How Altering Shigure Changed EVERYTHING | Fruits Basket | BriThi

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  • čas přidán 26. 08. 2024
  • If you haven't seen the original and the remake of Fruits Basket then you know how truly different these two versions are. A big part that affected this changed was the personality shift of Shigure Sohma. I want to explain to you how this change altered everything!
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Komentáře • 941

  • @BriThi
    @BriThi  Před 4 lety +106

    If you enjoyed this video then I highly recommend you check out another in depth analysis like this except on Kyo's two FATHERS! Thanks for checking this out :)
    czcams.com/video/DpDvGhLc964/video.html

  • @kimberly472
    @kimberly472 Před 4 lety +4968

    “Is he lying to them or telling the truth?”
    Yes.

    • @BriThi
      @BriThi  Před 4 lety +118

      So vague you are haha. Thanks for commenting Kimberly :)

    • @SakiBlablabla
      @SakiBlablabla Před 4 lety +34

      Yes indeed 😂

    • @PianoGirl091
      @PianoGirl091 Před 4 lety +130

      LOL. As someone who has read the manga twice, I can say that this comment is absolutely, 100 percent accurate. 😂

    • @jewelweed6880
      @jewelweed6880 Před 4 lety +2

      Hey, it's Kosh! Succinct as always.

    • @TygrasKittenKori
      @TygrasKittenKori Před 4 lety +4

      i'd say a mixture of both!

  • @Flummoxyn
    @Flummoxyn Před 4 lety +1733

    Shigure is straight up chaotic neutral, he's on the side that interests or benefits himself or his goals

    • @silentshadow3894
      @silentshadow3894 Před 4 lety +23

      i think he is sort of a cross between chaotic neutral and chaotic good but yeah probably leaning more towards neutral.

    • @skullsquad900
      @skullsquad900 Před 3 lety +30

      No, he's True Neutral.
      Chaotic, would imply he doesn't put thought into it and randomly decides on a whim...he's obviously playing the worlds longest game.

  • @KoiPuff
    @KoiPuff Před 4 lety +3691

    “Who’s side is he really on?” The answer is Shigure. He will always put himself first because he’s selfish and greedy, he admits as much to Hatori. But the flip side is that if he feels like your absence would hurt him he’ll fight tooth and nail for you.

    • @frozenfire3428
      @frozenfire3428 Před 4 lety +108

      Wrong he's not selfish he's doing it to break all the curses and make everyone happy

    • @toastied
      @toastied Před 4 lety +51

      @@frozenfire3428 dont spoil?????

    • @itsamaniarts
      @itsamaniarts Před 4 lety +223

      I actually disagree. I haven't watched the new adaptation but in the manga though he does have a different side to him he's kind of selfless in a selfish sort of way? This is just my opinion and i'm not trying to spoil!!! However, Shigure is not putting himself first, he's trying to teach someone else something and is in some warped way putting them first. But I do agree that he will fight tooth and nail for that goal/ person. Shigure is an amazing character with so much depth and even though his story was very much hidden between the lines it's so sad, but sweet! He's not a character that would destroy other peoples lives to get what he wants though. He uses them sure, but it's partly for their benefit and his own.
      That's just my opinion tho.

    • @frozenfire3428
      @frozenfire3428 Před 4 lety +5

      @@itsamaniarts ok thanks I just like shigure and I believe he's doing some good.

    • @frozenfire3428
      @frozenfire3428 Před 4 lety +3

      @@toastied sorry I couldn't help it I like shigure so much so yeah.

  • @squiddy3382
    @squiddy3382 Před 4 lety +2923

    he is so much scarier in the remake!

    • @BriThi
      @BriThi  Před 4 lety +273

      He really is! It kind of shocked me honestly.

    • @Moonlightchant
      @Moonlightchant Před 4 lety +352

      Not only in the remake, he's like that on the original source a.k.a THE MANGA

    • @Skedadlee
      @Skedadlee Před 4 lety +274

      As he should be! Hes quite a complex character in the manga

    • @s2sHoXXs2
      @s2sHoXXs2 Před 4 lety +216

      @@Moonlightchant I remember him being pretty silly in the beginning though, and then as you read more it became more apparent that he was hiding things. In fact, the tone of the manga starting out changed overtime iirc.

    • @Tia-Marie
      @Tia-Marie Před 4 lety +22

      I thought I recalled Akito becoming mildly personable eventually

  • @Jessielynn1516
    @Jessielynn1516 Před 4 lety +2575

    *Manga Readers Cackling in the Distance*

  • @jayistrying4558
    @jayistrying4558 Před 4 lety +1419

    As a manga reader who read this and currently the spin off... Prepare your tissues for tears of sadness, frustration and anger.

    • @BriThi
      @BriThi  Před 4 lety +89

      Oh no oh no. Everybody says that and I am just not ready T T

    • @OdyLoveMusic
      @OdyLoveMusic Před 4 lety +22

      Really? then I should probably just watch S2 after all the episodes are out....
      i can't take it if i have to wait every week for an episode just to cry or to feel angry...

    • @jayistrying4558
      @jayistrying4558 Před 4 lety +24

      @@OdyLoveMusic I'm actually hoping they bring the same intensity of emotions in the manga to this production. But with the cast from manga about to appear in season 2, it looks pretty promising.
      Also, they are fleshing out the characters better than in the 2000s version, so things will start to make more sense.

    • @OdyLoveMusic
      @OdyLoveMusic Před 4 lety +1

      @@jayistrying4558 guess i'll prepare cloth to wipe my tears... :')

    • @saphexteni
      @saphexteni Před 4 lety +5

      As well as tears of happiness and laughter :) It's truly a roller coaster of emotions.

  • @infinitekurosoul
    @infinitekurosoul Před 4 lety +1803

    Oh ho ho, as someone who's read the manga, it's so entertaining to watch people trying to scramble for answers. It truly is a mysterious and twisting journey. Seeing other people experience it for the first time is bringing back all the feelings I had when I first read it. I'm sure you'll be as captivated as I was!

    • @rosielavenders
      @rosielavenders Před 4 lety +31

      Same here, but still I cry at all the sad moments because I'm a huge softy.

    • @infinitekurosoul
      @infinitekurosoul Před 4 lety +26

      @@rosielavenders Oh same. No matter how many times I see/read it I will never be emotionally prepared enough NOT to cry. This story will bust my heart open every time.

