Suspiria (1977) MOVIE REACTION! FIRST TIME WATCHING!!
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Fun fact: the reason the charcters act in such a child-like way, isvthat the director wrote this to be played by little girls, 9 years old girls.. the Studio refused to make a movie where children get killed, so he cast adults... If you pay attention, all the doorknobs and door handles are placed higher than usual, to make the actresses look more like children
It's not an excuse. Laziness
Not many people know this
@Molly Pop same the remake was horrible
@@damanhammerar154life7 not laziness if during production the studio say no u can’t use kids . Italy ain’t Hollywood mate ! Don’t have the same money to throw around 🙄
The difference between the two Suspirias: the OG plays more like a Grimm’s Fairy Tale Horror Movie Giallo(plus rock score by Goblin) and the reimagined version gives more background on the coven, dance( by Damien Jalet)and history. Both unique perspectives with the second more intellectual. The sequels to the original Suspiria are Inferno and Mother of Tears.
“It’s just pointless”. Welcome to the world of Italian Horror!!
Never, under any circumstances, go into an Italian horror film with the same expectations you would have for any other kind of horror film. You can kiss characterization goodbye. It’s all about assaulting you visually and sometimes sonically. It’s all style over substance, it doesn’t really make sense, people don’t react or act logically or realistically.
Fans of the genre love it for how absurd, bizarre, gruesome and technically beautiful it can be.
I’m an Argento fanboy, and I love how Suspiria looks and sounds. I’d be happy if the movie had no dialogue at all. Even as a fan I will admit that it isn’t terribly exciting and kinda slogs throughout.
It’s Argento’s most famous movie, but not his best.
I adore Italian classic scifi, but their horror doesn't quite work for me.
Both always have incredible and unique style!
Totally, it's all about style and less about substance. Personally, I'm all about style.
@@MikeSmith-qg3bf The original Suspiria is all about style
@@ednicholson7839 I couldn't agree more! It's like a Technicolor nightmare, and the Goblin score is unnerving.
I've always felt italian horror of the Argento/fulci/bava, etc... vein as being less like a coherent movie and more like a bad dream or nightmare. It's not supposed to make sense. It's all about the mood and the vibe.
The soundtrack by Goblin is amazing
Whhhithches!!! Loved the Zobmbie music tracked, or Zombi depending upon country. Not my place to say as I'm not patrion but Zombi, zombie has two scenes you'll never forget. Favorite low budget is assault on precinct 13 from 70s by john carpenter. A great imagination goes a long way. Wrote, directed, produced, music score and more by one guy.
Huge fan of the film's theme.
Saw them in concert a few times. They are amazing
Famous, beloved, influential.
And beautiful.
Well, your first mistake was expecting Suspiria to be comparable to other horror films you've watched. Italian horror movies are very flamboyant, theatrical, atmospheric, and artistic. When you watch them you have to forget what movies are "supposed" to be and just go along with the experience. The only thing I can suggest is to watch more of them, check out other movies by Argento, Lucio Fulci and Mario Bava (they're the big 3 Italian horror filmmakers) and then come back to Suspiria.
ESPECIALLY Fulci! Every single one of his movie's is a masterpiece. I adore The Beyond, The New York Ripper, and House By The Cemetery.
It's funny to see people watch their first Argento Horror film and being bothered by it not making sense. That's italian horror for you. Suspiria is one of my favorite horror films ever! It#s all about dream logic. Check out Inferno, the sequel to this. It's awesome as well.
I thought Inferno was a real let-down, the weakest of Argento's good period. I've twice failed to get through the whole thing, just from how boring it is.
Wait is it a sequel to this cause I watched it and it doesn't feel like a sequel
3rd one was interesting
@@ThreadBomb I agree, Inferno for the most part (like Bird with a Crystal Plumage) is nasty and only has one scene going for it, the underwater scene which is excellent and some say directed by Mario Bava.
While I can appreciate that not everyone would like such films, I must say it's absolutely amazing to me. Its visual signature, score, and overall intention. That's what I'd call art, as it stands out and leaves no-one indifferent. Cinema is art, but a lot of producers/directors have a very linear way of delivering, and most people have a very linear way of consuming it: a beginning, a climax, an ending, explanations for everything, clearly defined characters and sets... and repeat.
With Italian films of this era there usually is no one audio track, the cast is very often highly international and most often they all deliver their lines in their native tongue and then everything is dubbed over to Italian, German, English and so on so for e.g the German version the German actors have their voice track kept and then everyone else is dubbed and likewise for the other languages.
In Suspiria especially there is a mix of Italian, German, Spanish, English, French and Swedish native dialogue. So every audio track is a dub.
When the film premiered it was with Italian audio in Italian cinemas.
