @chihchang1139
      @chihchang1139 Před 11 měsíci +164

      I do think Tom being an opportunist who never deserved Shiv in the first place is true. But Shiv also being a spoiled brat who doesn't deserve anybody because she just milks them for their love and then walks away is also true. He's here for power, she's here for herself.

    • @stockholmpublishings2937
      @stockholmpublishings2937 Před 10 měsíci +52

      @@chihchang1139 they're cut from the same cloth mentally, even though they are from different classes, that's why this scene is so powerful. I've fraternised with people of such and this is how they truly are. This is exactly who they are.
      Shivs there because she's insecure, a woman with daddy issues, that's seeking validation from men that wants to use her and the power that comes through her.
      Just look at every guy she's being with, they're all using her.

    • @steven7846
      @steven7846 Před 10 měsíci +120

      Well even though he's an opportunist and likes the money, at least he's always been honest about it, and I do think he meant it when he said that he loved her. He really did.
      The difference is that Tom could have been happy without the top job if Shiv had given him some love and security but she never really loved him. Tom was just an accessory and a mere tool used in some occasions to get what she wanted. No love on her side, just lies and betrayal. In the end Tom has become like her.

    • @chihchang1139
      @chihchang1139 Před 10 měsíci +16

      @@steven7846 true! this show wrote a tragedy ending through a marriage and a wedding. That's pretty special

  • @KatyWithAWhyyy
    @KatyWithAWhyyy Před rokem +4464

    "You have hurt me more than you could possibly imagine." My goodness, the very real pain on his face and in his voice. I hope this cast wins every possible award for this season.

    • @xtxpxhx
      @xtxpxhx Před rokem +55

      Reminded me of his famous proposal scene ngl

    • @lestonthompson8495
      @lestonthompson8495 Před rokem +11

      Didn't Kiera Nightly use that same line when she was talking to him playing Mr. Darcy, in Pride and Prejudice?

    • @the_jolly_bunny
      @the_jolly_bunny Před rokem +14

      ​@@lestonthompson8495 // No she didn't say that....

    • @Fleyk1707
      @Fleyk1707 Před rokem +109

      And people are saying that Tom is being a manipulative liar again and never loved Shiv in the first place. I mean, if that were true, he wouldn’t scream his heart out here.

    • @aymanbenrabah1339
      @aymanbenrabah1339 Před rokem +33

      Yup yup yup yup same opinion. that actor is so good, he deserve more attention in hollywood, he is talented

  • @BananapeelJack
    @BananapeelJack Před rokem +1731

    "...it's not my fault you didn't get his approval."
    This might be one of the most important lines in the series, none of the Roy children have been able to obtain Logan's approval and we have all been witness to the results...

    • @alexman378
      @alexman378 Před 3 měsíci +8

      One of his children did. His company.

    • @Timburton_4
      @Timburton_4 Před 3 měsíci

      Hasta cierto punto parecía que quería más a tom que a sus hijos 😂😂😂 pero es que tbm ellos no eran serios como dice logan

  • @raymondm9875
    @raymondm9875 Před rokem +919

    "I have given you endless approval....but it doesn't fill you up because you're broken" 😭😭😭

    • @Skietemart
      @Skietemart Před rokem +79

      That line holds so much truth and value. It hits.

    • @michaelotis223
      @michaelotis223 Před 11 měsíci +24

      I know a lot of nice guys who felt seen in that moment!

    • @requiem51
      @requiem51 Před 4 měsíci +7

      BPD is a harsh mistress

    • @gabios7075
      @gabios7075 Před 4 měsíci +1

      I felt that

    • @kodyn7224
      @kodyn7224 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@michaelotis223 Shhhhhhhh

  • @BatmanHQYT
    @BatmanHQYT Před rokem +4219

    The tragedy of this scene for me was how Shiv simply cannot fathom that Tom genuinely loved her, because she's been raised to believe she herself is not capable of being loved. There *must* be some ulterior motive, because as much as that would hurt, it would make more sense to her. Sincerity is highly distrusted in the Roy family, since they've been raised by liars. The fact that so much of Shiv's argument in this scene comes from that place is what makes this scene equally sad for her as it is for Tom, who is of course 100% correct about everything he's saying.

    • @ViiZiiOnZ915
      @ViiZiiOnZ915 Před rokem +478

      Tom hit the nail on the head when he said "I'm sorry you didn't earn his approval. I have given you ENDLESS approval but it doesn't fill you up because you're broken." Saying she's broken is kind of taking it too far, but he's spot on saying her huge Logan-shaped hole isn't easily filled or wasn't filled by him which is so sad cause he genuinely does love her

    • @widowswail888
      @widowswail888 Před rokem +160

      100%. Tom actually manifested that fear in to reality by betraying Shiv and admitted to being with Shiv because of her name. While I don’t think she “deserved” it as much as she was a victim of years of emotional abuse which brought a cycle of traumas to her as a person and her relationship with others. At the same time, it is tragic (but it makes sense) that she can’t see that and take responsibility for her faults as well.