    • @elysosome2570
      @elysosome2570 Před 4 lety +11

      I remember I tried watching the 2019 anime, but I just couldn’t without finishing the manga. So the next day I sped through that story like my life depended on it. It was worth it.

    • @infinitekurosoul
      @infinitekurosoul Před 4 lety +9

      @@elysosome2570 Lmao now that's dedication. I hope the anime does it justice, now that we're finally getting the later part of the manga on screen

    • @rosielavenders
      @rosielavenders Před 4 lety

      @@elysosome2570 *clap clap*

  • @rosepalitsky5812
    @rosepalitsky5812 Před 4 lety +771

    The reason why this version of Fruits Basket is so much more complicated and mysterious and leaves us questioning and earning for answers is because this version is totally based on the manga. Fruits Basket is so much more than what is seems from outside and it teaches us so many things. I am waiting for 2nd season to come out soon!!

    • @ashleypark18
      @ashleypark18 Před 4 lety +2

      anupama nath same

    • @DJDancin4theheart
      @DJDancin4theheart Před 4 lety +23

      Also because the production team knows where the story ends. The big *story* difference between the new and old is because the old production team didn’t know the truth. At the time of the original the manga artist had broken her arm, hadn’t drawn anything past the visit to Ayame’s shop and didn’t know when she’d be able to draw again.

  • @fuckbored4724
    @fuckbored4724 Před 3 lety +86

    Shigure is low key the driving force behind the whole story of Fruits basket.

  • @torillama4275
    @torillama4275 Před 4 lety +268

    “Subplot”? Honey he’s the entire story

  • @Zer0_ooo
    @Zer0_ooo Před 4 lety +639

    That feeling when you are a manga reader but you only have the first half, lol.
    Shigure was definitely my favorite in the 2001 version, but when I read the manga/saw the remake... I fell the hell in love. That's my man, flipping the series on its head! I'm really happy that you talked about it and that you're excited about Shigure's new layers. And you also made really good points about Akito, too. The original really left too many mysteries with him in my opinion. Mysterious is good, but a character needs roots and reasons to be how they are. Anyways. Big fan. Of your channel and Shigure.
    Loyal viewer, signing off.

    • @drakenfist
      @drakenfist Před 4 lety +16

      Shigure in the original just had me confused. He was really silly, but the worst part was at the end when he broke down crying in front of Tohru and it made no sense, then when she comes back with Kyo, he starts laughing hysterically. Its like he went mad or something.

    • @Zer0_ooo
      @Zer0_ooo Před 4 lety +5

      @@drakenfist I enjoyed all of his gags and stuff so much. Also, I really love dogs. But also? I don't remember exactly how old I was when I saw it, ha. But... New Shigure? Brilliant. Love. Him.

    • @BriThi
      @BriThi  Před 4 lety +7

      I'm glad you enjoyed it!! I remember you actually asking about this video and I was thinking you would enjoy it haha. But I AM SO EXCITED TO FINALLY LEARN MORE ABOUT THIS GUY AHHHHH. Season 2 just a few weeks away!!

    • @Zer0_ooo
      @Zer0_ooo Před 4 lety +1

      @@BriThi I am literally SO ready. I'm glad your channel is here to make the wait more bearable.

    • @psionichelmsman
      @psionichelmsman Před 4 lety +5

      As a note, Akito's gender is a secret for a reason. Keep an open mind to what their gender might be! It might be a different reveal. Akito's a terrible person, but they're not a monster. There's reasons as to why Akito is the way they are, same with everyone else in the cast. Each of them have suffered trauma and abuse in different ways. This is very much more apparent in the TMS/8PAN version than the Studio DEEN version. Each of them contend with the pain of tragedy, mistreatment and abuse in very different ways-and our lovely Tohru's positive and gentle nature, as well as not being a part of the tragedies of that family provides the compassion and understanding that family needs.
      Part of why the 2001 anime veered off track is that it passed up where the manga was at the time, which only finished in 2012. The TMS/8PAN version has a full, finished story to work with and draw from where the DEEN version did not.
      As for being an anime-only person... I think Shigure knows exactly what Akito's deal is and wants to set Akito free from a self-imposed prison of trauma and pushing everyone away. Akito's clearly not mentally stable and doesn't understand how to empathize with the plights of others at this point in time.

  • @moniqueroman7704
    @moniqueroman7704 Před 4 lety +2405

    *Me smiling like a Chesire Cat when people are watching this blind without having read the source material*
    You have no idea what you're in for ^^

    • @BriThi
      @BriThi  Před 4 lety +69

      Oh no Monique don't do this to me. I'm not ready T T. Thanks for commenting !

    • @sed9385
      @sed9385 Před 4 lety +42

      Ahahahahaha say hello to my _anime only but spoiled as hell ass_ 🤣

    • @ariapeachy0_08
      @ariapeachy0_08 Před 4 lety +22

      Oof these guys are in for a ride...

    • @BeanieO
      @BeanieO Před 4 lety +5

      Same! Lol

    • @lmsandoval95
      @lmsandoval95 Před 4 lety +25

      For real 😂 this whole video got me 😬 cuz i know whats gonna happen!!!

  • @milkychu8869
    @milkychu8869 Před 4 lety +609

    Saguna went from ‘sir I lost you daughter’ to ‘your daughter calls me daddy’-

    • @BriThi
      @BriThi  Před 4 lety +37

      This comment made me laugh haha. Good one XD

    • @milkychu8869
      @milkychu8869 Před 4 lety +4

      BriThi ofc I try my best 😩✊

    • @izzydarosa1953
      @izzydarosa1953 Před 4 lety +17

      Milky Chu bow I just read that as “daughter, I lost you sir” and “your daddy calls me daughter” lol whyyyy brain

    • @milkychu8869
      @milkychu8869 Před 4 lety +2

      Scarlett this comment made me cackle like the witch I am-

  • @larainethorpe2847
    @larainethorpe2847 Před 4 lety +700

    I know what is up with Akito and shigure and I can't wait for all the anime only fans to see it. You will not be expecting this

    • @jackmaul5668
      @jackmaul5668 Před 4 lety +21

      I am very tempted to make a mother joke but.
      For once.
      I will refrain for the sake of keeping CZcams

    • @DeathnoteBB
      @DeathnoteBB Před 4 lety +43

      Laraine Thorpe It’s wild to me that people haven’t seen the manga. This is maybe the only manga I ever read all the way through and also own. I saw some of the 2001 anime but I don’t think I ever saw all the episodes, it was so different lol

    • @chevaliedelareverie
      @chevaliedelareverie Před 4 lety +36

      I grew up with the manga (disliked the first anime), and am loving the remake! But the best part is seeing my husband's reactions to the mystery and surprises as the story progresses! (and the soft parts get him in the heart, too!)