Each audio is in sense a dub but each of his film have an audio he more directly worked on. Usually it is the audio from the premiere
Yeah, that's what Eurocinema used to be like. A sort of Babylonian mix of languages on set. Probably not easy working under conditions like that, for the cast and the crew.
@@Nergalsama01 Still exists although in a much smaller sense. E.g some Swedish productions is quite popular in Germany (like the cop series Beck and some children series such as Pippi Longstockings) so German production companies tend to offer investment if these shows include one or two German actors (so that the production company can use them in Germany for marketing) and those actors talk German during shooting so they don't have to ADR:er in Germany later and then they are dubbed over by a Swedish voice actor for the Swedish tape.
So there is always a the "spot the German" game when seeing those shows :)
@@Thecatdrums3 Of course they used the Italian dub in Italian cinemas... That is what they do for all films.
The film was shot without sound (MOS). Every version of this movie is dubbed.
It's not a nostalgia thing, haha. It's the pure visual grandeur and beauty of this film. It's a simple, dark fairy tail with cool death scenes and absolutely stunning cinematography.
Shaun not enthusiastic about them doing another horror film while I'm elated they are reacting to another horror.
It's pretty awesome.
You need to understand that these 70 Italian horror films are all about visuals and atmosphere over the story and characterization.
Just like their porn movies.
That's a very cheap justification though, because most of this film's flaws are actually technical...Awful performances, awful dubbing, awful special effects, laughable climax, etc.
2001: A Space Odyssey, The Color of Pomegranates, Come and See, Mirror, Persona, La Dolce Vita, The Passion of Joan of Arc, and Marketa Lazarová are also all about visuals and atmosphere, and they're masterpieces in every single aspect nonetheless. Giallo films are just mediocre.
Exactly, I really liked suspiria better when I realised this.
@Misery
I've seen all those films you've listed, except "Mirror", and I still find "Suspiria" an obvious masterpiece. Most serious film critics love "Suspiria", so you're in a very small minority that doesn't like this film. Which is fine but you acting like a snob is bizarre when so many film snobs adore this horror film.
@@chadpastrama8258 It doesn't matter how many critics love this thing, it still has awful performances, awful special effects, an awful script, and an awful climax. These are facts.
I mentioned those films as an example. Several (if not most) of the greatest works ever made in film history are driven by atmosphere instead of plot, but Suspiria is not one of them.
We're talking about a B-horror movie with cool visuals here, not a major arthouse masterpiece like you seem to think.
It's portraying a nightmare, the weird acting the lurid colours the random scenes and creepy background noises. If you don't go with the dreamlike quality right from the get go it wouldn't work
@Paul WT Nightmares dont have logic, that's what makes them scary and the imagery and disconnected randomness is very much what nightmares are made of but obviously not yours for some weird reason. Sounds like you just have bad taste in movies.
More like drugged than nightmare.
She IS drugged most of the time.
Well it's a nightmare to watch so they succeeded? :shrug:
If (... WHEN) you eventually get to doing a series of remakes of films you've reacted to, I can't wait for the Suspiria-remake. Hell, the Hills Have Eyes -remake too!
I think you guys will vastly prefer the remake...at the very least, I think it will freak you out a lot more and make you laugh a lot less :) and at least it will have a low bar to get over to beat this one.
Hills Have Eyes remake is awesome! I remember seeing it in theaters here in NYC and everyone erupted into applause.
I agree. The remake of Suspiria was night and day (I loved the original, but the remake was just a masterpiece imo)
please react to evil dead remake
the remake is really really good, one example of remakes maybe being better than the original
Wow, your first Argento film! How strange it was to see Tom more up for a film over Shaun!
You guys have to admit...the greatest *wallpaper* in a horror film, ever! Argento shot this in three-strip Technicolor...it looks pretty amazing. And Goblin's score is iconic. I think you both need to see MORE Argento films to get more of an idea of his ouvre...you would both LOVE Tenebrae! ETA - Tom took the barbed-wire room MUCH better than I thought he would...
Okay I gotta ask. How is it that whenever you guys look at each other, you both turn your heads the same way? This has been driving me crazy.
Yeah, it is the most terrifying part of these horror movie reactions... :)
I can't remember which reaction it was... But they explained the reasoning behind editing that them sitting that way. And that they weren't changing it 😂😂
Edit: I believe they talk about it in the first live Q&A vid they aired
If you notice when you see them watching the movie in the circles Shaun is on the opposite side that he's actually sitting on the couch and his image is reversed.
Lmao it’s always intrigued me
@@johnmcnulty2705 Shaun's image is reversed but, yes, they are actually sitting on opposite sides of each other.
1978 Invasion of the Body Snatchers
That was an excellent movie, best version ever.
I love the brutal honesty! It makes it so much better when you really like a movie. Keep up the great work guys, thanks for the company and for allowing us to join you on your cinematic journey 😉👌✌️🤘🖖
Aw, I wish y’all liked it. With the combination of the music, atmosphere, cinematography, and gore, I found Suspiria to be quite chilling and unsettling, beautiful even.