    • @mojo.s4669
      @mojo.s4669 Před rokem +217

      @An0n3mu55 What are you talking about? This show is sub-textually about toxic family dynamics and how it manifests in the 1%. The whole premise of the show is Shakespearean and rooted in the characters moving the narrative and not the other way around. So shiv being spoiled and getting everything has absolutely nothing to do with the point. The point is all the Roy siblings are fundamentally broken people, regardless of class.
      Just because someone is financially stable doesn’t mean they don’t have struggles in other aspects of life. I grew up very poor but had a very close and loving family, and that has impacted how I see love and the relationships I pursue.

    • @iside2373
      @iside2373 Před rokem +121

      ​@David have you been watching this show with your eyes closed? This whole show is about childhood trauma and how Logan psychological and physical abuse has effected the kids now into adulthood.

    • @iside2373
      @iside2373 Před rokem +105

      @David With all due respect yes there is something wrong with you.
      He didnt give them everything,material thing ,vacations yes but not even an ounce of the emotional aspect. There is difference in not being a good parent and being an abusive, emotionally absent one. They're delusional because he was the one who groomed them think this way.
      And it's honestly so funny how you say Shiv backstab everyone but you don't even understand the main theme of the story which is generational trauma..

  • @Andre_APM
    @Andre_APM Před 4 měsíci +492

    This is the scene that won them both Emmys

    • @danamoss5705
      @danamoss5705 Před 4 měsíci +5

      No doubt

    • @zyonhenderson67
      @zyonhenderson67 Před 4 měsíci +18

      100% Acting so good you gotta remind yourself their acting

    • @RicardoRodriguez-mw7be
      @RicardoRodriguez-mw7be Před 4 měsíci +10

      And Sarah's laugh when Kendall said ''I am the eldest BOY''

    • @damiensteele7300
      @damiensteele7300 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Absolutely

    • @MattWeisherComposer
      @MattWeisherComposer Před 3 měsíci +6

      Yes, this was their Emmy scene. Good choice on both of their parts. I don’t think people know how awards season works. They both submitted this scene to be considered for the Emmy. And it worked!

  • @SaberRexZealot
    @SaberRexZealot Před rokem +911

    Tom calling Shiv broken and Shiv blaming Tom for her father’s death hit especially hard. Those are things real people actually say to each other in the heat of the moment.

    • @12wer3wer9
      @12wer3wer9 Před rokem +25

      Broken people do that yeah. It's so interesting to watch the underlying psychology at play here. Great acting too, wow!

    • @RH-vw7og
      @RH-vw7og Před 11 měsíci

      Real people are broken, it’s only the liberal upper middle class virtue signallers (many of whom watch this show and like to pontificate) who pretend they’re not.

    • @johnpark7972
      @johnpark7972 Před 5 měsíci +3

      And of course, blaming others is easier path, and what shiv would say

    • @thecousinbellic
      @thecousinbellic Před 28 dny

      Yeah, tell me about it.

  • @TihetrisWeathersby
    @TihetrisWeathersby Před rokem +2333

    This was such a powerful scene, Matthew and Sarah deserve all the awards for this

    • @TESkyrimizer
      @TESkyrimizer Před rokem +39

      one oscar for every time Matthew makes a hand gesture

    • @ReprucssionsForever
      @ReprucssionsForever Před 5 měsíci +6

      They did …

    • @DrumAdrian16
      @DrumAdrian16 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Who is Matthew and Sarah? I only know Tom and Shiv. 😂
      just kidding

  • @d.1265
    @d.1265 Před rokem +310

    "you're too transparent to find in a book" wow that hurt

    • @causticgastrap2835
      @causticgastrap2835 Před rokem +10

      I’m a little slow can you explain that comment to me

    • @Mike-mb1yf
      @Mike-mb1yf Před rokem +56

      @@causticgastrap2835as in you’re not as complex or as nuanced of a character to understand aka ‘read’ like how you read people and read a book
      Implying she’s- one dimensional/easy to read/transparent

    • @causticgastrap2835
      @causticgastrap2835 Před rokem +2

      @@Mike-mb1yf thanks

  • @Apretadito
    @Apretadito Před rokem +1187

    That gesture when Tom says "broken" is just brilliant

    • @Upsallauniversity123
      @Upsallauniversity123 Před rokem +23

      Emmy 😂😂

    • @jlasf
      @jlasf Před 11 měsíci +10

      I wonder if an action like that was created by the writers, the director or the actor at that moment. It's so telling.

    • @JamieCant
      @JamieCant Před 10 měsíci +17

      @@jlasfdon’t think it was in the script so it might well have been improvised

    • @mrgirthy2111
      @mrgirthy2111 Před 9 měsíci +6

      At that moment she was defeated

    • @danamoss5705
      @danamoss5705 Před 5 měsíci +3

      No doubt improvised. Brilliant

  • @ltils9081
    @ltils9081 Před rokem +507

    Such complexity, truly an outstanding scene. You can see how deep Tom's comment about Shiv not being a good person to have children hits her. She never wanted children, scared she'd end up like her mother and her children would end up like her, now she finds herself pregnant and the father says out loud quite venomously what she's been thinking about herself all along.