    • @anonymousfellow8879
      @anonymousfellow8879 Před 4 lety +5

      Oh I know what’s up with Akito (manga reader), but Shigure’s Character is...A Lot Of Hot Air.

    • @noemiepace9020
      @noemiepace9020 Před 4 lety +6

      They don't know what's coming towards them haha

  • @itsamaniarts
    @itsamaniarts Před 4 lety +132

    "Is he lying or telling the truth?" No
    "Who's side is he on?" Yes
    I really wanna spoil since i've read the manga sooooo many times and was born with the show, grew up with the lessons and loved each story. Each time I get older I appreciate the messages more, and I don't wanna rip that away so I'm not gonna do dat.
    Enjoy the show guys, I can't bring myself to watch it DX
    Y'all are in for a ride. Bring the tissues, and the eye drops ;-;

    • @Bee-cz6xi
      @Bee-cz6xi Před 4 lety +4

      Please I wanna know who's side Shigure is on

    • @cleoblue1001
      @cleoblue1001 Před 4 lety

      Same please tell us

    • @itsamaniarts
      @itsamaniarts Před 4 lety +1

      @@Bee-cz6xi he's on his own side. He's kind of on both sides since he wants the best for everyone.
      ...especially Akito. But that's a spoiler for another time.

    • @itsamaniarts
      @itsamaniarts Před 4 lety +1

      @@cleoblue1001 he's on his own side, he wants the best for everyone. But literally Shigure is the beeeeest. One of the most underated characters in my opinion.

    • @julycat2650
      @julycat2650 Před 4 lety

      I recommend you to watch it though.
      The second season is only updated till ep 12, but the storyline really fascinating.
      Highly recommended anime for anyone who want some drama, fantasy, slice of life and psychological.

  • @kayb933
    @kayb933 Před 4 lety +42

    I find it funny how people who've only seen the anime consider him 'altered'. He starts out as a sleazy idiot in the manga, too (though I love him; I love all the characters), and watching his rather speedy escalation into a lying, self-centered, self-aware-of-his-self-centeredness, sleazy not-so-idiot was one of the best background parts of the manga. I'm so happy that all this important detail is in the new anime!!

  • @jackmaul5668
    @jackmaul5668 Před 4 lety +324

    You: I'm fascinated about the Shigure and akito relationship
    Me, manga reader: ahahha ahahahha AHHAAHA YES. Yes.
    (I am very fascinated by them too, believe me. :'))

    • @claireisabella7186
      @claireisabella7186 Před 4 lety

      Schnuffel NawNom current mood

    • @aoaoli
      @aoaoli Před 4 lety

      Mood

    • @zahara5472
      @zahara5472 Před 4 lety

      Schnuffel NawNom lmao SAMEEE

    • @vawexa123
      @vawexa123 Před 4 lety +4

      I usually love characters with dark motivations but shigure... damn I hate him

    • @kirikake5414
      @kirikake5414 Před 4 lety +9

      Same. I was like, TF? Like really? Gure is probably the most twisted and screwed character in the whole series. And unlike everyone else, he doesn't change at ALL.

  • @previoustimtamthenusedtobe744

    An easy away to put it is that Shigure's side has always been Shigure. He does care about others but his number one side is himself

    • @JustAPrayer
      @JustAPrayer Před 2 lety +8

      Yes and yet ironically his actions do benefit others in the long run. He takes Yuki in and gets him out of that house and away from his abuse when no one else would. He gives Kyo advice on how to deal with his anger which tremendously helps Kyo in forming relationships with the others including Tohru. He facilities Tohru’s meeting with Kureno and gives her plenty of clues about the curse. He calls out Akito every time they interact on how bad her behavior is, although just like everyone else he can’t do much to stop it, Akito is still his God after all. He’s also the first and for a long time, only character to question Akito on whether locking Kyo up is the right thing to do. Remember all of the Sohma’s just accept his eventual imprisonment as inevitable for most of the story (which makes Kyo’s anger and inability to get along with the others a lot more understandable).

  • @marcelm103
    @marcelm103 Před 4 lety +363

    So can't wait for Season 2, this year has me excited for a few things. 2020 is going to be great for anime fans.

    • @BriThi
      @BriThi  Před 4 lety +9

      Only a few more weeks to go!! I cannot wait ahhh. Thanks for commenting ^^

    • @sarahs922
      @sarahs922 Před 4 lety +4

      :( re:zero season 2 got delayed

    • @JessycaLunawoona
      @JessycaLunawoona Před 4 lety +3

      @Karma Akabane
      The event where they were gonna be featuring the first episodes of season 2 in theaters was cancelled.
      But season 2 itself wasn’t delayed. It’s still premiering April 6th.

    • @sarahs922
      @sarahs922 Před 4 lety

      Oh thanks :)

  • @tigerprincevincey
    @tigerprincevincey Před 4 lety +194

    “Just like an onion” oh my god shigure is shrek...

  • @kisara16
    @kisara16 Před 4 lety +302

    Something I don't understand is Shigure and Hatori's hair color. I thought it would also be the color of their animal but it's not.

    • @BriThi
      @BriThi  Před 4 lety +50

      You know Emily I never really thought of that huh. That is kind of strange lol. Good eye thou!

    • @IsuzusanH6
      @IsuzusanH6 Před 4 lety +60

      For Hatori I think it can be explained by the fact his animal doesn't have fur. As for Shigure, his hair has always been a mystery to me (especially when I tried to draw him) x)... But I guess it's quite close to the fur color of the Dog. A very dark gray

    • @kisara16
      @kisara16 Před 4 lety +5

      @@IsuzusanH6 oh yeah seahorses that's true! Thanks

    • @erwanasuzumiya6347
      @erwanasuzumiya6347 Před 4 lety +7

      @@IsuzusanH6 yes but ayame doesn't have fur either and his hair are white. Either it's a sign of (spoiler)
      The curse weakening
      Or it's just that the dragon was dark

    • @IsuzusanH6
      @IsuzusanH6 Před 4 lety

      @@erwanasuzumiya6347 ah yeah, that's true, I didn't think about Ayame!

