The Mongols Before Genghis Khan
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Before the rise of Genghis Khan-before the battles with samurai and the siege of Baghdad-the Mongols were merely one of many nomadic peoples enduring life on the periphery of powerful Chinese states. But the Mongol mode of living, beliefs about the world, and acquaintance with war turned them into relentless, elite warriors. This is the beautiful, cruel, and hardcore world that created the Mongols, and planted the seeds of an empire. Thank you to @TheJackmeisterMongolHistory for guidance on sources and script feedback
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I couldn't stop thinking about those paintings throughout the video. Great stuff! Congrats!!! They add SO VERY MUCH to the video.
@@VIK_1903 thanks! Check out the “How the Art is Made for History Dose” video if you’d like to see all the work that goes into it
Great work
Hey @@HistoryDose 👋
Love the work! In the future, can you do one on the battle of Wake Island?
What a nice boy Temujin is in this video! I hope he spreads peace and anti-war when he grows up.
he's destined to do big things, that's for sure
He did! He indeed spread peace throughout vast lands...through primal violence lol
He really throwing that cow towards us really a big guy generous gifter you know
world's greatest climate activist
@@HistoryDoseplease make a video mongol invasion of india or maybe a video on battle of Gangwana. Please
I'm Mongolian and I heard this story for my whole life. But this was totally different experience... Well done bruh!
That’s awesome to hear. I had some feedback and help from some Mongolians with this one!
@@HistoryDose Temujin's "Revenge against Tatars arc" in his youth period and "Rivalry with his bestie arc" is the most interesting ones.
Future videos!
@@munkhtuvshinmtxiaognu mughal timurid Mongolian empire
Super cool
Love me some Mongolian History
same 🏹
And beef
Turkic were great until they meet thier father Mongols
These are some of the best videos
The timing couldn't be better, leaving for a trip to Mongolia tomorrow to experience the Nomadic life :)
Amazing! We're going in August!
Safe trips! Rather than being in the city try to travel countryside
I’ve been coming to Mongolia, UB, for the past decade. I lived in Beijing for 13 years so it was easy. I am here again now, 48 hours so far. At my house on the outskirts of the city, doing some maintenance today. If you guys need anything while here let me know. I’ve got an extensive network here so can resolve most issues promptly.
Have fun in Mongolia everybody!
You are more like a Mongolian, you narrate the history better than all, just like epic history is for Napoleon. Please more videos on Mongols.
When that throat singing starts I get ready to pillage
His video on Stilicho is one of my favorite ever too.
@@DiviAugusti That's great to know, his artworks and graphics are amazing.
@@DiviAugusti He’ll yeah!
Most of the videos on world war history deal with the world conquest of Genghis Khan, the world conqueror of the world's most powerful empire, the Great Mongol Empire, but the history of the wars of conquest by the ancient Central Asian Mongol nomadic cavalry before Genghis Khan's world conquest is also incredibly powerful.
몽골사하면 세계 최강대국 대몽골제국의 세계 정복자 칭기스칸의 세계 정복에 대해 가르쳐주는 세계전쟁사 영상이 대부분이었는데, 칭기스칸의 세계 정복 이전의 고대 북방 중앙아시아 몽골족 유목 기병대들의 정복전쟁사도 엄청나게 막강하다.
10:27 my fav part!❤
Music creating chills
Thanks! Joe (the artist and my brother) made it himself
Combined with awesome paintings that's for sure
The music should be on Apple Music or Spotify, it is so good
Reminds me of total war Attila.
@DiviAugusti oh man that game is fun i wish they did a mongol invasion in Shogun 2 total war, but i believe the og shogun total war did
Your Mongol series was your best work by far. But how can such masterpieces be complete, if Timur isn't mentioned?
Timur needs a proper series of videos
@@HistoryDose You could probably do ten-plus videos on Timur alone
I’d argue that his descendant Babur the Mughal empire needs his own series too
@@HistoryDoseif the campaign in Simsir doesn’t get a video of its own I swear-
Mongolian history is soo fascinating for me and people definitely don't talk about them enough. Genghis was a kid collecting wild berries and then all of a sudden he has an army of hundreds of thousands fearless and brutal men pilling up mountains of dead bodies.
Not true he was very conniving as a kid but to be far he had be.
When was Gengish Khan a woman collecting wild berries. I saw in his life story, that he killed his brother, when he was ten years old, because his brother was selfish. He had very tough childhood being a slave after his father died around the same time, but he fought for his freedom and became very good military general even after losing to his friend Jamukha in a battle, that sent him as a slave to India.