This movie got reduced to "trash" status by that guy on the left just because he didn't get a full bio on the heroine? Really? Well ok.
Well, these guys don't have to like the movie, no, but "you people who like this movie just got nostalgia for it" is kind of a dick remark.
I'm surprised that you guys didn't enjoy this as much as I thought you would! I absolutely love Suspiria! It's mainly a Giallo (It means yellow in Italian, which refers to the covers of the popular murder mystery novels popular then) film, which is pretty much the Italian predecessor to 80s slasher movies. This is my favorite Argento film, and I would highly recommend Tenebrae, as that is much more straightforward and doesn't have a supernatural twist.
Suspiria really falls into the baroque horror category. Argento's first four films were definitely Giallo, but this was his first baroque horror film.
@@kakarikiyazoo true, it’s baroque horror with a little bit of a giallo flair to it
Maybe they've should have watched it in the italian dub version. Maybe they would still not love it but maybe appreciate it a bit more. I am Italian and this is the first time that I watched it in english dub and I must admit some of the voice actings were so ridiculous and silly to the point of being comical. The italian dub is a bit less silly
@@lukeizabelle2131 Yeah, I only could find the English dub, and absolutely loved it, but I assume watching it in Italian it would be even better.
@@loganarnoldkicks4321 It is still not perfect and a bit silly in parts, there is no true Italian version because some of the cast were not Italian so they were dubbed in Italian by other actors. But it is still better than the english one, in my humble opinion🙂
Argento...was a master of lighting.. something about his films sticks with you, they may not be scary as others but he really gets under your skin
i keep going back to the sounds and visuals more than the story the feeling of jumbled thoughts and lights..
Hey guys! Love watching your reactions! I think it's important to go into Suspiria with the understanding that it is first and foremost an exercise in style. It was a huge cult film because it was SO Italian and wasn't afraid to show it. Italian auteurs of that time, especially Fellini, were known for their unique cinematic style. It wasnt about the story it was about how the story looked. It's a more aesthetic approach to filmmaking. So when you say who was the main character, I would argue the director never cared because the main character is the director. That goes against what we expect not just from horror films but any film and that takes me back to the point that the film is purely style over substance in an almost operatic aesthetic from the music, to the performances, to the lighting. It wants you to constantly be aware that you are watching a filmmaker's interpretation on the genre and not on the story. It's very European because Europe loves it's directors. That often doesn't translate to English audiences who want a narrative that is investing in and of itself. I'm not saying it's for everyone and if you think characters need to be invested in and story is paramount, Argento will not be for you. But if you like to see a director go crazy with his paint brushes and a studio letting him, there's a lot of appreciation to be found in Suspiria. And that score is iconic.
Enjoyed your reactions regardless you liked the movie or not and appreciate your honesty, lads. This film feels like a collective of bizzare dreams. Stunning shots but as for the characters, they lack of substance and forgettable. I'd only remember this movie for its beautiful cinematography and nothing else.
Gahd dang, every shot is a masterpiece!
Argento was a master of cinematography
I like your reaction to this guys. People will not like all movies or all music. Be very weary of reactors who like everything. Some reactors are doing it to get the likes. Playing to the audience. If you are real. The audience will stay and be real with you. I happened to like this film, but can recognize it may not be for some.
This movie broke Shaun. Italian horror, you either love it or hate. Style over substance, once you accept that it makes watching it a bit easier. Having said that I'm not a fan of it, but will occasionally watch it. " Cemetery Man" was one that I've watched several times.
By the way people getting upset because someone doesn't revere a movie they love are nutcases. I respect an honest opinion over someone being disingenuous just to get views and subscribers, so few people have integrity.
I love Suspiria but their opinions didn't neither pissed me off nor bothered me that much because they made some reasonable and valid points. I am perfectly aware that movies like these which are not really about the plot but more about the style, cinematography and atmosphere are bound to not be enjoyed by some people who focus more on the plot and the depth of the plot and of the characters. Plus the english dub of Suspiria is also very silly and ridiculous to the point of being comical. It's not like the italian dub isn't at all silly but being italian I feel like it is overall less silly than the english dub. Once you are perfectly aware that the plot in these kinds of movies are really secondary then you are able to enjoy them more. Well, at least it works for me this way
This is way up there for me, but I think my absolute favorite Italian horror movie is The Beyond by Lucio Fulci.
Shaun seems very plot driven which is fine but yeah something like this probably isn't going to gel with him. It's just pure filmmaking.
@@riveracheron989 His masterpiece, yes.
I recommend The Orphanage or Pan's Labyrinth, for foreign films. They're both in spanish.
I second Pan's Labyrinth! I haven't seen The Orphanage so I can't comment on that, but Pan's Labyrinth is amazing.
yes!! Pan's Labyrinth is great!!