  • @theultimateusukfan
    @theultimateusukfan Před 4 lety +134

    i am VERY excited and happy with the remake shigure. manga shigure/remake shigure is the best. the dark sides to his character is amazing and i get a smile whenever dark shigure makes an appearance in the remake anime lol

    • @BriThi
      @BriThi  Před 4 lety +3

      Oh my gosh same! I can't wait to see more of him in season 2 hopefully! Thank you for your support! I very much appreciate it ^^

    • @theultimateusukfan
      @theultimateusukfan Před 4 lety +1

      @@BriThi i subbed because of the fruits basket content! love ur videos so far

  • @cerooscuas
    @cerooscuas Před 4 lety +60

    Him laughing at thohru in her tent in ep 1 made me laugh so hard it got me to watch ep 2 and after that i was hooked hahah also 1000% shes going to end up with the cat dude there is genuine development for that at the end of season 1 it became pretty apparent

  • @lapislazuli06
    @lapislazuli06 Před 4 lety +105

    Trust me, season 2 will be really good!

    • @BriThi
      @BriThi  Před 4 lety +3

      Ahhh can’t wait! Thanks for commenting Haru :)

  • @lacabraasada
    @lacabraasada Před 3 lety +10

    "Does your dog bite?"
    "No, but it can hurt you in other ways"

  • @Kyurengo
    @Kyurengo Před 4 lety +206

    Well, both Akito and Shigure are completely different characters in the original than the current one, and more based on the manga, because it happened the same as Full Metal Alchemist (the story hadn´t developed enough to know who they were in truth).
    The only thing I can say that itsn´t a spoiler is that Shigure is THE dog, a very determinated one.
    I think that Shigure's wish is the key factor to this story (something that we'll know in the third season, because I don't think one season is enough for all that's left... We've only reached the 6th-7th volume, and it has 23)
    I like both Shigure, the comical one gave his support to the MC, and the real one gives the story the push it needed.
    (Momiji is still my favourite one)

    • @valerienavarrete1907
      @valerienavarrete1907 Před 4 lety +7

      Momiji's story still gives me complex feels 😖 but yeah, he's definitely a favorite.

    • @Kyurengo
      @Kyurengo Před 4 lety +2

      @@valerienavarrete1907 Just wait to know all of his story. You can't help but love him afterwards

    • @valerienavarrete1907
      @valerienavarrete1907 Před 4 lety +3

      @@Kyurengo I wish I could unknow it because the first time I read through fruits basket, at Momiji's parts, I kept crying 😭. As a then teen, fruits basket destroyed my emotional control.

    • @Kyurengo
      @Kyurengo Před 4 lety +5

      @@valerienavarrete1907 Right? You can't read Furuba without tissues close. And I still think that Momiji has the worst story yet the best way to deal with it (Kyo and Rin also have bad ones but they don't deal with them in a healthy way). He 's so strong!

    • @valerienavarrete1907
      @valerienavarrete1907 Před 4 lety +4

      @@Kyurengo Yes, this! Exactly this! Momiji as a character should have had a more extensive story, especially at the end.

  • @amatullahm2384
    @amatullahm2384 Před 4 lety +124

    Honestly, i love both versions. 2001 ver braught this story to me. But i must admit, the 2019 version is doing a spectacular job at portraying the story of the manga. I think the only problem with the manga is that the truth of the curse is revealed quite ambiguously. So while some people understood it, many didn't (though im greatful i finally understood it AFTER ready it 3 times, definitely not on my first read). The 2019 anime is actually adding a lot of foreshadowing alongsite certain parts of their dialogue that parallel certain aspects of the curse to make it easier to pick up on later on (though im not gonna spoil that).

    • @violetstarlight5561
      @violetstarlight5561 Před 4 lety +3

      Amatullah M I get the feeling we getting a season 3. It won’t unravel soon. It’s a whole lot.

    • @nuclearseahorse
      @nuclearseahorse Před 4 lety

      @@violetstarlight5561 did season 2 come out already? My friend stopped paying for crunchyroll so i havent checked it out yet (not watching no ads, you kidding me?)

    • @joellavanbatenburg3289
      @joellavanbatenburg3289 Před 4 lety

      uwu boi It will air at the 6th of April!

  • @itsmangobean
    @itsmangobean Před 4 lety +35

    in conclusion ; the existence of their relationship is the root of this series lmao

  • @starrybun
    @starrybun Před 4 lety +32

    Fruits Basket is the one manga series that I've kept for years, since I was a teenager. I'm so excited for this remake. People who are new to the series have No Idea what's in store!

    • @BriThi
      @BriThi  Před 4 lety

      I am so excited for season 2! It's going to be so good :)

    • @JenJenTokyo
      @JenJenTokyo Před 4 lety

      They have to read the manga. But some people they watch the anime but not read the manga none at all.

  • @crystalr6461
    @crystalr6461 Před 4 lety +17

    He became my favorite character in 2019 adaptation. He was just so complex. He was super nice but you know that there is something behind all of his actions.

  • @Chewi_
    @Chewi_ Před 4 lety +18

    Oh man, I can't wait. The manga was like a bible to me as a teenager lol. I made a notebook with all my favorite qoutes and reread the manga all the time. I watched the OG anime like over 7 times lol. I remember the excitement I felt when the new anime was announced and was said to cover the entire manga! I'm super in love with it, I love the new art style and the new voice actors.

  • @miyahana79
    @miyahana79 Před 4 lety +18

    I can see he's twisted even in the OG anime, that's why I love him. I guess because it's such a fluffy rom-com, I noticed him more. His dark side is more obvious in the remake.