@@peterblanchard4109 How are the things ive wrote aren't true tho?
its crazy how beautiful these artworks are, awesome job. As a mongolian the historical accuracy is on point in these videos.
Thanks so much! We did a ton of research for the art, down to the exact placement of seams on pre Empire helmets. Check out our "How the Art is Made" video to get a glimpse of the collaboration and research we do to perfect the visuals.
Damn that's a nice prequel, can't wait for season 2
Multi-video series on the Rise of Genghis Khan will come eventually
I'm telling you, you are one of the best history content creators on the youtube. I found myself constantly gripping my drinks cup as the video progressed, releasing and subconsciously gripping it again. You and your brother have a remarkable talent. I hope you take the step to even longer videos, even if they can't always have all the art from your brother. I want to hear you on ancient southeast Asia, and ancient central America and even ancient Australia and the South Pacific for an hour or more. You are talented. Can't wait to hear more.
You made my day. Thanks so much. More videos coming soon!
I couldn't agree more. I could watch this for hours. I'm always left needing more
Great video as always! Have fun on your trip!
Thanks! It'll be an adventure 🏹🐴
Excellent work! This really came together very well, better than I had imagined!
Thanks so much, Jack! Means a lot!
Criminally underrated channel. As always beautifully crafted artwork and fascinating narration
@@Zelein the story telling is A plus with not much animation to work with
Awesome video. Great prologue to one of the most famous leaders from the past 👌
Wow! This is high-quality content. Great addition to highlight that dairy foods such as cheese and fermented mare's milk were staples that provided strength to the steppe nomad warriors.
This is actually something I’ve barely learned about.
Thanks! This period is often not discussed at all when covering the Mongol Empire, but a growing scholarship, archeology, and critical reading of the early sources reveals quite a bit about the pre-Temujin Mongols. These dynamics (such as the Jin executing Ambaghai) also explain the early Mongol expansion. I thought this would give some necessary context to the rest of our Mongol videos, where it felt like we were watching the Mongol armies but didn't quite "know" the Mongols themselves.
~Chris
literally the only channel I deactivate my ad block for 😅
This might be the most underrated channels right now. I. Abt believe more people haven’t discovered it and made it a part of their daily routine. This might be the most appealing and digestible and legitimately entertaining history content out there. Truly turning middle school lunch table debates “what would happen if a samurai fought a Viking” into reality. I hope you get the recognition you deserve.
there i was few hours ago wondering ''Its been a while since i watched a history dose video'' and got home with a pleasant surprise..Keep up the excellent work guys
Thanks!!
Whats Next ? Timujin Vs his childhood friend Jamukha?
I've been reading a fascinating series on Genghis Khan and this has been a wonderful video on his father thanks guys :)
Thanks! Which series?
@@HistoryDose Conn Iggulden's series beginning with Wolf of the Plains. It's a historical fiction series. He does a great job I've just finished the second book and I would recommend it to anyone who enjoys that's genre.
you and your brother are both so talented. Honestly my favorite channel on YT at the moment!
Thank you!
Always a good time when History dose drops a video
When Temüjin was a boy, the center of the steppe world was the Orkhon Valley, the old imperial site of the Türks. The valley was dominated by the Kereit. To the west, on the upper Irtysh River, lay Naiman territory. The Kereit and Naiman, not the Mongols, were masters of the steppe. The Kereit and Naiman elites spoke Turkic and had partially converted to Christianity under the influence of the Nestorian Church. In an effort to out do each other, To'oril of the Kereit and Tayang Qan of the Naiman accumulated men, weapons, alliances, and prestige. Yesügei Ba'atur sided with the Kereit. Later Chinggis Khan would subdue the Kereit and the Naiman in the course of a protracted effort to defeat all challengers among the steppe peoples.
I wouldn't go as far as saying "master's of the steppe" bc they all operated separate from one another until they were unifiied. they at the time were larger & more powerful. but the tatar's themselves too were also a dominant tribes on the steppes & grasslands, hence why other sedentary civilizations categorized all nomads as "tatars", the tatars had wealth the mongols never seen.
Let's not assume anything, brother. Beside Naimans, tribes like Keraites, and Merkits were pretty much thought as mongolic. You have no proof of their elite speaking turkic or whatever.
However, Rashid Al-Din Hamadani recorded in his Jami Al Tawarikh that Keraite was similar in language with Mongols.
