As a leftist/atheist, I think this is actually a very good explanation of postmodernism. I just want to point out one thing that conservative commentators always skip over or misrepresent in their analysis, which is that postmodernism is more a condition of our modern reality than a bunch of French philosophers who conspired to kill absolute truth in the 1960's. With modern media, global supply chains, corporate hierarchies, governments that present themselves as democratic but are dominated by an elite ruling class, etc. we are increasingly disconnected and alienated from society and our material surroundings. People used to have a better sense of the world: of how much labor it took to make a shirt or bring a bushel of apples to market, of how much leverage the employees of a company had in negotiating their wages. Because of this, they felt much more confident in their ability to change and shape the world. With global capitalism, things are so spread out and mixed up, that we no longer have access to this sort of intuitive understanding rooted in our lived experience. Everything becomes more simulation than real and we don't really know who is in charge anymore. No one chooses to have a pessimistic postmodern outlook, it's merely a reflection of how modern systems of labor and communication shape us. It would be nice to return to the sort of utopian modernist mindset that they had in the early 20th century, but we can't lose sight of the fact that modernist thought gave us both Communism and Fascism.
That's why for a Christian, I found his answer very fair, unlike Jordan Peterson's definition which was a disguise of Marxism which is very modern. I think it's an excuse for European socialist to embrace American pop culture without having to embrace American neo colonialism which was also a result of American capitalism that saved them from the Nazis.
Extreme modernism is postmodernism......Trying to achieve nothingness by deniaing the somethingness we already are.. We end up creating another form of us..and the that form inevitably becomes the standard of who we are.... Cancel culture is the product of this, the fact that we now have new standards doesn't mean we don't have standards anymore
However... it is also something people can use to label any idea they happen to disagree with. Just because one dislikes an idea doesn't mean it's postmodernism. An important point that doesn't get mentioned.
This rings true for everything I have been hearing about modernism and post modernism. This explains why post modern subjects are so cynical towards human intentions......they always seem to assume the worst about some people and the best about others. They're not consistent........ And how does this work for literature, if everything is my truth your truth? You couldn't teach anything for sure about a book even, how would that work? On a test would they just mark all answers to questions about the book as right?.................sounds like an absolute disaster.
You made a good point with your second paragraph. Their own way of thinking is inconsistent. They say meaning and truth is with the individual or to the society, the problem is that they get angry and mad at people who disagree with them. See the problem? How can you get mad at people who disagree with you if you say truth is in the eye of the beholder? Honestly, maybe they should be the ones showing themselves to the door if they believe society determines truth because they walked into a once nonpostmodernist society and started acting like they ran things. I wait for the day I see postmodernist ideology fall
Wow thats was a very good explination in such a short time. Then again, thats just my perspective. Never heard of this guy but i take it he is a post modernist. He autta debate ol Mr. peterson.
Thank you for your cogent summary of an elusive phenomennon that takes any efficacy I can muster just to parse out where the tea leaves point to in a rudimentary way. DUM SPIRO SPERO. VOCATUS ATQUE, NON VOCATUS, DEUS ADERIT. When God closes a door, He opens a window, but sometimes He forgets to take the screen out. Peace be with you always.
No modernism is liberal and communism. Honestly I think the first post modernist was fascism because it embraced Marxism and Nichia, Mousilin wasn't that racist, Hitler added antisemitic aspects and neo pagan worshipping of the state. Sorry for the spelling.
@@anthonybrett 2.25 where your man assumes god is the 'author' of all 'creation'. I can imagine this leading to all sorts of 'fuckups'. Your idea, not mine...
Create your own truth? That's a total dichotomy. I thought they do nothing but deconstruct social constructs. What's the difference between what your deconstructing and the ideological substructure your going to create when you invent your own truth?