    • @lepythagore3288
      @lepythagore3288 Před rokem +30

      And... they end up together after all the things they've said and done to each other and Shiv seems to become Caroline. For three seasons Succession had been at the top of its game but for season 4 it literally felt unstoppable. Truly one of a kind.

    • @GCNMMA
      @GCNMMA Před 5 měsíci +5

      @@lepythagore3288Shiv becoming Caroline is some of the best poetic Justice I’ve ever seen

    • @TheJSpiegel
      @TheJSpiegel Před dnem

      Not unnoticed was when Caroline saw Shiv for the first time in a while, before she was pregnant.
      The quick glance, look, you can almost miss it, and then a deep sigh “Well then!”

  • @robo2000nitro
    @robo2000nitro Před rokem +1199

    They both killed this scene - I just loved how finally we get the raw emotional reaction from 2 characters. No more of the tip toeing around the problems with satirical comments and whimsical jokes. I feel there is a few other characters that also need scenes like this.

    • @BatmanHQYT
      @BatmanHQYT Před rokem +56

      I feel like Roman's version of this is on its way with his eulogy for Logan. I'm kinda shocked he even offered to give the speech - I think he has yet to realize what it will require of him emotionally.

    • @emilal
      @emilal Před 11 měsíci +20

      @@BatmanHQYT you called it

    • @sasori962008
      @sasori962008 Před 5 měsíci +5

      ​@@BatmanHQYTbravo

    • @johannascott1593
      @johannascott1593 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Yes. The show needed this scene

  • @justinjones2601
    @justinjones2601 Před rokem +1491

    The facial acting is INCREDIBLE
    1:20 Shiv's shock at Tom's screaming, which quickly switches when she thinks of something to say in return
    1:46 Tom realizing what he is about to say crosses a line, but it's too late to stop himself
    1:50 Shiv genuinely hurt by Tom saying she wouldn't be a good person to have children

    • @tarunchunna
      @tarunchunna Před rokem +185

      1:46 absolutely spot-on. I noticed this in my second of the MANY viewing of this confrontation. It’s almost like someone pulling their punches… Tom knew he would knock out Shiv with this line and hesitated for a full second but then decided to go through with it. Season 1-3 Tom would’ve never said something like this but I guess this is what infidelity, constant humiliation, disregard for feelings and your very humanity does to a person

    • @justthetwoofus.
      @justthetwoofus. Před rokem +40

      Have to agree x10. I’d go as far to say it’s one of the best scenes I’ve seen in any show ever, really. It’s so emotionally loaded and the acting is so overwhelming I had to pause it on my phone after watching it the first time to just let it sink in a bit. And it’s also crazy that while I liked this episode it wasn’t especially amazing until the last 10-15 minutes or so including this and the Matsson and Kendall scene which was also a pretty fantastic scene. Just give them all the awards.

    • @MarkElders
      @MarkElders Před rokem +28

      At 1:20, I also wondered if Shiv got worried for a brief second that Tom knew she was pregnant. Shiv keeps drinking alcohol every episode; it seems like she in fact won't have his baby.

    • @heckromancer382
      @heckromancer382 Před rokem +23

      @@MarkElders She’s not knocking back glasses, she’s taking sips (at most) of single glasses. They’re keeping up the ambiguity.

    • @AlbertoFolres
      @AlbertoFolres Před rokem +2

      The actors reading your comment: 😐 yeah, that's exactly what we planned 😅

  • @veragrig8645
    @veragrig8645 Před rokem +82

    "I gave you endless approval but it doesn't fill you, cause you're broken."
    - Tom Wambsgans

    • @g7924
      @g7924 Před měsícem

      No one wants approval from someone they don’t respect

  • @ozertayiz
    @ozertayiz Před 2 měsíci +24

    That line " I gave you endless approval, and it doesn't fill you up because you're broken." summarizes narcissism of Shiv so well.

  • @TheNearFantastica
    @TheNearFantastica Před měsícem +25

    The writing of this scene is so powerful. How she runs out of comebacks after he delivers the most painful part.

  • @debitaradutta4376
    @debitaradutta4376 Před rokem +629

    Playing Tom Wambsgans would be any Actor's dream role. Myriad of emotions from start to end in one single episode only. And it goes without saying that no one could have perfected Tom except Matthew Macfadyen. He is just an incredible actor. Hope to see him holding his 2nd Emmy soon.

    • @sarahbgln
      @sarahbgln Před rokem +27

      I think he was born to play Tom. It shows the true range and depth he has, I bet even Matthew didn't even know he could possess 🩵

    • @bcent5758
      @bcent5758 Před rokem +14

      I think he has always been a great actor, this part just introduced him to an American audience.

    • @debitaradutta4376
      @debitaradutta4376 Před rokem +9

      ​@@bcent5758 Well, am an Indian and I have been his ardent admirer long before Succession, ever since I watched him in Pride & Prejudice, some 10 years ago. Am truly very happy for him for all the recognition he is getting with Succession.