  • @dogti2959
    @dogti2959 Před 4 lety +32

    I'm glad you make this video. I see a lot of 2001 fans be sad and angry about the changes in Shigure personality and behavior. Well, that's what he was in the source material, who he always was.
    I liked the firts adaptation when I was younger, but compared with what they did in the remake and what's coming in april and later, it can't compete. It was too comic and after rewatching it, especially the episode when Thoru's best friends come to the house, it's just too much. Gags and gags to make it longer.
    Shigure is a fascinating character in this season : a main one who live and take care of the young ones, but also manipulated everyone around him for one goal who even seem different from Akito's. "You rip what you soar" he say to them, we don't know what he's really thinking as Thoru and Yuki pointed it in the Valentine's day episode. Only Hatori seem to understand what's going, not being his allies 'cause he don't want Thoru and the others to be hurt, but not being his enemy either 'cause making that dream a reality is probaly the only chance for Shigure to find happiness, like the few months he live with Kana himself. They're cursed and no one can truly blame them for wanting what everybody is looking for. I like their relationship 'cause their still friend after all these years and even if Shigure is not really a "good" person. I wish we had more of Ayame and Shigure discussion like that, 'cause the snake know as much as Hatori in that matter 'cause he had the dream too. I hope for it in season 2 and 3.
    Well, that's pretty much all, sorry for the big but Shigure has a real purpose in the story, not just a comic role. Can't wait for season 2, it's like waiting one more month is harder than waiting 1 year. And I'm a manga reader so I know what's coming but it's just... We're finally gonna have the rest of the story in anime !!

    • @BriThi
      @BriThi  Před 4 lety +1

      Thanks for your comment :) it was a good read! Don’t ever feel bad for commenting long post!

  • @agentofagents640
    @agentofagents640 Před 4 lety +19

    Shigure 2001: obnoxious pervy author outside and inside
    New Shigure: obnoxious pervy author outside but a mysterious inside
    i like that change because they could finally tidy fruits basket up and put it on its path to the climax and the original was kinda just cute and all over the place

  • @maia_06
    @maia_06 Před 4 lety +22

    2001 version has my heart..
    but..
    2019 version has my soul.

  • @princesspikachu3915
    @princesspikachu3915 Před 4 lety +13

    Shigure is a very complex character in the manga. Oddly enough he IS hinted at having a sinister side in the 2001 anime but it’s never explored as the 2001 anime series adapted a manga that wouldn’t be finished for another 5 years later (manga finished up in 2006). Shigure has a very manipulative personality that does some very terrible things for the good of the others. Shigure isn’t really evil but he knows that he and the other zodiac members are unhappy and suffering and will do anything to end the suffering even if that means causing more suffering initially before relief is achieved (think putting rubbing alcohol on a bleeding sore so that the infection doesn’t get worse. Hurts like hell but you feel better later). I don’t really like Shigure’s character but I see where he is coming from.

  • @xWhoLeSoMe
    @xWhoLeSoMe Před 4 lety +8

    I really characters like that, Shigure Sohma and Kisuke Uruhara. Funny person but mysterious af!

  • @victoriapark1104
    @victoriapark1104 Před 4 lety +18

    When I watched the old version I never understood that shigure was bad. I thought that hatori was the enemy. With the remade version I only just realized this

    • @Great_Lake_Surfer
      @Great_Lake_Surfer Před 4 lety +1

      Wait. He's bad ..? ;-;

    • @victoriapark1104
      @victoriapark1104 Před 4 lety +3

      Not really he just was very manipulative and gave off a sinister vibe IM NOT SPOILING ANYTHING FOR THE MANGA THO DONT WORRY. The anime comes out like next week.

    • @BriThi
      @BriThi  Před 4 lety +1

      It's actually 2 weeks but yeah thank you for no spoilers :) Also I appreciate you commenting!

    • @SakiBlablabla
      @SakiBlablabla Před 4 lety +5

      Basically, without spoiling anything ...He is kind of a Slytherin !

  • @NeonshiAmor
    @NeonshiAmor Před 4 lety +8

    I'm a manga reader with a brother whose favorite character is Shigure and my brother can talk for literal HOURS about Shigure's character and his role in the story. He's an incredibly complex character that is SOOO well written

  • @marquin7672
    @marquin7672 Před 4 lety +56

    Avoid spoilers at all costs. In my opinion, Shigure is one of the best ________________ in manga history, especially in a shōjo manga. I don't read shōjo nowadays as I have switched to Seinen/Shônen (nowadays, I prefer tragic, suspense, thriller, psychological/mind warfare, battle/action/fighting scenes genre).
    However, I am sticking to Fruits Basket because of the mystery and tragic backstories despite the strong shōjo, romance-comedy undertones...

    • @Trisha_Yuu
      @Trisha_Yuu Před 4 lety

      SHHHH! Shigure is NOT AN **********! DX

    • @marquin7672
      @marquin7672 Před 4 lety

      @@Trisha_Yuu I edited my reply to avoid spoilers :D

    • @Trisha_Yuu
      @Trisha_Yuu Před 4 lety

      @@marquin7672 hahaha ok I edited my reply too XD

    • @ragsrare3771
      @ragsrare3771 Před rokem

      There are many dark shoujo, but I guess you are the type of people who judge a whole demographic from one manga.
      Hopefully the boring shounen with nake girls never tried you out.

  • @monzerattevereniceleyva1835

    They also showed Kyo and Tohru’s relationship and how they grew to love each other as well!!

  • @mikomiakari3949
    @mikomiakari3949 Před 4 lety +5

    I was introduced to Furuba by the original anime. I originally fell in love with how quirky it was and then, started reading the manga. It's my favorite manga for sure. It has a nice blend of the quirky humor and the serious tone of the remake. I'm was excited to learn about a remake. Without spoiling anything, I'll just say your analysis of Shigure is pretty on point. If this stays the course, it's about to start getting real crazy.

  • @gabyflores4516
    @gabyflores4516 Před 4 lety +55

    I feel like a wise man when you ask all these questions that I know the answer to simply cuz I read the manga 😆😅

    • @BriThi
      @BriThi  Před 4 lety

      haha hopefully season 2 answers all my questions >:)

  • @monrque
    @monrque Před 4 lety +7

    I knew from the start that Seigure character was more then just a light-hearted individual. I picked up on the subtle signs they were giving. Maybe if you re-watch it now you be able to find more of those subtle hints. I knew he had something going on with the head of the family. I knew his upfront disposition was nothing but an act.

  • @Xre99
    @Xre99 Před 4 lety +12

    Loved this video, I’m getting flashbacks of feeling really bad for shigure’s editor lol.. I’m so excited to see how they’ll expand on the story in season 2! Great video as always!

    • @BriThi
      @BriThi  Před 4 lety +2

      Thanks for your support man as always man ^^

  • @SiymaK
    @SiymaK Před 4 lety +36

    Me to people who haven't read the manga: Ooohohohohhh buckle up boiiissss, is gon be a bumpy riidddee

    • @SiymaK
      @SiymaK Před 4 lety +1

      @@reebs_113 Ep 7 would be chapter 55 in manga! Enjoy!!!