Kereit and the Naiman are all Mongolians in Mongolia. The Mongolian provinces of the steppe used to talk to each other and understand each other. The Turks were Kipchaks and Seljuk Turks. In 1206, all the tribes united to form the Great Mongolia were Mongols. They spoke and wrote Mongolian and followed Mongolian law. When the Mongol Empire was established, all Mongols became kings and baron. Maybe later some Mongols became Turks.
Everyone in here making assumptions.... the truth is, it's difficult to determine when turkic language ended & when mongolic began.
Bc many turks under temujin eventually did become mongol.
The uyghurs willingly went to temujin, & sought the Mongols protection, in turn, genghis khan knew the importance of the written language & required his sons, generals etc learn uyghur script, which was later called chagatai turk, which is essentially their old language, which is today's karluk turk. Even the capital name karakorum is essentially both turko-mongol, essentially black fort in turk
😂😂😂😂😂 nations turkey appeared 🦃
Yall are by far my favorite history channel on CZcams. I really appreciate how immersive your videos are. Keep up the good work!
Thanks so much! We put a ton of work into getting the details right and enhancing immersion, so this means a lot
We need a video of temujin and how he became Genghis Khan 💯
I can't get enough of this video
Thank you! That'll be the sequel to this one.
~Chris
@@HistoryDose💯
Mongols really a one hit wonder in history 🤣💀like they just had that one time they went crazy and after that it was like they never existed
Amazing video! 👏 I've been loving these Mongol videos so far, this one was a fascination to learn about before the Mongols soon rise to glory.
Thank you! It’s a part of Mongol history most retellings don’t explore. Keep an eye out for the sequel episodes on the Rise of Temujin later this year
Epic vide great job as always! thanks for making these videos !!
Thanks!! This was a lot of work and fun to make
With this backstory you understand why Temujin became Great Genghis.Fatherless at a young age,his mother siblings and their mother being abandoned by his clan and left to fend for themselves in the wilderness;his actions throughout his life were probably driven by a desire to prove themselves to his people and bring glory back to his fathers name
Absolutely appreciate your content, much love
Thanks so much!
This was epic. Please do more Mongol history. It's hands down the best videos you make.
your and your brother's work is awesome! please keep up the great job!
The name Mongol appeared first in the eighth-century Chinese records of the Tang dynasty, but only resurfaced in the eleventh century during the rule of the Khitan. At first, it was applied to some small and insignificant nomadic tribes in the area of the Onon River. In the thirteenth century, however, the name Mongol grew into an umbrella term for a large group of Mongolic and Turkic tribes united under the rule of Genghis Khan. It is not clear what the Mongols called themselves in their own languages. In fact, the specific origin of the Mongolic languages is unclear. Some linguists have proposed a link to languages like Tungusic and Turkic, which are often included alongside Mongolic in a hypothetical language group called “Altaic languages”.
Mongols called themselves "Mongol". What do you mean? Concept of "mongolian" and "mongolian language" was created by the time of Chingghis.
Xiaognu,gorturk,mughal timurid Mongolian empire
The Kitan people's language was mongolic as it had more mongolic words than chinese or turkic and even before them the xiongnu which in classic chinese means hunnu or the huns...
@@calvinsuu1949 all I understand from this though is that them Northern tribes have been given China problems even before Ghenghis Khan
@@ernyserok8278 not necessarily true man, its very difficult to know when "turkic" ended & "mongolian" began, bc during the time of chiingis, other nations whom the mongols fought & conquered didn't call the mongols "mongols" as we do today, they were called "tatars" by numerous nations for a very long time, up until the court of kublai when he reinforced "mongol" around 1250 or so
Your mongol content is the best on CZcams. Literally cannot get enough of it
Thank you! We've got a lot more in store for the Mongols. Keep watching :)
@@HistoryDose awesome looking forward to it !!
The mongol history videos has always been my favourite in your channel!!
great to see more lets gooo
thanks for another great video. love the effort that goes into these videos. especially the mongols, its a sort of secondary thing that i'm immensely interested in.
Thanks so much! This was a lot of hard work. We are super interested in the Mongols too 😀
we all heard about from genghis khan starting his conquest but never before we heard before his time. thanks for the video. 🐎🏹
Some channels may dot their i's and cross there t's with their strict factualness, but you guys are the only folks who have ever rivalled historia civilis and Dan Carlin in your ability to evoke the feeling of the time period and people you discuss.