    • @Upsallauniversity123
      @Upsallauniversity123 Před rokem +4

      ​@@debitaradutta4376I am also an Indian. Succession is my 2nd hbo's show after GOT. I was a big fan of matthew when i watched pride and prejudice during pandemic ( too late !!!😂😂)

    • @15Candles
      @15Candles Před 11 měsíci +6

      @@bcent5758 Uh no, Pride and Prejudice gave Matthew a global recognition. And yet he was still underrated at that time eventhough most people love him in Pride and Prejudice

  • @Missjunebugfreak
    @Missjunebugfreak Před rokem +959

    Tom finally standing up to Shiv and saying everything that's been brewing up inside him for a while is so satisfying. This scene really is remarkable.

  • @bippityboppity6969
    @bippityboppity6969 Před 18 dny +6

    Might be my favorite scene in the whole show tbh

  • @The_Knight_Mayor
    @The_Knight_Mayor Před rokem +210

    "You really kept me safe while you ran off to f*** the phone book"
    Cracked me right up.

  • @dsingman3
    @dsingman3 Před 9 měsíci +650

    I love the line "you never deserved me" because she's saying it from a place of superiority, but it's still true because Tom didn't deserve to be mistreated and strung along by a narcissist.

    • @Upsallauniversity123
      @Upsallauniversity123 Před 9 měsíci +48

      Shiv doesn't deserve tom 😂

    • @mac19999x
      @mac19999x Před 5 měsíci +32

      No, Tom deserves it. He mistreats everyone he has power over. Everyone.

    • @shaokhan4421
      @shaokhan4421 Před 5 měsíci +10

      I think that’s what makes the show good because there’s so many angles to each character but it’s also the father’s fault because that’s what he said to her that she could do better than him, but she settled with him

    • @iOakie
      @iOakie Před 5 měsíci +13

      Are you insane? Shiv is literally the worst character/sibling out of all of them. @@Upsallauniversity123

    • @victorugo3875
      @victorugo3875 Před 4 měsíci +2

      ​@@iOakieI think that's what they mean when they say she doesn't deserve him lol. They didn't say "Tom doesn't deserve Shiv."

  • @CriticalJoe
    @CriticalJoe Před 10 měsíci +318

    She was so right when she said he never deserved her. He deserved a looooooot better.

    • @margarethmichelina5146
      @margarethmichelina5146 Před 2 měsíci +38

      That's right, he does not deserve her, he deserves Greg.

    • @annkey4091
      @annkey4091 Před měsícem +6

      Tom Wambsgans got what his concerns of money and desire for "nice" things earned him. When a man goes the "First, I look at the purse" route when dealing with a rich woman, this is what you sometimes get.

    • @g7924
      @g7924 Před měsícem +4

      This is what I mean, he used her for her money from the beginning but she’s the bad guy and he deserves better cuz she slept with someone else. Lol ok

    • @Majkels
      @Majkels Před 29 dny +3

      Shiv is exactly what someone like Tom deserved
      It's almost poetic

    • @zizi5721
      @zizi5721 Před 25 dny +1

      And someone deserves a backstabbing social climber?

  • @soniac48
    @soniac48 Před 3 měsíci +32

    "You don't deserve me, you never did. And everything came out of that." A line that encapsulates the tension in their relationship succinctly! Even though there are instances where he displays real feelings for her, he also 'does' use her as a ladder. Brutal stuff.

    • @luiscortes3374
      @luiscortes3374 Před 19 dny +1

      I think you’re wrong. He always wanted to get to the top with her but later on he also said to forget everything and have a fresh start somewhere else. She just isn’t capable of loving and caring or be loved and cared for because of her childhood

  • @catharbin6259
    @catharbin6259 Před 5 měsíci +165

    They both won Emmy’s for this episode

  • @MSimp2k6
    @MSimp2k6 Před rokem +403

    I think most of the things they said were totally true and deserved. The thing for Shiv is that she's never heard it articulated. People criticise and mock Tom constantly -- he knows his place and is happy to muddle along with no dignity as long as he can cling to power & money. Shiv though? She's the daughter of Logan Roy. Nobody tells her the truth or criticises her.

    • @Zoe-fd8ll
      @Zoe-fd8ll Před 23 dny

      Um no? Have you heard how much Logan criticizes and mocks his children

  • @laughingwarlock
    @laughingwarlock Před rokem +544

    I love how every nasty thing they both said about each other is 100% true. Shiv and Tom were right about everything they said. This is a couples argument where there were no winners. Just mutually assured destruction.

    • @pwnateh
      @pwnateh Před rokem +66

      When she said he doesn't deserve her, I thought it was the other way around (:

    • @ryanjackson3428
      @ryanjackson3428 Před 11 měsíci +18

      I dunno about the "your mom loves me more than she loves you" line.