    • @SiymaK
      @SiymaK Před 4 lety +1

      @@reebs_113 i think the anime condenses a few chapters into each episode which is great. The author is very heavily involved with this current anime adaptation and storyline so I think alot of the changes aren't too significant or altering. Also, the manga was written in the 90s, so couple small details would naturally be a little traditional

    • @SiymaK
      @SiymaK Před 4 lety +1

      @@reebs_113 LOL YEAH IT BE LIKE THAT. THAT WAS ME TOO. THATS STILL ME

    • @SiymaK
      @SiymaK Před 4 lety +1

      @@reebs_113 im so excited to see how everything will play out in the anime, like will there be any major changes or if they'll add some new parts. There is one scene in particular im very curious about cuz the English translation didnt make sense to/sounded too awkward. Its a major scene too but i dont know if itll be in this season

  • @fadznuzu3341
    @fadznuzu3341 Před 3 lety +6

    Shigure is a really well written character to say the least

  • @rocker_starss
    @rocker_starss Před 4 lety +8

    i have picked up the manga sires from the library back in summer, it was a great story, and i was sad the anime did not have the whole story, i love the ending it was well done, and how some character connections came to be like Kyo and another character, and to find out Akito secret will shock you, and what happen to tohru on the second to last manga or last of the thick one will leave you in tears.

    • @BriThi
      @BriThi  Před 4 lety +1

      I'm excited to see the rest of the story! Season 2 is going to be here so soon! We can finally learn the rest :)

    • @guessilldienow7447
      @guessilldienow7447 Před 4 lety

      Please tell me what happend ill die from curosity

  • @steviehendrix9859
    @steviehendrix9859 Před 4 lety +6

    I appreciate this comparative look at Shigure’s 2001 vs reboot character development! That being said, I do believe the 2001 make did actually hint at the probability of Shigure’s in-depth role in a potential plot build up on many occasions.
    I remember always feeling somewhat unfulfilled that this plot was never really “revealed” or built on in the original anime. I am however, ecstatic to see where it will go in the reboot. Shigure has always been one of my favorite characters, and I’ve found that my fondness for him has grown over time as I’ve grown closer to Shigure, Hatori & Ayame’s age group.
    On another note, VERY pleased with the choice of Japanese voice actors for the reboot!

  • @bia5141
    @bia5141 Před 4 lety +15

    I loved Shigure in 2001 but I love him even more in 2019 version (although now m feelngs about him are more complicated) I am also only anime watcher so I cant wait whats to come

    • @BriThi
      @BriThi  Před 4 lety

      I also really like his character but he just confused me in the 2019 version. I am so excited to really dive into his character!

  • @RyujinRoot
    @RyujinRoot Před 4 lety +10

    shigure is actually the darkest character very manipulative in a way its like its his world and everyone lives in it.....and thats why hes my fav character

  • @Styx_
    @Styx_ Před 4 lety +4

    Honestly, Shigure is one of my favs too so I'm so glad they show his complexities in the remake.

  • @muffinpandas8034
    @muffinpandas8034 Před 4 lety +5

    Shigure was always my favorite character and when these things were unmasked I was very surprised. I like the change honestly. I was very excited because the original always left me most confused about Akito and even his minimal relationship with Shigure. But as it was stated, it feels so much darker😂

  • @kathrinadc2
    @kathrinadc2 Před 4 lety +5

    i really enjoy your analysis of canon!shigure and aaa i cant wait for you to watch season 3 since that's where akito and shigure's relationship will be explored! (it's too far huhu) everyone is so hyped for s2 and i cant wait for your reactions because i find them very entertaining and very deep!

    • @BriThi
      @BriThi  Před 4 lety +4

      Thank you so much for your support! I'm looking forward to season 2 so badly ahhh.

  • @TwistedE13
    @TwistedE13 Před 4 lety +39

    Anime only fans: HE'S SO SCARY!! WHY DID THEY CHANGE HIM SO MUCH?!? HE'S NOT THE SAME!!!
    Manga fans who have known all along: * sips tea and snickers quietly * 😏☕

  • @SneachdaCole
    @SneachdaCole Před 3 lety +1

    Lord, I am SOOO glad they did a remake of the anime. The first one BARELY followed the manga at all, and it really just upset me. They left SOOOOOOO much out, namely Kureno and Rin, who are really important to the story. I've been wishing for a remake for so long, and I'm so happy we now have one. Sure it's been making me cry, by the manga did that as well. I'm so very grateful for the remake and seeing the characters the way they're supposed to be

  • @talkshh
    @talkshh Před 4 lety +5

    Yes this is why Sinistergure and Akito are my favorites, can't wait to watch the rest animated

  • @kasurinjung
    @kasurinjung Před 4 lety +5

    The 2001 ver brought me this amazing series but the original manga made it my ultimate favourite of all time so I’m extremely excited knowing they remake the original manga in anime. My reaction was like you when I realised how dark Shigure actually is when read the manga. Also please stay tunes for the twist on the relationship between Shigure and Akito. I’m pretty sure you will be surprised and like it a lot. The thing that makes me love this series is because the darkness that it brought. You laugh a lot but cry a lot too. I cried so much reading the manga so I can already see myself crying my eyeballs out when those scenes being animated for the first time. I honestly adore every character from this series bc they are very well-written

    • @BriThi
      @BriThi  Před 4 lety +1

      Yeah the characters are seriously well written. It makes for a really great story honestly. Thanks for writing this well thought out comment :)

    • @kasurinjung
      @kasurinjung Před 4 lety

      @@BriThi haha np. I hope you will enjoy the whole story as I do. Just really hype when someone likes my babies. Looking forwards for more videos from you

  • @mollyabercrombie5889
    @mollyabercrombie5889 Před 3 lety +2

    There were hints to this personality in the first one but it’s so much closer to the manga now I love it

  • @btsarmyredeta482
    @btsarmyredeta482 Před 3 lety +2

    Here I am watching this while waiting for season 3. Damnnn it's gonna wrap it all up. I'm dying for certain scenes to be animated

  • @maddyd3422
    @maddyd3422 Před 4 lety +3

    I can’t wait until you see the story unfold :) Akito and Shigure are my two favourite characters.