Pans is good
Pans Labyrinth is amazing
Pan's Labyrinth really stuck with me a WHILE after watching it. So good. Great recommendation 😁
Argento films are not about plot or characters. They're about the feelings you get from the visuals/editing/music and often centre around "beautiful" death sequences that are dreamlike. They're an experience.
Suspiria has such lovely, stylised lighting. And the score by Goblin adds this extra layer of dread over the whole thing.
They're not all like that, but yeah, Suspiria is about as logical as a dream. You just have to surrender yourself to it if you want to enjoy it.
Oh I surrendered myself and it still is a terrible film.
still an overrated film. it has style and great cinematography, that's it. it's pacing is horrible and the story is simply boring. i agree with the boys on this one. haha
True, but I want to give the plot a little bit of credit here. It's really not far from 'Rosemary's Baby' in creating this dreadful, palpable sense of paranoia. If you are in tune with the realization that the witches work by manipulation and deception, you will notice things that are pretty damn freaky. It will allow your imagination to run wild such as pondering "why did they want Suzy out of that boarding house so badly" or "why did they want the students to sleep in the hall that night?" (hence the plot with the maggots). Certain things are happening behind the scenes and little is often explained, and that ambiguity is really effective in making this a mystery in addition to a horror film.
@@LoneAries77 people that think this should never have an opinion on movies
I'm not disappointed in your reaction of this film-- there were some really out there, odd, visual, psychological and creative films in the 70's. The imagery is really creepy...its more the idea of the movie that creeps a person out.
Watch Braindead (1992), directed by Peter Jackson. Goriest movie of all time.
YES!
Yes! I have been suggesting it as well, hoping it will be on their next horror movie list.
Or Tokyo Gore Police! As far as I know only one person's reacted to it and it deserves way more attention!
Yep! Fun, outrageous and totally unforgettable. The Frightners directed by Jackson would be another recomendation.
Good. Up
Wow! This is my personal favorite movie of all time, it made me want to go Deep into film making! But I can comprehend that it's not a "formal" film, in that it's point it's to build an atmosphere, creating a style and experimenting with scary imagery, forget about plot. Many Italian horror films are like this, another examples of this are Fulci 's City of the living dead and The Beyond, equally pointless in plot but Full of savage imagery (but with less style). Hell, even John Carpenter got influence from this!
The ‘remake’ is almost entirely different. There’s a dance school, and there’s witchy stuff, but beyond that it’s a wildly different treatment.
Remake was terrible personally
@@fizikz9647 Same. Idk what's with Guadagnino's obsession with remakes. Although he said it's more of an homage than a remake.
It’s a complete different movie and it’s a masterpiece to me 😉
I have to agree, it's not the same Suspiria but a different take on the story. I did enjoy the twist ending.
@@esseray8347 a master piece it definitely isn’t was too long and too many boring dancing scenes and not enough creepy Atmosphere . The end twist u could see a mile away
Probably my favorite horror film ever. Just has a special quality to it, and peculiarities and touches that I love.
●Those glowing eyes outside the (second floor!) window
●The most ominous lightning/thunder effects ever
●Unnecessary but awesome gargoyle rain spouts
●Foreboding and foreshadowing, dreamlike POV strolls down the creepy but beautiful hallways
●Tall door handles making the characters appear even more child-like and vulnerable
●Those witches' shadows scurrying on the courtyard walls, portending doom for the blind-man
●The art-nouvea, fairly-tale like architecture
●Goblin's soundtrack serving as an entrancing incantation on the audience itself
●Mater Markos' otherworldly growling, raspy voice
●The paranoia caused by characters constantly being manipulated both on and off screen
●A barbed-wire room that has no logical reason for its existence
●The uneasy realization that all the students have left for the night...except for Suzy
●That bat just patiently waiting for Suzy to open the window
I think they were too distracted with the "negative" parts of the film (bad voice dubs mainly) to focus on all the amazing things about it, which saddens me.
@@echo8630 I can kind of see how that may be possible. This film is pretty stripped of your typical plot pace /structure and other conventions that usual movie goers are trained to expect, so you need to come into watching this with the right mindset. Accept it for what it is, and don't compare it with other films. I actually did not realize how great it was until I really absorbed the film and had the chance to reflect on it. The impression it left was undeniable and now it's definitely in my top 5 all time favorite films, regardless of genre:
letterboxd.com/deadmanramsey/list/greg-plattes-top-100-favorite-films/
Hopefully they give it another shot and realize that you just need to immerse yourself in the surreal universe that the film creates, and appreciate it as sense heightening audio-visual experience, where things don't always make sense. Ideally, play it at a 4K resolution on a very large screen and crank it to maximum volume.
@@INTJerk "Ideally, play it at a 4K resolution on a very large screen and crank it to maximum volume." Yes.