    • @browniebear
      @browniebear Před 9 měsíci +76

      ​@@pwnatehExactly, Tom was speaking from authenticity (observations he wishes weren't true) while Shiv spoke from insecurity (preconceptions she claims as true). She wasn't nearly as accurate in her observations as Tom. She was trying to poison his well while he was holding up a mirror so she could face her own reflection. It's a tragic scene.

    • @BEE-rg4ts
      @BEE-rg4ts Před 8 měsíci +5

      Mutually assured destruction is the most beautifully poignant thing to be said about their relationship

    • @louisb5766
      @louisb5766 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Idk about offering to go to jail line, felt more like it was bait, shiv at times lied cuz she couldn’t handle what was being said about her

  • @rwh1818
    @rwh1818 Před rokem +153

    He said "love" in the present tense.
    Also, Shiv did go to her dad (on the yacht) and made him promise not to sacrifice Tom; Logan sacrificed Kendall, instead.
    Perhaps underneath it all, they *do* love each other. Shiv was broken, from awful parenting, and didn't know how to recognize or accept real love. She sabatoges the progress of their relationship.
    Getting "for real" close to someone can be murky, raw, and terrifying.

    • @TeslaAI
      @TeslaAI Před 11 měsíci +7

      Am
      Fantastic point. I wish Shiv had brought that up when Tom said she betrayed him. But then again, Shiv said nothing when Nan Pierce conditioned the deal on Tom being removed from ATN.

    • @ericperu1542
      @ericperu1542 Před 9 měsíci +10

      I do believe she loved him but love has always been a thing to mock in her family and she was unable to see it as anything other than a weakness.

    • @CustomFitted
      @CustomFitted Před 15 dny

      I mean, given how poorly Shiv treated Tom, she does have a point that he stayed with her because of who she is and the benefits.
      Like, how can you "love" someone that doesn't value you and cheats on you?

  • @trinaq
    @trinaq Před rokem +720

    If Matthew and Sarah aren't nominated for any Emmys for this scene alone, then I'll be genuinely shocked!

    • @jurney3478
      @jurney3478 Před rokem +11

      Matthew definitely is. But Snook has several episodes she could submit and win with. Hoping she submits this episode though. My MVP this season.

    • @rebelfriend1818
      @rebelfriend1818 Před rokem +10

      @@jurney3478 Snook has to win. She hasn't won yet and who exactly is gonna win over her? She's got the season finale buff on a critic favourite show

    • @Comfortably-Dumb
      @Comfortably-Dumb Před rokem +8

      @Rebel Friend Rhea Seehorn for Better Call Saul also fits all of the above, but I’m becoming increasingly torn over which of the two I’d prefer to win

    • @AA-qb7ni
      @AA-qb7ni Před rokem +1

      @@jurney3478 most of the cast definitely will!! Hope Sarah wins tho. She hasn't and that's crazy but she has killed it in every season.

    • @jurney3478
      @jurney3478 Před rokem

      @@rebelfriend1818 I never said she wasn't gonna win. I fully believe she'll win, especially now that she's away from Jennifer Coolidge. I'm saying she has a plethora of content to choose from for her episode submission for the award.

  • @patriciajenner9589
    @patriciajenner9589 Před 3 měsíci +33

    I have lost count of many times I have watched this clip. Its an absolute masterclass in acting. Its rawest, most honest possibly conversation between to 2 people who have hurt each other’s endlessly, up to the point of cruelty which almost makes it impossible to watch. The writing is perfect, the acting is perfect and setting too is precisely right. Its a the type of conversation you don’t want to be part of and yet desperately want to hear every word of. Truly masterful.

  • @lazaromurad322
    @lazaromurad322 Před rokem +335

    I love how everyone inside were so polite they decided to ignore the yelling from outside so they could both wripp each other to death, they were all drinking Tom´s fine wine, class act.

    • @amirparsi4165
      @amirparsi4165 Před rokem +46

      I convinced myself that the door/windows are soundproof

    • @jerry85g7
      @jerry85g7 Před rokem +6

      They couldn't hear them.

    • @emjay5983
      @emjay5983 Před rokem +24

      @@amirparsi4165 well in that kind of place they would be to avoid city/traffic noise. We're not talking about some cheap apt. here!

  • @umutardadincoglu2083
    @umutardadincoglu2083 Před rokem +176

    this is going down as one of the best tv couple fight scenes of all time

  • @BigTeix
    @BigTeix Před 4 měsíci +15

    “It’s not my fault you didn’t get his approval”
    Tom….you’ve killed her

  • @noble_experiment
    @noble_experiment Před rokem +105

    The worst part is “you’re not a good person to have children”, him saying she can’t be a good mother in general, no tthat he doesn’t want to have children *with* her. And her saying he doesn’t deserve her. Repressed pain and anger that we saw starting to boil since her mom’s wedding episode, coming back to hunt them both.

    • @cynb3502
      @cynb3502 Před rokem +10

      And he says it not knowing she is pregnant.

