I've seen a video recently where some FF lady reacted to an intense death metal song. She called it great workout music, because the singer sounded like a monster and she would imagine herself running away from the monster, it would make her want to run even faster. And I (with M sensory) was completely perplexed when she said that, I was like: "Really? This makes me feel like _I'm_ the monster chasing people, _that's_ why I'd wanna be running faster." But then it clicked for me - it's type related.
This is SO interesting!! >:)) Ne tangent, but this vaguely reminds me of a thought I had a few years ago. I wondered what would happen if I showed a large sample of people, say, a video of a fox chasing a hare. Which animal would people root for? Would there be a reason behind which one a person favored over the other? It would be so cool to see which people anxiously wished for the hare to get away and which people would laugh with the fox and cry, “GET HIM, you’re so close!!” hahaha. That situation itself is truly just part of the food chain of nature, so I wonder if typology could explain specific reactions (though stereotypical associations towards foxes and hares might get in the way). Just a thought?
@@sophiaredwood5825 That'd really be fascinating to see. I can't imagine many people rooting for the fox. Mainly because we like cute animals and don't like to see them get hurt. But if there are, what would you suspect they might have in common? Alternatively, maybe have a cat chase a bug or something. Nothing too generally hated like wasps, nothing too cute like a rabbit ^^
I realized that just now with this video, and also saw how it relates to lyrics and lyrical presence. I love listening to Meshuggah because it's heavily focused on polyrhythms, and sound in and of itself. I do enjoy some blues or hip hop once in a while, but I couldn't pinpoint exactly WHY I absolutely despise listening to a lot of rap, country, or even songs in genres I enjoy more like metal and retrowave. Then it clicked! I don't like music that's focused on lyrical content, because it takes away the power to create my own narrative in whatever I'm trying to do. I love heavy lyrics about deep concepts, but I need to get hooked on the music first. If the lyrics are too prominent for me to enjoy the music and not see it as merely "accompaniment," I will immediately lose track of any conversation I'm in and feel like a kid who lost their mom at the supermarket! And that's why I like Aphex Twin.
I guess head-banging would be the ultimate masculine "dance". It might also depend on what's being activated. If you're in your head at the time and you are have masculine T, then you might dance in a masculine way for a while even if you have feminine S. BTW, I love Shan's top.
I mean I'm FF and headbang at concerts all the time. But you can see a clear difference between me (F Se last) and my friend (M Se first). He goes so hard people back away, but I'm in my bubble just kind of loosely whipping my head around so as not to get a headache tomorrow.
I love this so much, as a DJ I have watched many videos of myself spinning and I'm very much the guy in red, head moving to the beat and lots of punching the air. I've seen other DJs doing intricate flowing dance moves while spinning and as they get more comfortable they really get crazy with feminine hand waves and spins. Also...Sorry Dave but the knobs do matter especially if your listening to and preparing another track in the background, there are also a ton of effects you can activate in real time to distort and alter the music.
I think those knobs are _supposed_ to deal with EQ under some freq. band, but I think you're right Dave. Literally every club I've been to there's some DJ at the front doing whatever the fuck, but there's always this guy at the back on some little computer with a bunch of sliders on the screen, who is actually responsible for it sounding good. Also I've never been to a club where the music has actually sounded good, so take that for what it's worth.
As a former sound guy, you might be right, I think it varies in how much DJs are “acting” though a lot of them are actually transitioning between songs/bringing in effects/tempo changes/etc however their biggest job is to just be hype guys if they’re any good. Sound guys are responsible for making it sound good, so at a club there usually should be another guy setting delays on speakers, setting the overall EQs, limiters, comps, etc
@@friendlyanomaly6109 i am talking about the first modal letter, but I honestly don't know, i would guess masculine sensory is more dominant when it comes to sex regardless whether it is demon or saviour (my opinion, take this with a grain of salt)
The hands are tied to De sexual. The first thing we notice on a stranger are their hands, from there we make an assessment of whether or not they're safe/friendly. Dave is F De = Gay hands. Shan is M De = Scyther chops.