Sadly, I doubt either of you guys are all that well versed in watching dubbed foreign horror films, but most people born from the 50's to the 80's, dubbed horror and action was common place and almost a constant in the lives of movie geeks back then. From Godzilla films from Japan, Kung Fu films from Hong Kong to Italian and Spanish horror back in the 70's. So maybe it was both of you just diving head first into the deep end that threw you. Had you both gotten acclimated to the feel, pacing, atmosphere and overall vibe of Italian horror and dubbed foreign horror in general, I think you'd have both appreciated it a lot more. Not to mention Argento is known for his off kilter dream like almost surrealist and yes experimental style, that it would have better served you to start out with something like Deep Red, or the very underrated, brilliant and quite accessible film he did in 1985 called Phenomena, with a young Jennifer Connolly and Donald Pleasance in it. There's countless amazing Italian horror films, with several different subgenres, from giallo, to zombie, cannibal, devil possession to straight up slasher films, they vary in quality, but are almost always incredibly entertaining, and are well worth seeking out. Do IMDB deep dives on Argento, but also Lucio Fulci, Mario Bava, Lamberto Bava, Michele Soavi, Ruggero Deodato, Sergio Martino, Umberto Lenzi and Joe D'Amato, maybe even Riccardo Freda, Antonio Margheriti, Pupi Avati, Massimo Dallamano, Bruno Mattei, Claudio Fragasso, Aldo Ladi and Luigi Cozzi if you're feeling up to it. It's a real pity Tom didn't like it, but it is a niche acquired taste.
The remake is highly recommended.
Easily one of my films of the year.
I loved Suspiria (2018). It’s a shame some people dissed it for being a “remake”, when it’s almost entirely different.
@@righttoleftrepeat for sure. The remake dances in a totally different class to the original hehe.
The remake is shit
Italian horror films are an acquired taste. They take several viewings to fully appreciate them. Dario Argento's movies are mostly beloved for their visual style over substance and the spectacular kills. All Italian films of this time were shot without sound and then everything was dubbed in later. That can be jarring at first. My first experience with Italian horror was reading about it because the films were so censored or unavailable. When finally getting a chance to see them fully uncut and some in the Italian language with English subtitles they became completely different films. Even within Dario's catalog of movies, Suspiria is divisive amongst fans. Some hate it and some love it. Most agree that it is visually impressive. The last film to use the 3 strip Technicolor printing process. A very influential movie. I appreciate your comments but if you further explore Italian horror you will be converted eventually. So many great films out there. Explore.
Hi from an Italian! 👋
Suspiria is a giallo movie, and typically from this genre nothing is as important as style and music. Giallo try to recreate an atmosphere of suspense, more than horror, and treat “death” as a form of art. They are always full of vibrant colours and beautifully shot scenes
If you want to watch more, I recommend Blood and Black Lace or A Bay of Blood (which has the pov of the killer that greatly inspired Friday 13th) or Deep Red 👍
Btw always love your reactions ✌️
Also watched for the first time a few months back, really dug it. It feels like a fever dream and I love how strangely beautiful and surreal the film is.
The first time I watched this I got the 4K release cheap used. With my sound system and OLED I was so sucked in by the audio and visual that I cared less about the story. I love watching just for those things. I am glad I own it.
Suspiria is one of the greatest films ever made
I live for Shaun's high pitch screams. And toms always "home alone" face reactions
Personally love suspiria, its actually 1 of my favorite horror movies. You should react to Martyrs. Its a french psychological horror movie
The synchronized head turns at 7:37 and 9:32 are EVERYTHING. 🤣
This is one of those films that is better at a second viewing. Once you see that the film's plot is designed to be more as a dream instead of an actual story, it is easier to view and just enjoy the ride.
"too experimental" and "pointless" is I guess what you see when you go into an 70s italian operatic arthouse horror that is 100% style and tone, when you're expecting to see plot and character and story hahaha. If you want plot and character the remake is totally for you, it's got plot coming out of its ears! I really enjoy this film, purely for the visuals, the production design and the soundscape. But yeah, not for everyone, and especially with completely false expectations about what it is your watching. It's like finishing watching silence of the lambs and then saying to your friend, oh I've go another great mystery thriller and then throwing on eraserhead. It doesn't end well.
After all the complaints, I'm surprised neither said "the blood's too red!"
A great foreign film is Let the Right One In or the Swedish version of Girl With The Dragon Tattoo.
Suspiria is sort of like a fairy tale. As the lighting and music suggest, it's not based in reality. If one expects realism, they're not going to find it in here. It's more akin to a modern expressionist film than anything else. But you have to be open to unconventional filmmaking to appreciate it. It's neither a conventional horror film, nor a conventional film.