Andy Dryer that's because postmodernists had it the wrong angle. It's not solely what is put under value or to devalue that's illusion. Everything is. Freedom is illusory as it's everything most people run from. Rebellion is illusory as no one can concretely determine what constitutes rebelling. There are many in this day and age who will see you as nihilistic, as the iconoclast merely for being open to debate upholding the Bill of Rights in present day America. Mainstream thought all around is illusory as it's determined through the mainstream media and other propaganda models via the system. Which are all also illusory, the only reason the system exists is because of modern technology (which is manmade as in it initially didn't exist). Primitive life has their own brand of politics, tribes, tribal leaders, etc, as both modern AND primitive society, just humanity all around, is illusory. Language (dialect) is illusory as this is another means that can and does easily get used for indoctrination. So for example, the word "terrorism" holds no value as this too is purposeless in the grand scheme of everyone else's ideas on what constitutes the word (which like everything else, could hold no significance at all or be interpreted in any fashion). Consciousness is illusory, your ideas of consciousness have been molded by that very matrix around you. Consciousness needs to be actualized first. The mechanics, the order of things that you mention, are illusory as these mechanics can be disrupted by the power of your own reality tunnels and how good you are at playing the hacking game the universe really is. Order can sometimes be so illusory that acts of chaos can be accomplished. If someone has no fear of death all the way to the point where he's willing to die over his acts of carnage I guarantee you he can get away with it. Look no farther than Eric Harris and Columbine. If that same energy was directed against the system itself by enough people then the system could easily be overthrown by now. Chaos is its own illusion as it always seems to roll back to order somehow. Or the chaos paradox, how there's still order in chaos (which is supposed to be defined as disorder. The opposite of order). Bad and good are illusory. Fantasy and reality are illusion too. Love is pure illusion, it is the universes lie to keep itself sustained. No more than perpetuating the bullshit corporate world. Most people ultimately know this but most people are whores so they don't care so long as they can live with someone who can get their dick wet. Identity illusion, heck, even enlightenment is illusion. Everything operates in holographic coding.
As a leftist/atheist, I think this is actually a very good explanation of postmodernism. I just want to point out one thing that conservative commentators always skip over or misrepresent in their analysis, which is that postmodernism is more a condition of our modern reality than a bunch of French philosophers who conspired to kill absolute truth in the 1960's. With modern media, global supply chains, corporate hierarchies, governments that present themselves as democratic but are dominated by an elite ruling class, etc. we are increasingly disconnected and alienated from society and our material surroundings. People used to have a better sense of the world: of how much labor it took to make a shirt or bring a bushel of apples to market, of how much leverage the employees of a company had in negotiating their wages. Because of this, they felt much more confident in their ability to change and shape the world. With global capitalism, things are so spread out and mixed up, that we no longer have access to this sort of intuitive understanding rooted in our lived experience. Everything becomes more simulation than real and we don't really know who is in charge anymore.
No one chooses to have a pessimistic postmodern outlook, it's merely a reflection of how modern systems of labor and communication shape us. It would be nice to return to the sort of utopian modernist mindset that they had in the early 20th century, but we can't lose sight of the fact that modernist thought gave us both Communism and Fascism.
You aptly frame things. I applaud your honesty in owning your shadow (leftist AND athiest). How might you envisage a higher power I wonder.
That's why for a Christian, I found his answer very fair, unlike Jordan Peterson's definition which was a disguise of Marxism which is very modern. I think it's an excuse for European socialist to embrace American pop culture without having to embrace American neo colonialism which was also a result of American capitalism that saved them from the Nazis.
Extreme modernism is postmodernism......Trying to achieve nothingness by deniaing the somethingness we already are..
We end up creating another form of us..and the that form inevitably becomes the standard of who we are.... Cancel culture is the product of this, the fact that we now have new standards doesn't mean we don't have standards anymore
A truly brilliant exposition of what really represents the futility of things in the absence of an Absolute...
That is amazing explanation, so vitally explicit!
Teacher: what is four times seven?
Pupils: Whatever we interpret it to be.
As it should be.
End the brainwashing.
End the oppression.
TpXd8bXqT hope you're joking......😆
God bless your soul for this explanation.
The most succinct explanation that I have heard to date. Thank you!
Well done....Very succinct explanation of postmodernism.
However... it is also something people can use to label any idea they happen to disagree with. Just because one dislikes an idea doesn't mean it's postmodernism. An important point that doesn't get mentioned.
Excellent explanation, I look forward to watching other video's by you.
This rings true for everything I have been hearing about modernism and post modernism. This explains why post modern subjects are so cynical towards human intentions......they always seem to assume the worst about some people and the best about others. They're not consistent........
And how does this work for literature, if everything is my truth your truth? You couldn't teach anything for sure about a book even, how would that work? On a test would they just mark all answers to questions about the book as right?.................sounds like an absolute disaster.
You made a good point with your second paragraph. Their own way of thinking is inconsistent. They say meaning and truth is with the individual or to the society, the problem is that they get angry and mad at people who disagree with them. See the problem? How can you get mad at people who disagree with you if you say truth is in the eye of the beholder? Honestly, maybe they should be the ones showing themselves to the door if they believe society determines truth because they walked into a once nonpostmodernist society and started acting like they ran things. I wait for the day I see postmodernist ideology fall
Wow thats was a very good explination in such a short time. Then again, thats just my perspective. Never heard of this guy but i take it he is a post modernist. He autta debate ol Mr. peterson.
