Automated Recirculating Watering Setup! No Waste!
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- Automatic, Recirculating watering setup for growing indoors! This is a pretty easy setup to automatically water your plants and reuse or discard the runoff automatically! We are also using the @pulsegrow new Pulse Hub to monitor our pH and EC in our water and moisture content and EC in the medium! This is a game changer for how we grow with mineral based nutrients!
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Automated, Recirculating watering setup for growing indoors! This is a pretty easy setup to automatically water your plants and reuse or discard the runoff automatically! We are also using the @pulsegrow new Pulse Hub to monitor our pH and EC in our water and moisture content and EC in the medium! This is a game changer for how we grow with mineral based nutrients!
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This is just what i was looking to build!!! I lost my last grow because of my watering/nutrient schedule got lost in the influx of life events. Lost a bunch of plants this summer but you live and learn
The recirculation is BALLER!!! i love that! Great way to minimize water usage if you're in an area where water is scarce. VERY cool.
This video came at a perfect time. I was trying to piece together equipment for old video but wasn’t having any good luck. Huge thank you, it’s difficult trying to grow with chronic pain, this will definitely help a lot.
This version is much better than the previous, these rings also water much more evenly. At a minimum a trashcan, the rings and a pump and tubing is all you need. You can collect and dump the run off, I wanted to try and reuse it so save money on feed and use less water.
I did the same thing outdoors with peppers in a 3x6 flood and drain style with local organic compost. It ran awesome. Building another 1 soon.
I love the idea of automated watering...
But I gotta be honest.
I think my favorite thing is sitting down with my plants and slowly watering them.
It would be cool if this system allowed you to easily alternate between hand watering and auto.
Same here I enjoy being w/ my plants & hand watering very slow.! Also, I'm always scouting out the leaves for any problems to stay on top of things right away & correct if there's a problem!
Just unplug it when you want to water pretty sure it's that simple
I've got an alien easy feed system. If i'm not away. I use it hoseless. and just top feed by hand for the first 4 weeks then go to bottom feeding for the remainder. I can move them around or hook the hoses up and ready to autofeed. I use a bubblegen bubble maker as a mixer in the resoviour, whether running auto or not.
You can just open the AC app and turn the pump schedule off and it will not water till you turn it on or reenable the schedule. Soil you can get away with watering every couple days, pure coco you gotta water every day sometimes even a couple times a day in flower. We found it hard to make sure we were here or had the time to water so much this helps in that respect a TON.
@@Highigan Ok so there is an option. True like the anxiety relieved in those moments when you need it is worth the inconvenience of having to remove the thing to hand water.
Good work & thought put into your watering system. 👏🏽
I NEED to find a new self watering system to start my next grow! And this vid might of sealed the deal for me! 💪😎 thanks guys! You two are genius’s!
Its been working great! We also have ran our copycat photo in a modified version of this setup that is stand alone that worked well! We will make a video on it!
That new Pulse Hub is amazing. If I were a salt grower, I can see it as being invaluable!
Right! I think it can really help me dial in the flex grows and hopefully get some amazing results!
Appreciate all the info, and finally found everything I wanted to know about hooking up a recirculating water feeder, doing my first dwc, and wanted to make sure I have everything I need,and after watching this gonna be purchasing some of the products you used to make things easier , thanks for all the info!
Of course. Thanks for all your support fam 🙏
This is so sleek the Pulse seems to be super handy too
I guess it might be time for me to update my system as well, thanks for the advice
Pretty cool systems I luv 2play some Reggae and slowly hand watering (Relaxing)Great review 👍🏾👍🏾
Perfect slick setup. 👌
Its been working great and we are using way less feed and water!
That was enjoyable!! Thanks guys!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thats a awesome setup guys
Ty its been working great! I wanna setup more or maybe just another 2 plant setup. We still want to run organics too so I didn't wanna take over the auto tent completely lol
Hey neighbors. Living in GR. Like your show a bunch. Awesome stuff you guys do.
Super dope setup. That ac infinity controller is so cool i need one lol. Happy growing...
