Lebron James hits 40,000 points! Definitely put him past Michael Jordan? Nick Wright (reaction)
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- čas přidán 5. 03. 2024
- Lebron James hits 40,000 points, the most in NBA history. Definitely a great feat but does this do anything for the GOAT debate? Lets see what Nick Wright has to say.
Steph Curry won the same # of championships in roughly half the time!
I dont agree with ur load management statement. Lebron plays games when he is not injured, the only argument could be is not playing some back to backs, but even that is not often.
Kobe wasnt competing for a championship this late innhis career so there is no need to conserve. Ik the lakers are a 9th seed yes but they still feel that they can make noise in the playoffs even if the chances are slim
Yeah. The last few years after the achilles injury the Lakers were trash, Nash had a bad back, Dwight was hurtin, Gasol was in his twilight...but even with that, Kobe pulled off 5 rings.. and the main debate regarding whos the goat is not only about the rings.. It's about the player, the skillset, does Lebron have better dribbles thank Kobe or MJ,, did he handle the ball better? No...He had 1000 more turn overs than Kobe and 2000 more than MJ, with less rings... come on... would you tell your kid to learn how to shoot watching Lebrons crooked jumper.. No you wouldn't.... What Lebron has, you can't teach... 6'8 260.... of course he's a baller too... but when we're talking the GOAT, it need you to be flawless...like MJ.... no flaws you can name in his game
@@100yearsofwealthMJ had the worst flaws from all. Selfishness. MJ if he had not got some of the greatest coach and team (in a reconizable weak NBA era) maybe would not have that many rings. Maybe 1 or 2.
Hey Nick. How many 1st team all defensive teams Labron got? we'll wait...lol
Wait till Nick finds out how long Labrons been on PED's. lol
If you wanna see a casual debate the goat, look no further lolol
please elaborate on what you mean by casual
@@100yearsofwealth it seems like your knowledge of the game is surface level. Like a person who enjoys the game in passing but not at length or in depth. I could be very wrong but that’s how your arguments come off.
Jordan's peak was every year he played with Chicago, has lebron ever averaged over 30 more than 5 time's in a row
exactly, Lebron stans love to leave out context....
If you go to the finals 6 times as favorite and ein 6 thats not extraordinary. If you go 10 times as underdog and win 4 then you did Great.
terrible argument... bro.. Lebron went so much because the eastern conference was trash... he'd push through the east and get smacked down in the finals.... Or he'd get to the eastern conference finals... Got beat by Boston, who went on to lose to KOBE FCKN BRYANT , following year Lebron got put out the playoffs by the ORLANDO FCKN MAGIC.. come on... you guys have zero memory... then the LAKERS beat the Magic for another ring.... Lebron stans are not basketball savants... very new to basketball.. social media era basketball fans...
Ppl try overshadow lebrons greatness with 4-6 finals. Can da team Lebron lost in finals wit beat da bulls that won 6 rings? The better TEAM wins a championship not the best player
Take the championships out of it.... That's a team award not an individual award. MJ didn't start winning until Scottie and Horace became All Stars. Just because Jordan has more championships doesn't mean he's better than Bron.
Did Jordan play with any bonafide superstars??? Did Kobe play with any after Shaq? Lebron has always had another superstar with him that can get his own shots. That's huge. Kyrie, Dwade, Chris Bosh... All superstars. Can legit get their own shot, can legit run teams and offense on their own... MJ... no... he had good role players... Kobe had good role players... not the same.. Let me ask you.... Do you value skillset? Do you think most of Lebrons strength is in his size vs. skillset. Lebron james has the most turnovers in NBA history,, more than MJ by 2000 and more than Kobe by 1000+... how the fck can he be your goat... My goat actually takes care of the ball fam... come on... you're telling me the guy who is 4-6 in the finals, and leads NBA history in turnovers is your goat?? Please tell the truth... are you an actual legit baller... Like you ball out when you go to the gym......my gee, i'm 6"5, can shoot, dunk, pass, etc... do you not see the nuances in the differences between MJ & Lebron,, its' real easy to see.. MJ was smooth like butter... Lebron is big, strong and clunky...lol... MJ shut other greats out from getting rings during his run.... Steph has been in the league less years and has as many rings as Lebron and beat him multiple times in the finals if I remember correctly.. Is lebron better than steph??? at shooting?? Dribbling?? hell no... he's just bigger.......MJ only got beat when he was young and on the come up... Lebron got swept last year.. In the bubble AD was our best player..... stop bro...
LeBron has played in pratically all 5 positions. Did MJ ever do that.
clearly it didn't work.... MJ didn't need to... the real question is,,, how did you do against your competition. MJ dominated.. Multiple stars were left ringless.... Lebron,,, nah homey.... Steph has as many rings...
U talk credibility but blame Lebron for load management when Jordan took a year and a half off….