I am very Masculine Sensory. My dancing is very punchy. I decided to learn to dance in a feminine sensory way. I'd say now I can. However, I often feel very restrained while doing it. So I don't do it as much. I've noticed some people think the punchy dancing is to get noticed from the comments. However it's due to passion and expression.
Could it be that some music appeals to sensory more than specific emotions, and other music appeals to specific feelings and not as much to sensory? So the difference in reaction is between the feminine and masculine sensory/feelings. So a person with masculine sensory and masculine feelings would almost always be punchy.
What you said about the body and hands was genius. I’m MF and got into a fight in middle school. I’d bet the dude was FM, started punching me, but it really didn’t hurt. But I couldn’t bring myself to punch back because I (my Di) wasn’t angry, so the only one I threw at him was a softie.
I try to imagine myself doing feminine dancing and I just can’t, like how do they let their arms noodle out like that? Are they actually letting go of control of their arms, surely not? It makes no effing sense
I wish I were a burnt-out 45 year old European man who plays techno music every weekend at depressing clubs with scary Russian bouncers and dances robotically and has taken so much Molly that I have early onset Parkinson's...
I’ve noticed in my workouts, my favorite thing to do is punch with my weights. I don’t like punching without my weights. Maybe masculine sensory? I don’t know. I’m currently being typed now. I have like top 5 guesses, so I’ll see whatever they guess.
Also, I wish yall watched Drag Race ahahha This Jorgeous "Punching the Ghost" move would have been in this video czcams.com/video/nO61sBSW6Kw/video.html
This video is so interesting...all of it. I love when you guys link typology to music. I can relate to connecting to both masculine and feminine with dancing too. Dave, are you a drummer? Would you say most drummers (and heavy metal screamers) are masculine sensory? I'm INTP so I have 3rd slot Si (not Se), but I definitely connect mostly with the beat when dancing (as a drummer and lover of hip hop / rap as well, and a sucker for music with a lot of drums and bass), but also like some more flowy interpretive dancing as well (in my kitchen rarely with my kids...not in public :). I wonder if that's feminine Ne being expressed (in my head I think I'm connecting the music and lyrics to logical abstract connections in real time when dancing like that)? Fe in my 4th slot makes me nervous to dance in front of people for fear of my dancing looking stupid or not good enough. I'm not really sure how to tell whether my Fe is masculine or feminine. I love all kinds of music and connect deeply with the emotional stuff as well. Emotional music seems like a healthy way of regularly releasing Fi for me from my subconscious (my 8th function). It's my daily therapeutic. When I drum, my natural strength is being very consistent/solid and very much right on top of the beat (usually driving it, not slightly lagging behind it). I'm guessing I'm masculine Si. My weakness is the fills (Se is my blind spot...I imagine the high Se users are much better at fills and percussion fillers, being more creative on the spot with drum solos, and maybe not as strong naturally as the Si people at being consistent/solid).
well the knobs are filters, eq and effects. good djs even connect other devices for editing loops or even creating live loops. for example drum machines. anyway, bad dj's prerecord their sets, if they prerecord, they are there for the show not for the art of djing. 😬
I used to barely ever dance, when I did it was punchy/masculine. I took MDMA in my early 20s, and now my dancing is a mix between masculine/feminine. I dance more since too. It's a fluid punchy mix. House music I dance more fluidly, and with Drum n' Bass I'm more punchy, but most music it's a mix.
Doesn't the music bring out the masculine/feminine energies in us though, and not the other way around? When I listen to Grime/Hip-hop I make gun signs with my hand, but I move and feel like a bitch when I listen to some reggaeton.
Funny, I think the MM is super funny to watch xD they're trying so hard to impress people while looking like complete goofballs, while the FF are in tune with the music and the music is moving them and they can dance with it instead of moving and competing against it
Okay I’m scared I’m gonna get blocked or banned (is that possible on CZcams? LOL) if I comment this too much but DAVE AND SHAN CAN WE PLS KNOW UR ZODIAC SIGNS 😭 I wanna know what y’all are so baddddd I have so many guesses
I should have known i was FF way before getting my type back from you guys, I'll literally be out just grocery shopping and I'll hear the music and start moving to it without even thinking too much about it lmao haha FF SeFi CSPB
Maybe the REALLY good dancers that we get mesmerized are the ones who master both masculine and feminine dancing and know how to "sew them together"
Beautiful way of putting it!