Let's go can't wait
Great video. Thanks
Great video, Man I need this auto watering system for sure. Plus a Pulse Pro with its monitors. Seems like a perfect system once u get it all dialed in. Thanks for the video and info.
I have a tee in my tent reservoirs to mix water. Essentially ensures no water in the system is standing water. This is for RDWC which is bit different than drain to waste.
love this set up ... Flex it 😎
Very interesting system, I''l try this one out in the future, for when we take a holiday
Even just a pump set to water which is super cheap is amazing for when you are away, it really saves the day if you have no one to watch your grow!
this is super duper sick my growmie thanks for sharing. Now I just wish and pray I can afford something like this sometime in the future 🙏
Thank you again for the informative content 👍
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Very cool!
Great video I am looking forward to that automation.
Its been working great so far!
Your videos are amazing! I have really been enjoying watching you guys lately. Please at some point, do a comparison with topped, untopped and fimmed. For science!! Interested to see what effect fimming would have on an auto.
Great vid as always! Have you guys considered a flood and drain setup? Just got mine 2 weeks ago, and it's been working great. I'm using organic powder feeding (mr canucks method) and growing in a coco/perlite/soil blend. Cost me about 50 bucks and I can now just fill the res with some tap water, adjust pH and let them grow for a couple weeks. Also using diatomaceous earth on my top soil, which never gets watered in so IT stays effective. No pests!
Nice set up.
Water 💦 off the todo list 💪🏾
Exactly!
awesome system for the away person
That's what I was going for, we can run this for weeks without having to check on anything! The pulse hub is a splurge but notifications for ph and ec drift is pretty amazing
@@Highigan yes the pulse is a splurge , I use an older aquarium controller ( apex jr ) for my ph and outlet control
Very nicely done guys 🙏🏻 I have built myself an automated Floraflex setup aswell inspired by yours.
Now I just need to get me that pulse
The pulse is awesome! Its expansive but it changed the game literally seconds after you set it up, being able to see the EC in the medium and your feeding tank along with pH makes it very easy to keep an eye on things and watch dry backs, something I wanna learn more about to see how I can control for better growth! More to come!
@@Highigan super exciting stuff 🚀
Keep up the great work bro 😎🤙🇺🇲
damn you guys rock!
Looking forward to this video. Thank you for the content. #cheers
Thanks CB! 🙌🙌💚💚💨💨
Hi, love your helpful videos! I have used floraflex pots and have problems with clogging even with the little plastic filters, lol... What do you do to keep such clear cocoless runoff?
Great setup Growmie. 🔥🔥🔥
Every time I get my system set up. You come out with something new.
This is why I can't watch this stuff anymore. I cannot afford all the stuff you guys get. Keep up the great content and hope everything works out in life with you guys. I think 603 is out.
This is an updated version of what we were doing before, The old drip rings from growtek are not sold anymore, we get tons of questions on where to get them I just wanted to make a video showing what we are doing now.
Would like to try this system
Just had my self watering do something different after I topped it sprouted new growth out of the cut so now I have 4 tops instead of two I haven’t had this happen before.
Trying to do this with an 8 plant set up but I’m having trouble visualizing it with what was shown in regard to the irrigation fittings and tubing ran between each plant from the pump to the runoff.
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The moisture sensors need to be placed 2/3 down from top to bottom. I have several Trolmaster ones. They are great froor crop steering coco. :)
I was searching through yalls videos on here and I might have over looked it. But do yall have a video that shows how yall make ur soul and what all u put in it?
Love the setup. Does the mat and drip lid help stop fungus gnats?
Yeah I have not seen any yet, altho we have been running just 100% coco last few runs and I have notices no gnats at all. Except the ones coming from the organic plants Heaven is running in soil!
i already have a controller 69 pro can i just get a UIS control plug and have that be the same as the controller 79?
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Drinkin that whole milk!!! Gang gang
How often do you water when flower hits? Are those 3 gal pots? How long does it water for when it pumps feed?