Make it make sense lol
Jordan fans don't believe the bad things ever happened to Jordan 😅
My brotha....Michael Jordan didn't "take a year and a half off" , his father was killed....he retired and then came back. That's different. Taking that type of time away from a professional sport would hurt you, set you back, the game is moving forward while you're off. But he was able to get back to top level not long after returning and won a 3-peat. Thats different than what Lebron does. He's been load managing for years. Of course that will extend your career. If you play one game, then take the next one off, if you don't play back to backs.....come on, lets be real. He's been load managing since he got to LA and prior. I'm not mad at him for it.... Just don't compare him to work horses like Kobe & MJ that NEVER load managed.
@@jmighty33zero Please elaborate, I had the luxury to watch most of MJ's career, all of Kobe's, and ll of Lebron. All great, but Kobe and Jordan had a different skill level...Lebron is skilled, don't get me wrong.....but his strength is more so his size... no one ever says..."Lebron has great dribbling skills, Lebron has a great jumper".
You lebron fans are so insecure 😂😂😂
@@MeronT90 yeah then what do you call making an entire video to counter a LeBron narrative 🫣
Jordan was sub 500 before he got pippen. I think it's funny when people say jordan could have won 8 straight, but he actually got bounced in the playoffs by the team that got swept in the finals. Jordan was 6 for 6 in the finals which is incredible but what happened those other 9 years...6 for 15 doesn't have the same ring to it lol. Dont get me wrong i think they are top 2 easy and i love them both but how dismissive the jordan camp is of any kind of logic is mind boggling
I like how you twist it up... Yes.. we all know that no players will win a championship every year.. and unless you come in on a stacked team you're likely to have to build, the teams usually getting high draft pics were the teams with the worst record right?? So of course theres usually a building period.
So what we're comparing is their records in the finals as a show of how effective they were in the most consequential games. Michale Jordan was 6-0 , Kobe Bryant was 5-2 and Lebron James is 4-6 . Keep in mind that the 2 rings that Kobe won without Shaq, he won those rings against teams that had just eliminated prime Lebron... Come on bro.. I respect Lebron, I don't respect his GOAT case... it's no exsistent. And if you're a true basketball savant you'll know that Kobe doesn't even have a case and i'm a true Kobe fan. Jordan was the Goat, still is and will be until someone comes along and has the full package of skills & athleticism and wins.... also... be an Alpha,, don't go searching for stars to link up with... thanks for the comment tho!
What happened to those other SEVENTEEN years for Lebron? Tf you talkin' about? Also the Wizard years don't even count. That was a promotional tour for the Wizards as he became a partial owner. Then you have to factor Jordan missed an entire season due to foot injury so technically he only played 12 full seasons for the Bulls.
@@tedroscourt1205tHoSe WizaRd yEarS don't eVEn couNt (tanslation) anything bad or doesn't help Jordans case in the debate doesn't count. Jordan is an infallible basketball diety so he should have been able to carry the wiz to titles...oh wait he didn't. No caveats given for the argument for Lebrons case but every excuse for Jordan. Gtf outta here 😂😂😂
Greatest individual player of all time boils down to record in the finals...so by your criteria then Bill Russell is the goat and it ain't even close. Don't know why you brought Kobe in the discussion. Phenominal player and the ultimate competitor that he was, but there is the legitimate argument to be made that he wasn't even the best player on his own team for the first three titles. Disagreeing with the case for Lebron being the goat is fine and totally understandable but saying the argument is nonexistent is just downright obtuse. Lastly not sure what you meant by be an an alpha, dont look for stars to link up with...not sure if that's an ad hominem based upon my comment to your video or the pro Lebron nature of my comment but either way you can do better than that and it has nothing to do with the lebron/mj debate 👍
My brother, whenever someone brings up Bill Russell in the conversation they clearly aren't getting it. ROBERT HORRY has 7 rings and he's not in the convo. Come on bro... The reason Bill Russell isn't in the conversation is because even though he was a great of his time, the game has evolved so much that the skill set isn't comparable. The reason Kareem kinda gets pushed out of the convo now is because we're clearly talking about the guys that have the most well rounded game x most success while having the most skilled, "do it all" game.. right.. come on... Did Kareem ever take the ball down the court? Did he ever pull up mid range jumpers? You ever seen Kareem do a cross over? No...Jordan became who he is because he could do it all at a higher level and on top of that he won at the highest level, over and over again. And how you win matters... No one expects a player to win every year, so bringing up the years MJ lost further shows how you're not a true savant. Of course he lost,, everyone does... but did he leave Chicago to go find an easier path? Or did he just grind it out, add some pieces and then go on a legendary run????? Come on sir, lets be real.. And the reason we say MJ could have won 8 total is because after his first 3 peat he was out for 2 years came back and won another 3 peat....Not saying it's a for sure thing, it's highly likely that they would have at least got 1 out of those 2 years if not both.... Lebron James has 2000+ more turn overs than Michael Jordan, 6 losses in the finals compared to MJ with 0. MJ never left to team up with greats... only added roll players which is normal. Come on bro... There is truly no argument. Lebron doesn't even get passed Kobe in the GOAT debate. You cant be a true baller and not get this... Like really, do you ball... like legit....I'm 6"5, deadly jumper, all moves, 3's, can still dunk at 42, watched bball since I was 5 years old... watched all 3 careers... Kobe, MJ Lebron,,, I know what i'm talking about... Look up videos of MJ draining free throws with his eyes closed.... and then pull up videos of Lebron trying to do that sh*t and airballing... different fam... Lebron James should have never pushed to have people call him the GOAT,,, the longer he plays and hovers around the 10th seed he further proves our point..