  • @Anukii
    @Anukii Před rokem +206

    I legit stopped breathing watching this scene, this scene was STUNNING. We knew this was always quietly rumbling among the smiles & awkwardness. But wow, it finally came out & I am stunned

  • @filmtoppings
    @filmtoppings Před rokem +59

    "You're maybe not a good person to have children" you can see how deep that hits Shiv. Sarah Snook is owed an Emmy

  • @Outsider.X
    @Outsider.X Před 4 měsíci +24

    The music of Succession is just so magnificently beautiful

  • @kali_uchis7635
    @kali_uchis7635 Před rokem +123

    I love that you can hear Sarah and Matthew’s accents come out towards the end. It adds such a raw element. You can see them both get so into the thick of the scene and into the heat of the moment. I hope they both walk home with Emmy’s in September because both of their work is incredible. I couldn’t imagine anyone else playing Shiv and Tom

    • @theeleanorshellstrop
      @theeleanorshellstrop Před 10 měsíci +4

      I wholeheartedly agree. they were perfect from the get-go

    • @MrBmick79
      @MrBmick79 Před 3 měsíci +2

      heard it too. glad you mentioned it

  • @BingBong422
    @BingBong422 Před 5 měsíci +50

    This is the scene that won them both Emmys. Much deserved

  • @sadisticwinter8354
    @sadisticwinter8354 Před 4 měsíci +23

    I can't tell you how many times i've watched this. I even know all Tom's lines. Such great dialogue.

  • @juanruzmartell247
    @juanruzmartell247 Před 7 měsíci +41

    This scene is an acting masterclass. Every gesture, every movement and mannerism of each character gives more verisimilitude to the scene.

  • @marianamendes3425
    @marianamendes3425 Před 4 měsíci +15

    2:51 When Shiv begins her speech by wanting to hurt Tom and says "you don't deserve me and you never did", the hatred that Sarah Snook puts into this line soon breaks into sadness when she says "and everything came out of that", remembering everything that happened, the death of her father, Tom's betrayal, the loss of her marriage... What an acting masterclass!

  • @rickiek
    @rickiek Před 4 měsíci +29

    This entire scene won them both their Emmys this year.

  • @andreaencarnacion1646
    @andreaencarnacion1646 Před 22 dny +3

    I am here and its been a year later :( BEST SHOW EVER!!!!

  • @niklasra669
    @niklasra669 Před 11 měsíci +75

    This scene really felt cathartic in a way. For four seasons all we saw were treacherous opportunists who backstabbed each other at any given chance. And this moment of raw pure honest human emotion really blew me away. Just amazing acting and writing!

    • @etsisk
      @etsisk Před 5 měsíci

      What kills me is y'all have apparently watched 4 seasons of treacherous people backstabbing each other. I just don't see how that helps y'all in any way whatsoever.

    • @0FFICERPROBLEM
      @0FFICERPROBLEM Před 5 měsíci

      @@etsisk It's just hard to watch the first few episodes. Then you get invested and can't look away from the ongoing trainwreck, so to speak.
      It 'helps' because: examining incredibly destructive, broken people is important. The show is about generational trauma at heart.

  • @georgebruhn2958
    @georgebruhn2958 Před měsícem +7

    I've watched this clip so many times I've lost count, and it never gets old. I love the acting in this scene so much, and all they conveyed both verbally (while maintaining their American accents) and non-verbally. I think this should be something that is standard to be shown in theatre/film classes.
    How this is show that nobody I know irl has seen other than my mother is very frustrating.

  • @siphillis
    @siphillis Před 6 měsíci +69

    The genius of "Succession" is that 99% of the dialogue is snappy one-liners and lies, but that 1% where characters finally speak the truth is utterly heartbreaking every single time.

  • @BiffyC
    @BiffyC Před rokem +224

    The scene after this where Tom gets everyone to leave the party was one of the most heartbreaking scenes on tv.

    • @tkane6168
      @tkane6168 Před rokem +7

      Wdym it was funny

    • @cynb3502
      @cynb3502 Před rokem +28

      It was that awkward embarrassment when dirty laundry has been unintentionally waved in public.

    • @ng2603
      @ng2603 Před 10 měsíci

      "Night, Tom."

  • @hellfish2309
    @hellfish2309 Před rokem +347

    The writers are clearly accomplished wordsmiths churning out clever quips and clapbacks, but most of this is simply direct and invites the actors to dance instead of programming fancy verbal choreography

    • @Missjunebugfreak
      @Missjunebugfreak Před rokem +23

      Beautifully said. This scene works so well because of the excellent dialogue and the powerful acting. It's a masterclass.

    • @BatmanHQYT
      @BatmanHQYT Před rokem +42

      Yeah, the directness of this scene felt incredibly earned after four seasons of doublespeak and coded language. The characters' fear of intimacy is baked into most of the dialogue, so the earnest moments hit like a train to the face.

