Why Ridley Is Mediocre in Smash Ultimate, and How He Became Better in HDR
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Corrections:
-Ridley has 4* angles on his Up Special not 7 (It was a typo, I didn't catch LOL) my b.
-You Can Sweet-spot with Aerial Down B in Ultimate (I just suck)
-Ridley has the 3rd Worst Traction, with a bad dash speed
I was a little over confident in the Ult portion because I main Ridley in Smash Ultimate, so I just said my opinions at points. We all human tho, apologies if those hiccups take you out of the experience, I'm a one man band so little stuff like that can happen. 🙏
Are you more of a casual player?
@@frenchfrithefish5982 What the fuck is your problem?
I got a question, can you ask the HDR Team if they can slightly increase Luigi's running speed as he's canonically slightly faster than Mario, not slower, I get that it's supposed to be like Melee and all, but Luigi isn't a slow sprinter, Mario is.
I was getting ready to say “What?” But it’s all good. 👍
@@luigifan2438 not on the character that can wavedash across half of FD insanely quickly
I also really love the PM Remix Ridley where he has way more command grab and aerial shenanigans.
That was his best incarnation and most faithful
Always thought it was so busted..... but boss characters should be!
Use to definitely piss off my roommates with PM Ridley 😭🤣
4:09 Actually, the first time that move was used was in Brawl, where before the boss fight Ridley drags Samus on the wall for many seconds, until it's stopped by Pikachu's Thunder, selling how brutal Ridley can be as a character (Then he gets defeated by Up-air and N-air spam). Then other Metroid games used that scene as a move because they said "yeah, it makes sense for Ridley to do that".
Smash Bros has done a lot for Ridley.
Other M 🤢
While it happens in Smash sometimes I think this is actually Smash doing the character right and that helping to reinforce their characterization in the original series, rather than the character being changed by Sakurai. In the manga Ridley is depicted as a brutal, cunning monster who enjoys bloodshed and making others suffer. Him pulling a Broly and dragging someone along a hard, rough surface as he flies at the speed of a jet fighter is perfectly in character for him to do.
Never Forget the Ridley is Too Big for Smash Meme
side b isn't just a reference to metroid, the reference to metroid was originally a reference to super smash brothers brawl, where he does the same thing to samus in his boss intro cutscene. so basically it made its way into metroid through smash and then made its way back into smash through metroid. awesome, fucking love ridley almost as much as i love k. rool. ridley made me ponder getting the game, but the second i saw k. rool's reveal i immediately drove 30 minutes to gamestop and preordered that shit.
You forgot to mention that Ridley’s Up B can spike as well
That was a thing in Ult.
@@OddRick3113 yeah that’s what I’m talking about, he forgot to mention that
His down taunt is funny as well bro fixes his whole posture
Small but important correction: having a lower shorthop is almost exclusively beneficial since it means you can more easily get from using an aerial back into the ground, only exception being cases like mii brawler where it stops aerials from hitting their autocancel window or not letting longer aerials complete ( if you play in high gravity mode dk cant do short hop forward air, for example)
They shouldn't nerf any damages or knockback or speed in HDR unless its proven its busted.
HDR has tried and is making the mistake PM did, too much melee in mind
Fun fact I learned about plasma breath! Yes, if he gets hit with a projectile at the face, he ends up flinching, but he takes 0 knockback!
Love your editing man!
I love the change in Ridley’s dair. At first i was apprehensive like you but then i remembered his downward up special spikes hard and is one of both the funnest and funniest spikes to hit. Its also made up for with that aerial down special which i will DEFINITELY be going for, that in combination with dair could lead to some really funny pogo setups on opponents and im immensely looking forward to it 😄
thanks for the shoutout at the end! trying my best to go far with him lmao
Off of these changes it seems like they heavily nerfed ridley, his neutral b is worse, his weight is decreased, his base stats are worse across the board. This is kinda ridiculous.
Ridleys fire ball is great. It totally has problems but they could just buff it. I don't consider it a buff if they just completely changed the move. The multi hit is the most nostalgic thing for Ridley.
Not salty, just my opinion. Great vid
Edit** you can totally use it in neutral too
The down aerial of ridley can absolutely be used as an off stage tool: Jumping once off stage and into the down stomp, the move actually stops before you die and you can use your remaining two jumps plus up special to get back to ledge
My least favorite thing about HDR is the removal of the iconic kill screen )=
Wait, what kill screen?
Y'know, when you land the last hit in a match and it makes the crash sound and zooms in on the guy getting hit?@@k-leb4671
Oh wow! I remember in the early days of playing Ultimate online I faced off against many Ridley players. I don't see them as much now
I main Ridley, and I gotta say, he's very interesting.