Covid ring? Every team had the same chance to win it, don't hate. Jordan would have crumbled in this social media world. You saw how crazy he acted when a player said something. No telling how he would have acted with trolls, and btw you're calling Nick a jock sniffer but you are still talking about Jordan 20+ years ago
That has to be the lamest Rich Paul point ever, "Jordan would have crumbled under social media pressure" hahahahah... Log off Lebron and stop saying dumb sh*t that puts the spot light on you..... Jordan was swamped with press. Are you kidding me... he was swarmed by media as he drove into the stadium.... you're speaking on something you don't know.... As far as the Disney Bubble Covid Tournament .. Yes, all the teams that year had the same set up.... my point is more so the comparison to the 6 rings Jordan has or the 5 that Kobe has.... If you take a month off during the season, some players sat the bubble out, you don't have to travel during the bubble, no home vs away dynamic, the exhaustion of travel after playing intense games, the intensity of going into opposing arenas with fans going crazy... screaming at you,, hating your guts... you can not tell me that the bubble replicated the true intensity that happens in a long playoff run. So yes, that year they won amongst the teams that played...bravo.... but never compare that ring to a normal championship run. The worst thing they can say is..."we missed our families"..... cry me a river....
@100yearsofwealth none of that matters in the bubble because it's the same for every team, you act like LeBron had an advantage in the bubble, he was 35 still busting that ass. Yeah Kobe has 5 but he had Shaq for the 3 peat!! (Bron had Ilgauskas) and Kobe and the Lakers CHEATED against the Kings, if you don't remember that series, you don't know ish!! Are the Spurs a dynasty? How about the Warriors? Yall really act like he lost to scrubs or something, man please. He's the best all around player of all time!! 40k points 10k assists? 🤣
Bron still better than Mike idc what nobody says. I’m taking the most complete player of all time. All Mike did was score and bron still passed him while playing the greatest stretch of anyone’s career ever in the history of the game of basketball
So defense don’t matter?? Because Jordan played defense.
That's a misconception my friend.. Lebron averages 7.4 assist, MJ averaged 5.3 , you Lebron guys whole narrative is based on 2 additional assist per game. While has the most turnovers in league history!!!! Come on,,.... How can you be the goat with that type of stat? Lebron has 5143 career turn overs vs 2924 for MJ... bruv.... it's not even close...
Bruh Lebron has 1 scoring title vs Jordan's 10. Lebron has only led the league in assists ONE TIME.
Yes Lebron could have more scoring titles if he wanted to. Jordan could've had more assists if he wanted to. If Jordan thought passing more would've resulted in more winning that's what he would've done.
Whose play style resulted in more winning? That's wtf matters at the end of the day.
At the end of the day the expectations and hate on lebron before he came into the league and he literally obliterated all expectations and then some. You say Jordan averaged 5 assists to Bron 7 yet bron got 6 thousand more assist. Now that’s a misconception. Nobody that ever laced up a basketball shoe never been h ever been as great this long. Ever period. A 39 year old bron stats better than many Jordan seasons. Not to even mention how Jordan beat teams when they were no longer in their prime. Because when they were, he couldn’t see them even w a telescope. Yet bron got the single most greatest ring ever won coming back from 3-1 to the best regular season team ever. And scoring titles don’t mean nun when you ain’t the all time leading scorer. Jordan got all those and still bron the greatest scorer of all time. While giving you 11,000 assist and 11,000 rebounds. Who does that?!? I know who not and dats Mike.
Not to mention the 8 straight final appearances. Had the whole east on lock for a decade. While winning on every team he’s been on. While being the best player. He literally carried bums to finals they didn’t deserve being in. I understand some old heads like Mike but I’m rocking w bron all day everyday.
bro sorry but you are talking shit analyse more you would understand (bill russel 11 rings )
LeBron is the GOAT! End of debate.
You're like a Trump supporter... truth doesn't matter...you're just gonna rock with your guy.... I love Kobe,, I'm a Laker fan.... I'm From LA... emotionally Kobe is my guy.... BUT IN FCKN REALITY WE ALL KNOW JORDAN IS THE GOAT..... my love for Kobe can't deny my love for truth and reality.... my emotional GOAT is Kobe.... the reality on earth is that MICHAEL JORDAN is the greatest ATHLETE we've had thus far... not just basketball ...... ATHLETE...... how can someone who got beat 6 out of 10 times be your goat while MJ is 6-0, Kobe is 5-2, Magic is 5-1.... You will let Lebron & the new generation convince you that it's all about stats and not winning championships..... i'm certain you don't ball...or you ball on a super mediocre level... not tryna diss you... but you're not paying attention fam... Lebron in 10th place taking every other game off and ya'll will d*ck ride the hell outta him,,, my gee has been load managing for 10 years... gtfoh