  • @melina_0455
    @melina_0455 Před 4 lety +4

    Your comments and excitment for s2 give me life! I hope you'll do reaction videos or review videos on the the new episodes. Above all: DON'T GET SPOILED !

    • @BriThi
      @BriThi  Před 4 lety +3

      I probably will be doing those! I promise I won't get spoiled haha. I've made it this far...

  • @maytalacedo1284
    @maytalacedo1284 Před 2 lety +1

    I definitely would love to see more of what shigure is up to while also being scared of what's going to happens if he does win.

  • @hollyparry1210
    @hollyparry1210 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Shigure is a true man of mystery. His character develop really goes on a whole different level. You are uncertain him you can really even trust him or not. Love him or hate him, I do find his character here likable at least, even with his shady side in the reboot.

  • @pikaluv8
    @pikaluv8 Před 4 lety +3

    As a manga reader im so excited to see someone experience this thought process about shigure for the first time

  • @strangerdaysss
    @strangerdaysss Před 3 lety +9

    i've finished the manga (10+ years ago) and all the anime episodes up to this date and correct me if I'm forgetting something but why is everyone making shigure seem like such a bad person? sure he is manipulative and selfish but he was also the one to pull all the pieces of the puzzle together (you'll know what i mean if you've finished the manga as i am referring to the ending). i honestly do not think shigure deserves all the hate.

  • @shreya446
    @shreya446 Před 4 lety +1

    yes I’m so glad there will be a second season! this is one anime that just absolutely deserves many, many seasons,
    it’s a healing anime for me and I love it beyond words 🥺💕

  • @TchoiMoi
    @TchoiMoi Před 2 měsíci +1

    shigure is simply THE ONE. impossible not to love him

  • @kagusumire
    @kagusumire Před 4 lety +43

    You're pretty hopeful if you think second season will open the can of worns
    You will know everything season 3

    • @BriThi
      @BriThi  Před 4 lety +4

      Season 3?!? Mind = blown. Can't freaking wait for it thou :0

    • @kagusumire
      @kagusumire Před 4 lety +2

      @@BriThi Yeah, the manga is 23 volume long and the first season end around vol 8

    • @drakenfist
      @drakenfist Před 4 lety +4

      @@BriThi It's a big series!. Season 1 only adapted like 42 and a half chapters out of 136!, with pacing at 2 chapters a episode and the odd special episode adapting only 1 chapter (the Uotani episodes took a alternative at adapting 1 and a half chapters a episode). So unless they start rushing stuff (which is the last thing any of us want). If they keep going at this really good pace. I can easily see this being a 3 season series of 25 episodes each. Heck may even be 4 seasons, as there were a couple storylines in the manga that didn't get enough detail, that could be fleshed out more.

    • @kagusumire
      @kagusumire Před 4 lety

      @@drakenfist mmmm 4 season seems a bit much to be honest. No, 3 season will be perfect enough (I think season 2 will end around vol 15)

    • @jenniferlee9112
      @jenniferlee9112 Před 4 lety

      Wow a lot of us anime only folks are gonna have to get a copy of the manga series I don’t think we can wait for two more seasons for answers

  • @kitsune0626
    @kitsune0626 Před 4 lety +3

    The manga is one of my favorites and I love that the new take on the anime is actually following the tragedy that is Fruits Basket. Akito especially is a tragic story.

  • @hypemynizzle
    @hypemynizzle Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you for using Emotion from Pokemon Black and White. Made this 10x more beautiful.

  • @Bobrob1597
    @Bobrob1597 Před 2 lety +2

    He's my favorite character in the series. I view him as one of the main villains in the series. (at least in terms of the 2019 version.)

  • @pandarama816
    @pandarama816 Před 4 lety +147

    Manga readers: oooohh, you have NO idea 🤫😉😈

  • @Trisha_Yuu
    @Trisha_Yuu Před 4 lety +19

    "Whose side is he really on?" Dude... do you even know ALL the sides that he can be on at this point...? omg the pain of knowing what's ahead... (spelling edit)

  • @blackyivan
    @blackyivan Před měsícem +1

    This is still interesting, even a couple of years after finishing the remake

  • @4leaffy
    @4leaffy Před 3 lety +2

    He is who he is and I love how dark and fun he is. My favourite character

  • @trystkinkou5542
    @trystkinkou5542 Před 4 lety +5

    "Haven't read the manga...." oh..oh you poor poor lambs to the slaughter. *cackles* I hope it keeps true to the manga so you can really experience the twisted beauty that is fruits basket. I will say the driving force for all characters in a way is love denied either for others or amongst themselves.

    • @deathfangz1609
      @deathfangz1609 Před 4 lety

      Tryst Kinkou i really want to read the manga but are there any websites i can read the manga online??

  • @shinypetxls4470
    @shinypetxls4470 Před 3 lety +6

    at first he was like 2% villain, but now, he's about 98% villain.

  • @EvoWatches
    @EvoWatches Před 2 lety +2

    He just wants akito’s love

  • @Koutouhara
    @Koutouhara Před 9 měsíci +1

    He's on his side but also everyone's side because it gets him what he wants at the same time. He wanted to fix the situation in the only way he could because he was greedy in wanting everything and he was loyal to both sides. He didn't want to lose Akihito nor did he want to loose Yuki, Toru, and Kyo because he did care for them.

  • @Ohsomanly
    @Ohsomanly Před 4 lety +6

    I already read the manga i can’t wait to see al of your reactions hehe

    • @BriThi
      @BriThi  Před 4 lety

      It'll be crazy~! Thank you for commenting Dana ^ ^

    • @ermocostamagna9050
      @ermocostamagna9050 Před 4 lety

      I've also already read the manga too.

  • @malaynivanelgort2574
    @malaynivanelgort2574 Před 4 lety +14

    I find it really funny how the anime actually makes Shigure seem more evil and sinister than he actually is in the manga. I'm guessing from all the cut scenes to his past and the music. But in my opinion, Shirgure isn't that mysterious being that he is portrayed in the anime, yes he has his moments but it's not the same. But I love the anime, its so cool to see the manga pages that I have read since I was in grade 6 be re-animated into the new anime that 2019 made it to be. I started watching the anime when I was in 2nd grade, forgot about it until I found out my middle school had all the volumes of the manga, and then finding out they were doing a reboot when I was in grade 10. I love this anime to the moon and back, but all this is just my experience soooo yeah :) can't wait for the second season!