Dang, I recommend this film. It's okay though, you gave it a shot and I respect your opinions. Shout out to Tom for The Cure shirt. Fun fact: in addition to the script written for children to play the roles in this film, another inspiration was Disney's Snow White. Hence the witches and Technicolor nightmare.
Also, this film is the first part of a trilogy. The sequel is called Inferno, and the last film is The Mother of Tears. Inferno is actually pretty good.
Suspiria is definitely a love it or hate it kind of movie (don't worry, I love it.) I hope they check out some of Argento's other films, though if they didn't like Suspiria, I doubt they'd get much out of Inferno.
@@derekconnors4128 Yes, it's kinda like Rocky Horror, you either love it or you hate it.
This film has amazing death scenes, brilliant soundtrack and perfect atmosphere. Not everyone can understand that
and fabulous design and lighting.
Oh my god. You rated it so low! The visuals and the cinematography are stunning. Look at those colours, that score. Argento is a genius. I’m sad.
Yeah, but it still has to be a good movie.
@@Jahu-qs2us I think it is a good movie.
I would've rated it an 1.0
Oh boy while I think you guys do fantastic videos I think you really dropped the ball on this one. Sure it's trashy, intentionally so. Italian horror is a whole genre to itself that you really have to understand and appreciate it's not what many of us are used to who haven't seen it before. There's a lot of humor and satire here.
What this movie is most famous for is its astounding art direction and music and atmosphere. Visually this movie is mind-boggling and I'm really surprised that you seem to not even notice it.
Again I want to commend you. Every video you've done so far has been great. It's great you have an interest in old movies which in my opinion are so much better than what are made today. It's true that there's not much of a story or character development here but other elements make up for it.
I love how you guys always take into account the age of a film when rating it.
A film I would recommend if you haven't seen it already is Forbidden Planet (1956). Fantastic film for it's time.
The soundtrack and the atmosphere is great, the remake is also definently worth watching though.
Edit: Great reaction, even though I dont fully agree with your view on it. Keep up the good work!
You guys reacted the same exact way I did to this movie. I was expecting it to be better by how people hyped it up. I appreciate Argento’s style but This wasn’t for me. I say react to the remake
WHAT THIS MOVIE IS SO GOOD AHHHHHHH!!! We watched this in my avant-garde class at art school.
I completely understand anybody disliking this. When we watched this in film studies I was like “wtf is this crap” but I watched it again a year or so later and I really enjoyed it. The dubbing makes me cringe but I like the story, the colours and the soundtrack gives me shivers. I would give it a 7.5 as I think it is well made and has a high status within “film society”
Appreciate your honesty, lads. I wouldn't say it's forgettable, but as per characters yes, they're lack in depth and disengaging I don't find myself invested on them. The dreamlike visuals and creepy scores are the only plus points in this movie.
Very surprised by this reaction because I loved this movie! To me, it's very fairytale, so I didn't mind that they didn't develop the characters at all. As you said, it is very experimental, I responded to the experiments differently than you 2.
I thought it was beautiful to look at (even the gruesome deaths were strangely gorgeous....the girl sticking out of the stained glass at the beginning) and the score is one of my favorites.
I haven't seen the remake, but Thom Yorke did the score.
Any chance you guys will watch the 2008 Let the Right One In? It's Swedish and horror adjacent.The remake is called Let Me In and, once again, has Chloe Grace Moretz. (She was also Carrie in the remake of Carrie)
What is with that girl and starring in remakes
The movie is meant to feel like a nightmare. It isn’t supposed to be realistic or logical just supposed to make you feel like you’re in a nightmare. The movie doesn’t focus on or worry about the plot or the characters, that’s not what the movie is about. The movie is about the feeling, you shouldn’t watch it to understand it. You should watch it to experience it. That’s why I love this movie I never focus on the plot but rather let the movie carry me to a different reality filled with spooky music, colorful lighting, interesting set design, and great cinematography. You guys are welcome to your opinion of the movie, I just wanted to explain why others such as myself love it so much.
i haven't started watching yet but THANK YOU for reacting to this, been loving watching you guys go down the path of classic horror for our entertainment, and Suspiria is one of my favorites of all time. Especially considering the stress of this week over here in the US I totally needed this!
cheers!
edit: a little sad to see you guys weren't super down with it, but i'm glad you guys gave it a shot and explained your reasoning! i will say, i think maybe this one you should give another watch sometime with more context on its history and intentions, as well as forgetting the idea that the characterization and plot are the most important thing, and try to view it from a more visual lens. The production design, cinematography, composition and staging, lighting, and music all come together brilliantly. The dub is also something that just takes time to get used to and forgive the more you watch italian giallo and horror.
100% agreed. It's totally different from what they've been reacting too. If they went in viewing this from an artistic standpoint they'd probably appreciate it way more. This film was so ahead of it's time.