How often do you have to ph the water?
I would switch to stainless steel hose clamps in the water
Crazy how I was looking to automate my watering and came across this video now I’m wondering if you could automate the ph levels like the trident 🔱 system for saltwater could be something to look into but great video bro
Can this work with a soil system? or is it only Hydro/Coco?
Flora flex or autopots?
Do you guys have any discount codes for the fLora flex ??
I'd love to see you go a little more in depth about how you set up the actual recirculating part, are you using a pump to pump out of the drain basins? It appears gravity fed but I don't really get how you could achieve that
Yes just gravity fed into the bucket company unit which has a pump and a float. You can also use the cheaper condensation pumps for HVAC.
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Nice video, hey what pump are you using to mix/agitate your nutes?
Its the old pump from the old setup, just a cheap pump off amazon. You really don't need a high lift pump for mixing since its just pushing it right back into the tank to move it around so you could go with a less powerful pump.
Newbie here. How do you keep from overfeeding with a setup like this? Every watering will have some sort of nute content, correct?
so ac infinity has a 79 controller now!?!?! When I first bought my fan, it had the 65 controller, had to upgrade to the 67 controller to get it to thermostatically control the temps, then I got the oscillating fan which requires the 69 controller for scheduling, still haven't upgraded to that.
Why not go full hydroponics?
I wonder ,why FF didn’t make their system’s pots and covers white in color to reflect more light under the plant where it’s darkest?
Are you able to use that Controller to manage the pumps cycle in seconds? Looking online, I'm only seeing hours/minutes but I only need a 12 second cycle, is this possible?
Not yet, I contacted acinfinity and asked them to add seconds to the control ability
@Highigan how did you prevent a siphon in this setup? I'm running into this issue pretty bad in my setup and cant lower my rez any further. At this point, water keeps flowing after the pump turns off
Hello, there are 2 options for this. 1) You can either raise your pots/drippers higher or 2) You can put a tiny hole in the tubing INSIDE the res at the highest point before the tubing exits the res facing down toward the water/res wall. The reason you do this inside the res is because water will be leaking out of the hole while the pump is running and you want it falling back into the res. This will break the siphon. Search for Stop Your Siphon - Easy Fix ✅ from floraflex on youtube for a demonstration of how this works. Good luck!
@@brasco8721 Thanks so much for the reply. I was having a hard time making either of those fixes work in my setup so I tried FloraFlex's Air Relief Valve and (even though thats not technically what its for) it fixed my siphon issue. The pressure of the siphon isn't strong enough to keep it closed so it reopens and lets air in to break the siphon.
Does the mix pump have an airline so it also a bubbler to oxygenate the water..?
Good question. It does not. In my previous setup I ran air stones to agitate the water vs the pump. One thing I found out was that air stone agitation increases the pH of the water over time. It would always creep up. After switching to the pump mix method the ph is ultra stable and requires almost no adjustment after you get it dialed over the week. I change out any leftover water once a week when I mix the new feed following the schedule. The water will get O2 added simply from spraying out the bubbler manifolds and filtering through the coco. We have ran about 3 plants out with this method so far and they are doing great as we continue to dial things in and experiment! We will have seed to harvest videos soon with this setup!
Thanks for taking the time, for such an in depth reply
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Can I program the controller 79 to water for 15 or 30 seconds instead of a whole minute?
Not currently 1min is the smallest amount of time, I am going to ask them about making some changes to the app for just this reason!
@@Highigan I have been using the Controller 79 for controlling my dehumidifier in a closed loop setup. It was one of the only controllers that I could find on the market that you could program a different humidity level depending on the time of day. This was so I could have my humidity drop even lower when the lights are off to account for the drop in temp. The controller does seem to fall short though when it comes to setting up auto irrigation when you are looking to program down to the seconds, which is important for people who want to water very small amounts very frequently multiple times per day. I have found that a simple smart plug that works with the Smartthings app(I use Kasa EP10) will allow you to set routines where you can for example have your pump turn on at 8 AM everyday and auto turn off after X amount of time including seconds. However, I have not found any smart plug that will work down to seconds without using an app like Smartthings.