    • @BriThi
      @BriThi  Před 4 lety +1

      It's really cool seeing your view point on the whole thing! Thanks for commenting Malayni :)

    • @malaynivanelgort2574
      @malaynivanelgort2574 Před 4 lety

      BriThi of course!

  • @lolawhiterabbit
    @lolawhiterabbit Před 4 lety +1

    I read the manga when I was in High school before the first anime adaptation, it’s such a heart wrenching/heartwarming story. You really get the depths and layers of each character and you get to see what really drives them forward exposing their inner most vulnerable and ugly side to them. It’s honestly such a beautiful story and so sweet, pure and sorrowful. I loved the first anime adaptation but I have to agree when they lacked some of the depths and part of the story just to make it more light hearted and comedic. Not that the manga is not light hearted and funny because it was but it also had a different side to it, an undertone that kept you uneasy and somewhat nervous. I’m so happy with the remake and how close it is to it’s original source because it’s truly such a beautiful story and it does the characters justice by revealing them and correctly telling their side to give us a better understanding of where they stand and how the story will progress.

  • @cowboydevil5993
    @cowboydevil5993 Před 3 lety

    Unwavering hearts in the background.. nice choice

  • @natlikehoon
    @natlikehoon Před 3 lety +5

    Am I the only one who enjoys the remake more..? I think it’s more entertaining and the old version is very boring if i’m going to be honest.

  • @kookilenakkk8779
    @kookilenakkk8779 Před 3 lety +4

    The first anime honestly softened his character a loooooot
    He’s always been scary but the fact that he hides his wicked side under a cheerful and normal personality makes him look so... twisted and manipulative ?

  • @OwlsSkySailing
    @OwlsSkySailing Před 4 lety +1

    The fun part is, I’m watching the remake after over a decade of having seen the OG anime and reading all the books, so my memory of both are fuzzy. But I did that intentionally, I wanted to go into the remake fresh. I’m so so glad I did, the characters are so much better well done in the remake. Yuki has true personality, and we see the real reason Shigure’s role is so important. But I will say, looking at the comments of these analysis on the episodes is just asking for spoilers so I’ll watch the rest of them when the remake is finished!! So excited!!

  • @dr-planecrash
    @dr-planecrash Před 4 lety +1

    I like that this one is more complex. I’ve never seen the 2001 version, but I can assume anyone watching the reboot now after watching that one was probably a child when the 2001 version aired. The funnier story and the simpler style appealed to children more, and now we can follow the manga and really understand the story for what it is

  • @KagaKusanagi
    @KagaKusanagi Před 4 lety +17

    Random, but Pokémon music!!

    • @BriThi
      @BriThi  Před 4 lety +5

      How did you know?? Such good ears wow :0

  • @truptipatil9348
    @truptipatil9348 Před 3 lety +3

    Shigure is the only character in the entire anime whom I have not understood at all.

  • @MsBungakuJosei
    @MsBungakuJosei Před 4 měsíci +1

    2001 Shigure is what Shigure's character is like from Tohru's perspective

  • @milk_chocolxte
    @milk_chocolxte Před 3 lety +1

    Damn, at first I thought he was like a sorta true mastermind and that’s why he was so close with Akito and stuff, but after finishing the anime I got to say even if I didn’t like him at times his character depth along with everyone else’s makes him so much more interesting. Akito and Shigure where the ones I didn’t trust the most but at the same time I sympathized with them. Got to hand it to the writers.

  • @exlon_xiv
    @exlon_xiv Před 4 lety +3

    I’ve read the series as well as watched both versions of the anime so far. Personally, I prefer the aura of Shigure in the prior version, I think he could’ve remained quirky and funny and still had his shady background, so that it really threw you more. I liked it better when you were given the feeling of wanting to trust him but logically questioning what his agenda was, rather than having stronger implicators of his iffy intentions.

    • @ForrestFox626
      @ForrestFox626 Před rokem

      The problem is the first adaption was just quirk and kind of boring.

  • @hopefuljillian7621
    @hopefuljillian7621 Před 4 lety +72

    "I've never read the manga, i know nothing about anything!'
    *refers to Akito as 'them'*
    i smell a lie

    • @raspberrysoda372
      @raspberrysoda372 Před 4 lety +19

      To be fair. It might be that he heard that spoiler without reading the manga. It is pretty easy to find out that spoiler just by googling Akito. That is a big reason I tell people who watch this series to never google anything about it becuase it is such an easy spoiler.

    • @Isabella.botto.
      @Isabella.botto. Před 3 lety +1

      @@raspberrysoda372 true, i've never read the manga but since the first anime version of fruits basket , there where people spoiling it on the comments lmao

  • @coRynnstar
    @coRynnstar Před 4 lety

    Nice! As someone who's read the series and looooves it to pieces, it's always interesting to hear takes from fans who haven't gotten to the parts of the story past the revelation of Kyo's "true form". I enjoyed the video - keep doing what you do!

  • @reemahlynch
    @reemahlynch Před 4 lety +1

    i just started watching it (2019) today and i love it!! i've already seen half of it hehe shigure is an amazing character and i love the tone of this series! one day i'll watch the original and love that too :) thank you for the video and can't wait to watch more

  • @nol5152
    @nol5152 Před 3 lety +3

    i'm gonna be honest with you....i clicked because there;s Shigure in the thumbnail that's all....you don't understand,i'm obsessed with this old man and it's not ok

  • @UndeadExorc1st
    @UndeadExorc1st Před 4 lety +8

    I only watched the first episodes of the re-make, so I went into this video blindly because I was curious.
    Wasn't there hints of Shigure's darker side in the original as well? I remember there was something that made him seem really shady to me which made my young self dislike him because he scared me...
    If I re-watch the original and find out why, I will go back and edit this comment (unless someone else corrects me before that)

  • @abyssalsakura6506
    @abyssalsakura6506 Před 4 lety +1

    Having only seen the 2001 anime and watching the latest reboot, I'm definitely curious what his circumstances and intentions are. It's clear he'll use anything to get what he wants, but I wonder if ultimately he'll be the last to crack under Tohru's goodness, even after (or in conjunction with) Akito. I know I can read the manga (I actually own all the volumes due to a lucky event), but I've decided to just stick with the anime's momentum because it's so satisfying to see these characters animated.