Shan is SO good at makeup, also that shirt looks so good on her.
Hmm, does all savior Feminine Se good at make-up?
It does look good
That's double feminine SF for ya 🙌
She has beautiful bone structure and gorgeous facial features to start
Yeah she's one of the main reasons I watch this channel
I've seen a video recently where some FF lady reacted to an intense death metal song. She called it great workout music, because the singer sounded like a monster and she would imagine herself running away from the monster, it would make her want to run even faster. And I (with M sensory) was completely perplexed when she said that, I was like: "Really? This makes me feel like _I'm_ the monster chasing people, _that's_ why I'd wanna be running faster." But then it clicked for me - it's type related.
This is SO interesting!! >:)) Ne tangent, but this vaguely reminds me of a thought I had a few years ago. I wondered what would happen if I showed a large sample of people, say, a video of a fox chasing a hare. Which animal would people root for? Would there be a reason behind which one a person favored over the other? It would be so cool to see which people anxiously wished for the hare to get away and which people would laugh with the fox and cry, “GET HIM, you’re so close!!” hahaha. That situation itself is truly just part of the food chain of nature, so I wonder if typology could explain specific reactions (though stereotypical associations towards foxes and hares might get in the way). Just a thought?
@@sophiaredwood5825 That'd really be fascinating to see. I can't imagine many people rooting for the fox. Mainly because we like cute animals and don't like to see them get hurt. But if there are, what would you suspect they might have in common?
Alternatively, maybe have a cat chase a bug or something. Nothing too generally hated like wasps, nothing too cute like a rabbit ^^
I realized that just now with this video, and also saw how it relates to lyrics and lyrical presence.
I love listening to Meshuggah because it's heavily focused on polyrhythms, and sound in and of itself. I do enjoy some blues or hip hop once in a while, but I couldn't pinpoint exactly WHY I absolutely despise listening to a lot of rap, country, or even songs in genres I enjoy more like metal and retrowave.
Then it clicked! I don't like music that's focused on lyrical content, because it takes away the power to create my own narrative in whatever I'm trying to do.
I love heavy lyrics about deep concepts, but I need to get hooked on the music first. If the lyrics are too prominent for me to enjoy the music and not see it as merely "accompaniment," I will immediately lose track of any conversation I'm in and feel like a kid who lost their mom at the supermarket!
And that's why I like Aphex Twin.
So, when it comes to rhythm/dance, the melody is F and the beat is M.
And, one can move with either or both.
Sounds correct.
I guess head-banging would be the ultimate masculine "dance". It might also depend on what's being activated. If you're in your head at the time and you are have masculine T, then you might dance in a masculine way for a while even if you have feminine S. BTW, I love Shan's top.
I mean I'm FF and headbang at concerts all the time. But you can see a clear difference between me (F Se last) and my friend (M Se first). He goes so hard people back away, but I'm in my bubble just kind of loosely whipping my head around so as not to get a headache tomorrow.
I love this so much, as a DJ I have watched many videos of myself spinning and I'm very much the guy in red, head moving to the beat and lots of punching the air. I've seen other DJs doing intricate flowing dance moves while spinning and as they get more comfortable they really get crazy with feminine hand waves and spins. Also...Sorry Dave but the knobs do matter especially if your listening to and preparing another track in the background, there are also a ton of effects you can activate in real time to distort and alter the music.
I love everything y’all do but as a choreographer for 20 years this is one of my absolute favorites. 🤯🤯🤯
The knobs are classified DJ lore, you just wouldn’t get it Dave
Dave ranting about the nobs/things is hilarious. 😆
It is INTJ sensitivity towards sensory: if it cannot physically hurt you, it does not exist.