    • @michaelotis223
      @michaelotis223 Před 11 měsíci +2

      "Fancy verbal choreography"
      *Aaron Sorkin left the group chat*

    • @hellfish2309
      @hellfish2309 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@michaelotis223 Sorkin is more combative, so like fight choreography, though of course still fancy and coordinated; I feel like Jesse Armstrong is more like a gymnastics floor routine, like the “ta-da!” is baked in

  • @15Candles
    @15Candles Před 5 měsíci +39

    Ladies and gentlemen, we finally did it! These two talented actors are now Emmy Winners. Congratulations to Sarah, Matthew and everybody else involved in this masterpiece! 🥰

  • @Deletaste
    @Deletaste Před rokem +192

    Unironically one of the most intense scenes I've ever watched in a TV show.

    • @NicholasMartinez-vt5ux
      @NicholasMartinez-vt5ux Před rokem +3

      Negan scene from walking dead where he hits main character with bat.

    • @ruebenvoyageur8149
      @ruebenvoyageur8149 Před 10 měsíci +2

      Breaking Bad’s One Minute episode, True Detective’s Who Goes There episode

    • @cgreen6369
      @cgreen6369 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Check out the films Ingmar Bergman's Scenes from a Marriage, and Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?

  • @cockroachv
    @cockroachv Před rokem +93

    End of season 3 made me think this relationship was over. But after Logan died, they looked like they were coming back there. This scene killed everything.

  • @feliups
    @feliups Před měsícem +8

    I’m obsessed with that scene

  • @br0wn3y3db01
    @br0wn3y3db01 Před 5 měsíci +9

    They're both not American, yet are having a heated full blown argument with perfect accents. So glad they both won Emmys 😊

  • @quisge
    @quisge Před rokem +87

    This scene is so visceral, I feel like I experienced this fight personally, and I think in a way I did, and this captured that so intensely that every time I watch it I'm brought to tears again. So intense and so real. Bravo.

  • @Briannaf57
    @Briannaf57 Před rokem +47

    Never thought I would ever feel bad for Tom till this scene. The part after their argument when he tells everyone to go home was heartbreaking.

  • @stygiantwst
    @stygiantwst Před rokem +12

    "You dont deserve me and you never did" Could be true in the sense that he didnt deserve to love someone who treated him like an afterthought.

  • @frankmurdock2121
    @frankmurdock2121 Před 11 měsíci +31

    I was mesmerized by Matt’s acting throughout this entire show. Incredibly underrated actor

  • @davidhurtado2725
    @davidhurtado2725 Před měsícem +6

    One of the best written/filmed/acted scenes ever.

  •  Před 3 měsíci +10

    I rewatch this scene every month or so. This is bar none some of the most amazing acting I've ever seen.

  • @shawncarter5434
    @shawncarter5434 Před rokem +209

    Sarah and Matthew gave phenomenal performances in this episode

  • @hazelnorewood7782
    @hazelnorewood7782 Před 11 měsíci +25

    This, ladies and gentlemen, is what great TV is. Extremely well written and acted amazingly by Matthew and Sarah.

  • @LexiKnight
    @LexiKnight Před měsícem +4

    Gosh this is one of the best scenes in the entire series. Great dialogue and acting from 2 amazing actors.

  • @jedn2006
    @jedn2006 Před měsícem +7

    This clip is vicious.. I have seen it like 50 times

  • @CluelessIndianGamer
    @CluelessIndianGamer Před 8 měsíci +18

    Congratulations to the writers of this episode of Succession but also sending you hugs and comfort for whatever real relationship problems gave you access to those brutal, ferocious insights and I hope you're doing okay!

  • @benzo9059
    @benzo9059 Před rokem +56

    Genuinely one of the best scenes of TV I've ever seen. This has been an incredible final series, it's always been a great show but it's reached god tier in the last few weeks.

  • @ignitionSoldier
    @ignitionSoldier Před rokem +20

    This is a master class in acting. One of the best drama scenes I've ever seen. The camera work and music are perfect as well.

  • @akshatavalsangkar3561
    @akshatavalsangkar3561 Před rokem +13

    “Clear the air”
    The air in question filled with the most horrendous personal attacks destroying two people: …

  • @TheGentlemanGamer
    @TheGentlemanGamer Před 10 měsíci +21

    A perfect scene perfectly played. Something that really conveys the realism of a fight like this is how trivial, bugging elements like the "undrinkable wine" get thrown in as ammunition. It's very much a "And you never empty the dishwasher!" argument.

  • @ed-edd-n-eddy
    @ed-edd-n-eddy Před rokem +81

    Phenomenal scene. This was painfully beautiful.

  • @fatihkokceoglu9438
    @fatihkokceoglu9438 Před 8 měsíci +20

    Wasn't expecting this scene, came out of nowhere and hit me like a train

  • @userdilyara25678
    @userdilyara25678 Před 3 měsíci +7

    I’m gonna tell my kids this was the confession scene from pride and prejudice

  • @allys744
    @allys744 Před 4 měsíci +4

    I like how, at the end of the argument, all they can say now is “I don’t like you” and “You don’t deserve me”
    All the hurtful things are out of the way, now they’re emotionally grappling with the bombshells

  • @aeh5109
    @aeh5109 Před 2 měsíci +9

    This is just amazing acting

  • @Nationlivid
    @Nationlivid Před rokem +91

    The catharsis from this convo was legendary. Years of buildup where the understood was unspoken and festering all leading up to this raw explosion.

