Ralf says "You put your entire life into making music and someone else takes it with the press of a button and creates something else with it" In his voice you can hear he's stressed/nervous Ralf also has a black eye, must've been a bad day for him
@@KraftwerkArchives I see Really an awful day for Ralf To be honest I have no idea what actually came out of this court case in the end or if it's still going on Haven't followed it closely because it went on for so long
Update 01.06.2023: "In der mittlerweile fünften Verhandlung des Bundesgerichtshofs wird in Erwägung gezogen, den Fall wieder dem Europäischen Gerichtshof vorzulegen." Ja moin
Oh no, what's wrong with his eye?? Looks like he might've walked into somebody's fist!! I met him in 1981 when Kraftwerk played a concert in my home city of Liverpool, UK and just like the other three members of this legendary band and Emil, the manager, he was one of the nicest, most gracious people ever!!
Distressed Ralf has a black eye , bleß & gluck fighting pop parasites what does it hurt to get permission & pay some copyright? Glucksdanken 2 all members of kraftwerk, so glad to see them @ bluedot want to catch them again either inside or the fantastic Athens gig projected on buildings ,here's hoping for a new kraftwerk album , vorsprung Dürch technid! 🇩🇪 🚲 🇫🇷
Wer hat sich nicht an Kraftwerk bedient oder abgekupfert..gerade auch in Amerika. P.S. Aber..man hätte ja damals ruhig mal für eine Freigabe/ Genehmigung bei Kraftwerk/ Ralf Hütter vorsprechen können. Machen schließlich viele andere Interpreten/ Band's ja auch.
@ ralf, auch hier sage ich, du hast es auch nicht verstanden. Nenne mir 3 Lieder aus USA, die von Kraftwerk, verbotenderweise geamplet haben, dann lösche ich meinen Post und gebe dir recht. Ich spreche nicht von den samples, die Kraftwerk erlaubt hatte. dann mal los
@@ethy_bates_art in the late 1970s their music was used in porn and by the early 1980s it was being used in Hip Hop. As I have always understood back then Kraftwerk elected not to seek damages or make any copyright infringement claims. Maybe that was urban legend?
@@v.a.993There was only one instance where their music was used in porn, and it was with permission. If you're referring to Kraftwerk not publically going after Afrika Baambaata, supposedly they settled that dispute with them out of court. Also what doesn't help the fact is that copyrights regarding sampling or copying melodies didn't really exist back then, but they sure as hell exist now. Ralf rightfuly won this battle since you can clearly hear that the part of Metal Auf Metal was stolen.
@@LeToplache007 To clarify, Kraftwerk's music has been used in American porn, as well as European porn. In both cases the usage of Kraftwerk's music would have been in the 1970s/ 1980s. To your point about not publicly pursuing infringement cases back then, that is likely how the myth/urban legend started about Kraftwerk "letting" others use its music. In the case of Afrika Bambaataa, Kraftwerk received royalties for the usage of their music. For the record, I agree that Ralf is well within his rights to pursue infringement claims.
@@v.a.993 The case that was discussed in this video probably could've been settled out of court too but it seems like to me that the girl who stole the melody thought that she had a right to do so, and Ralf who is usually a chill guy had really no other option than to file a lawsuit against her.
Ralf says
"You put your entire life into making music and someone else takes it with the press of a button and creates something else with it"
In his voice you can hear he's stressed/nervous
Ralf also has a black eye, must've been a bad day for him
Ralf hit his eye on a taxi door, and thanks for the translation
@@KraftwerkArchives I see
Really an awful day for Ralf
To be honest I have no idea what actually came out of this court case in the end or if it's still going on
Haven't followed it closely because it went on for so long
It ended in 2020 and Ralf won
Thank you.@@KraftwerkArchives
@@Fuchsfein or he's part of the black eye club. Check celebrities with black eyes...
It’s unbelievable how little respect there is for someone his original work . Stealing and earning money .
Update 01.06.2023:
"In der mittlerweile fünften Verhandlung des Bundesgerichtshofs wird in Erwägung gezogen, den Fall wieder dem Europäischen Gerichtshof vorzulegen." Ja moin
Oh no, what's wrong with his eye?? Looks like he might've walked into somebody's fist!!
I met him in 1981 when Kraftwerk played a concert in my home city of Liverpool, UK
and just like the other three members of this legendary band and Emil, the manager, he was one of the nicest, most gracious people ever!!
When he was riding his bike to court he hit his eye on the corner of an open taxi door
Is this about the pop star being sued for sampling trans Europe express?
Yes, Moses Pelham sampled Metal On Metal in "Nur Mir" and Ralf sued him over it
@@KraftwerkArchives oh right
Sampling Trans Europe Express...
Hm Planet Rock!?
Bambaata asked him for permission and also made something unique from it, like inventing hip hop 😃
@@robertdahlqvist5402 I know
Distressed Ralf has a black eye , bleß & gluck fighting pop parasites what does it hurt to get permission & pay some copyright? Glucksdanken 2 all members of kraftwerk, so glad to see them @ bluedot want to catch them again either inside or the fantastic Athens gig projected on buildings ,here's hoping for a new kraftwerk album , vorsprung Dürch technid! 🇩🇪 🚲 🇫🇷
Wer hat sich nicht an Kraftwerk bedient oder abgekupfert..gerade auch in Amerika.
P.S. Aber..man hätte ja damals ruhig mal für eine Freigabe/ Genehmigung bei Kraftwerk/ Ralf Hütter vorsprechen können.
Machen schließlich viele andere Interpreten/ Band's ja auch.
@ ralf, auch hier sage ich, du hast es auch nicht verstanden. Nenne mir 3 Lieder aus USA, die von Kraftwerk, verbotenderweise geamplet haben, dann lösche ich meinen Post und gebe dir recht. Ich spreche nicht von den samples, die Kraftwerk erlaubt hatte. dann mal los
Outcome?
It's still ongoing. The most recent outcome said that Ralf won, but Moses Pelham keeps restarting the case somehow
@@KraftwerkArchives thx
Interesting
Rock the Bellls, mardi gras sample too
Ripping off Kraftwerk is a low, low thing to do, Moses. Shame on you. Plus, your track was crap.
There was a time when Kraftwerk let people steal its music.
I don’t think so…
@@ethy_bates_art in the late 1970s their music was used in porn and by the early 1980s it was being used in Hip Hop. As I have always understood back then Kraftwerk elected not to seek damages or make any copyright infringement claims. Maybe that was urban legend?
@@v.a.993There was only one instance where their music was used in porn, and it was with permission. If you're referring to Kraftwerk not publically going after Afrika Baambaata, supposedly they settled that dispute with them out of court. Also what doesn't help the fact is that copyrights regarding sampling or copying melodies didn't really exist back then, but they sure as hell exist now. Ralf rightfuly won this battle since you can clearly hear that the part of Metal Auf Metal was stolen.
@@LeToplache007 To clarify, Kraftwerk's music has been used in American porn, as well as European porn. In both cases the usage of Kraftwerk's music would have been in the 1970s/ 1980s. To your point about not publicly pursuing infringement cases back then, that is likely how the myth/urban legend started about Kraftwerk "letting" others use its music. In the case of Afrika Bambaataa, Kraftwerk received royalties for the usage of their music. For the record, I agree that Ralf is well within his rights to pursue infringement claims.
@@v.a.993 The case that was discussed in this video probably could've been settled out of court too but it seems like to me that the girl who stole the melody thought that she had a right to do so, and Ralf who is usually a chill guy had really no other option than to file a lawsuit against her.