Observer freak outs XD
Best notification of my dayyy
Watching as soon as I get home
~(maybe FF) Ni/Ti SC/P(B)
I think those knobs are _supposed_ to deal with EQ under some freq. band, but I think you're right Dave. Literally every club I've been to there's some DJ at the front doing whatever the fuck, but there's always this guy at the back on some little computer with a bunch of sliders on the screen, who is actually responsible for it sounding good. Also I've never been to a club where the music has actually sounded good, so take that for what it's worth.
only the best dj's know how to use the knobs properly, the rest of them just act most of the time
As a former sound guy, you might be right, I think it varies in how much DJs are “acting” though a lot of them are actually transitioning between songs/bringing in effects/tempo changes/etc however their biggest job is to just be hype guys if they’re any good. Sound guys are responsible for making it sound good, so at a club there usually should be another guy setting delays on speakers, setting the overall EQs, limiters, comps, etc
So the masculine tries to control the music and get ahead of it, the feminine rides the waves.
The feminine sensory rides. I like that, it explains Why feminine sensory is submissive sexually.
@@lonelypad3993
Is Feminine Intuition?
@@friendlyanomaly6109 i am talking about the first modal letter, but I honestly don't know, i would guess masculine sensory is more dominant when it comes to sex regardless whether it is demon or saviour (my opinion, take this with a grain of salt)
The hands are tied to De sexual. The first thing we notice on a stranger are their hands, from there we make an assessment of whether or not they're safe/friendly. Dave is F De = Gay hands. Shan is M De = Scyther chops.
The way these two gel on delivering a message is cool
Omg, I’ve never seen Shans eyes look so beautiful.
It is very beautiful makeup
I am very Masculine Sensory. My dancing is very punchy. I decided to learn to dance in a feminine sensory way. I'd say now I can. However, I often feel very restrained while doing it. So I don't do it as much. I've noticed some people think the punchy dancing is to get noticed from the comments. However it's due to passion and expression.
I don't know. I can be either depending on my mood and the song, kind of like what Shannon said. I tend to move all over the floor too. 😄
Could it be that some music appeals to sensory more than specific emotions, and other music appeals to specific feelings and not as much to sensory? So the difference in reaction is between the feminine and masculine sensory/feelings. So a person with masculine sensory and masculine feelings would almost always be punchy.
@@jimmyclaros7481 That does make sense. No pun intended.😉
Start a goddamn podcast already
What you said about the body and hands was genius. I’m MF and got into a fight in middle school. I’d bet the dude was FM, started punching me, but it really didn’t hurt. But I couldn’t bring myself to punch back because I (my Di) wasn’t angry, so the only one I threw at him was a softie.
I try to imagine myself doing feminine dancing and I just can’t, like how do they let their arms noodle out like that? Are they actually letting go of control of their arms, surely not? It makes no effing sense
Shannon's shirt is so retro 70's!
lol you're killing me with "the knob turning isn't real". I wasn't expecting you to play trance, its pretty good actually.
I recommend watching thom yorke moves on "Lotus flower". That is so gold.
Where can I see the database of all the people and their OPS type?
I wish I were a burnt-out 45 year old European man who plays techno music every weekend at depressing clubs with scary Russian bouncers and dances robotically and has taken so much Molly that I have early onset Parkinson's...
I’ve noticed in my workouts, my favorite thing to do is punch with my weights. I don’t like punching without my weights. Maybe masculine sensory? I don’t know.
I’m currently being typed now. I have like top 5 guesses, so I’ll see whatever they guess.
I had the same thought about drummers! 😄
i would really love an interview or somthing with someone who's typed and trans, esp if they're still transitioning
shan is gorgeous
these beats are sick
Also, I wish yall watched Drag Race ahahha This Jorgeous "Punching the Ghost" move would have been in this video
czcams.com/video/nO61sBSW6Kw/video.html
Does anyone remember dance slams? Smashes? What was it🤔.... when dudes got together to aggressively dance 👀
Slam dancing. Then riot grrl came around and said that kind of dancing prevented women who were just as into the music as getting close to the stage.
Mmmm I think Masculine energy follows more the rythms and the femenine is more of the melody
This video is so interesting...all of it. I love when you guys link typology to music. I can relate to connecting to both masculine and feminine with dancing too.