In my opinion, he boils down to a high risk high reward character... His Advantage Game is amazing, but his Disadvantage State is very bad.
Also, Side Special off Stage is surprisingly deadly, cause Ridley has a weirdly good recovery for how weird his Up Special is.
Also, not sure about HDR making him lighter, cause I really liked him as a "light" Heavyweight.
Imagine being one of the most demanded characters in Smash and right when they add you, they make you mid tier.
(Tho I still main him because his animations make him fun af)
I think it's because Sakurai didn't know how to make Ridley smaller without giving him a big learning curve.
Wish they made ridley's dair at least more like greninja's can you imagine the mix ups especially since he has more jumps
What makes his jab is a good reset tool? Literally only Bayonetta's jab is slower than Ridley's. The remaining 86 other characters in the game have a jab that is as good or outright faster/larger/hits better than Ridley's. Okay, 83 characters if you want to remove Samus/Dark Samus and Ganon, but those aren't high bars to clear for jabs
HDR Ridley looks better than Ultimate Ridley. However you should take a look at Project M Ridley, those mods were the best version of the character.
Interessing how Ridley look like a spacie without shine
1:38 So you're saying "Personally I prefer the Nair"?
What is HDR?
Hewdraw remix it’s like PM but for ult
3:15… you can combo out of plasma bro😂 it’s good
I’m a Ridley main too! Skewer set ups are amazing
Do jabs in HDR work like they do in Ultimate or can you perform stuff like jab grab etc
My main problem with Ridley is that nair is his best move and is very uncool, but these down air and down special changes are half the battle to make him look more like Ridley and the up special change is soooo neeeed
Up Special should be changed even more in my opinion. It should have a 360° range like Fire Fox, while also being slightly maneuverable mid-move like in HDR. I guess that makes it slightly less unique as an Up Special, but it just annoys me that this flying space dragon can only zoom in 4 four directions.
@@k-leb4671 I agree tbh
Sorry I spammed the stream asking about Ridley in the chat, didn't realize you had a video on him,
Your probably the kindness youtuber anybody else would have came off pretentious if you had told me you had a video
Love your videos, hopefully I put windows on my steam deck so we can play
Also would be able to play PC gamepass
They gave him his pogo tail back. That's all I care about.
Glad to hear about another Ridley main.
5:43 it does sweet spot on the air 😭 people do it in tourney I can link a clip if you need it
Can you do a video on all the characters that got changed in hdr pls
Ness' Neutral B is called PK Flash not PK Pulse, Kirby even says it way more obviously than Ness.
Am I the only one who calls Ridley’s Up Air “The Skyrim”? Because it makes him look like the Skyrim logo.
you absolutely can sweet spot down b in the air
cool video
Being both a Metroid fan and someone who played a lot of Ridley in Ultimate, his changes in HDR are overall fantastic. His d-air in Ultimate sucks and I hate it, the new one is better and his aerial down-B is essentially his pogo tail stab from the 2D games where he bounces along the platform you fight him on, stabbing down with his tail. It's a strong spike if you hit the sweet spot and lets him mix up his aerial movement since if he hits something with it (even the stage) he bounces back up a bit. I don't think he's quite perfect because I still feel like his Neutral-B is too similar to Mario's fireball and I don't like that his Up-B is just off-brand Firefox rather than something more unique.
I think an Up-B which is an upward command grab similar to Captain Falcon, but instead of a powerful launching hit it's an aerial cargo throw where he can briefly move around mid-air and then toss the opponent in one of four directions, would be great. Ridley's been able to grab Samus with his talons and carry her into the air ever since Super Metroid, so giving him an aerial cargo throw (but probably with much less kill power) would make him a lot more unique and faithful.
Plup’s Ridley is fun
Id love to see a vid about hdr bayo
Who is heavier in smash?
A literal dragon who took all the way to Ultimate to get in because he was “too big”
OR
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIOOOOO TIIIIIIIIIIIMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEE
Can you play HDR online with others? :0
Ultimate Ridley might have the worst dive in the game. This isn't like a projectile where any projectile > no projectile, Ridley's dair was something you'd be better off removing than letting him keep it.
It actually has good uses 😂
@@echospace7347 It absolutely does not. People who think so usually do not play ridley.
"Footstool out of shield." is a meme with it and no ridley uses it in bracket because using a Footstool out of shield into dair with it hits with the sweetspot which spikes. Not the hitbox with an ok-ish kill percent.