Beautiful work as always.
the narration, music and of course the real art in these videos. Awesome stuff
Man, i really hope yall take off on here. Every video has been perfect. i wish there was more content, the story telling the visuals everything. Thank you for every video
Thank you so much! We're baffled too as to why this video hasn't gotten much attention.
Can’t wait to finish this one! I’d love for you guys to consider doing a video on Timur one day!
Another amazing video well done
Had no idea their was this much established historicity preceding the birth of Genghis... kudos to Jackmeister I assume 👍
He’s great! He helped give guidance and feedback in my research and writing of this! We chat about these sources in the livestream we just did with Jack (found in the Live tab of our channel).
Cheers from Mongolia. You’ve taught me more about my ancestors’ history than any other person or class 😅
Love the mongols series. My favorite by far.
Another excellent video on the Mongols ! Strange, but youtube didn't notify me this was out. I don't receive any notifications even though they're turned on
I’ve heard this a number of times! Are your phone settings configured to allow notifications from CZcams?
I’m so thankful for the effort and artistry put into this content, especially as we see the rise of slop history accounts with ai images
Thanks! We break down a lot of the precise details in the art in the latest livestream on this episode!
Fantastic storytelling and art 🔥
Thank you so much 😀
The art really sets this channel apart from others.
Thanks!! Check out the “How the Art is Made for History Dose” video released a month ago if you haven’t yet 😀
You paint an incredible narrative picture while being frank w hstorical facts, and I have no idea how I hadn't come across your channel earlier. You just added another subscriber to your horde, great khan!
Thanks so much! Glad this video is reaching a new audience. The full script with footnotes and academic sources is available in the description. Also be sure to watch the “How the Art is Made for History Dose” video to see the process!
Another great History Dose video!! This is by far one of the best history channels on CZcams. Love the art too!!
Thanks!!
Your brother is insane talented! I always wondered who did the art work since I saw the Viking vs Native American video.
Thanks so much! Check out our "How the Art is Made for History Dose" video for a better explanation! ~Chris
I rewatch all the videos on your channel, they are incredible. You've hit on a perfect combo of narration, artwork and pacing. Hope you keep making these for a long time.
Thank you! Happy with the way this one turned out-there will be sequels!
Real history. Real research. Detailed writing. Real ART. Excellent narrative history. I could watch this stuff for hours. The fact that you're making these videos about Central Asian history is just icing on the cake. Thank you!
Excellent video. This is my absolute favorite topic in history. Well-done!
The feelings y'all's art evokes is indescribably awesome
Thank you so much! Check out the "How the Art is Made for History Dose" video to see Joe the artist's process
~Chris
I believe that you should write a book or two. With your command over the language and your style of expression, I think you'll do well. The animations are cool but something about your oration makes it so interesting.
Really appreciate it! I'd love to do so someday
~Chris
Incredible how any society with such sparse resources could brave inhospitable environments as the Gobi. Winter temperatures can reach as low as −40 °C, and the silence is so intense it drives men mad…
awesome video the most accurate history video i have seen respect brother
Thank you!
The Thunder of His Hooves echo through the Ages
Literally another awesome video. I am constantly wowed and impressed with your work.
This video makes me wish I could join you guys on your journey to Mongolia, but alas, this will not be.
I would love to know if you’ll get to meet or see The Hu. They’re one of my favorite bands, a Mongolian Rock band.
Your dedication to the artistry and quality of your videos is seen. Criminally underrated channel.
Very awesome work. Waiting for the next episode.
That means a lot from you! Thanks for the guidance with this one!
This channel is my new history channel
Thank you for this, can't wait to start. Not sure it's the right niche but if anyone's radically obsessed with ultra-in-depth Mongol warfare I strongly recommend Schwerpunkt's videos series: they make the best military historical introduction to the period. It's not just about the Mongols but everything around, there's vast reference to the peoples that influenced the same Chingizds and how Western and Eastern steppes warfare evolved during the centuries. Keep up with the amazing job
Its Chinggis not chingiz.
Another badass history dose. Well-written, visually striking, thoughtful sound design
fantastic video
Thank you 😊
What a shame your channel somehow fell off seemingly overnight. Its probably the algorithm but i just wanted to say your content is absolutely fantastic
Yeah, we are stunned too. Views just aren’t coming in the last few months. Thanks for the kind words.