We will be definitely exploring more of Dario’s work to understand his intentions more and gain a better appreciation, we’re always very open for our minds to be changed 😊
@@CinemaRules Profundo Rosso(1975) and Tenebrae (1982) are a good start. Love your reactions as well.
Foreign Film - Martyrs ! You'll never see it coming.
Going into Suspiria without any knowledge of Italian cinema, Dario Argento, Goblin, Giallo etc was probably a huge mistake. It's an art form that is completely different to American cinema. Argento as a filmmaker is such a visionary and is my all-time favourite director.
i refuse to believe that you gentlemen have gone your whole lives without seeing all these movies lol
Hey great reaction once again guys. I haven't watched your channel in a while but this was a great video to come back to. Good luck with 30k!
I write this before watching the video, because the thumbnail has me worried. Could it be that you don't like this masterpiece??? That's illegal, you know.
edit: Well, that hurt...
This is like a dark fairytale or a dream.
Suspiria means sighs, or whispers, in Italian. That's what all the sighs and whispers on the soundtrack are about. Also, the opening narration tells you who Suzy Banyon is and why she's there. It's an art film. No getting around that. It's more about mood than plot. Of course, if you're not watching it on a large cinemascope screen with quadraphonic sound, you're missing a lot. Watching it on a TV with with below average sound and all the lights on doesn't cut it with this movie. It also helps if you actually get invested in the movie, rather than constantly talking over it. But then it wouldn't be much of a reaction video then, would it? Ah, well. Pearls before swine... I mean, to each their own.
Yes! Been waiting for a week for this! Super excited, thanks again for the content guys.
I love Suspiria, but completely get it not being everyone’s cup of tea. It’s got nothing to do with age, or when you saw it. I know some younger people who can’t sit through Psycho, which you guys liked. This movie lives in a dream state. Everything, the shot composition, the score, the lighting, it’s all there to make you see it as a kind of waking dream. Giallo just isn’t for everyone, I guess. Nothing wrong with that.
I love Suspiiria. Maybe do some research into Italian 'Giallo' to get a better understanding. It's all about viuals, graphic violence, and sonic overload. Fun fact, I've seen the film on the big screen with Goblin (the soundtrack composers) performing the score live to the film.
I remember seeing Susie’s body come to life for the first time it gave me nightmares for weeks, it’s such a legitimately good scare
I always enjoy and look forward to your videos! Good Job Guys!
One of the most beautiful horror films ever! Dario makes the most artistically wonderful decisions about creating scenes
With the color sound music
Everything! Eli Roth put out perfect saying "he puts the gore in gorgeous!"🤩😍
DAY ONE of requesting invasion of the body snatchers 1978 one of the most underrated horror films it’s a must watch
The 50’s version is better tbh
Good call! Tons of great actors in that one; Sutherland, Nimoy, Goldblum, etc.
I've seen both versions but the ending of the 70s one haunts me to this day
Great movie and if you think about it it is very similar to the thing, in that it is about Alien/'s that can imitate other lifeforms and are trying to replace the human population
best thing about this movie is Udo Kier is in it. "Blood for Dracula", he plays Dracula, now theres a movie no-one has ever reacted to and never will lol. Keep up the good work boys . Greetings from the LANDDOWNUNDER.
I love the use of primary colours in this film Dario Argento truly is an artist.
omg! Pans Labyrinth next!!
Pan's Labyrinth is amazing!
You seriously need to watch Exorcist III. I actually like it more than the first film. A true hidden gem of a horror movie.
Fun fact: Main theme from Suspiria was one of main ispiration for Halloween theme as John Carpenter said that in one of documentaries.
If you did not like Suspiria then there is no point to watch any other italian horror movies. Becouse Suspiria is like number one Italian horror classic. You can maybe try to watch "Deep Red" or my personal favorite italian horror movie "The House of the Laughing Windows" wich are maybe generaly better movies.
And of course again one of best movie for me ever made (not Italian Shaun, dont worry), pure classic and masterpiece made by british legend director and cinematographer Nicolas Roeg is "Dont Look Now" from 1973. Thats how you made a movies. So you should watch that one.
You guys can never be done with horrors! They're the best reactions to watch for the audience!
I think what you aren't understanding is that it's a specific style of filmmaking. It's ALL about style. Narrative structure is completely out the window. I will agree it has pacing problems. However, it is not indicative of the time period, but of the particular style of filmmaking of the Italian giallo/horror. Argento is of course way more invested in style. Story is weak. It has to be looked into a different type of lens to appreciate. Please try another Argento film like Deep Red, Tenebrae, or Phenomena as well.
Phenomena is fantastic!
I think they will not like Phenomena but maybe they would like the other two...
I think its fair, if you dont like the acting/dubs or arent invested in the characters. But I feel like giving it a 4 is so harsh considering how beautiful and stylistic it was filmed. Not too mention the score by Goblin.