Also, dair is completely outclassed by Ridley's up b when angled down. It spikes much longer, has a landing hitbox unlike dair, goes diagonally, and has WAYYY less endlag. (Dair's landing lag is 32 frames)
@Krona-fb4dn yeah agreed I've actually thrown out ridley's up b going down in neutral way more than his dair the only time I'll Try to use that move is at ledge if their going to neutral get up.....but even than if you miss you're fkd
@@Krona-fb4dn up b down takes longer to use if you think you know something the pros dont join the ridley discord but even smub and creepoba have said it has uses that up b down doesnt also the sour spot kills at 100 on mid weights if they try to ladder you. its not bad unless you land with it
@@echospace7347 I already am in the Ridley discord lmao.
Stall and Falls are usually good when they get you down quickly and without punishment, and realistically you can punish an opponent who misses their juggle against you with much better moves like bair. That and Creepooba and Smub rarely, if ever, use either moves in bracket cause stall and falls are easily predictable (and thus easily punishable) at beginner levels of smash when taken seriously, let alone professional to top level.
Also the original comment was simply stating that his dive is the worst in the game and he would've been a better character if it was anything else, which it definitely true on both claims. Every move has "some" use cases but Ridley's dair definitely ranks very low on that list and is usually only beaten out by outright gimmick moves like falcon punch.
Tbh these changes really don’t seem big enough especially compared to some of the other massive buffs in hdr (falcon, fox, falco, sheik, belmonts, etc) I feel like they could tone back some of his nerfs and maybe even buff his air speed a bit
Do you know what smash 2 omega is, if you do, then you should showcase it, if you don't, it simply makes brawl like melee, including the models.
since ridley was my replacement for melee bowser, (i played some bowser in brawl too, but then ssb4 assassinated him) i just don't think i can handle him being EVEN lighter : (
Ridley was a missed potential ngl
I think it's because Sakurai didn't know how to make Ridley smaller without removing what made him great????
Bruh I just started playing with Ridley this character is crazy no one wants to rematch me even if they beat me lmao his side he is nutty and his nair is good
My main since day one. I do not regret is. Always loved Metroid.he does have the worst dair in the whole game and one of the worst down b.
The funniest thing is he can't even be classified as a heavyweight because he's too light to be one
but he is classified as one
@@Patrick-ho3st He doesn't have the weight to be a heavyweight
@@SonicTheCutehog Is Ike not a heavyweight?
@@Patrick-ho3st Super-heavyweights are the one classified as "heavies"
@@SonicTheCutehoguhhh no
I still think down taunt is pretty weak-sauce. It needs a buff wherein you can infinitely loop it so Ridley can loom over his enemies every waking moment. Only _then_ can Ridley be viable.
What’s that I can’t hear you through my side b
Please do a video on hdr Byleth.
I see him as two sides one the cruel monster of death and destruction just like his well known side but ridley is a master military ability with a highly level of intellectual inc inventor creative learning skills understand a wide range of different things all types of sciences, medical, engineering and technologies knowledge on anykind of spacecraft to weaponry etc very powerful in mind and body
1:16 I believe he’s much higher at least 53rd
HONEST CONTENT!!!!! HDR!
I like Ridley even though his down B spikes.
Down b doesn't spike. Dafuq u talking about? Ohhh, u mean in HDR.
5:04 it’s not good at all? You underestimate this move bro😂 it’s literally true on platforms like you shouldn’t miss a tech chase with this if you know what your doing better yet I space it all the time with people with an incoming aerial it’s a free 70% saying it’s not useful when it’s one of the better moves in his kit is wild😂
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Hes not a heavyweight
Dang a lot of misinformation here
Im sorry too say this but ridley cant be a playable character. Hes just too big. It dosent seem right for ridley being this small. Hes better off being intense boss fight just like he was in brawl.
Anyways, ive been maining ridley and i got really good at playing ridley, i even got him into elite smash!
Now i dont want to play him so that he dosent get kicked out of elite smash.
Its been 5 years since y'all lost this war against Ridley. Let it go
@@biglangley8779 im glad hes in but it just dosent look right
I'll never forget the cursed Brawl Mods for Ridley.
@@ZachHonest Mods? I was talking about his boss battles. In his boss battles he actually seemed like a treat.
@@Speedster428 dude hes in the game he looks good let it go man
Wtf is HDR
No hate but you should ask Smash Ultimate Players how the characters work, a lot of this video is just misinformation.
"pseudo fox upair" stopped watching right there
You should make a better clickbait title cause it’s kind of repetitive
Most of the information in this video is false.
Well, the up b having 7 angle options definitely is false but idk about everything else.
@@theshadowspider97up throw up air is most certainly not a real combo and using down air on stage sounds nuts
Elaborate?
damn you really have no idea how ridley works in ultimate i'm sorry