Dave, are you a drummer? Would you say most drummers (and heavy metal screamers) are masculine sensory?
I'm INTP so I have 3rd slot Si (not Se), but I definitely connect mostly with the beat when dancing (as a drummer and lover of hip hop / rap as well, and a sucker for music with a lot of drums and bass), but also like some more flowy interpretive dancing as well (in my kitchen rarely with my kids...not in public :). I wonder if that's feminine Ne being expressed (in my head I think I'm connecting the music and lyrics to logical abstract connections in real time when dancing like that)?
Fe in my 4th slot makes me nervous to dance in front of people for fear of my dancing looking stupid or not good enough. I'm not really sure how to tell whether my Fe is masculine or feminine. I love all kinds of music and connect deeply with the emotional stuff as well. Emotional music seems like a healthy way of regularly releasing Fi for me from my subconscious (my 8th function). It's my daily therapeutic.
When I drum, my natural strength is being very consistent/solid and very much right on top of the beat (usually driving it, not slightly lagging behind it). I'm guessing I'm masculine Si. My weakness is the fills (Se is my blind spot...I imagine the high Se users are much better at fills and percussion fillers, being more creative on the spot with drum solos, and maybe not as strong naturally as the Si people at being consistent/solid).
lol the knobs are manipulating the next song that you're not hearing yet in order to set up the transition
well the knobs are filters, eq and effects.
good djs even connect other devices for editing loops or even creating live loops. for example drum machines.
anyway, bad dj's prerecord their sets, if they prerecord, they are there for the show not for the art of djing. 😬
I used to barely ever dance, when I did it was punchy/masculine. I took MDMA in my early 20s, and now my dancing is a mix between masculine/feminine. I dance more since too. It's a fluid punchy mix. House music I dance more fluidly, and with Drum n' Bass I'm more punchy, but most music it's a mix.
Doesn't the music bring out the masculine/feminine energies in us though, and not the other way around?
When I listen to Grime/Hip-hop I make gun signs with my hand, but I move and feel like a bitch when I listen to some reggaeton.
Sharon is so awkward. It's adorable. 😆😆😆
I have feminine sensory and I bob like an angsty peanuts character. Checks out.
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Listen Linda
Shan obviously masculine sensor cos she couldn’t even hear the melody that the feminine sensor guy was dancing to til Dave pointed it out
No matter the song, everybody dances on "turi ip ip ip" no matter which dance they perform. Also NAPOLI MILANO
Axl Rose… double feminine?
Dissapointed you didn't make a video of you two dancing
Shan would you enjoy Bardic Medieval Eminem Lord Shady?
MRE’s!!! 🤣🤣🤣
Today I learned that I dance Nonbinary
wiggle wiggle wiggle
This was a good one lol
I definitely have masculine sensory. Lol
Can't believe you cut the song before it dropped... Not happy.... Ugh
great but i gotta get the song at 4:00
what are the feminine sensors doing at a metal concert?
Riding the waves.
Duh...
Funny, I think the MM is super funny to watch xD they're trying so hard to impress people while looking like complete goofballs, while the FF are in tune with the music and the music is moving them and they can dance with it instead of moving and competing against it
the ff guy looked like the goofball to me
@@autismo4029
Which bozos looked like the goof ball?
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Okay I’m scared I’m gonna get blocked or banned (is that possible on CZcams? LOL) if I comment this too much but DAVE AND SHAN CAN WE PLS KNOW UR ZODIAC SIGNS 😭 I wanna know what y’all are so baddddd I have so many guesses
Makes me think 4th slot S is just a mess. *starts punching air, thrusting hips* *body wiggle, gay hands* *imitates kung fu movie*
A bit simplistic with the gender stuff.
They're talking about cognitive functions, not gender. There is a correlation tho.
Most of the times, it is simple
I should have known i was FF way before getting my type back from you guys, I'll literally be out just grocery shopping and I'll hear the music and start moving to it without even thinking too much about it lmao haha
FF SeFi CSPB