What easier way could there be to navigate the suffering of the world than to claim it doesn't exist.
Life wasn't meant to be easy.
It all seems like who can confuse more !!!😮
If something really bad doesn’t happen soon, we’ll NEVER be able to dig ourselves out of this hellish decent into hopelessness.
Thank you for your cogent summary of an elusive phenomennon that takes any efficacy I can muster just to parse out where the tea leaves point to in a rudimentary way. DUM SPIRO SPERO. VOCATUS ATQUE, NON VOCATUS, DEUS ADERIT. When God closes a door, He opens a window, but sometimes He forgets to take the screen out. Peace be with you always.
I don’t get it
Very neat explanation!
Ask and u will find. I just seeked for the answer of post-modernism and i got it😁
Please describe modernism accurately. Modernism is almost the exact opposite of what he said it was. Post-modernism is even worse.
No modernism is liberal and communism. Honestly I think the first post modernist was fascism because it embraced Marxism and Nichia, Mousilin wasn't that racist, Hitler added antisemitic aspects and neo pagan worshipping of the state. Sorry for the spelling.
There's no such thing as a postmodernist on the way to the hospital.
Hell of an assumption: the author of society is automatically god. Not a very postmodern way of looking at things....
When did he imply that in the video? Who's doing all the assuming here? Him or you?
Assumption is the mother of all fuckups.
@@anthonybrett 2.25 where your man assumes god is the 'author' of all 'creation'. I can imagine this leading to all sorts of 'fuckups'. Your idea, not mine...
@@anthonybrett Hello, you gone quiet....
@@jonathonjubb6626 Apologies. I was wrong. I'm not religious by the way, I just missed that line.
@@anthonybrett ok mate. Thought you might apologetic or trolling... Stay safe.
Create your own truth? That's a total dichotomy. I thought they do nothing but deconstruct social constructs. What's the difference between what your deconstructing and the ideological substructure your going to create when you invent your own truth?
it's all individual.
Andy Dryer that's because postmodernists had it the wrong angle. It's not solely what is put under value or to devalue that's illusion. Everything is. Freedom is illusory as it's everything most people run from. Rebellion is illusory as no one can concretely determine what constitutes rebelling. There are many in this day and age who will see you as nihilistic, as the iconoclast merely for being open to debate upholding the Bill of Rights in present day America. Mainstream thought all around is illusory as it's determined through the mainstream media and other propaganda models via the system. Which are all also illusory, the only reason the system exists is because of modern technology (which is manmade as in it initially didn't exist). Primitive life has their own brand of politics, tribes, tribal leaders, etc, as both modern AND primitive society, just humanity all around, is illusory. Language (dialect) is illusory as this is another means that can and does easily get used for indoctrination. So for example, the word "terrorism" holds no value as this too is purposeless in the grand scheme of everyone else's ideas on what constitutes the word (which like everything else, could hold no significance at all or be interpreted in any fashion). Consciousness is illusory, your ideas of consciousness have been molded by that very matrix around you. Consciousness needs to be actualized first. The mechanics, the order of things that you mention, are illusory as these mechanics can be disrupted by the power of your own reality tunnels and how good you are at playing the hacking game the universe really is. Order can sometimes be so illusory that acts of chaos can be accomplished. If someone has no fear of death all the way to the point where he's willing to die over his acts of carnage I guarantee you he can get away with it. Look no farther than Eric Harris and Columbine. If that same energy was directed against the system itself by enough people then the system could easily be overthrown by now. Chaos is its own illusion as it always seems to roll back to order somehow. Or the chaos paradox, how there's still order in chaos (which is supposed to be defined as disorder. The opposite of order). Bad and good are illusory. Fantasy and reality are illusion too. Love is pure illusion, it is the universes lie to keep itself sustained. No more than perpetuating the bullshit corporate world. Most people ultimately know this but most people are whores so they don't care so long as they can live with someone who can get their dick wet. Identity illusion, heck, even enlightenment is illusion. Everything operates in holographic coding.
@@nunisthathigh4825 Basically, there is no objective truth, is there?
@@boringname3657 yes, you got it.
@@boringname3657; nope objectivity is pseudo, truth though, yes and it is multiplicitous.
No definition.
What is post modernism? The short answer.....nonsensical crap.
Best BS ever.
Another academic clueless re. Post-Modernism.
Merely throwing platitudes about Post-Modernism around ....
Wow, for a Christian fair enough