  • @GearTwistGaming
    @GearTwistGaming Před rokem +37

    Watched this scene twice during the episode and have clicked it every time it pops up on CZcams. Still hasn't got old.

    • @michaelwooters5837
      @michaelwooters5837 Před rokem +3

      It's been less than a week since it aired. I certainly hope not. 😄

  • @ericperu1542
    @ericperu1542 Před 8 měsíci +13

    The end when she was like "I don't like you and never have" Tom must have been thinking "I know that, have you not heard a single thing I've just said?"

    • @big_2361
      @big_2361 Před 2 hodinami

      it's a classic woman moment

  • @norrinzelkarr8572
    @norrinzelkarr8572 Před 7 měsíci +11

    The great thing about this acting is that you can see the little moments where they know they are going too far, and they keep going anyway

  • @maxsch8454
    @maxsch8454 Před 29 dny +2

    Tom summed her up perfectly, and she knows it

  • @DynterS
    @DynterS Před 2 měsíci +5

    Perfect acting and writing.

  • @Nttyhu
    @Nttyhu Před rokem +91

    2:38 Tom finally realised that shiv is essentially just a grown abused child, who resorts to malice as a defence tactic. 3 minutes is the point that even Shiv herself realised she doesn’t believe the things she’s saying, hence the bork from her. Very sad and shows that wealth does not shield children from abuse. Beautiful scene.

    • @rohunsaigal2576
      @rohunsaigal2576 Před rokem +22

      He’s so used to her having her guard up with sarcastic quips he didn’t expect to hit her this deep to the point where she became an incoherent mess

  • @jcbetancourt1214
    @jcbetancourt1214 Před 26 dny +3

    Tom went off

  • @grsn90
    @grsn90 Před 23 dny +2

    This really made me cry, they hate each other so much and they don't need to.

  • @kayx1340
    @kayx1340 Před rokem +16

    Tom offering to go to prison was a trust game that went wrong.
    I've known couples where one person will offer to do something difficult or painful for themselves or friends, knowing that their partner loves them and will chivalrously step in to prevent them.
    The person offering is allowed to look generous and noble, in the certainty that they'll never be asked to follow through.
    Tom played the game but Shiv didn't openly step in, so he was left feeling vulnerable and unloved.

  • @sasori962008
    @sasori962008 Před 5 měsíci +14

    Who came here again to watch this masterpiece after they both won an Emmy and a golden globe

  • @iamsophiehannah988
    @iamsophiehannah988 Před 5 měsíci +19

    The scene that won both of them the Emmys 🙌🏾👏🏾

  • @Bossladylj
    @Bossladylj Před rokem +13

    This was the most powerful scene of all seasons. They both deserved Academy Awards for this scene. I am glad “woosey” Tom finally got the nerve to tell Shiv who she really is . . . BROKEN!!!

  • @urbanhero
    @urbanhero Před rokem +39

    One of the greatest scenes in contemporary television

  • @titasbhattacharyya
    @titasbhattacharyya Před rokem +45

    Give all the Emmys to Matthew and Sarah

  • @JaocbBond
    @JaocbBond Před 5 měsíci +10

    The most realistic fight I’ve ever seen in film or television

  • @paulisthelegend
    @paulisthelegend Před rokem +28

    One of the greatest scenes of all time. Blows me away every time I watch it

  • @themikeygshow1271
    @themikeygshow1271 Před 2 měsíci +6

    This scene is amazing on its own but the ending makes it among the best in tv history

  • @danamoss5705
    @danamoss5705 Před 5 měsíci +5

    Uggghh, the look of pain on his face towards the end. 💔

  • @mazizazi8412
    @mazizazi8412 Před rokem +40

    Tom won this one, jeez. Brutal. Went over the line but it was long overdue. Amazing dialogue and acting

    • @g7924
      @g7924 Před měsícem

      No one won lol are you 10?

    • @big_2361
      @big_2361 Před hodinou

      @@g7924tom def won this one lil bud

  • @decard01
    @decard01 Před rokem +28

    Shivs malignant narcissism on full display here she’s definitely the most like Logan all her relationships are transactional.

  • @euthyphr0
    @euthyphr0 Před rokem +48

    honestly this scene felt so cathartic, all the passive aggressiveness of the last four season finally resolved

  • @jaykdos9521
    @jaykdos9521 Před 5 měsíci +6

    This scene is just the definition of the word "acting."

  • @blemieux6789
    @blemieux6789 Před rokem +9

    “Because your broken”
    I felt broken after he said this 😢😢😢
    One of the best scenes of Succession bar none

  • @partycitydumpster
    @partycitydumpster Před rokem +23

    "you are incapable of love"
    (30 seconds later)
    "I dont like you. I dont even care about you."
    Shiv you cant play that card now, he knows!!!