Brilliant! More history of the Eurasian Steppe, Please 🎉
We will absolutely return for the Rise of Temujin series 🏹
1 biggest misconception everyone has about Mongols is that there were not a specific, different kind of people called Mongols. The term "Mongol" came to existence after the tribes were gathered into one. In this video the map refers to Genghis khan's tribe as Mongols but actually it was Borjigin. His tribe name was Borjigin just like Jamukha's tribe was Jadaran and Subutai's tribe was called Uriankhai and all of those tribes were Mongols!. What I'm trying to say is that the term Mongols is not 1 tribe but its a term used to call everyone who lived in the Mongolian Plateau.
That itself is actually a misconception, but the history is complicated so I can understand the confusion! The Mongols ("Mengwu" and "Menggu) are likely mentioned as far back as Tang texts (618-906), but the identity was nonetheless in flux despite a common language and traditions. At the setting of this video, the 12th century, the "Mongols" would have referred to the specific group shown on the map, generally under various khans and leaders but broadly united under people like Qabul and Ambaghai Khan. When we hear terms like the Borjigin, Taichud, Jurkhin, etc. these are sometimes nebulously called tribes, but are more like clans or ruling houses-royal lineages rather than an ethnic group. All of those ruling houses are distinct but Mongol, and often allied through Mongol confederations.
The role of Temujin in creating a new Mongol identity is that he will (largely) dissolve a lot of the distinctions between Mongol and non-Mongol eastern steppe peoples in his conquest of the steppe and establishment of the empire, such that neighboring steppe groups such as the Tatars, Kereyids, etc. come to be called Mongols by virtue of their allegiance and subject status to the Mongol Khan. See the bibliography for some academic reading on the subject! I’d recommend Christopher Atwood's short piece on early Chinese interactions with the Mongols. Hope this helps clear up the confusion.
Hi Chris and Joe!
I love your content and have recommended it to friends and family.
I hope the algorithm looks more kindly on you soon.
There are a lot of annoying AI voiced competitor channels out there and I just want to say that their recycled videos and imagery pale in comparison to your original artwork and narration.
Thanks
Alaster
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thank you!!
I'm loving this Documentaries allredy I so forward to this new new doc
Another great video
Much appreciated 🙌
Great video
You've taught me more about history than any of my high school classes, thank your your amazing story telling and your brother joseph your beautiful artwork doesn't go unnoticed its a staple of what makes your channel so great.
Thanks so much 🙌
@@HistoryDoseyou’re welcome i love your content and the history you cover (:
Best CZcams channel
Superb 👌🏻
The narration, the writing, the art, and oh the music! I can't imagine a better way to experience and learn history! Thank you for all this hard work!
We love doing it! Thanks so much!
Such an awesome story. I loooooove the visuals - they make me feel like I'm there.
Thanks so much, Rachel! Check out the “How the Art is Made for History Dose” video on the channel page if you’d like to see how we make them
Another enjoyable video!
First comment: stoked for this one! Thank you for what you do
I thought you said you stroked for this 😅
@@takashimitsuya7065 the air above the gutter is fresher my friend haha
another banger as always from history dose
The most beautiful history CZcams channel
This is so sick
History dose has a new video. I click. Simple as that. 😊
It's for the time the mongols were unified under one man.
Love this ❤️❤️
Much appreciated!
love your videos. Amazing work, keep it up:)
This is very thrilling
It’s crazy what you guys make. And every shot is painting worthy. Thank you for your hard work and deep subjects.
Thank you! Check out the “How the Art is Made for History Dose” video to see the research and work that goes into each piece of art. Any specific subject you’d like to see us cover?
Why is this channel not popular???
the algorithm comes and goes--but yeah, we are currently in a valley
great video! loved the artwork and music too. and i hadn't heard any story of his father specifically, very interesting
On a barely related note, if you haven't seen the Russian band Ghengis Khan, and their many hits, including the eponymous Ghengis Khan 1 and 2, and Moscow, you should look them up here on the Tube. You'll be glad you did, I promise.
Im pretty sure they were mostly german not russian
Algorithm brought me here & i’m glad it did! I’m subscribing 🎉
nice to know the video is reaching some new people! Check out our other Mongol videos!
Hey guys, it seems like, for some reason, CZcams doesn’t want the viewers to learn good history as this channel has been decimated by the algorithm lately. This channel is extremely underrated and one of the BEST places to learn history on the platform. And it has great visuals too! So it would be thoughtful if you guys took some time to leave a comment and a like on a video you haven’t yet seen. I’d recommend their recent video on the war against Nez Perce Indians.