What is the mixing pump? Thanks
Just a regular acinfinity hydro pump, I just pumps back into the reservoir to mix and churn the water in the tank. I turn it on when mixing feed or adjusting pH so the water and nutrients get fully mixed and incorporated!
I just use the AC infinity AC outlets to run my pumps and connect to UIS pro WiFi controller. Why add another controller that probably doesn’t have WiFi.
What is the advantage of this setup over autopots?
Its top watering. No risk over overflow or valves getting stuck like in autopots. So many growers I know have delt with flooded tents or overflows from values getting stuck or jammed in an auto pot setup and coming home to a drained reservoir all over the tent or floor. The one failure point here would be if the return pump died, But it would take days to pump the reservoir out so hopefully it would be caught in time. We have been running this kind of setup for almost 6 months now.
How do you guys maintain your ph in the reservoir? Mine climbs like crazy during the week. Im using advanced nutrients ph perfect and it's still rising.
That's when you add pH or more water or both. The pulse hub is amazing at keeping track, so it doesn't go too far out of range 💚
Do you have an aerator in your reservoir? We used to use air stones but air stones will increase your ph over time. Since we switched to the mix pump there is virtually no drift in res ph!
@Highigan I'm only using a recirculating pump in my reservoir. Mine is drifting up like crazy during the week. I used ph down for my last grow and kept adding when it was out of range, but eventually got a phosphorus overload.
Hmmm I am not sure, are you running coco or soil? That is one thing we have noticed with floraflex after its set it does not drift much if at all. We have not tested any other nutrient lines yet with this setup. I know the air stones did cause the ph to go up for sure.
@Highigan I think I'm going to try the flora flex. No issues with lines clogging or anything? I'm using the auto pot system
Try the hydro flow rain ring way cheaper.
I have not seen those but I am gunna look them up now! They do look nice and are slightly cheaper on sale on amazon right now, One thing I will say is there is no easy way to clean those out if you get something in there, with the bucket company ones you can unscrew the cap and clean it out easily or even use different tips for different watering options!
@@Highigan I just use a valve before sprayer to control flow,then use an inline filter works great.theres like 30 holes in the sprayer never had a clog.clean with peroxide after each grow.
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Will try and tone it down next time
@@Highigan thanks bud appreciate it.
Something about recirculating runoff doesn’t sit well with me.
Something we are trying, as long as we maintain the pH and ec they do fine, change the water when it gets low or just add more if EC creeps up. We will have seed to harvests coming with this system and more details!
@@Highiganyeah but EC is just total salt content this doesn't account for your plants taking nutes at different rates. If your npk ratio could be all out of whack and you could have the correct EC. You're still prob looking at a complete change out every 10-14 days. Unless your running a chiller your resi will likely need to be cleaned anyways by that time. I'm keeping with waste to run off till to avoid all these hoops might as well rdwc at that point. I'll be watching either way I think this is the only channel doing this style
That’s where the 600$ Pulse comes in at.
Otherwise it’s an absolute headache and more tedious then a simple drain to waste.
@@ConfidentGrips precisely. You hit the nail on the head. EC is just one form of measurement. You can have the target EC and your macro and or micronutrients be completely outta range.
@@ConfidentGrips yes exactly.
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Maaaaaaan i need a cheaper option to that EZ runoff kit. 160 for a condensate pump?!
Love to see how high tech it has become. But this isnt a new way to water, we were doing this 25+ years ago with hydro. Just use a small aquarium pump on a timer and a run to waste pot set up, but you would put an additional pump into the waste tub and pump it back into the reservoir. We were running 200ltr reservoirs back then and the waste tub was either 60 ltrs or if you had to, a 45ltr tub. With those old horrible push pin mechanical timers. We would fill the ressy with nutes and you could go on holiday for a week no probs, as long as the timers didnt break or the cheap pumps give out-it was all good.