Goblin, who recorded the soundtrack, did so before the movie was filmed, based solely on the script and discussions with Dario Argento. Argento loved it so much he used to blast it on the set. Originally, the characters were all going to be girls under the age of 10, but Argento was vetoed on the idea, though, he didn't bother to rewrite all the dialogue and characters.
Also, this film was to be the first in a trilogy. You can just make out words behind the main theme stating there are 3 witches. Mother Suspiriorum is the Mother of Sighs. The sequel, Inferno, came out in 1980, and The Mother of Tears was released in 2007.
Every time I think I'll just go to sleep, you guys drop another video that I now MUST watch. 😎
I once heard someone call Suspiria a Disney movie possessed by a Demon. That makes sense to me.
Well the main character is meant to represent snow White
@@Welsh_Dragon756 I can definitely see that
That soundtrack is awesome
I admit to having laughed out loud while watching this for the first time, upon seeing those ridiculous glowing eyes (actually, my friend and I both turned to each other and burst out laughing in unison - a beautiful moment, really). But, despite that comical moment, this film has one of the best and most affecting scores of any horror film I've seen, plus an extraordinary use of colour. It's really visually stunning. EDIT: I think to really get something out of the film, you need to watch it in the dark, alone (or with someone, in silence), with the sound right up. Because, as someone else mentioned in the comments, it's less about story and characters than it is about immersing you in the dream/nightmare-like atmosphere generated by the score and visuals. I'd be interested to see what you guys think of the remake in comparison, which I think handles certain story elements a bit better, while unfortunately missing some of the audio-visual elements that make this film a classic.
Don't know if anyone has already commented this but dubbing is just how these giallo movies were made. They would have an international cast, and everyone would speak their own language while they filmed. Then every single actor is dubbed for whatever language it's playing in.
This movie is supposed to be like a dream, that is why those colors, unusual shots, music and breathing, no noise etc.
Don't know about everyone else, bt I absolutely always watch foreign films with subs. even the best dubs are still a bit of-putting.
The original audio is always the way to go.
There is no original audio for Italian films of the time. The audio was all redone. Even in Italian it would still be a dub.
I mean, usually yes but Italian films from this time period get a special dispensation from me. Often they would hire actors from all over the globe who would speak their native languages and then just dub the whole movie into Italian in post. So no matter which way you jump you're going to be watching SOMEBODY who has been dubbed into a different language.
Italian films aren't filmed with audio, but they still have a dub that the actors record. So I guess that would be considered as the official original audio track. I always try to listen to foreign films with the original audio (and subtitles) to experience the movie in ita unaltered form.
I've always preferred watching foreign films in their native language with english subtitles, Dubs have always sounded offputing.
For me this movie is right up there with The Exorcist, Rosemary’s Baby, Halloween, A Nightmare on Elm Street. Maybe because I use to watch this movie as a kid and it’s nostalgia for me.
Doesn't matter how you watch most Italian horror from back in that timeframe I do believe. They had all their actors and actresses say their lines in their native tongues and then dubbed them over for whatever market it would be released in. Susperia being one of these movies.
I feel like, between the childish way the students argue, the terrible decisions they make when fleeing from danger, and the fact that you don't go to a ballet school as an adult, the protagonists were initially envisioned as little girls, which makes the events much more disturbing to me. I guess they cast adults because people didn't want to film preteens being stabbed in the heart and otherwise brutally killed.
Also, the remake is equally amazing, but completely different stylistically. Yet, it somehow captured the bizarre essence of the original. I love it equally. It’s like modern art house horror. Hopefully you guys can do a reaction at some point. That one is much more heavy on plot. You might enjoy it more.
You guys keep up the good work. Your reactions are top notch
There's a theory that the different lights mean different things. Blue is darkness. We see blue, but the characters are in the dark. That's why she couldn't see the barbed wires. It was dark in the room...
I love this movie but I will not argue with anyone who found this movie dated and badly acted. It is the style and the music that gives it this film this unique feel.
And I won't lie, its camp, over the top melodrama is part of the appeal but it is very indicative of the Italian style of horror. It's not for everyone.
The remake does more with the 'witches in a dance academy' concept, won't say it's any scarier but is arguably a more engaging story and definitely more engaging characters.
WHATDOYOUMEAN you're done with horror?? You guy's reactions are epic and wonderful! =)
Saw this in the movies 👀when I was 5 in NYC.
I mean Suspiria became a cult classic for a reason, but I understand that italian horror movies are pretty hard to get into. Luckily I was told, that Suspiria is mostly a visuel experience, before I watched it. And I feel like the creepy atmosphere is perfect, but a lot around it doesn´t make much sense.
For a more "approachable" experience in italian horror movie I would suggest Demoni (english title is Dance of the Demons) by Lamberto Bava. That movie was also produced and partly written by Argento. Feels more like a slasher.