This looks way better, but MUCH more expensive... to the point im wondering if its worth using or if I pay a ton for it, it would be cheaper to just buy buds. I do love new tech but you guys are using gear now that is so pricey how is it cheaper to grow your own when any money you save would be spent in the set up costs for all this hi tech gear?
Be honest, if you were not sponsored and got most of this tech for free, would you ever fork out the insane set up costs to buy it all??
I spent a bit over a grand for my tent set up, so it would take me 6+ months to recoup that working on id be buying $200 worth of buds each month. To run all the gear you guys have, id have to run it all for 2 years just to break even.
Aside from that point, I really do love you guys, both of ya's and hope you NEVER stop doing what your doing. Just dont forget some of us cant spend a fortune on every new shiny toy. Love from Australia.
Great points fam! The pump setup its self is pretty cheap and you could setup a 2-6 plant watering with this setup or modified version using different pots and even a liner to collect all runoff instead of individual bases. The bucket company runoff pump is a turn key drain pump but you could make one with just a pump on a timer and it would be much less, you could use the controller 79 to run the waste pump along with your feeding / mix pumps to make it easy / digital or like you said the older manual timer ones. There are is a lot of ways you could set this up for sure and make it cheaper.
The pulse hub is pricey that was given to us for testing. I gotta say I love the ability to see what's going on from the tank to the medium with real data and not having to check constantly the ph and ec or collect runoff. It makes sense for large ops or large grows. Maybe not at this scale, and if you have a decent ph/ec pen its not required. This is just an overview of the setup we are running now since we get so many questions I wanted to cover it all. Or you can use it as a blueprint for making your own setup based on your needs and budget!
what tent size would you say is needed for a single white widow marijuana plant.
2x2 or 3x3
I thought floraflex did not want to recirculate the run off.
You can if you check their website, it just says to make sure your EC and pH are maintaining. It does recommend changing the water every 7-14 days. I change out our water about once a week following the schedule. 5 gallons seems to last that long if not longer. If your EC starts to climb up simply add more fresh water, and adjust pH. Its super easy. We ran copycat on a recirculation setup like this and it grew amazing so we are diving into it more since it uses way less nutrients so they last longer and less water waste!
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Yes 5 gallons would last me a week between 4 plants. I have not been on their site in a long while, I guess it is time to check in lol...
Yeah check it out! Says good to go on recirculating setups and DWC, we do wanna try DWC at some point!
Are you guys using 7 gallon pots? the 9" EZ-PZ dripper says for larger pots 7-50 gallon... I think in my setup I would use 3-5 gallons for flowering. wonder if the spray would be off the side of the pot in 3 gallons... I see u have the matrix cap so maybe that helps but what diameter is the top of your pots?
But. Did you buy all of that Awesome stuff or get it for FREE ??
The description is where you will find links if you are interested in the setup. 😀
And when we work with companies, nothing we get is "free." We work with these companies. We actually have to work. Just like you. Nothing is free. As I'm assuming you're a grown man and could piece that together just fine. 😅💚
Waaaaaaaaaay too much going on and waaaaaaaaaay too much money being spent for an automatic setup. I run RDWC with a NIWA Growhub. My whole grow, minus the tent and light, costs less than the pulse pro itself. Thank God for sponsorships, eh Highigan? More power to you and continued success bringing cannabis to the people but there are much simpler, and cheaper, ways to have control of your grow. Thanks but no thanks.
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But damn 550$ for the pulse.
A par meter alone is more than the pulse, then tack on a CO2 ppm meter.. Its not cheap but if you are looking for advanced monitoring its probably your best option on the market that can do all those things and more.
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It’s also a great way to over water you plants. But goat head
Not with the coco pretty much impossible to over water, hoping AC modifies their controller firmware to allow under 1min watering and intervals.
That sure is a lot of equipment just to grow weed.
Just a different way to grow. Coco needs way more watering than I have time or am around to do by hand. Our organic soil plants we do all by hand still. I would like to make this a 4 plant 4x4 tent setup.
@@Highigan I water my plants once a week in coco but ok sure.
How long can nutrients circulate in water before spoiling?
@@bongholio so you’re an amateur, thanks for sharing.
I recommend keeping the expensive unnecessary gear like the pulse outta your videos to keep things more realistic for your viewers. Just a tip.
Things like that can really turn people off especially being it was given to you.
Nothing is "given" to us. But thanks for your insight 👍
@@Highigan ok my mistake I meant sent for free. Lol
Icgaf but 98% of your viewers ain’t got that kinda bread to fork out. Especially if you’re trying to be an educational format targeting new and newish growers..
Again. Thank you for your insight. But I don't think we need your advice. But appreciate it. 😘
@@Highigan lol read your comments section. Oh wait you already did . So you know they’re a few people who’s turned off by some of the gear y’all push. Would you even be putting out content if you guys didn’t get gear sent for free. Come on don’t act like you’re doing it ( for the community) .
And yes you absolutely should take your subscribers advice because without us wtf would you be..
quit getting a hard on when your viewers are giving you advice I mean it’s for us right.
Take the criticism be an adult and keep it pushin growmie.
I agree pulse may not be in the budget for every grower but the data is valuable, and its not a requirement of the watering system to work correctly, you can put something like this together very cheap. The features are awesome and if you were to buy all the things separately it can read it would be much more expansive.
The data it lets us record and incorporate into videos is great since we constantly get asked about conditions, now we can easily show them over the grow.
Its an advanced tool for growers who wanna take their grow to the next level. Nerds who want that data and advanced monitoring. Maybe not in the budget for some new growers, but if it turns into a passion it might be something that can elevate someone to that next level when they are ready. And no they are not "free" we invest a crazy amount of time, money and energy into creating our content. We don't get paid for views, infact youtube makes it very difficult to publish our content or support the work we do.
If a company likes what we do and its a product we would actually use and is quality why would we not use it in our grow or try it? Even if some people may not be able to afford there is an equal number of people who would find it useful. They can use our discount which saves them money and helps our channel. Its a win win for everyone and helps us keep creating videos for everyone to enjoy.. You don't have to use anything we are, we are just showing what we are using and how. You don't need anything fancy to grow, just soil, sun and a bean. 💚💨
It's not needed they only need just enough
Minnesota joins the legal culture list on the 1st of August. I'm getting an AC Infinity. Where's the best place to get seeds from? I looked at leafly and fast buds for the Gelato auto.
This is overkill to the max, and a very unnecessary amount of power used just to water your plants.
These channels are just commercial spam at this point. They don't care if a product is terrible or unnecessary or overpriced.. for a few dollars they'll push anything you want
That's not true. We are very transparent as to what we like and dislike about ANY PRODUCTS used on our channel. I'm sorry you have a different viewpoint 😊💚
It’s a helpful video for those who are growing ! I like this drip irrigation system I have one for my outdoor your inspiring me for my tent I’m going to set up
@Highigan ppl could save alot of money with just using the floraflex drainage system and the bubbler and a simple. Condensate pump as a return and a 1/6 hp submersible pump that bucket company return pump is over 3 times as much as a condensate pump the floraflex kit is more than enough to flood and drain f the bucket company floraflexin on there bih ahhs
Literally the cost of the pump. You’re just a fucking jackass.
1000 dollars for the meter I'm good does it suck me off while it's at it? Get a blue lab auto doser and call it a day fuck theses people trying to get you to blow money with their codes 🤣 I have a autowater recycling setup and used none of this trash oh yeah fb market place built 4 rooms for 500 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤪😶🌫️🙄
And not to mention my plants kill theses chumps plants 🤣 4lbs from 1 plant out of 8 in a 4x4 🤣 learn to grow better with out your fancy usless trash
Thanks for your support 🤣🙏
You should look up IR Rings they come apart in the middle so you can clean the inside out. I’m betting over time you going to get tired of trying to clean those tips on you rings.
You can unscrew the caps easily to clean them, through the pump in a fine filter bag so the pump doesn't suck in and particles of coco something I forgot to mention in the video!